Hello, anybody used Sculpt Mobile Keyboard or the Arc Keyboard on the PRO 12.2? How is it?
What are the differences between keyboards for Android and normal keyboards for Windows? Can I assume that as long as a keyboard is bluetooth, it should work with Android tablets? I suppose keyboards for Android tablets have cut/copy/phase buttons.
I have an old Microsoft Arc wireless keyboard that I used to use for my HTPC that works fine with the Note Pro using its USB dongle plugged into a USB OTG cable. Hotkey combinations like CTRL-C and CTRL-V work just like they do on a Windows machine.
I also have a Logitech Tablet Keyboard that's a standalone unit that opertates on Bluetooth. I cant say that I recommend that one, it's a battery killer whereby with the unit switched off (this is with a hardwired switch mind you) the two AA batteries will die after several weeks unused. Hard to believe I can go a couple of months using my cable/TV remote control every day as opposed to storing that keyboard unused and turned off.
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Do you mean this: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/tablet-keyboard-android-win8-rt?crid=26
Besides being a battery killer, how is it compared with the Logitech PRO for 12.2? My tablet is white. It is a bit strange to use a black Logitech PRO case with keyboard. Also, I heard that it is quite heavy compared with the Logitech Tablet Keyboard. Am I right?
Yeah that's essentially the one. I think they made a couple of variants and that is the latest incarnation of it. Mine is the 3.0+ but it looks exactly the same.
I'm stuck trying to decide whether or not to buy an integrated keyboard case. I'm leaning towards not doing so because if I'm going to lug the tablet around in a thick keyboard case I may as well carry my rMBP. I bought the note pro to carry with me practically everywhere I go so turning it into a laptop is NOT on my wishlist. On the other hand I do want a keyboard that I can shove into a suitcase when I travel such that I have somewhat of a laptop replacement once I'm at my destination.
All of that said the difference between the Logitech Tablet Keyboard and the Logitech Pro Keyboard Case boils down to whether or not you always need the keyboard functionality. They both weigh about the same once in a bag, though you save a few ounces on the stand alone keyboard compared to the keyboard case. With the keyboard case you'll have to deal with the keyboard being part of the tablet all of the time and it will undoubtedly be heavier than a plain book cover type case (the Samsung Book Cover Case is a full 0.75 lbs lighter than the Logitech Pro Keyboard Case).
I have the note pro 12 and bought the very light but very good samsung bt keyboaed. It's designation is bkb something or other. It's about $35 on ebay and has many hot keys linked to the np12.2. I also have several by mice but just ordered the samsung action s mouse which i also operates hot key-like on the np12. Carrying the np, keyboard and mouse is featherweight compared to a my old macbook air.
I don't need a keyboard all the time. A lightweight, comfortable keyboard is nice. Somebody mentioned about the Logitech Bluetooth illuminated keyboard K810.
i was looking around for a long time for a keyboard that I didnt have to always use and could have it not be attached to a case or anything. Also the size of the keyboard and how well it worked. I ended up buying the sparin ultra thin bluetooth off amazon on my way to work really quick. I got it a few days ago and it is very very thin and light and the length is about the size of he tablet (a little smaller). it sits perfectly on the rest of my 3 angle case when its all the way up or I can sit far back and use it. he keys are not that rubbery kind and are actually larger size keys , bigger then my laptops buttons. Also I can use the buttons to control the usage of my device and has a mail button that brings up your email and voice search button and even a button that you can press to bring the virtual keyboard back up on the screen or away so you can use either without having to reconnect it everytime. Easy to setup , turn switch on push button to pair bluetooth and thats it. here is the link if your interested and it was only 15 bucks.
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GAX7JYQ/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
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Okay I have a new mini keyboard / trackpad for to use with the G Tab. It seems to go by multiple names on Amazon officially it is Rii Mini Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad (RT-MWK01)
The keyboard is about the size of a cell phone. Has a backlit keyboard, and uses RF instead of bluetooth and includes a laser pointer. The Amazon description says bluetooth and the company makes a bluetooth version but Amazon is mixing thier like products and the reviews.
When I first received the keyboard I was a bit concerned that I had bought a product that would not work for its intended purpose, though they said it works with multiple flavors of UNIX. So while it was charging I tried other hardware with the keyboard to test all the functions and all worked as expected. I was not optimistic about the RF dongle working but a was pleasantly surprised that the dongle was seen and the keyboard worked as it should have. The trackpad is another matter. when I first tried to use it the function was skewed so that up and down was left and right and left and right was up and down. There is a key combo on the tablet which rotates the tablet function. This corrected the pad and gave the correct alignment. Also the laser pointer does work so now I can amuse my cats and try to be productive.
So the down side, the battery is loose in the unit. Which makes me wonder about the longevity of this keyboard. The amazon reviews have some bad reviews based on build quality. The trackpad is not able to scroll across the full screen. It can only scroll the cross hairs about 2/3 of the screen across the width and just stop. I can find no way to modify this behavior. This is the least of my concerns as this is a tablet so I am not sure I need a track pad.
As I have only had this just over a day I will update the review as I get to use the keyboard more.
Die Fledermaus said:
Okay I have a new mini keyboard / trackpad for to use with the G Tab. It seems to go by multiple names on Amazon officially it is Rii Mini Wireless Keyboard with Touchpad (RT-MWK01)
The keyboard is about the size of a cell phone. Has a backlit keyboard, and uses RF instead of bluetooth and includes a laser pointer. The Amazon description says bluetooth and the company makes a bluetooth version but Amazon is mixing thier like products and the reviews.
When I first received the keyboard I was a bit concerned that I had bought a product that would not work for its intended purpose, though they said it works with multiple flavors of UNIX. So while it was charging I tried other hardware with the keyboard to test all the functions and all worked as expected. I was not optimistic about the RF dongle working but a was pleasantly surprised that the dongle was seen and the keyboard worked as it should have. The trackpad is another matter. when I first tried to use it the function was skewed so that up and down was left and right and left and right was up and down. There is a key combo on the tablet which rotates the tablet function. This corrected the pad and gave the correct alignment. Also the laser pointer does work so now I can amuse my cats and try to be productive.
So the down side, the battery is loose in the unit. Which makes me wonder about the longevity of this keyboard. The amazon reviews have some bad reviews based on build quality. The trackpad is not able to scroll across the full screen. It can only scroll the cross hairs about 2/3 of the screen across the width and just stop. I can find no way to modify this behavior. This is the least of my concerns as this is a tablet so I am not sure I need a track pad.
As I have only had this just over a day I will update the review as I get to use the keyboard more.
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Got the same keyboard to use with Asus TF101 but it does not seem to use standard Bluetooth protocol... I cant pair it with any BT device. I always have to use the RF dongle in order to work.
did you pair it without the dongle?
Anyone ever try one of these cheap BT keyboards from ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mini-Wireless-B...cessories&hash=item20b9fefac8#ht_10638wt_1139
There's tons of them.
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
SirhanSirhan said:
It appears to be smaller than the phone in the picture. I cannot see what advantage it would provide.
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That thing in the background is actually the front of a laptop, I think. But here's another one, with a hand in the pic for size reference:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Mini-B...Trackballs&hash=item2c5d194867#ht_6608wt_1139
But as to what advantage it would provide:
1st of all, I type MUCH faster on a tactile keyboard (as most people do in reality).
2nd- tablet can be propped up on a stand and still enter test comfortably (I've found it difficult to type on a vertical screen, and placing it horizontally on my lap for a long message can negatively effect the viewing angle)
3rd- can be used remotely or when hands are dirty (think- kitchen / cooking / recipe tablet).
4th- console gaming. Nothing beats buttons for emulators.
I like that it is so portable, otherwise a full sized case + KB sort of approaches the size of a netbook which almost defeats the purpose of having this.
What I really wanted to know if these are just poor build quality or really uncomfortable to type on (I LOVED my touch pro 2 keypad, which this reminds me of, but not all kbs are created equal).
Additionally, there are other shapes and sizes, all around the same price on ebay. Seem to come from similar sellers, probably manufactured in one plant. Here's something more full sized:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Wireless-Blueto...ccessories&hash=item2311642184#ht_3553wt_1139
I can't really offer any insight to answer your question, as I have no experience with these one way or another... but I am quite interested in the answer. If you end up going this route and trying it, please post back here with the results... I'd be interested in a product like this, but build quality would also be a primary concern for me.
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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Here you are.
How comfy is it being used as a desktop keyboard not as a thumb keyboard ?
Thanks
update: looks too small for touch typing (as noted in amazon reviews). So I like the caps lock led (not available on any other slim BT keyboard I have checked)
Also note that Android does not support the Bluetooth HID profile (looks like the underlying stack supports it since 2.1 or 2.2 but there's nothing in the ROM).
There's a free apk that might work "bluetooth easyconnect".
I've been edging around a semi expensive ~20USD apk that definitely works with my iGo BT keyboard, but they lock to phone ID and, on the gtab, that changes when you change ROMs...
toreyjh said:
I ordered this keyboard from Amazon about a month ago, works great with both my GTab running Vegan 5.1.1 and my rooted EVO.
I apparently can't post links because I'm new, but search amazon for this:
Handheld Mini Bluetooth HID Wireless Chicklet Keyboard with Mouse Control Combo for Media Center PC, Windows 7/Vista/XP, Apple iPad & Sony PS3
It's like $35 and well worth it, I wrote a whole 5 page paper with it, pretty slick
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to. I got it to pair but it never connected, I even downloaded bluetooth keyboard easy connect but it would not let me pick the keyboard in the drop down menu. What is supposed to be the pin to help me get this working with my g-tab?
I am using Vegan GE 7.0. Thanks for any help you or anyone else can provide.
Oh, it never occurred to me that we would be missing the HID profile in bluetooth!
I just assumed if the iPad does it, certainly Android has it built in (thinking back to A2DP and other stuff Android supported first).
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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I bought the bt keyboard that aasoror linked to.
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And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
I got it to pair but it never connected
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Have you tried the trick here.
Dishe said:
That really stinks- are BT keyboards not an option??
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There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
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And how did you like it ? is it good for touch typing ?
Have you tried the trick here.
There is plenty of BT KB's running on the GTab, just look around.
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I got it to work
I like it because its wireless and doesn't need a usb dongle or anything, but its hard to type on it for than a few minutes. Obviously it is a lot better than typing on the GTab but I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
I already had a Rii Mini Wireless keyboard from before so I thought, hell it couldn't hurt to give it a try on my GTab. And it works! Even the touchpad! I would rather use that because it is smaller (thus more portable) and it has backlighting on it. I could type in the dark! Of course there is a Bluetooth version for the Rii Mini as well (around $40), but I think I have spent enough money on keyboards for my GTab lol.
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I got it to work
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imdaman99 said:
I wish it were smaller or bigger (small enough to thumb type, or big enough that it wasn't cramped and getting tiresome typing with both hands and all my fingers.)
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I am now thinking about a little bigger keyboard, seems suitable for touch typing.
I bought a BT keyboard off ebay for 19$ and it will not connect at all with my GTab. It will not connect w my samsung fascinate android either but will connect w my Ps3 and my ipod. Go figure.
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Hi, I am looking for a lightweight and comfortable keyboard for the PRO 12.2 Some users use the Logitech Bluetooth Illuminated Keyboard K810. How is it compared with the Tablet Keyboard for Windows and Android? Is there any other keyboard that is lighter and comfortable to type than these two? I am also interested in foldable ones.
Tablet keyboard for windows and android
Wedge mobile keyboard
Arc keyboard
Sorry can't post outside links due to restrictions from forum.
I've got the K810. It's very light and 5mm smaller than the tablet itself. (Easy to put in the same sleeve or bag).
I do also on occasion use OTG to connect to a fairly cheap (10 quid) foldable USB keyboard.
I don't own any of the others, so I can't compare.
My tablet keyboard for Windows and android sucks. ..batteries.
The AAA batteries inside will discharge even with the physical power switch turned off. This means that regardless of use I end up with about 6 weeks on a set of 4 and I rarely use the keyboard. It could be that my unit has a faulty power switch though. The radio within the keyboard turns off (keyboard no longer seen by my devices) as does the LEDs when the keyboard is switched off but perhaps there's still a bad connection internally. Thought i'd mention it anyway though.
Other than that it works perfectly fine for me so I've lived with it for the past couple of years.
The reason that I rarely use the keyboard is that I always have both my macbook pro and the note pro with me at home, work or travel so I haven't felt the need to carry the separate keyboard too. I'm sort of stuck in between the decision of whether or not i should bulk up my note pro with a keyboard case thus making it nearly as big as my macbook pro or should I stick with the external keyboard I rarely use LOL. With 90% of what I do with the note pro being browsing and media consumption thus far I haven't dropped money on a keyboard case.
I picked up the AERB IBK-02 keyboard from Amazon. It's fairly comfortable to type on and is just slightly wider than the tablet. It fits nicely in the base of my tablet's case when I have it open for reading. So far, I'm pleased with the performance and comfortabilty of the keyboard. It also has a trackpad on the right side of the keyboard which is a huge plus....Unfortunately it loses connectivity with a regularity my bowels would envy. For the price, it is extremely good. Issues with the trackpad aside, I can't complain about anything else....And I suppose I can just touch the screen, ya know.
I'm going to do a full review of it...After rebooting the tablet my trackpad issues essentially vanished. This keyboard is perfect.
I have been using the Logitech K400 because of the built in mouse pad similar to the above mentioned keyboard.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400r?crid=26
I have since discovered there are two updated versions that may suit others needs with the Note Pro even better. One is very similar to the K800 but has a mouse pad and is backlit. It looks like an awesome keyboard but I am not sure a backlit keyboard is best for my portable needs. I guess I can always turn the lights off to conserve energy. It uses the 2.4GHz wireless adapter.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/living-room-keyboard-k830?crid=26
The last one is the K480 which is a bluetooth device with a unique design. It has a slot to hold your phone or a smaller tablet and can sync with up to 3 devices. This doesn't seem like it would hold our 12.2 tablet but for those who already have a stand and just want a keyboard this might work if you want to sync to multiple devices.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multi-device-keyboard-k480?crid=26
ShadowLea said:
I've got the K810. It's very light and 5mm smaller than the tablet itself. (Easy to put in the same sleeve or bag).
I do also on occasion use OTG to connect to a fairly cheap (10 quid) foldable USB keyboard.
I don't own any of the others, so I can't compare.
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K810 on sale on Amazon got one for $55
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Will the original keyboard be on sale anytime soon? Did anyone find a compatible chinese one with pogo pins?
I'm also interested!
@Ashyslashy Did you find any??
Thanks!
Nope. I feel quite deceived by Huawei at this point. Their site says "keyboard sold separately", not "the original keyboard will never be sold".
I got an email from Huawei this morning saying the Mediapad M5 will be available on May 30th, 2018 when I asked them about Amazon availability. I'm hopeful that other items will be in the shipment.
Might be a stupid question:
Is the Pogo-Pin system standardized in any way?
So that each 4-Pin KEyboard works with each 4-Pin Tablet and so on ....
I fear not, but I love clarity!
Anything new for this?
I can find them on eBay/AliExpress/GearBest, but I was hoping for something more official from Huawei...
I found an "official" Huawei one on ebay. I just came in the other day and I am typing on it right now. it is working great! came in a huawei branded box all sealed up. it's nice. the keyboard is very responsive. the touch mouse is smooth. it even has a mpen holder. I just searched huawei m5 keyboards and found one that said official and rolled the dice. it was about 124.
The original huawei keyboard case is really nice and slim but I'm still looking for cheaper keyboard case. Anyone found something similar?
How are you getting on with the case, is it actually a Huawei made case, is it worth close to £100, what you mainly using it for?
Sorry for all the questions, but am scared off of it because of price, and maybe thinking it will add alot to the thickness. Wish I could see it in a shop.
Thanks
Jim
If you are looking for the genuine keyboard case, you can find it :
- here (for QWERTY keyboard)
- here (for AZERTY keyboard)
I got the original, "Amork" one with the tablet and it is pretty nice and comfortable to use but two small pins holding the tablet are weak points. One of them broke just after 15 days of moderate usage and by the time I went to replace it, the shop I bought the tablet in said they had none to sell separately from tablet and apparently they sell for $125, which is borderline preposterous.
The positive is that the original uses the connector pins rather than bluetooth. Bluetooth will slow down you wireless network connection. Sadly the trackpad really sucks.
Physical Keyboard Layout when connected to M5 Tablet
Hi Guys,
I am seriously impressed with my very recent Huawei M5 10.8" tablet purchase, over the moon in fact!
So much so, I quickly decided to invest in the 'Original' Huawei keyboard with the 4-pin connector, and it really is a very nice accessory. The keyboard which I received yesterday does not look like it has the standard UK keyboard layout, but I wasn't overly concerned about that detail....at first!!!
Anyway, as hard as I've tried, I just cannot get the tablet keyboard language settings to change, so they exactly match the physical button layout on the physical keyboard! When I dock the tablet, it seems to be locked into the SwiftKey (UK) & Gboard (UK) keyboard language layouts, and doesn't allow me to change to another language? When it is disconnected I can change the keyboard language settings on the Virtual Keyboard very easily.
So to summarise, whenever I am typing on the physical keyboard, I am always getting UK characters symbols on the tablet screen and not the actual symbol that is on the physical keyboard. This is mildly frustrating, and I'm not sure about what I can to do fix this problem.
My next move will be to uninstall or disable the Gboard & SwiftKey apps, and see if that will force the tablet to use a generic Android Keyboard, that may allow the tablet to better interact with the physical keyboard.
The tablet was bought from Amazon.co.uk and the keyboard was bought from Gearbest, and I think it has a US keyboard layout, but I'm not 100% certain?
Anyone on this thread got any thoughts or ideas?
Best Regards
George T. Smith
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I got the original, "Amork" one with the tablet and it is pretty nice and comfortable to use but two small pins holding the tablet are weak points. One of them broke just after 15 days of moderate usage and by the time I went to replace it, the shop I bought the tablet in said they had none to sell separately from tablet and apparently they sell for $125, which is borderline preposterous.
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I had similar, what I did was just get a replacement and I put double-sided tape over the full width and most of the height of the tablet and pressed it down hard, to produce extra bonding between the keyboard case + tablet. So far its' worked fine.
Is a pity its such a bad design as basically means I'm not really converting between tablet no-case back to case as they're being taped together.
I bought an original ( Amork ) case. It lasted 5 months and stopped working, seems the quality of these cases is suspect.
It can't be repaired and only had a 3 months warrenty ( Malaysia ) so I can't recommend it even though it seems to be a premier device.
So I've been using this Zenscreen Touch w/ my S9+ and thought I'd share what my "ninja setup" looks like (when I need to do remote admin work but don't want to drag my super expensive laptop around). Beware if you're trying to duplicate for yourself, as there are other portable monitors that don't have a built-in batteries
Now - S20 Ultra -> ASUS Zenscreen Touch 15.6" portable laptop -> 6 inch USB-C to USB-C cable & Jelly Comb folding USB Keyboard w/ Trackpad
Also sometimes bring the 8BitDo Gamepad and MS Arc Touch mouse in the other pic. I like that the MS Arc mouse folds flat for transport and storage, but usually the trackpad on the Jelly Comb keyboard is enough. I know you can use the phone's screen for a touchpad, but the one on the keyboard is more natural.
There's also 2 products I know of that do the laptop case w/o guts trick - NexDock which is a 13" screen and Phonebook which is a 15" screen and my preference. NexDocks i understand have shipped in January, but Phonebooks have had issues w/ Dex and delivery affected by Coronavirus labor restrictions in Asia.
I have the Nexdock Touch. It works well with Samsung Note 10 and 20. The reviews are accurate about the touchpad is the weakest point. It's mainly when you touch your palm while typing, the mouse jumps. You can disable the touchpad. I use the touch screen mostly. I did get a portable mouse that I keep with the Nexdock for longer sessions while I may be doing more typing.
The only quirk, per se, but it's a limitation of the technology, is you have to use a cord to connect the phone to the Nexdock. This can be awkward for where to place the phone. The previous version of the Nexdock had larger bezels, so could use some of the monitor phone holders. It's possible to use Bluetooth like some of the smartwatches use to connect to smartphones, but I do not believe it has the bandwidth for transferring the video and controls--mouse/touch and keyboard. I'm sure it will get there is some point.
I cannot comment on the Nexdock 360. The reviews have been similar to the Nexdock Touch with some minor tweaks. For the Samsung phones, the Nexdocks are not compatible with the S-pen. Would be interesting to see if compatible with a Bluetooth stylus.
My plan was to use the NexDock as a laptop for school so I didn't have to carry a more expensive laptop around. Unfortunately, COVID hit, and everything went online. I have used it when traveling. It also servers a nice small monitor to connect other things such as Chromecasts, Roku boxes, game consoles, and so forth. I've seen others use it for KVM for PC builds. It is versilte device.
Wouldn't it just be easier and cheaper (you could lose/break any of these one-off components) and then you'd have to replace them to just bring the laptop?
What's the total cost for all of these customized peripherals?