After two days with my S5, I seem to not have found a way to get over a ridiculous battery drain. I'm only getting around 6 hours of use with ~2hr screen on. (Right now it's at 13% battery after 5hr 42min with 2hr 9min screen on). From what I can tell the primary culprit, as usual, is "Android System" which is using 24% of the battery as of right now. Thanks to KitKat, I can't use WLD to figure out what the drain is. Has anybody else had this issue?
I've tried calibrating the battery (drain to 0%, turn off, charge to full, etc), force stopping clear cache and data on Google Play Services/Play Store/Google+, turning off WiFi, location, etc... nothing seems to work.
Further, no matter how much I clear/end all apps and whether or not I use a downloaded app or the built in task manager, I cannot for the life of me get the RAM usage to go anywhere below 1.32Gb.
Note: Yes, I accidentally posted this in the General forum first, been a long day and clicked the wrong one, I've already requested that the admins delete the other post.
UPDATE: I think I might have narrowed it down to "AntService" under Android System, but I have no idea how to fix that...
dawest said:
After two days with my S5, I seem to not have found a way to get over a ridiculous battery drain. I'm only getting around 6 hours of use with ~2hr screen on. (Right now it's at 13% battery after 5hr 42min with 2hr 9min screen on). From what I can tell the primary culprit, as usual, is "Android System" which is using 24% of the battery as of right now. Thanks to KitKat, I can't use WLD to figure out what the drain is. Has anybody else had this issue?
I've tried calibrating the battery (drain to 0%, turn off, charge to full, etc), force stopping clear cache and data on Google Play Services/Play Store/Google+, turning off WiFi, location, etc... nothing seems to work.
Further, no matter how much I clear/end all apps and whether or not I use a downloaded app or the built in task manager, I cannot for the life of me get the RAM usage to go anywhere below 1.32Gb.
Note: Yes, I accidentally posted this in the General forum first, been a long day and clicked the wrong one, I've already requested that the admins delete the other post.
UPDATE: I think I might have narrowed it down to "AntService" under Android System, but I have no idea how to fix that...
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I have had mine for only a day and YES, I notice a quick drain on the battery. No clue why
That's weird....I'm at 46% right now, 14hours 42min with 2hours 22min of screen time. I also don't have AntService. I did take the update yesterday it was for System Stabilization, I wonder if that has something to do with it as well.
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That's weird....I'm at 46% right now, 14hours 42min with 2hours 22min of screen time. I also don't have AntService. I did take the update yesterday it was for System Stabilization, I wonder if that has something to do with it as well.
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I had taken the update too. I did a factory reset, uninstalled Lark (figured maybe it was hung looking for ANT+ devices), and did another deep charge/calibration. Unplugging now, we'll see.
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dawest said:
I had taken the update too. I did a factory reset, uninstalled Lark (figured maybe it was hung looking for ANT+ devices), and did another deep charge/calibration. Unplugging now, we'll see.
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Let us know what you find. I think it's probably something you installed though and not the phone. Mine lasted 3-4 hours on most of the time while I was playing with it/taking photos at full brightness from 60%. I updated it as well.
Full 5 hours 10 minutes of Screen Time and 17 hours turned on today, this playing and still setting stuff as I got it yesterday. My S4 before Kit Kat was giving me constantly 4 hours of screen time on same daily usage, with normal battery stats showing Screen wit 50% of usage and the other 50 well spread, after Kit Kat at most 3 hours, and the same issue with Android System been equal or some times even greater on usage than the screen.
But, so far I'm happy because even when I used it today a lot different than I use it in a normal day it still managed to gave me over 5 hours of screen time, that's great for me.
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Let us know what you find. I think it's probably something you installed though and not the phone. Mine lasted 3-4 hours on most of the time while I was playing with it/taking photos at full brightness from 60%. I updated it as well.
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Ugh, jealous. I'm just uninstalled about everything now. I'll let it charge overnight and we'll see.
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I had excellent battery until I took the update
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I had excellent battery until I took the update
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yeah but you had no choice. The update installed by itself.
I have good battery life with update.
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Check for wakelocks This is TouchJizz afterall.
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Check for wakelocks This is TouchJizz afterall.
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Solution herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2721378
Just drained my battery completely (a full cycle of fully-charged to fully-empty).
With an average usage, about 80% running on Wifi (with wifi calling), about 30% screen on, two calls of total time of 30min, internet browsing, 3 gmail accounts pulling gmail regularly - Overall - 34.5 hours.
BTW, I love this new battery-charging animation when the device is off - a liquid green energy flowing from the USB into the battery, bubbling and filling up my battery - cool
EDIT: Full charge from 0 to 100% in about 2 hours. Device was shut down during the charging period.
I've gotten over 21 hours and 6 hours of screen time. You should try turning sync off, but it definitely sounds like one of the apps. I doubt your battery already has failed damaged. Also battery calibration is more of placebo effect, it doesn't do anything. When you fully charge your phone it does the same thing as those apps. Don't worry about Ram going under a certain number, unused ram is wasted RAM. Worst case scenario just factory reset start over.
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I've gotten over 21 hours and 6 hours of screen time. You should try turning sync off, but it definitely sounds like one of the apps. I doubt your battery already has failed damaged. Also battery calibration is more of placebo effect, it doesn't do anything. When you fully charge your phone it does the same thing as those apps. Don't worry about Ram going under a certain number, unused ram is wasted RAM. Worst case scenario just factory reset start over.
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I did a real calibration, not those stupid apps, and I tried factory reset twice, still no fix.
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same here my s5 drain the battery 89% to 78% in 5 hours whitout use it and no apps were open
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alex1985m said:
same here my s5 drain the battery 89% to 78% in 5 hours whitout use it and no apps were open
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Do you have leave WiFi on or have WiFi calling enabled? I have found my battery drain with the screen off and WiFi calling enabled be a bit less than 3% an hour. With WiFi disabled and my phone connected to 4g my battery drains at under 1% an hour. With the phone connected to 2g networks the drain decreases even further.
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Do you have leave WiFi on or have WiFi calling enabled? I have found my battery drain with the screen off and WiFi calling enabled be a bit less than 3% an hour. With WiFi disabled and my phone connected to 4g my battery drains at under 1% an hour. With the phone connected to 2g networks the drain decreases even further.
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I was leave with the wifi on and location on and wifi calling off, today I get new battery from tmobile "tmobile tech "check and test the s5 and they say everything is ok and only replace me the battery will test it with the new battery
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Well I'd been doing great since I got it. Left my phone at home at maybe 70% and went for a run, came back an hour later and it was at 35% with Samsung Quick Connect taking up 46%... weird.
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I was leave with the wifi on and location on and wifi calling off, today I get new battery from tmobile "tmobile tech "check and test the s5 and they say everything is ok and only replace me the battery will test it with the new battery
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They want me to go get a new battery, let me know how that works for you.
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What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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Amoled does. From what ive beem read ing super amoled plus.is alot better. The darker the better. Slcd is.a.good option for battery mizers though.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Yes ive also read that the way super amoled plus works, is there is no backlight and individual pixels light up, so its better to have simple wallpapers with mostly black, would probably give you better battery life, as most of the screen will no be using any energy.
All android devices murder their batteries. It's nothing new get over it lol.
This device gets decent battery life considering it's the most powerful option out currently though.
The general masses do not understand how to set these phones up for optimal battery life. There are threads all over XDA on how to do this.
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Every app i use i set on black theme. Wallpaper black. Display all the way down unless IM out side or watching a movie. I get 12hrs plus using gtg's rom.
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I have no idea what you do with your phone or what . But I get more then enough battery with this phone, I do it all text talk surf web forums play and I make it home with enough battery to probably lend you some. Seriously we all know your not going to get iPhone battery life obviously the iPhone it just plain simple. But come on, this type of thread it's getting annoying there's a few already with help and tips on your issue search for them. Maybe you just got high hopes, or maybe it's not the phone it's you. BTW Amoled probably consume less battery but not enough for us power hungry users to see a different.
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I don't think is the screen alone itself but the dual-core running at 1.2Ghz might eat more battery than your old phone with an smaller battery
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What is the deal with this phone? The battery life is not very good at all. I came from a phone that had a 1150 battery and this one has 1600! I am getting almost identical battery life as my old phone. I am running a fully debloated rom at stock clocks with the display turned all the way down and can HARDLY make it through an 8 hour work day. I've narrowed it down to the screen.
I remember reading about amoled when it was first announced and they said it would consume significantly less power than any other display technology. I'm starting to second guess this.
Its either the screen or the dual core processor that's draining this decent sized battery so fast.
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You might want to install CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats (BBS) so you can better diagnose where your battery issues are coming from. 8 hours seems very poor for this device. Use CPUSpy to see how much your device is running in deep sleep - with light usage I usually see around 80% deep sleep. You can use BBS to look for apps causing excessive wakelocks (BBS is available here on xda) to see if a particular app is causing the problem.
Unless you have a hardware problem, I don't think the display is your problem - the display on this device has a smaller percentage hit on battery use than my 3.2" LCD Aria.
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I've been getting 12 hours on batter with almost 6 hours screen on time. Heavy usage. Every day. Better than my iPhone 4.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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Again since I am unable to recreate these results I'm gonna have to go with my phone is defective.
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Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
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Yet you've completely ignored people who have told you to get CPUSpy and BetterBatteryStats to figure out what's keeping your phone awake.
Most likely your phone is not defective, but you've installed an app that's hogging the battery or set up a configuration option that kills it, such as:
Hotmail calendar sync is known to cause massive battery drain due to a Hotmail server side bug
Some Exchange servers are misconfigured and cause major battery drain
Skype is a battery-hogging nightmare. If you absolutely have to use Skype, make sure to take it out with a task killer when you're done with it.
I haven't really pushed my device with screen-on time, however what are your idle battery drain statistics? If you have drain more than 2-3% per hour when the phone is idle (such as overnight), something is very wrong. You should be getting drain on the order of 1% an hour if you leave the phone overnight in moderate signal.
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I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
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I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
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Make sure to do the following to get the most accurate data:
Top off to 100% (to the point you get the full-charged notification)
Remove from charger
Reset timers in CPUspy
Put phone down and go to bed
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I havent ignored anyone. You assume that because I haven't responded to such comments that I haven't tried them. I frequently use cpuspy to make sure my phone is sleeping and I use bbs as well.
I'll leave the phone off the charger overnight to check it out though.
This still doesn't change the fact that HEAVY useage at 5+ hours of screen on time is absurd.
I am also planning to experiment with airplane mode and using only wifi tomorrow.
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I'm not sure why you say 5 hour screen on time with heavy usage is absurd? Are you thinking that isn't possible with this device?
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roadrash7 said:
This phone for android is probably the best or near best in its class. I am impressed. Its better than my captivate was. I can get through 15 hour days with heavy use all the time with average of 4 hours screen time and i listen to a lot of music when the screen is off. This phone rocks i dont even see the need for a extended battery
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+me, amazing battery life w/the SGS2
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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You can still exchange with a new one under 14 days or 30 days. 6 hours with screen on is not absurd on this phone in 12 hours. I have been with screen on with 2:45 hrs and voice with 45 min in 1 day and 8hrs with still 15+ % battery juice left.
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IIRC, one of the review or comparison against iPhone4S benchmarked GS2 as 5 to 6 hours of internet browsing which means both screen on and using data. Wi-fi gives it a slightly longer battery life than cell data. Unfortunately, it didn't benchmark video playback time. iPhone4S spec says 8 hours of video. I hope GS2 is close to that. This is play video from local storage, not streaming. So, the data connection battery draw is out of picture. I managed to get 4+ hours of video playback with flight mode on with my old Captivate. Hopefully, GS2 will last longer, e.g. survive a coast to coast flight while still have some juice left for navigation.
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I'm lucky to see 3 hours of screen on time with MODERATE. Usage.
You are either lying or my phone needs to be warrantied.
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He's not lying. I have seen 5 hours of screen on time and still had a little juice left at the end of 16 hour days. And it wasn't a one time deal. Seen it several times, though I usually don't use my phone that heavily. Yesterday I barely used my phone at all and was only down to like 85% after 16 hours.
I've noticed with Wi-Fi on, I always lose 1% or a bit more per hour, just idle. On 3G, it's a bit less than 1% an hour.
I'm running the latest Jelly Bean stock official firmware (DLJ4).
I have good battery while the screen is on (1% every 4-5 minutes while browsing the internet on WiFi), but this idle battery drain is a bit too much...
I have Facebook setup, but not syncing, and I have most of the notifications disabled.
For my Google account, I have Gmail, Calendar, Contacts, and Internet set to sync.
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Screen was on for 1min and I received a call which I did not pick up.
BetterBatteryStats did not show any kernel wakelocks (although on previous days I did see wlan_rx_wake, l2hsic, and a few others, but none today).
I have seen all over the forums that some people are getting a 24 hours of battery life with 5 hours of screen on time, with Wi-Fi on all day. The best I can get with a whole day is 3-4 hours of screen on (brightness at 40% or lower).
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Its not normal in my opinion... I can surf in net for 6-7 hrs ... I can post pic yet coz im just new here i need 10posts
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Its not normal in my opinion... I can surf in net for 6-7 hrs ... I can post pic yet coz im just new here i need 10posts
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6-7 hours in a 24 hours time period? Or nonstop?
Wow. Factory reset maybe ? Last night with wifi on I lost 2% for 6 hours sleep.
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Looks normal, Gmail woke up to check mail 20X over the cell network while it was sleeping?
Was the phone in a good signal location?
Reason I use Wi-Fi when possible at home. CDMA is 20% signal here, GSM 90%. Perhaps your in the same situation. It is idle in GSM mode, wakes up to check mail notices it can go faster and wastes power renegotiating a faster connection?
That could easily waste power...
If so set to GSM mode, with Wi-Fi on (if screen is on) and turn cell data off.
If your signal is good, you can forget about using only GSM and just do the rest.
Not sure what else it could be, feels like cell signal IMHO. It looks high in the usage chart too, unless you made a few calls..
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Reason I use Wi-Fi when possible at home. CDMA is 20% signal here, GSM 90%. P
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How did you calculate that?
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Wow. Factory reset maybe ? Last night with wifi on I lost 2% for 6 hours sleep.
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I lose about 20 - 25 percent per night when Wi-Fi is on. When Wi-Fi is off almost no battery loss... See the attachment for a log. I'm wondering what's wrong... So I would say that the TS is lucky to be losing only a few percent per night!
Battery drainage looks normal to me. Your wifi was also on for almost the entire time. You could use an app like Juice Defender or Tasker to schedule times to turn on wifi for syncing. That could help decrease time wifi would be on, thus saving some battery life.
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Battery drainage looks normal to me. Your wifi was also on for almost the entire time. You could use an app like Juice Defender or Tasker to schedule times to turn on wifi for syncing. That could help decrease time wifi would be on, thus saving some battery life.
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It's not normal at all. I've seen others with better idle time than me, leaving Wi-Fi on the whole time. Also, my phone drains less battery while on 3G. That makes no sense.
And apps like Juice Defender shouldn't be required. It cripples the phone of a feature: background data. I use Google Voice to text and prefer my messages to come instantly instead of every 15 minutes.
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Looks normal, Gmail woke up to check mail 20X over the cell network while it was sleeping?
Was the phone in a good signal location?
Reason I use Wi-Fi when possible at home. CDMA is 20% signal here, GSM 90%. Perhaps your in the same situation. It is idle in GSM mode, wakes up to check mail notices it can go faster and wastes power renegotiating a faster connection?
That could easily waste power...
If so set to GSM mode, with Wi-Fi on (if screen is on) and turn cell data off.
If your signal is good, you can forget about using only GSM and just do the rest.
Not sure what else it could be, feels like cell signal IMHO. It looks high in the usage chart too, unless you made a few calls..
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I was on Wi-Fi the whole time, so it wasn't using the cell network (3G).
As you can see from the battery graph screenshot, I was mostly in a good location. The phone was in one spot on my table the whole time, where it switches between 3 and 4 bars every now and then. I didn't make any calls but I did receive one (didn't answer it) right before I took the screenshots.
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6-7 hours in a 24 hours time period? Or nonstop?
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6-7hrs straight wid about 5mins break each hour... It worked when i deleted apps that are free in google play i found out that free apps consumes too much battery maybe it runs on the background i dunno
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6-7hrs straight wid about 5mins break each hour... It worked when i deleted apps that are free in google play i found out that free apps consumes too much battery maybe it runs on the background i dunno
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Oh that is reasonable. This phone can last that long nonstop or close to nonstop as you did.
But my problem is idle time
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Oh that is reasonable. This phone can last that long nonstop or close to nonstop as you did.
But my problem is idle time
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38% cell idle omg its like having a fuel leak... Maybe you have apps wid ads running in the background... Better delete those unwanted ads... Or buy a pro version no ads.. Y not consider factory reset just be sure u had them backed up.... Im cell standby is only 2 %
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38% cell idle omg its like having a fuel leak... Maybe you have apps wid ads running in the background... Better delete those unwanted ads... Or buy a pro version no ads.. Y not consider factory reset just be sure u had them backed up.... Im cell standby is only 2 %
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I have never heard of ads running in the background... and I had all apps closed so nothing was running to drain the battery.
I've done factory resets several times, so I suppose it's either the kernel or an app doing this... but the apps I use are very common apps and I don't sync much :L
Avast shall halt anything misbehaving, maybe worth a try? Only other thing worth trying before a factory reset is installing Watchdog task manager.
Set it up so it monitors system level tasks!
Something might only be awake for a few seconds in battery stats, but it might be running at 100% system load.
Watchdog shall catch it!
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My phone always drop like about 25% when I sleep with Wifi on too. Wifi seems to eat up the battery a lot recently.... I9300XXDLJ4 with Siyah 1.7rc1....
I'm the same with WiFi on and seems plenty of others are too. If I charge phone to full and then disconnect charger, with WiFi on I get a drain of 4.3%per hour, with WiFi off its around 1%. I am now leaving WiFi on all the time but changing the option to always leave WiFi on when sleeping to never and it's middle ground. There are far to many people moaning about this to be a coincidence. I am on stock latest jb and performed full wipe and reset and no difference. Ics had better standby time with WiFi on, fact!
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Oh that is reasonable. This phone can last that long nonstop or close to nonstop as you did.
But my problem is idle time
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Same here yesterday I tested with full charge and with nonstop usage I was able to get 6hrs 8min with 21% percent battery left, however my battery drains quickly in standby mode. In 6 to 7hrs I loose about 20% to 34% when sleeping.
I have more drainage issue....
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I have more drainage issue....
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I see you're not on Wi-Fi a lot; are you on 3G or 4G?
4-5h screen on time with 3G/4G is the best you can get in a typical day.
My battery is quickly dropping according to my battery stats it's android usage. I did a search but only information for the SGS3 pops up. Anyway I can find out what's causing it?
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I'm having a very similar issue. I thought that screen was suppose to be the largest drain, but Android System appears to be consistently 55%+ of the battery used.
mine usually doesnt go above 20%..
its on screen percentage that is killing me lol
I wonder what's causing it.
My main usage on my S4 is the screen.
LOL Tap in the Android System in that list and see what all is listed under it. If you are running everything that Samsung added to the TouchWiz like the air view and eye tracking and such you will have the System draining your battery. Find out what you will actually use and not use and what is more for play turn off and what you will use regularly leave on. My guess is most ppl will have most if not all of it off on a normal basis
My S4 i got today from VZW i had some gestures on charged it to only 74% by noon (had to go out) and 5 hours later with just under 3 hours of screen time i was at 63% battery still and screen was 65% in the list with Android System at 12% Also screen was at 35% though not at brightest level.
Eric
Mine is showing only 5% over today. Screen is my biggest drain (as expected). Does it remain high usage after reboot?
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LOL Tap in the Android System in that list and see what all is listed under it. If you are running everything that Samsung added to the TouchWiz like the air view and eye tracking and such you will have the System draining your battery. Find out what you will actually use and not use and what is more for play turn off and what you will use regularly leave on. My guess is most ppl will have most if not all of it off on a normal basis
My S4 i got today from VZW i had some gestures on charged it to only 74% by noon (had to go out) and 5 hours later with just under 3 hours of screen time i was at 63% battery still and screen was 65% in the list with Android System at 12% Also screen was at 35% though not at brightest level.
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Oh ok. That's what I was confused about. It was fine yesterday and then today not so much lol. But I did disable some of the gestures to see if that makes a difference. Thanks
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a little update. I have seen this as well now but only after charging to full. It was not doing it yesterday cause i didn't get a chance to charge it to full until later last night. I was in and out since picking it up yesterday morning and never got it past 80%. So here is what i found.....
Once full and I unplug the phone (from the wall not usb charging obviously) the Android System is in the 50%+ of battery consumption in just a min or 2 from unplugging and seems to stay there. So after a few times of letting it get to 96% or so and recharging to check after an FDR I decided to just unplug the phone and reboot right away, the Android System never gets above 9% in the battery stats list when i reboot immediately after I unplug the phone.
Anyone with a reason why after charging, something in the list (and it's a HUGE list of apps at that) making up Android System is hanging after a full charge cycle? I mean technically, it's not a bad thing to reboot your phone each day but should you HAVE to do it?
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Click on the android OS. Is it keeping your phone awake for an extended period?
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Not sure if it'll show up, but it's eating up 65% of my battery :/. Not sure what's causing it.
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Not sure if it'll show up, but it's eating up 65% of my battery :/. Not sure what's causing it.
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My screen is at 70% and i dont know why. Its not even bright.
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My screen is at 70% and i dont know why. Its not even bright.
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Unless you are seeing your battery yield horrible life this is completely normal. Because its telling you a percent of the loss, for example your battery is at 90% so its showing you the break down of the 10% loss. So your screen is 70% of that batter loss. The screen is always going to be in the top. Thats good honestly that shows that you dont have any apps sucking down your battery more then the most power consuming hardware (screen)
My Android usage is high too. 60% is weird. I've frozen alot of stuff and only a few gesture options enabled. Would like to figure this out myself
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My Android usage is high too. 60% is weird. I've frozen alot of stuff and only a few gesture options enabled. Would like to figure this out myself
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After 3 wipes of device and also an sd card wipe I was still having android system double the power consumption then the screen. I wiped the phone and then didnt log into google and just used the web broswer and surfed for 40 mins and then checked the stats, android system was still the number one even with 40 on screen minutes. At this point I was done with this phone
I just went to verizon, the manager first tried to tell me it was because I have location settings on, then I told him that I had the issues before I turned them on. Then he tried to tell me it was because im not using power saving mode. I had to almost fight for the exchange, he finally pulled out his phone and googled it and saw that this is a known issue and then tried to tell me that because its known that I shouldnt do the exchange and wait for an update, I said no. After 2 hours I finally walked out with a new s4, I will see how this goes.
I too am having the same problem
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Wow. While this issue is somewhat annoying in the fact that something is there somewhere doing something in the background, it is not something that can be hardware related. It is just something enabled somewhere that we havent pinpointed yet. Regardless, I get great battery life and have just learned to deal with it. I know when some more roms come out and more things are figured out, it will be fixed. Its nothing to go ask for a replacement for. Not trying to sound like an a$$. Just saying
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tell me this then, if its software then we should all have the same issue, because we are all on the same build (minis the rooted / rom installed) but of the 5 devices that I have looked at only 2 have this drain? I had done a factory wipe and then DIDNT log into google, or samsung so I had only the original installed apps, and I still had the issue,
So the only real way to test it I guess is we need to have someone that confirmed doesn't have this issue they will need to make a ODIN restore and then someone with the issue needs to restore with that, then that will eliminate any possibility of hardware problems.
I see your point. I did find something in better battery stats though. On partial wake lock, there is a process called audioout_2 which had used almost 45 minutes of cpu. Clearly, by the name, it has something to do with sound output and I then realized that touch sounds were enabled on my keyboard. Hopefully disabling that helps. It may not be the whole problem but I'm willing to bet it has something to do with it.
Edit: I checked the cpu time after I turned off keyboard sounds typed alot of random letters for about 20sec then turned sounds back on then typed again for 20sec. Checked cpu time on audioout_2 and it increased that same amount of time like I thought. So I'm going to see if it helps.
Edit again: my android system usage is slowly dropping. From 67-63% in the last 20 minutes. Won't know how much it impacts it until a recharge.
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Do you guys with the high android battery usage have the Verizon ongoing connect to wifi notification? When I had it my Android system was high now that I managed to take it away is gone down a lot
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I really hate to be that guy asking stupid battery questions, because we all know that battery stamina is subjective, but this is really hard for me to understand.
I am coming from the Note 3. My general weekday use with the Note 3 would get me 14-15 hours off the charger with 50% left by quitting time. I bluetooth stream music/podcasts for 8-9 hours a day. Pandora for maybe a couple hours on some days and average screen on time of 1.5 hours. I never had to do anything special in regards to battery life. Auto brightness and just regular use and it always lasted the day easy.
Today was my 2nd day with the HTC One Max and I managed to get just over 10 hours off the charger before it was completely depleted and shut off and it died in the middle of a work shift. Normal use for me, auto brightness, maybe 1-1.5 hours screen on time (estimation). Very depressing.
Battery use in settings looked pretty normal to me although I'm not seeing a place for actual screen on time? But my question is this, is this the kind of battery life you guys are seeing? Will it get better after a couple cycles? Based on the reviews I had read before purchasing the One Max, it was stated that the Max battery out lasted the Note 3 battery in testing so I wasn't even the least bit worried about it when making my purchase.
Not sure what my issue is but I won't be able to keep this device if I can't figure this out.
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I really hate to be that guy asking stupid battery questions, because we all know that battery stamina is subjective, but this is really hard for me to understand.
I am coming from the Note 3. My general weekday use with the Note 3 would get me 14-15 hours off the charger with 50% left by quitting time. I bluetooth stream music/podcasts for 8-9 hours a day. Pandora for maybe a couple hours on some days and average screen on time of 1.5 hours. I never had to do anything special in regards to battery life. Auto brightness and just regular use and it always lasted the day easy.
Today was my 2nd day with the HTC One Max and I managed to get just over 10 hours off the charger before it was completely depleted and shut off and it died in the middle of a work shift. Normal use for me, auto brightness, maybe 1-1.5 hours screen on time (estimation) Very depressing.
Battery use looked pretty normal to me although I'm not seeing a place for actual screen on time? But my question is this, is this the kind of battery life you guys are seeing? Will it get better after a couple cycles? Based on the reviews I had read before purchasing it was stated that the Max battery out lasted the Note 3 battery in testing so I wasn't even the least bit worried about it.
Not sure what my issue is but I won't be able to keep this device if I can't figure this out.
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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pretty much the same for me too...you must have a rogue app or process sucking your battery
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That's not normal. Factory reset it and don't load your apps in right away and see what you get. I have 50% remaining most nights when it goes on the charger.
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pretty much the same for me too...you must have a rogue app or process sucking your battery
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I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
yeah, I am running viper max,and its fantastic!:good:
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I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
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Stock rom... Rooted after s-off...using exposed framework for all of the tweaks I like.
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Stock rom... Rooted after s-off...using exposed framework for all of the tweaks I like.
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My phone on Stock Everything S-Off last a whole day with usually 50% left when I get home.
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I hadn't really had time to set anything up like I usually would. The only 2 apps I had installed were Pandora and PlayerPro but I'm more than happy to wipe and start from scratch. I've downloaded everything I need for S-OFF, recovery, ROMs etc, I was just waiting to make sure everything else was in order before I start tinkering. Just curious, are either of you guys running a custom ROM?
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You don't need a custom ROM, this phone is perfect out of the box. Check with better battery stats what exactly is causing the issue. Could be Google play services.
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You don't need a custom ROM, this phone is perfect out of the box. Check with better battery stats what exactly is causing the issue. Could be Google play services.
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This is the kind of usage I am seeing. Very light usage today, maybe an hour of bluetooth music and 0 phone calls, several texts (12-15). Not sure what this means in the overall picture. I also installed BBS but not sure what I am looking for, I just know my stamina is weak sauce. :crying: I'm not sure I understand why Android system is using 75% of my battery and only has 4 minutes CPU, 24 minutes keep awake and 4mb data sent.
This is what I'm getting. I have the power flip case, but it only adds 1/3rd more battery..
*note the screen on time*
You must have an issue with something keeping your phone awake.
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Could you post your partial wake locks from better battery stats..
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Something like this would help to debug...
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Something like this would help to debug...
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Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
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Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
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Oh yeah you surely need it.. Do also dump all the data to text file using the share option..
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There is definitely something wrong there. based on your shot, it looks like a verizon phone that doesnt have the power save.
Mines an international version my girlfriend got for me, Not rooted, S-On, completely stock out of the box, and this is my stats, mines based on moderate to heavy usage: (Note: the battery power saver turns on at 14% by itself) And my battery charges in 2 hours to 100%.
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Oh bummer. I threw it on the charger as soon as I got home so there isn't really anything to see right now but I look forward to seeing how this looks tomorrow after work. Thanks.
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I have recently started listening to music over the Bluetooth and remembered this thread. were you able to able to find the issue?
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I have recently started listening to music over the Bluetooth and remembered this thread. were you able to able to find the issue?
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I haven't been able to figure it out yet. Most days its fine. Like Friday I listened to 4 hours straight of Pandora just because I wanted to see what would happen. Like usually I would stop it if I had to run errands or when I talk to people but I let it go for 4 solid hours. After bluetooth streaming 4 hours of Pandora and about 2 hours saved podcasts and 9:51 off the charger I still had 63% battery left. Thats really great results IMO. If I can get through and entire workday with 50% battery left I am thrilled. I think it was 1:13 screen on time or close. Not a lot of screen on time but that is a lot of Pandora use and that usually hits my battery the hardest.
But Tuesday earlier in the week I didn't listen to Pandora/Slacker at all, a little less than 2 hours bluetooth podcast,less than 2 hours screen on time and hit 38% by quitting time (about 10 hours off the charger). Every now and then there is a day like that where the battery just disappears even with super light use. I have GSAM installed and am trying to keep an eye on use but I always forget and plug it in when I get home (on days like Tuesday) or I plug it into the PC at some point to transfer files or photos and that reset the stats.
I tried that Snapdragon battery Guru and was really excited. The first day after it finished "learning" my routine I got through the whole day with 77% left but all day long I would stop getting texts and Gmails and the data connection would no longer work if I tried to open Facebook or Chrome. I would check status and mobile data is on, connected to the network, good signal but I couldn't get any data to work until I toggled airplane mode or rebooted the phone. SO I finally got frustrated with it, reset defaults and uninstalled it.
One thing I do notice is that I usually use 10-12% of my battery to wifi while I'm at work and the only wifi I use is when I am at home. If I turn the wifi off while I am at work I forget to turn it back on when I get home and now that I no longer have unlimited data that is a pretty big problem. I need to set an alarm or something that reminds me to turn it on/off everyday I guess.
Well, day 1 of being off the charger and I wasn't too impressed with the battery life. I am still hopeful though. Came from the Galaxy Note II which had a massive battery life. I know this is 3000 mAH... And the note was a bit bigger. Definitely going to look into cheap spare batteries or extended batteries that don't require a back door.
Please weigh in here with screen shots, Batt Stats and whatever other insight you may have.
Still excited for this phone!
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I haven't had a chance to give the G3 a good test run, but I did notice the first few days it was draining extremely fast. I downloaded CPU Spy and saw it was not going into Deep Sleep cycle. I narrowed it down to turning the Network Mode from Global to CDMA/LTE and it seemed to instantly fix the issue. The setting is found in Settings > More.. > Mobile Networks > Network Mode. Hopefully this will help some people out if they are having the same issue I was.
Good call on that setting, as far as I know it should be on LTE/CDMA anyway. It has on all my last phones anyway.
Well start getting some screenies asap.
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Day 2, was heading to bed and figured I would screenshot my stats before I put it on the charger.
I wasn't too impressed today at work, would post screens but I had to charge during work. Granted I did take off the charger last night before bed. Had about 75% when I went in. Tomorrow after a full overnight charge I'll take screens and give further updates. I did notice that screen used about 50% and Sprint Connections Optimizer placed second with a whopping 12%! So i disabled the sprint crap, and changed the network mode to CMDA/LTE as mentioned in earlier post. Will report in tomorrow!
Be sure to post what your brightness setting is left at during the day. The screen is obviously always the biggest battery killer thus I think it would be vital to know where it's running with battery stats like those. 17hrs with 4 hrs screen on is awesome... I need to figure out how to pull numbers like that. This is my first day running with the chanted network mode to LTE/CDMA so I will test and report back.
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Be sure to post what your brightness setting is left at during the day. The screen is obviously always the biggest battery killer thus I think it would be vital to know where it's running with battery stats like those. 17hrs with 4 hrs screen on is awesome... I need to figure out how to pull numbers like that. This is my first day running with the chanted network mode to LTE/CDMA so I will test and report back.
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Auto brightness, lte/cdma, and gps set to battery saver. I only turn it on high accuracy if i need to use maps
With auto brightness
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Do you happen to remember what the Screen On time was?
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So, changed the network mode to LTE/CDMA this morning and noticed the same battery drain on my phone. Got to about noon and only had 40%. Not good! I travel over half the month as a pilot so I absolutely need my battery life.
Then I just had the realization that I've been using Nova Launcher with the Ok Google hotword enabled. To me it feels like this would suck down the battery. Can anyone confirm or report on this?
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Todays battery
So here are some screen caps from my battery stats from today. wasnt TOO bad. I had data toggled OFF most of the day at work because it drains fighting for a signal. also i bounce back and forth on roaming when i go to the back. my brightness was set at 75% auto.
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So, changed the network mode to LTE/CDMA this morning and noticed the same battery drain on my phone. Got to about noon and only had 40%. Not good! I travel over half the month as a pilot so I absolutely need my battery life.
Then I just had the realization that I've been using Nova Launcher with the Ok Google hotword enabled. To me it feels like this would suck down the battery. Can anyone confirm or report on this?
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I turned it off first thing as it was on in my Nova restore. The very first thing I did with this phone in my hand was switch from global to lte/cdma. As I found it odd it was set to global, and the first place I went was network settings as this is a Spark device. I am still getting bad drain but can easily get 5 hours SOT with a lot of data usage. If it's in my pocket a lot, even with tower handoff and all systems go it's a standby beast. Keep your screens low as you can. Use Lux. It's way faster then auto brightness. Every user is different and puts different loads on their systems. Each set is different too. Not all are equal. Over all I say it's lived up to its battery hype. The screen is just a monster. Root might help. Time will tell.
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Down to 35% by 2pm. Brightness at 50% in lux, location off, sync on, and wifi on most of the day. Almost 2 hrs of screen time. I feel like im getting pretty massive drain and quickly. This just seems like such a lifestyle change from my Galaxy Note 2. Also, whenever I'm on wifi, I seem to get that sync icon in the notification bar non stop. It doesn't go away!
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I've gotten ok for the first use. Was a big show it off at world at since I'm the first to get it. Had slacker streaming through my LG tones all day while on sprints spark network and had Netflix. Both email account sync very hour and had a few calls and photos and 4k videos shot. Not that bad so far bit battery hasn't been broken in yet. I love this phone. The 1w speaker blows my m7 out the water.
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Battery much better at home. No searching for signal, plenty of use.. Calls, you tube, music, Facebook, the works. Still had a ways to go until dead but I was in need of a charge myself lol. Very happy with these stats!
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Battery much better at home. No searching for signal, plenty of use.. Calls, you tube, music, Facebook, the works. Still had a ways to go until dead but I was in need of a charge myself lol. Very happy with these stats!
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I was actively trying to kill my battery to condition it.
Long story short, 11+ hours total, +5 hours on-screen time and a 1.5 hour phone call to Verizon.
Wasn't impressed either. I won this G3 from Radioshack and am coming from my HTC One m8. May switch back as it has better battery life and interface.
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Well, day 1 of being off the charger and I wasn't too impressed with the battery life. I am still hopeful though. Came from the Galaxy Note II which had a massive battery life. I know this is 3000 mAH... And the note was a bit bigger. Definitely going to look into cheap spare batteries or extended batteries that don't require a back door.
Please weigh in here with screen shots, Batt Stats and whatever other insight you may have.
Still excited for this phone!
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Here are my stats. Wifi was off for most of the day, I was doing heavy usage on LTE for the entire morning. Blutooth, location and sync are all on. Brightness is set to 20% Auto.
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Here are my stats. Wifi was off for most of the day, I was doing heavy usage on LTE for the entire morning. Blutooth, location and sync are all on. Brightness is set to 20% Auto.
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I've been getting similar results... I'm pretty disappointed. I'm giving it another day (have had it for 3) and then I'm probably going back to my G2.
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