Am I the only person who is bothered by the amount of lens distortion you get on the Z2?
I sold the Z1 for that reason, and just when about to take a picture of my Note 3, when I wanted to put it up for sale, it shows the Z2 has just the same amount of distortion.
I'm attaching a picture taken with the Z2. Just check out the horizontal straight lines, in the Windows box and the monitor frame. It all bulges in and outwards.
I imagine my camera isn't the only one.
Why is nobody else bothered by this? Any fix for this?
It might be an optical illusion. If there is a lens problem why the phone's line are straight? Open in a photo editor and draw a line between the top and bottom corners of the box and see if there is an illusion or not.
The fix is lightroom or Photoshop hehe
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I'm no expert in photography, but I guess it's because you took a close shot. If you take pictures from more far away this won't be an issue anymore. If I remember correctly, this is an issue related to the small optical sensor.
I don't know if all phones nowadays suffer from this, but I'm sure the HTC One M7 did.
Usually the phone corrects this using software methods.
Jackos said:
I'm no expert in photography, but I guess it's because you took a close shot. If you take pictures from more far away this won't be an issue anymore. If I remember correctly, this is an issue related to the small optical sensor.
I don't know if all phones nowadays suffer from this, but I'm sure the HTC One M7 did.
Usually the phone corrects this using software methods.
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It's definitely no optical illusion, and Photoshop is also not quite the answer, as the distortion is quite irregular. I tried applying the lens distortion filter, but it won't come out right.
Straight lines at the left and right also slant towards the middle.
Small lens problem, yes. But that Galaxy Note 3 also has a small lens, and the problem there is far less pronounced. On top of that you get the blurriness in all the Z2 pictures.
I'm really quite disappointed. I sold the Z1 shortly after getting it for the same problems, I was optimistic that Sony had sorted the problem, but sadly that is not the case.
naujoks said:
It's definitely no optical illusion, and Photoshop is also not quite the answer, as the distortion is quite irregular. I tried applying the lens distortion filter, but it won't come out right.
Straight lines at the left and right also slant towards the middle.
Small lens problem, yes. But that Galaxy Note 3 also has a small lens, and the problem there is far less pronounced. On top of that you get the blurriness in all the Z2 pictures.
I'm really quite disappointed. I sold the Z1 shortly after getting it for the same problems, I was optimistic that Sony had sorted the problem, but sadly that is not the case.
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I have this problem too when shooting video as well as taking pictures. My Z1 and Z did not have this problem. It should be something that is corrected when the shot is taken but it seems it's not. I'll contact Sony as it seems only you and I here have this problem...
Solidswede said:
I have this problem too when shooting video as well as taking pictures. My Z1 and Z did not have this problem. It should be something that is corrected when the shot is taken but it seems it's not. I'll contact Sony as it seems only you and I here have this problem...
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Mine seems ok but the corners are quite blurry which was also reported by some reviewers. Especially the left lower corner. A bit dissapointing compared to my previous phone the Galaxy S4. But I usually crop the photos anyway.
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davidcartagena said:
Mine seems ok but the corners are quite blurry which was also reported by some reviewers. Especially the left lower corner. A bit dissapointing compared to my previous phone the Galaxy S4. But I usually crop the photos anyway.
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Go here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Help/Distortion.aspx and choose "WAVE DISTORSION", check if it looks like this when you are shooting something 40-50 cm or closer... you really should see it. I have the blurry corners too. Again Z and Z1 did NOT suffer from this problem. Hope to hear back from Sony but my complaint was their first but a friend of mine has the exact same problem.
Here's my test picture I've taken.
Looks like a typical case of pin cushion distortion.
I think it's pretty bad. What should I do?
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Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
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Hello fellow Atrix users. I bought the phone recently from amazon. I have a question regarding the camera on Atrix. When i was taking the shot, I can see the dust like thing going on. However, after I took the shot, the pictures are pretty clear. The front VGA camera did this kind of thing also. Do yours act the same way?
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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100% correct. Even my $1000 DSLR with a $700 lens looks grainy when I use live view through the LCD (Which is why you almost never see any pro photographers use the LCD). Using a LCD screen (on any camera device) to see what you're shooting is more a general representation of what your aiming at than the actual outcome.
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Dust? Are you talking about the grainy effect? If that is what you are seeing, that is normal for auto-focus cameras.
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No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
http 4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-Ri8h4lUS2L8/TX2lQDpwQEI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/e-kZtLL93LQ/s1600/IMG_4077 dot JPG
But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
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No.. it is not what i was talking about. The dust like thing is like you are watching a tv and something interference with it which causes it to show a lot of small dots coming up. it is something like this picture:
http 4 dot bp dot blogspot dot com/-Ri8h4lUS2L8/TX2lQDpwQEI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/e-kZtLL93LQ/s1600/IMG_4077 dot JPG
But after i took the pictures, and the photos are sent to the gallery, the picture is pretty clean and does not have this effect.
Edit: NVM.. i see your point... That means my Atrix is not a defective one! Yeah Thanks
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No problemo
Is it fine that the front camera on the s6 edge is not center? Mine is towards the top right corner. Doesn't effect quality. Is yours centered?
It's not exactly centered but it doesn't effect picture. Should I be worried
Mine is also off center. I haven't noticed an issue with pictures.
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Mine is also off center. I haven't noticed an issue with pictures.
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You're talking about the front facing camera not the back correct?
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Is it fine that the front camera on the s6 edge is not center? Mine is towards the top right corner. Doesn't effect quality. Is yours centered?
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My current device is relatively centered. If I stare at it long enough it appears to be off center, but if I put it down and pick it up, it looks fine at a glance.
My original device's was clearly off-center, and it actually almost had part of the lens under the "skin" near the front snapper. I actually noticed the off-center camera before I noticed the flaws in the screen. If it had been further off, it would have definitely warranted a return.
So long as no part of the lens is covered, you're golden. These things go through their final paces by-hand and people don't necessarily have the coordination to perfectly position things like machines do. Whoever placed the Samsung-logoed layer on your device just didn't quite align it perfectly. It should be fine.
Do you have the white version?
My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
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My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
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Did you remove the film from the rear snapper? It might not actually be off-center at all if you're comparing it to the positioning of the protector around the lens.
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Did you remove the film from the rear snapper? It might not actually be off-center at all if you're comparing it to the positioning of the protector around the lens.
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Yup, removed both protectors over the cam and flash. It's off centered in respect to the black ring around the lens.
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Yup, removed both protectors over the cam and flash. It's off centered in respect to the black ring around the lens.
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Aww man. That's unfortunate. Well generally speaking it should be fine so long as the actual opening for the lens isn't covered in any way. It's not going to move anymore unless it wasn't sealed in properly, so it should be fine other than being one of those "annoying because you know it's there" things.
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My rear camera isn't centered. I have the 64gb Black Edge on Verizon.
I'm OCD and it bothers the hell out of me, but I didn't notice until after my 14 day return period and would have to warranty it out if I wanted a new one... Haven't noticed anything wrong with pictures or video, so I'm fine with it for now I suppose. To be honest, the only thing I'm worried about is the Optical Image Stabilizer and it going beyond the black area covering up the lens if it moves a lot.
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As long as output OK, I don't think center or not is not an issue.
I got my Moto z in June. Starting about a month ago I have these black spots on pictures. My warranty has been voided since the 3rd day of ownership due to unlocking the bootloader. The strange part is my phone is never in my pocket or anything. It's always on my desk. I don't like the phone in my pocket due to it's size.
Any ideas on how I could fix this? Wiping the camera doesn't do anything. I've also tried shaking the hell out of the phone and that doesn't do anything either.
Thanks
Did you ever drop the phone?
Those spots are really small and precise, I certainly am not sure if those are really small dust particles or damaged pixels.
The Marionette said:
Did you ever drop the phone?
Those spots are really small and precise, I certainly am not sure if those are really small dust particles or damaged pixels.
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No it's never been dropped. The problem just sort of came out of nowhere
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EDIT: Just to clarify, the picture I posted in the first post is a picture the camera took. The black dots appear in pictures taken with the rear camera (front is fine).
I got the phone back in November when it first came out. The camera was quite disappointing at the time with an oil painting effect. I'm thinking of coming back to the M10P. Have there been any improvements?
Not sure, but i think a bit improved on new firmwates, atleast no oil paintung effect on zoom like it was on previous firmwares
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Ot sure, but i think a bit improved on new firmwates, atleast no oil paintung effect on zoom like it was on previous firmwares
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I have BLA-129 (C432) and it seems that all is as before (115). There is still an oil painting effect on zoom. Maybe a little bit better. But I'm not sure.
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I have BLA-129 (C432) and it seems that all is as before (115). There is still an oil painting effect on zoom. Maybe a little bit better. But I'm not sure.
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Same is the case with me
what do you guys mean oil painting effect?
i'm having a difficult time with my camera, as any time i try to send pictures i take via mms, they always end up very pixelated. i've tried several different camera apps and text apps but they are all the same, same goes for reducing the photo resolution in camera settings. i've never had a phone with this problem. any ideas?
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what do you guys mean oil painting effect?
i'm having a difficult time with my camera, as any time i try to send pictures i take via mms, they always end up very pixelated. i've tried several different camera apps and text apps but they are all the same, same goes for reducing the photo resolution in camera settings. i've never had a phone with this problem. any ideas?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75405703&postcount=65
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75405703&postcount=65
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Thanks for this link. Seems nothing has changed in the last three months with the camera, knowing how slow Huawei are with just security patches alone, I can't see this camera being addressed any time soon.
Yes still presence of oil paint when zoomed in max. However it is only with mate 10 that this was implemented while previous Huawei phones instead had been grainy when zoomed in. People complain when grainy as well so not sure I should complain.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w3aflekki0thqhj/AABqSYnVucDo-QVQeqYJeb2Ba
Anyone have this wonderful issue? I used my note 8 in the exact manner and no issues. No case on the s9+ or anything that could cause this besides a possible hardware issue or I received a lemon. Please check out your camera's and let me know plz. I hope it's just my phone
Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Yes! Under certain angels it's unbearable. Even had to check if I left some of the film on there, nope..
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Thanks for the response. I went back outside to take more pics and I noticed the camera module was very reflective. It was like i was reflecting light with a little mirror. I grabbed my note 8 to see how that module's reflected light. At first i barely saw the reflection. Then i had to really put the phone at a major angle to get a brighter reflection. I think the camera module's aren't positioned correctly or designed correctly to avoid recieving the sun's rays in an improper way which then produces these crazy sun rays in the pics. My pics were taken mid day so the sun was kinda just past it's peak height. I took more pics later on with the sun lower and couldn't recreate the crazy flare. This is a deal breaker for me. Do you plan on keeping yours? I called Samsung and they weren't any help. They told me to return the phone and order another if I wanted.. this sucks
Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Damn. That's some crazy lens flare. I'm heading to Hawaii next week, and I'll be taking my S9+ (if it shows up on time). I hope the lens flare isn't going to ruin all my pics.
My Note 8 does it at certain angles, I just use my hand as a lens hood on the side that the sun is coming from.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicated with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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Yeah, it's bad. Just communicate with Samsung Support on Twitter and they blamed the dual aperture. Suggested I try different angles and tap to focus. Smh. Guess enough people will have to complain before they realize there's an issue.
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lol Well, if it is the dual aperture, it's a design/manufacturer flaw.
They basically just fed you the "You're holding it wrong" Apple reply, lol.
Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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Thought it was a rainbow. How did you get it to show? As none of my pics have that but it hasn't been sunny here
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It was all from the sun. I had issues with my pics no matter which way I stood.
sireniankyle said:
Yeah the 1st photo I took outside had lens flare. I'll deal. I got the phone for the stereo speakers and speed. Not the camera.
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Was the flare similar to mine?
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While it may not eliminate all of it, you do have something on the outer glass covering the lens. It needs to be cleaned with a lens pen. That's what's causing those little o shaped artifacts. Because of the tiny aperture and very wide (F 1.5), these objective element must be kept optically clean as if it were a laser optic! That's exceedingly difficult since its exposed. My suggestion is to purchase a lens pen and keep it with you if the best quality pictures are important. One can really see this at night when capturing dark scenes with bright pinpoint sources such as headlamps and streetlights, etc.
My biggest issue with camera phones (they all have it!) is the internal reflections producing ghost images. It's really apparent at events (i.e. concerts) with multiple bright points of light. Bathes the image in little blue-green dots everywhere.
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The pic with the circled artifacts was the first pic I took. The lens was clean toothe best of my knowledge. The following pics didn't have and of those artifacts pop up. Nevertheless, I'm concerned that there is a design flaw. I've owned many phones and have never had such an issue with taking pics with the sun. I was tweeting Samsung support and said the light penetrating into the lens was the reason for the terrible pics. Idk.. the phone is very new so we'll see how many do or don't come forward with this issue. All I know is the afternoon sun was just at the right height to cause the angle that the camera didn't agree with.
It's possible as with wider apertures and very bright out of frame light sources striking the periphery of the aperture you will see this. This can't be avoided even with pro gear hence the use of bulky hoods.
The idea of a two step iris, even in its rudimentary form, is a new frontier for mobile devices and this could be a glaring limitation if not annoying. Just as when driving one uses a visor or their hand, you may have to improvise and provide some shading to limit these artifacts.
Used hand as a shield
Well, took some more pics and the results are terrible. I even had it in video. I used my hand as a shield and away went the lens flare. I even rotated the phone to were the modules were on the opposite side as I normally use the phone during picture and video taking. I think that made it worse. I'm just disgusted.
Another example of me shielding the sun.
Sorry but they were flipped during the upload process.
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droidrev71 said:
Was the flare similar to mine?
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I'll just share
Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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I'll just share
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Thank you for sharing. The speakers and speed are great! I messed with the phone before it was released and thought the speakers were ok. When trying them when I recieved the phone i was very impressed. I take a ton of pics so I don't think I can tolerate this camera issue.
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Nothing yet for me, keeping my fingers crossed.
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Fingers crossed!