Dear Forum:
I recently switched from iPhone 5S to Xperia Z1c, I was a long time iOS user and now I'm getting to like to Android OS. I have installed an App called Clean Master, it helps you boost your phone's memory and clean junk files to maximize storage. This app raised my concern, does Android OS needs constantly use apps like Clean Master to boost the phone's memory and clean up storage? When using iPhones I never had to worry about whether the memory is low and needs a boost or clearing junk files. So is it highly recommended to have an app like Clean Master around when using Android? I'm not saying this is inconvenient but just want to be clear if apps like this is a must.
Thank you
short answer: no
those cleaning tools are often advertised as miracle ways to speed up your device, but android, as the modern OS it is, can liberate resources when it needs them, the only situation you could use an app like clean master is when you're low on storage and need to clean the cache from all apps
not necessarily, but better if u do.
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rightly said @Bodomizer
Bodomizer said:
short answer: no
those cleaning tools are often advertised as miracle ways to speed up your device, but android, as the modern OS it is, can liberate resources when it needs them, the only situation you could use an app like clean master is when you're low on storage and need to clean the cache from all apps
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Thank you,
that's what I also incline to believe. Thanks for confirming it for me. :good::good:
and clean master make my smartphone slowly.
I usually use Clean Master to kill background processes that takes too much space on RAM, also to clean caches.
It's all up to you anyway
Try something else like the beta of CCleaner for android
I think it's no necessary. Usualy I download it, use it and uninstall it again till next time.
didn't normally need it
iffy82 said:
didn't normally need it
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Indeed! You can clear cache with only restarting your phone once a week or a month! Apps like this can somethimes be unnecessary and beacuse they run in the background too, they can make your phone slugish!
Thanks for everyone's two cents! I will try using the phone without it then, see how it holds up.
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Nice app and clean UI. I run it on my Xiao Mi and so far so good.
cleaning application it was has a good function
Yeah necessary, it think. Because these applications clean up junk data that is not shown and we never realize. When we install an application then the application will be updated, and when the application is updated then there would be new data and an additional. Once we no longer need the application, and when we uninstall, then just deleted the application only while the additional data is not be lost and these things that we never realized, it has become duty cleaning applications to clean up this problem so that there empty space on the ram
try to learn because there are still other good function
Clean master can definitely speed up an old device by removing stored up cache and removing bloatware (if rooted).
I rarely use it now that I've switched to Lollipop.
Only use it to clean junk and cache. Are there any apps that clean -ONLY- junk / cache / empty folders ?
Clean Master claims to help battery life but I have tested it using another S3 setup exactly the same and the battery drain is identical. Is there any battery app that actually improves battery life. I'm using an S3 with Lollipop (OCT-L ROM)
having cleaning program on android its like having anti virus on you android, not really necessary but everyone use it, but if you have high spec of android device, you can install whatever you want and will not slowing down your device, btw you can clean your app cache in, "setting-app-downloaded-clear app cache" so the choice is your
bfstunoodle said:
Dear Forum:
I recently switched from iPhone 5S to Xperia Z1c, I was a long time iOS user and now I'm getting to like to Android OS. I have installed an App called Clean Master, it helps you boost your phone's memory and clean junk files to maximize storage. This app raised my concern, does Android OS needs constantly use apps like Clean Master to boost the phone's memory and clean up storage? When using iPhones I never had to worry about whether the memory is low and needs a boost or clearing junk files. So is it highly recommended to have an app like Clean Master around when using Android? I'm not saying this is inconvenient but just want to be clear if apps like this is a must.
Thank you
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SD Maid [free/paid] on the Play Store is specifically "made" for such things. hah! CCleaner--formerly Crap Cleaner was a long-time favorite on the PC and now it's for android, and it's free.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks ∆ Galaxy Tab S
ThunderBird891 said:
I think it's no necessary. Usualy I download it, use it and uninstall it again till next time.
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I think I should try your way!
bfstunoodle said:
Dear Forum:
I recently switched from iPhone 5S to Xperia Z1c, I was a long time iOS user and now I'm getting to like to Android OS. I have installed an App called Clean Master, it helps you boost your phone's memory and clean junk files to maximize storage. This app raised my concern, does Android OS needs constantly use apps like Clean Master to boost the phone's memory and clean up storage? When using iPhones I never had to worry about whether the memory is low and needs a boost or clearing junk files. So is it highly recommended to have an app like Clean Master around when using Android? I'm not saying this is inconvenient but just want to be clear if apps like this is a must.
Thank you
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Cleanmaster is an app whose size is quite big (takes space of 3 320 kbps mp3 files) and full of adwares. You will not be wishing to waste your mobile data by seeing those unnecessary ads. So better don't download, because it is not necessary at all, and there would be a time when you will be fed up with the ads it shows up!
If you are looking for a serious app, look for GREENIFY.
Note- This app hibernates background process. And yes, if you are rooted, this app is gonna help you a lot by saving your battery, when coupled with Xposed Frameword, i too use this. Your RAM will be free mostly, which cleanmaster fakes!
All the best!
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Can anyone suggesr me which is the best task killer available in the market..m using task killer from rhythm software..
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Can anyone suggesr me which is the best task killer available in the market..m using task killer from rhythm software..
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I'm running on the Advanced Task Killer, I do not have any issues with them. What's your problem?
I tried 2 3 task killers and all were showing different 'available memory'
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Yeah, ATK is the best task killer app I've been using
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I tried 2 3 task killers and all were showing different 'available memory'
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It is because different task killer have different security policy, which allow them to show the system apps or not. So, in the lower security policy, you can see more running apps and gain more memory after kill them
i do have a question. why are you using a task killer?
I'm not having a dig at people that use them, but more trying to educate people that they are not required
"free memory" is not indicative of a healthy system in linux based machines.
please remember the way in which linux based OS's (which Android is) handles memory. Basically, if you have a heap of free memory it is simply wasted, the OS is not running any more efficiently. It is actually slower.
Here is a quick overview. Written for the desktop computer perspective, but translates over to a mobile phone OS quite well.
"Traditional Unix tools like 'top' often report a surprisingly small amount of free memory after a system has been running for a while. For instance, after about 3 hours of uptime, the machine I'm writing this on reports under 60 MB of free memory, even though I have 512 MB of RAM on the system. Where does it all go?
The biggest place it's being used is in the disk cache, which is currently over 290 MB. This is reported by top as "cached". Cached memory is essentially free, in that it can be replaced quickly if a running (or newly starting) program needs the memory.
The reason Linux uses so much memory for disk cache is because the RAM is wasted if it isn't used. Keeping the cache means that if something needs the same data again, there's a good chance it will still be in the cache in memory. Fetching the information from there is around 1,000 times quicker than getting it from the hard disk. If it's not found in the cache, the hard disk needs to be read anyway, but in that case nothing has been lost in time."
Read more here - http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux Memory Management.htm
So u mean to say that we shud not use task killers?
Wat if i exit a game in btw then wat happens..will it get automatically killed??
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So u mean to say that we shud not use task killers?
Wat if i exit a game in btw then wat happens..will it get automatically killed??
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Nope, that is the reason why i have to use task killer
For me, it help me save much of battery
Since I stopped using a task killer my battery is better.
Don't use a task killer for a week and watch the difference.
gupta.anurag08 said:
So u mean to say that we shud not use task killers?
Wat if i exit a game in btw then wat happens..will it get automatically killed??
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yes and yes!
if your phone requires the resources, it will kill tasks that are no longer required. its all automatic. let it do it itself and you will have a much happier phone
AND better battery life, because the android OS is not continually restarting processes that your task killer deems unnecessary. I would trust the actual OS over a 3rd party app. It is designed that way for a reason (see my previous post).
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i do have a question. why are you using a task killer?
I'm not having a dig at people that use them, but more trying to educate people that they are not required
"free memory" is not indicative of a healthy system in linux based machines.
please remember the way in which linux based OS's (which Android is) handles memory. Basically, if you have a heap of free memory it is simply wasted, the OS is not running any more efficiently. It is actually slower.
Here is a quick overview. Written for the desktop computer perspective, but translates over to a mobile phone OS quite well.
"Traditional Unix tools like 'top' often report a surprisingly small amount of free memory after a system has been running for a while. For instance, after about 3 hours of uptime, the machine I'm writing this on reports under 60 MB of free memory, even though I have 512 MB of RAM on the system. Where does it all go?
The biggest place it's being used is in the disk cache, which is currently over 290 MB. This is reported by top as "cached". Cached memory is essentially free, in that it can be replaced quickly if a running (or newly starting) program needs the memory.
The reason Linux uses so much memory for disk cache is because the RAM is wasted if it isn't used. Keeping the cache means that if something needs the same data again, there's a good chance it will still be in the cache in memory. Fetching the information from there is around 1,000 times quicker than getting it from the hard disk. If it's not found in the cache, the hard disk needs to be read anyway, but in that case nothing has been lost in time."
Read more here - http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux Memory Management.htm
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The idea is absolutely right if memory is being used for apps you are likely to open frequently. ATK allows you to unselect the apps you want to keep running. That way you can unselect the ones you use the most and then use the widget to kill everything else.
I notice when I press the home screen many apps don't kill them selfs and after a while I have loads of apps running and the system starts to lag, specially when I try to run something else.
There are advantages in both approaches and I find a mixed combination (available with ATK) makes it best, although the user need to use some common sense to do it right. Killing everything means the system will be more responsive but regularly used apps will take longer to start up. Not killing means the apps you use a lot "startup" faster when you use them repeatedly (as in fact they never stop running) but after a bit the system will lag when using other apps and may need to use pagefile/swap to atone for the lack of free RAM. That causes page faults which make the system even slower.
The iphone developers aren't complete idiots for killing every app. They have a priority for system responsiveness and they did achieve it at the cost of background running apps. I like the possibility to choose what I want to keep running and kill the apps I'm not likely to use again and it's one of the reasons I picked android.
A little Offtopic to both ifanboys and ihaters:
I never owned any apple product as I think of them as over priced. That said I think the iphone has great merit and I doubt very much we would have Android if the iphone didn't pave the way. Besides I jailbreak my brother's 3G and made it multitask enabled. Now it runs apps in background and there is little diference between it and my android. Except for the extra 200€ it cost, the lower hardware specs and expensive service provider contract my brother pays for a mandatory 24 months, while my X10 cost ~65% initially and came free of any contract.
well said, PCO
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I notice when I press the home screen many apps don't kill them selfs and after a while I have loads of apps running and the system starts to lag, specially when I try to run something else.
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Thats what I and others have found, which is why some people choose to use one, myself included. Someone posted a link to an article last week with similar information posted here about the OS handling itself, but the comments section of the article were full of comments similar to what pco and myself have said, so it's all down to personal preference whether or not you choose to use one.
I did use a task killer for a while, then stopped. Personally my phone is better without. I have nothing except weather that updates automatically, I do it manually when I need it.
It is one of those things, just like on a laptop, everyone has different configurations and usage patterns that results will vary.
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Don't apps exit when you keep hitting the back button? And for games doesn't hitting exit shut down the app?
I thought its a feature that apps don't close when you hit the home button?
gavriel18 said:
Don't apps exit when you keep hitting the back button? And for games doesn't hitting exit shut down the app?
I thought its a feature that apps don't close when you hit the home button?
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The browser for instance doesn't. Same with many other. I think it's up to each individual developer to program that behavior for his app.
I got Visual task switcher and I notice lots of apps just stay running forever.
Task killer caused probs for me. A daily switch off doesnt hurt, but have run mine for 7 days and been ok. Even a bberry cant do that!
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Guys, don't use home button to exit apps.
Will just send them in background.
Use the back button... this won't exit (most of) the apps but will put them in a "sleep" state so, next time when you will use it, it will load faster.
So, again, home button will put the app in background, still running.
Test it with an audio player for ex.
Or a browser... send it in background with home button and the player will still play or the browser will still have that page loaded.
With back button, after all views are "closed" the app will close too (well, put in sleep state).
I use ATK only to kill the apps i use once in a while ... the rest of the stuff, is always in memory.
My X10 has usually about 25Mb free
Actually I used ATK to kill application that need to connect to internet, and in my case there is extra charge payment. But after i used ATK I don't notice that the battery live is longer. So I ever ask someone in my thread about after ATK kill applications and so forth....
And somebody told me to quit using ATK and now I realize that the battery last longer than before.
But one thing still bother me is:
Setting - Wireless control - mobile network - mms & data (no checklist)
means: I can not access internet and receive or send mms either.
Actually I only need MMS, not internet.
May be somebody can help me solve this problem.
Thanks.
But my conclusion:
NO NEED ADVANCE TASK KILLER.
After I uninstall ATK, my phone still running smooth and the battery last longer.
May be we just need best Cache cleaner. But I still trying some of that.
@pco.vaz
I don't want to be mean, but you are wrong.
Even those iOS versions that are not multitasking enabled keep apps in memory. Leaving an app on an iPhone resets its UI state and halts its processes, but parts of the app are left in the memory. You can see the difference in loading speed if you decide to reopen it.
There were apps that could show memory usage and clean it on the App Store, but Apple removed them. You can still get them through Cydia and see for yourself how memory management on iTouch devices actually works. Basically the iPhone goes as low as 3-4 megs of free memory and handles it in smiliar way as Android.
On both Android and iOS, apps that are in background are paused after a while and do not use processor cycles. Memory they keep occupying is overwritten if needed by another process.
I do not recommend using task killer to people who do not know what they are doing exactly. Killing even simple processes often causes phone instability and drains battery faster, as others have already said.
If you feel your phone is stalled, perform a simple reboot. There are apps that run in background (in most cases you are warned about this) or are poorly coded that could cause this behavior. Other than that, inbuilt application manager is able to force close apps pretty well, if you need to kill a single app causing problems
I can't understand something on android system.
When I boot my mini pro, I can see in a (for example) Open Advanced Task Killer lot of aps.. (see attachment)
Now I see Skype in a list of active processes. I do not understand is it now skype active and loaded in system? I asked this because I'm not signed in to skype, and it is configured to not loaded when system boot.
If not in which state are now all this apps?
I have same questions for other few programs, for example Samba file sharing. It is disabled in his config. I mean apk is not freezed. But it is loaded in processes list!
I see that all those aps eat memory, so y question is, is there any solution to disable this aps and load it only when I want to use it, and when I closed them to stayed disable!
Thx for help.
this app are in background.. it dosent effect much your system.. usually it is automatically loaded.. just kill/forcekill the app if you need more memory...
Nothing wrong with it, these programs just autorun in background for functionality purposes.
When you actually start using an app, android will automatically free up memory to make that app work.
Carpe-Dimi said:
Nothing wrong with it, these programs just autorun in background for functionality purposes.
When you actually start using an app, android will automatically free up memory to make that app work.
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I think you didn't understand me..
These aps using my memory even they are not started and active..
That is the confusion at me!
like i said it just automatically loaded in background, if you want to free up memory you can just kill it...
if it is not being used at all you can just uninstall it.. but be perfectly sure if you uninstall a system app... it will free up memory and save battery life..
paradorx said:
like i said it just automatically loaded in background, if you want to free up memory you can just kill it...
if it is not being used at all you can just uninstall it.. but be perfectly sure if you uninstall a system app... it will free up memory and save battery life..
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Thx..but, if they using my memory and "app's not running" then I do not understand the purpose why are loaded they?
Is there any solution to load they only when I need it, like in windows system?
I mean, when I close that app that it close fully and my memory freed up!
easyyu said:
I think you didn't understand me..
These aps using my memory even they are not started and active..
That is the confusion at me!
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I completely understood you
these apps are given memory by the android OS to run in background. there they do simple things such as syncing and checking for updates, or other things that i don't know of. this is functional, because when you open the app, it won't take forever to load and do what u want it to do.
However...
If you open an application (so it actively runs in the foreground) and it needs memory, the android OS will take the memory from your background apps and give it to the foreground app to use.
so, nothing to worry about as it has a functional purpose and won't interfere with your actual phone usage
if you don't want apps to use a lot of memory tho, you could try setting the vm heap size to something lower. (I believe 32M is standard) but this also limits the memory usage of the foreground app.
Carpe-Dimi said:
I completely understood you
these apps are given memory by the android OS to run in background. there they do simple things such as syncing and checking for updates, or other things that i don't know of. this is functional, because when you open the app, it won't take forever to load and do what u want it to do.
However...
If you open an application (so it actively runs in the foreground) and it needs memory, the android OS will take the memory from your background apps and give it to the foreground app to use.
so, nothing to worry about as it has a functional purpose and won't interfere with your actual phone usage
if you don't want apps to use a lot of memory tho, you could try setting the vm heap size to something lower. (I believe 32M is standard) but this also limits the memory usage of the foreground app.
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Thx for answer..but this still no option for me.
I wanted to "stoped" apps at boot, and just then used it when I need it. And when I exit from some app to free memory and fully exit from android system like in windows systems.
easyyu said:
I can't understand something on android system.
When I boot my mini pro, I can see in a (for example) Open Advanced Task Killer lot of aps.. (see attachment)
Now I see Skype in a list of active processes. I do not understand is it now skype active and loaded in system? I asked this because I'm not signed in to skype, and it is configured to not loaded when system boot.
If not in which state are now all this apps?
I have same questions for other few programs, for example Samba file sharing. It is disabled in his config. I mean apk is not freezed. But it is loaded in processes list!
I see that all those aps eat memory, so y question is, is there any solution to disable this aps and load it only when I want to use it, and when I closed them to stayed disable!
Thx for help.
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They are running on background and are programmed to start when booting ur phone, some apps like IM+ has the option to disable it, try doing it...
Hope it helps
XxLordxX said:
They are running on background and are programmed to start when booting ur phone, some apps like IM+ has the option to disable it, try doing it...
Hope it helps
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But most of them have not, and thats the problem!!
For example, skype and many other.
Every morning when I take my photon off the charger the memory has only about 60mb free. I reboot and it goes back to 451 free. I looked at system panel app and there was no one app that had a bunch of used memory. Oh and I just did a full wipe and a brand new mr3 flash last night. Any help would be great.
joetemp75 said:
Every morning when I take my photon off the charger the memory has only about 60mb free. I reboot and it goes back to 451 free. I looked at system panel app and there was no one app that had a bunch of used memory. Oh and I just did a full wipe and a brand new mr3 flash last night. Any help would be great.
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Android OS does not operate in the same fashion as Windows. Do not look to free RAM as some sort of performance metric, it'll get you nowhere. This is also another reason why Automated Task Killers are horrible.
In essence, Android intentionally pre-loads apps into RAM as it sees fit. Therefore apps will kick in faster when you actually invoke them. If an active app requires more RAM, the OS will manage itself and toss out a different app as needed.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Beknatok said:
Android OS does not operate in the same fashion as Windows. Do not look to free RAM as some sort of performance metric, it'll get you nowhere. This is also another reason why Automated Task Killers are horrible.
In essence, Android intentionally pre-loads apps into RAM as it sees fit. Therefore apps will kick in faster when you actually invoke them. If an active app requires more RAM, the OS will manage itself and toss out a different app as needed.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
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Thanks but the problem is that the phone is almost frozen when the memory is gone. when I reboot it the speed is back so maybe it is a different problem
joetemp75 said:
Thanks but the problem is that the phone is almost frozen when the memory is gone. when I reboot it the speed is back so maybe it is a different problem
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I would suggest focusing your investigation towards CPU consumption & apps that are holding wake-locks then, not necessarily RAM consumption.
Beknatok said:
I would suggest focusing your investigation towards CPU consumption & apps that are holding wake-locks then, not necessarily RAM consumption.
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Yea that's the thing when I look at system panel the country is low and spare parts doesn't work till I root. Is there any other applications that will show me wake locks?
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Monitoring is your friend.
The question - How do you find a memory leak may not be the question that you are looking for.
Beknatok - answered the question correctly to what you were searching for.
There are services that start up on loading or different "Intents". These are actions that cause applications to be involved.
For example, with low storage - IMDB loads. I have no clue why, but the intent is for Low Storage condition run whatever subscribes to that intent.
If you are looking to try to find a memory leak you may have to revert to the debugger -
Try this:
Install Android SDK
Then read the link below
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/debugging/ddms.html
Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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Well guys, i always listen about the ram used in android is different than windows..
My first question is, why RAM is like 90% used, the phone become slower???
My second question is, Why 99% of apps are always started with phone, when enter in Applications section, and see Running apps, you see millions of apps, or when you enter like, Calculator or Torch or another app details it appears Stop.. WHEN I STARTED IT?
Im now user of Galaxy S Duos, when i have Motorola Atrix using a custom rom named "Neutrino" my ram, after flash it was 80~90 and here in Galaxy S Duos is 390~500 and the max is 685mb so so, than when press clean RAM, it closes a certain number of processes but only 50mb ram max it decreases... Why?? And what can i do about that??
Thanks!!!!
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First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
kuisma said:
First, the Linux system (as Android is based upon) always try to make use of all available RAM. Having unallocated RAM is wasteful, so all RAM not used for apps, is allocated for caches etc, making your device not slower, but faster. When this memory is needed for better purposes such as apps, it is dynamically reassigned.
The other question I'm quite don't get, please clarify it and I'll give it a try. But Android do start and stop apps as it see fit, unnoticed by the user. This is the Android way of resource management, instead of paging/swapping. I.e. Android "swaps" entire apps, not RAM. As a developer, you have to know this, making your app able to handle a restart as transparent to the user as possible.
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Yes, i know about that but i'm crazy because when my phone is slower i see the ram and it has apparently 500mb used from 680mb total... And i click on Clean, it closes like 20 apps and clean 100~mb aprox. of ram, and the phone becomes faster... That is my question, i know about linux... in galaxy s duos have an option to kill until number of processes you would... But didnt work i think because, i put max to 3 processes but even when i close the apps with back button, like facebook, instagram and another without home button, it stills on memory, taking the phone slower
But thanks for trying help me :victory:
Install this app Greenify search in play store
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I have it but dont know how to use? I need to select one by one the apps that i want?? :/
It's need root and you need to select the desired app, when your screen turned off for some minutes then greenify force stop your selected app.
If you don't understand try to search in YouTube and xda
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How do I free up RAM for my Samsung Note II LTE GT-N7105 on stock Android 4.3, rooted?
I am an Android retarded user looking for a patient teacher who will walk me through the Android RAM mysteries and answer a few question and, in exchnage, I can teach about the secret world of Traditional Neapolitan coffee infusion: home roasting, grinding, preparation and... savouring or, alternatively, Home Theatre! Your pick!
Smiles!
On average, at startup,
- Clean Master shows:
> 50% RAM
> 70% Device Storage
> 20% SDcard External Storage.
- Titanium Back shows:
> 500MB free RAM (of 2.11GB)
> 4GB free Internal+Media (of 10.9GB)
> 50GB free ExtSDcard (of 63.8GB)
Starting with these numbers, the device freezes after a bit of usage of the Swipe (Nuance) App. But I recently played with a 78 year old banker's GT-N7105, which was 20 times faster than mine, while running the same Swipe keyboard App: "My nephew geeks around a forum called xda-developers!"
1. In general, what's the relationship between installed Apps and RAM usage? Sometimes when I kill an app it frees up a bit of RAM, sometimes a lot and sometimes nothing at all.
2. Do installed (but not opened) Apps take up RAM space just by sitting in my Apps drawer? Should I uninstall all the Apps which I downloaded because "one day I might need it" and never used them or are they harmless (RAM wise) if I don't open them?
3. Do Apps which have been launched and now sit in the background take up RAM (as in Windows)?
4. Is there any difference between "fereezing" and "un-installing" an app as far as device operation speed is concerned?
5. Do I need to make sure that Apps don't start up if I don't need them (Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Goggle Translation, YouTube, Video Player, S Voice, Picasa Uploader, Nearby Service, Nearby Devices, SNS)?
6. If they eat up RAM, how do I make sure that they don't self start? Android Assistant App?
7. If background open Apps eat up RAM, is there a way to kill them automatically once I open a new one without loosing the cahced data which i might be using?
Thanks in advance for your time and expertise.
ascanio1 said:
How do I free up RAM for my Samsung Note II LTE GT-N7105 on stock Android 4.3, rooted?
I am an Android retarded user looking for a patient teacher who will walk me through the Android RAM mysteries and answer a few question and, in exchnage, I can teach about the secret world of Traditional Neapolitan coffee infusion: home roasting, grinding, preparation and... savouring or, alternatively, Home Theatre! Your pick!
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On average, at startup,
- Clean Master shows:
> 50% RAM
> 70% Device Storage
> 20% SDcard External Storage.
- Titanium Back shows:
> 500MB free RAM (of 2.11GB)
> 4GB free Internal+Media (of 10.9GB)
> 50GB free ExtSDcard (of 63.8GB)
Starting with these numbers, the device freezes after a bit of usage of the Swipe (Nuance) App. But I recently played with a 78 year old banker's GT-N7105, which was 20 times faster than mine, while running the same Swipe keyboard App: "My nephew geeks around a forum called xda-developers!"
1. In general, what's the relationship between installed Apps and RAM usage? Sometimes when I kill an app it frees up a bit of RAM, sometimes a lot and sometimes nothing at all.
2. Do installed (but not opened) Apps take up RAM space just by sitting in my Apps drawer? Should I uninstall all the Apps which I downloaded because "one day I might need it" and never used them or are they harmless (RAM wise) if I don't open them?
3. Do Apps which have been launched and now sit in the background take up RAM (as in Windows)?
4. Is there any difference between "fereezing" and "un-installing" an app as far as device operation speed is concerned?
5. Do I need to make sure that Apps don't start up if I don't need them (Google Play Services, Google Play Store, Goggle Translation, YouTube, Video Player, S Voice, Picasa Uploader, Nearby Service, Nearby Devices, SNS)?
6. If they eat up RAM, how do I make sure that they don't self start? Android Assistant App?
7. If background open Apps eat up RAM, is there a way to kill them automatically once I open a new one without loosing the cahced data which i might be using?
Thanks in advance for your time and expertise.
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Ugggg I hate this app lately! Just spent ten minuets answering all your points fully and it gave me stupid permission error! Even wrote a nice analogy about ram and libraries...forgive me if I'm brief now
Sum it up
Poorly made apps or ones that need to stay in the background to operate fully or spy on you stay in ram, many don't, dump bad and seldom used apps, stay away from task killers, if you need one use watchdog, see what's actually using cpu, better battery stats or cpu spy can help too. Freezing is fine, v6supercharger can help you, setting background process limit in developer settings can help
You have a nice snappy phone, get rid of junk and use nice roms and you'll have no issues
Secret world of traditional neapolitan coffee infusion sounds intriguing
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i would suggest installing and using greenify, since u already rooted.
post #3 of that thread is worth reading, probably will answer most, if not all of your question regarding android ram usage
@an0nym0us_
Cool advice, thanks! I installed and I will try it now.
@an0nym0us_
Cool advice, thanks! I installed and I will try it now.
@demkantor
I only got the jist of it but I didn't really understand... any chance to try again, when you have more time on your hands?
There are 3 aspects that make up coffee flavour: the beans' quality, roasting and preparation.
Beans (origin, ripeness, homogeneity, dryness) and roasting (tempreature, duration) are, for now, out of your reach. But preparation isn't.
Most infusion's preparation depends on 3 basic parameters:
- temperature
- time
- contact surface.
Threfore brewing time and temperature and the beans' grind size (and also the grinding method) will influence the coffee taste: the greater the time, temperature (up to 95°C) and surface the greater the organoleptic proprieties' transfer will occurr. Which does not necessarily mean the better taste... more on that in the next lesson.
Organoleptic properties are the aspects of food or other substances as experienced by the senses, including taste, sight, smell, and touch, in cases where dryness, moisture, and stale-fresh factors are to be considered.