Consolidation of apps - Droid Ultra Original Android Development

For kicks, I tried to integrate all system app updates into the ROM. It would seem all but two work, while retaining full functionality of those that are integrated. Touchless Control and Active Display won't work, as I can see, if their updates are integrated. Some apps were faulty after integration, and needed to be uninstalled, installed from the Market, and converted to a system app...with data restored afterwards. Titanium Backup and SafeStrap RULES!!!! There is still 850Mb left in the system, so next is to drop a few 'normal' solid apps into the system. I've been advised to not integrate any launchers. Cool. It pretty much goes without saying that I do have a clean backup of the Stock system partition. I'll let things simmer first, to see whether everything can survive as a daily ROM.
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@OP
Sir, how do you found out the free space in system partition????

Titanium Backup report on its main screen.
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OH, Thanks... I have not seen this till date...

akellar said:
Your fat fingers posted this is the wrong section
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I took a stab at it...didn't seem 'general', and wasn't a 'question'.
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Einsteindks said:
I took a stab at it...didn't seem 'general', and wasn't a 'question'.
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And it's definitely not "Original Android Development" as it lacks the "development" part in addition to "original" - it's general.

Einsteindks said:
Titanium Backup report on its main screen.
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I want to inform one thing... Please don't go on add things to system (using TiBackupPro) to save Internal storage, as I think the report in start screen is either not accurate or there will be some issues if we keep on converting apps to system-apps.
In my case, TiBackup shows 1.5GB system storage FREE. I have added some 500+MB of normal apps to system. Later my phone became unstable. When I restarted it, it just bootloops...
I now have to restore stock by rsdlite. I took the risk since my MAXX's BL is unlocked. I am teling this from my experience...

kanagadeepan said:
I want to inform one thing... Please don't go on add things to system (using TiBackupPro) to save Internal storage, as I think the report in start screen is either not accurate or there will be some issues if we keep on converting apps to system-apps.
In my case, TiBackup shows 1.5GB system storage FREE. I have added some 500+MB of normal apps to system. Later my phone became unstable. When I restarted it, it just bootloops...
I now have to restore stock by rsdlite. I took the risk since my MAXX's BL is unlocked. I am teling this from my experience...
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Good to know! Yeah, it was looking like not many apps I would've trusted as predictably stable enough to trust as a system convert. Ridiculous waste of space. I don't think I'll be going back to stock. I opened up some space, that's enough. ART may be fun to check out later, hadn't any problems in stock format.
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Did a full wipe..

And boom, this baby is faster. It was weird, apps would load pretty slow, internet browsing SUCKED, general slowness and battery drain and whatnot. Now, it's SUPER fast. Everything works great, except my shortcut keys for the dock, which is weird. But even the battery last so much longer. I was able to do root again, then did voodoo rootkeeper. Then I installed titanium backup (after moving the folder off the SD card along with whatever else you want to keep) and restored the apps, but app only, not data (except for a few key ones). It seemed to work for the most part and this baby works like a charm. I had 3.2 and updated to 4.0 so maybe a wipe is something you might consider if you're TF is feeling slow, even in performance mode.
Thanks. Helpful for me because I've been considering doing the same thing after the. 19 update that's supposed to be coming. I feel like all of the past updates which were more designed for bug fixes have been putting more of a damper on the performance. With this upcoming update, it looks like they are now actually focusing on features and user experience, so I want to make sure that I don't associate those 'improvements' with lackluster behavior I've noticed since a couple updates ago.
For the first time ever, I experienced 3 random reboots in the same day a couple days ago. I hugged Optimus and told it not to worry. Everything will be okay.
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Thanks. Helpful for me because I've been considering doing the same thing after the. 19 update that's supposed to be coming. I feel like all of the past updates which were more designed for bug fixes have been putting more of a damper on the performance. With this upcoming update, it looks like they are now actually focusing on features and user experience, so I want to make sure that I don't associate those 'improvements' with lackluster behavior I've noticed since a couple updates ago.
For the first time ever, I experienced 3 random reboots in the same day a couple days ago. I hugged Optimus and told it not to worry. Everything will be okay.
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wow.... just wow
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Im sorry for asking, i am such a noob with android, i have my prime now for a few weeks, and what do you mean with a 'wipe' ?
Factory restore or?
Thanks for listening,
Severion said:
Im sorry for asking, i am such a noob with android, i have my prime now for a few weeks, and what do you mean with a 'wipe' ?
Factory restore or?
Thanks for listening,
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Pretty much. It's a factory reset. It's a real pain because you have to reinstall everything from scratch.
UNLESS you have root and a good backup utility like Titanium Backup.
Then you wipe, get root (back), install Titanium, and restore you system settings, apps, and data.
I am going to take the chance on posting this and getting flamed because people already know, if you don't know I would appreciate the thanks.
Titanium is great for keeping important data but a better and easier way to get a real fresh start after wipe is appbrain.
Do Titanium full backup
install appbrain and fast web install
sync
login to appbrain online and rename your prime list to old
wipe/factory reset
reinstall appbrain and fast web install be sure to enable fast web install
sync
log in to your appbrain account and copy the apps from old to your new device
open appbrain on device
sync
install
watch a movie while all your apps download without needing you
restore data from titanium where needed, restore programs that are not in the market
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profit
The difference here is that you don't restore any corrupted programs from Titanium
Doesn't anyone know how the built-in ASUS app backup works? Is it affected by the factory reset?
^ im curious on this also. im willing to try this.
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Doesn't anyone know how the built-in ASUS app backup works? Is it affected by the factory reset?
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I'm going to say it does, since it wipes the SD card. But if you put a microSD or regular SD you should be able to save to that instead, then restore from that after. It might be as good as Titanium, or app brain, I think part of the key is not restoring data, apps only.
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^ im curious on this also. im willing to try this.
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Works a treat. I used it. The only thing is if savedata (like levels in games) is saved on sd, you are going to loose it. But it can be always manually copied. Any other app which saves logins and such in /data (i think it's /data will be fine). And no root needed.
To OP, done it before. No difference. My TFP never been sluggish, just suffers from occasional browser freeze, well, more than occasional, and reboots when certain apps fc. Wipe didn't fix that.
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so after factory reset, i can go google play and reinstall all my old previously bought apps? or i need to pay for it again?
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so after factory reset, i can go google play and reinstall all my old previously bought apps? or i need to pay for it again?
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Lol yeah, you can re-download your apps It keeps up with everything you pay for and even with most of the free stuff you install. Easier route may be to use ASUS's App Backup or if you're rooted Titanium Backup (Pro is worth it).
After doing a full wipe at lunch i can confirm my prime seems much snappier. Also my dolphin browser works flawless finally. Asus back up did not work for me.
1SiK1500 said:
After doing a full wipe at lunch i can confirm my prime seems much snappier. Also my dolphin browser works flawless finally. Asus back up did not work for me.
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Me neither. Can anyone explain in detail how you use Asus backup? I'm almost tempted to root just for Titanium at this point
How is your prime after the fresh wipe?
Lyvewire said:
Me neither. Can anyone explain in detail how you use Asus backup? I'm almost tempted to root just for Titanium at this point
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Asus backup looks fairly simple. Just open the app, then choose the apps you want to backup. There is a check for data only or data and application near the top right. Choose data and app if you want both, but for some reason you can only do 600MB, not sure why. But if you have it under that (I unchecked all my games and got it low enough) then you can hit the backup button on the top, which then has a (Checkbox) option to also save to the microsd or SD card plugged in
ic. Very informative.
Haven't played with the SD slot on the Prime so I guess I have a reason now =)
You also have an option to save a copy to the MicroSD, card if it's mounted. I'm in the process of a wipe now and will let you know about the restore using the ASUS backup. I've used TB in the past but haven't rooted this unit yet and so can only speak to the ASUS backup.
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Asus backup looks fairly simple. Just open the app, then choose the apps you want to backup. There is a check for data only or data and application near the top right. Choose data and app if you want both, but for some reason you can only do 600MB, not sure why. But if you have it under that (I unchecked all my games and got it low enough) then you can hit the backup button on the top, which then has a (Checkbox) option to also save to the microsd or SD card plugged in
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this worked for me!!! thanks for the info
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Doesn't anyone know how the built-in ASUS app backup works? Is it affected by the factory reset?
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To be just a little more precise, the ASUS backup app creates a file in the ASUS folder that can be copied to a PC, USB drive, to the cloud, or whatever, and then copied back to the same folder when the wipe is done. Then apps and data can be selectively restored. Works well.
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To root or not root; a conversation.

Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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Honeybadger said:
Hey all,
This just a conversation to get me to finally bite the bullet and finally root and install a ROM.
With all the delays or possible cancelations of JB on my i717, I have just about convinced myself to root and installation a rom. Avatar is looking good.
I have been using the go launcher and all its sub systems: phone, IM, twitter all the stuff so I need to figure out to remove all the go replace sub components. Is there a panel on one of the releases that makes this easy?
So do yous guys still think the i717 will still get an official 717 update?
Also, if looks like jb will remove the ability to move apps to the sd. At lease it did on my note 10.1. Think they will do the same if they release jb on the 717?
I read through all the fans and understand backup the IMs, data, contacts. What about apps (I have a ton and chagrin having reinstall
So first root, use titanium backup and then install a ROM? Also what is a modem? Usually I am familiar with the term as in phone interface. What is modem rom for?
Thoughts and answers welcome!
Thanks for everyone time.
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+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
440bro said:
+1 vote for root!
I bet the original note gets a JB update. But I also bet the Note 3 will be out by then and Note 2 people will be begging for their key lime pie!!!
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort. So why wait... root it! It unlocks SO much potential in these phones. I've been flashing roms for years and love it! I've never had any problems because I've always done a lil research on software out there and followed the directions to a TEE! Since you're new at this I will direct you to this thread. Read the first 3 posts. They will answer 90% of your questions, especially post 3. Once your schooled and brain has cooled a lil, this is basically what you gotta do to get started.
So happy reading and rooting!
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Thanks very much for the opinion, advice and experience!
Reading now.
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For the remaining 10% off your questions not found in those threads or searching, feel free to ask!
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
440bro said:
It doesn't matter what phone your on, your always going to be waiting for an update of some sort.
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That's true except for one product line.
NEXUS DEVICES
Even the nexus s, that was released with the debut of GINGERBREAD is officially supported by Google with a 4.2.2 firmware of its own.
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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What about being to move apps to sd?
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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Once rooted you will have the ability to move apps to sd card using a separate app.
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^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
rangercaptain said:
You don't need root permission to flash a recovery, a custom rom, or a different modem.
But with regards to rooting, its not like you're climbing Mt. Everest naked without oxygen. Its a two minute project.
And you only need to root if there is some app or some system action you need to do that having a stock system won't allow.
If you're undecided, then you don't need to do it. Those that need to just do it.
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Maybe it isn't climbing Everest, but I do rely on my phone and in turn I need it reliable. Lockups and waiting for reboots is a worry.
I need apps to work at least 95 percent of the time. I understand and occasionally sunspot caused glitch is acceptable but should be occasional. So yes, I do worry about my constant companion.
I am not just talking about rooting but finding the right ROM which will make my phone more usable and more reliable than the At&t stock rom, just trying to find the right one and install it right the first time.
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PrincessKiwi said:
^that
and also you can remove applications placed by the phone company that sometimes only eat some of the battery, even if you never even open them!
You can remove ad banners off the browser as well! saving data if you are not on unlimited plan(like myself)
hmm.. personally i root because of that reason, the ad blocking on the browser(i don't mind them on the apps unless they're sketching apps)
2nd reason would be being able to use the app named "autostarts" which controls the autorun's of any app on your phone! Wisely used, you can stop user apps from restarting themselves and such, just never use on system apps and that means more ram and more battery
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Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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Honeybadger said:
Your advice, wisdom and time are heeded and appreciated!
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the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
PrincessKiwi said:
the best part is it is very easy to do! even a silly girl like me could root and do all this "mt everest" stuff ehehe its very simple!
and really nothing bad will happen to your phone and i assume you take good care of it :highfive:
i dont evne mind those warrantys things, i take care of my androids as i would a pet or something
and make sure they come in good state and all when out of the box
when i had my first android some years ago i softbricked it and cried! on my first attempt.. because i skipped one step(NEVER SKIP A STEP) but then i saw there's solution to everything.. unless it exploded or something but that never happens yay :victory:
and now i feel these things are useless without root permissions.. it's the first thing i do the moment i get them and come back home! :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience!
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
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How do make apps store data on the ext card while keeping those apps internal?
rangercaptain said:
You don't need a rooted phone to install roms. Just a PC, cable, and Odin software.
What you could possibly need is to install a custom recovery like TWRP. That is WAY more important that worrying about rooting your phone. Why? Because you could install roms from your phone and skip the PC. All non-stock roms are already rooted.
You have 16gigs of internal memory for apps - thats like about 200 apps, so you don't need to move them to external sd card.
What you should do is make sure all those apps store their data on the external card. Then you have protected your data and kept your memory for apps.
What app/process you you need to do that requires root permission of your file system? Every concern you mentioned has nothing to do with root permisions of your file system.
Maybe your question should be "Why should I flash non-stock roms over the stock Gingerbread I have now? A Conversation"
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And my answer is use the latest N7005 ICS ROM because it is rooted, has no carrier apps installed and is fast and smooth, and since it is stock, everything functions correctly.
If you want dependable, don't go past 4.04 ICS ROMs, because above that, the ROMs come from other phones and developers have to squeeze them into our phone. The result is random reboots, freezing, main features not working (TV out, s-pen, Bluetooth connectivity issues, to name a few main ones).
Everyone else is going to argue to defend their reason for what they did to their phone -- I answered based on your stated needs.
Good luck, I hope you get your phone to a place you're satisfied with.
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Thanks for the advice, one of the reasons I am looking at upgrading is I also want google now which only cones with jb.
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That's a good reason. But our JB ROMs are the result of great effort and professionalism from our developers, but they are experimental and have issues. So to gain some features, you will definitely lose some.
I have been using 4.1.# then 4.2.2 and I think I'm going back to the N7005 ROM because I miss the features I bought the phone for. Anyway, as someone said, read and decide what the tradeoffs are, and you can always go backwards.
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Honeybadger said:
Ok, decided to go with Kangparanoid rom... Right now I have a stock unrooted ROM. What is the best way to create a perfect backup of what I have now to restore current state.
Also is there an easy way to restore all my apps (include what's been moved to my external sd card) post jb upgrade?
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Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
440bro said:
Nice rom choice! I'm actually using it right now!!
I vote for titanium backup to backup all your stuff. I use the pro version so I can't remember if you can move apps to sd card in the free version or not. Once you open titanium you have it backup EVERYTHING! It will backup your apps, call logs, text messages, wifi passwords, bookmarks, alarms, etc..... Do this on your phone now. Then root your phone and make a nandroid backup in recovery. Install your rom and sign into your phone using the same gmail acct you had previously. You'll find that most of your apps will begin to reinstall themselves. Once you got titanium on your new rom installed open it but do not, I repeat do NOT restore everything! Titanium backs up system files that shouldn't be restored because they were from your previous rom. Just click individual apps that you want to restore. Titanium color codes everything nicely. System files are red and mean business! Apps installed already are white. Your call logs and messages will be yellow. Those you can restore. Backed up apps not installed will have a line thru them. I've been using titanium for years since android 1.5 came out. So it works on any rom!
Happy rooting and flashing!
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Thank you Thank you! I have had titanium backup for year but only on an old tablet that I can't do anything with anymore. It's rooted but no roms available for it.
Thought I would have to root the phone before I could back it up, but will follow you plan.
Thanks again!
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[Q] Freeze, Disable, or Delete apps?

Just got root and want to rid myself of bloatware, however, lots or random comments about how best to accomplish this. For many it seems to come down to gaining access to more space (favoring delete) vs ability to restore should there be an issue later (favoring freeze). Not sure where disable comes in between them.
Thoughts? Benefits of one over the other?
Lastly, if I install Hyperdrive does all the above become moot if it disappears?
Nothing?
If you have the knowledge and ability to fix your phone if things go sour then delete. If not, freeze.
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^^ This
wedmiston said:
Just got root and want to rid myself of bloatware, however, lots or random comments about how best to accomplish this. For many it seems to come down to gaining access to more space (favoring delete) vs ability to restore should there be an issue later (favoring freeze). Not sure where disable comes in between them.
Thoughts? Benefits of one over the other?
Lastly, if I install Hyperdrive does all the above become moot if it disappears?
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The space you gain is pretty minimal actually, but if you are the type of person who has tons of apps then perhaps that little bit will matter. I have all my bloat frozen and still have plenty of space left on internal memory, but then again I'm not the type of person with hundreds of apps. I'm pretty sure if you just Odin the stock image back to your phone all the bloat will be back, so it's not really the end of the line deleting it. It's really just up to you as to what's more convenient.
Good points Craw...I have maybe 60-70 apps and I'm not a big collector beyond that...too much and I can't even remember what they all do. I think I'll freeze for now per your suggestion. I have Titanium backup Pro - is that the best tool for it?
Crawshayi said:
The space you gain is pretty minimal actually, but if you are the type of person who has tons of apps then perhaps that little bit will matter. I have all my bloat frozen and still have plenty of space left on internal memory, but then again I'm not the type of person with hundreds of apps. I'm pretty sure if you just Odin the stock image back to your phone all the bloat will be back, so it's not really the end of the line deleting it. It's really just up to you as to what's more convenient.
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I have over 400 apps, plenty of room left. Bloat ware is too small to be called bloat. Call them 'unused' ware. (Some of my 400 are probably in that group)
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wedmiston said:
Good points Craw...I have maybe 60-70 apps and I'm not a big collector beyond that...too much and I can't even remember what they all do. I think I'll freeze for now per your suggestion. I have Titanium backup Pro - is that the best tool for it?
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Yeah I've been using Titanium backup for years with no problems. It's the best. Here is a list I found of bloatware that's safe to freeze, so this should help start you off: http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/287988-verizon-bloatware.html
of course if i go with a custom ROM bloatware won't be ann issue, right?
is it correct that right now, the only recovery i can have with ME7 is safestrap? I tried CWM or Teamwin and got stuck on a "downloading - do not turn off traget" message, so I installed Safestrap over it and it appears to have gone fine
is it also true that I cannot install CM 10.1.X with safestrap, requiring me to go with something like Hyperdrive?
Crawshayi said:
Yeah I've been using Titanium backup for years with no problems. It's the best. Here is a list I found of bloatware that's safe to freeze, so this should help start you off: http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/287988-verizon-bloatware.html
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Their is a list of compatible roms around here someplace. Hyperdrive is one of them. I have been using Hyperdrive version 9.1 with safestrap and its been running flawless for me. I did get a low disk space warning once but clearing cache fixed it and Its not been back since
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Greenify is another option if you don't want to freeze apps. Greenify can put the app in hibernation so its not running in the background, but unlike titanium you can still use the app. Just another option.
Delete apps that ur never going to use(system apps) freeze apps that ur going to use very rarely but u need it. Or just tweak ur build.prop for background processes

HAM2 - What Bloatware needs to go?

What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
GT1873 said:
What bloatware should I look to remove from my HAM2? Are there any Huawei specific apps that i can ditch? Thanks.
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I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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pucherto123 said:
Do I back up the apps using titanium back up?
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Titanium Backup would work. Or App Master. Or manually back them up using ES File Explorer. As long as you have a backup that's all that matters. You'll need these system app backups for when the next update comes out (unless that update wipes everything out).
Delete Facebook
arcadesdude said:
I've removed these 7. Keep backups of them in case you want to update your system. The official update from Huawei checked for and patched these system apps. If they weren't found the update would fail. Restoring the apps fixed that problem.
Text list if you can't see the pictures:
Weather (HwWeatherClock.apk)
Twitter (Twitter.apk)
Navigate (ROUTE66.apk)
MOCALite 1.0.9 (HwMOCALite.apk)
Me Widget (HwMeWidget_MT2-L03.apk)
Get Asphalt 8 (GetAsphalt8_PGA1_HuaweiMate2_OpenMarket_v100.apk)
Facebook (Facebook.apk)
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Where can I find the Facebook app to delete it? I've gotten everything else. Thanks.
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
TBH, compared to many phones, this list is very minimal.
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
acejavelin said:
Honestly, I don't see a reason to remove any of these apps... they are in the system folders so you won't gain any space or anything, just disable them and you won't see them and any updates will still work fine without doing anything special.
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This sounds like very good advice. Thanks acejavelin. I never really thought about it but since the apps are in a non-usable (for the user) partition, your recommendation makes perfect sense. I already pushed your Thanks button.
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tomlogan1 said:
I guess I just want more control. That's one of the reasons I choose to root my devices. It's OK to stay completely the way the phone comes, regardless of how much or little bloatware is on the device. It is up to the user to choose. That is one of the many reasons Why Android is so popular.
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Control of what? You don't get any control because the apps are in a separate partition that you can't use. In fact, you lose some control because when you delete the apps you can't get OTA.
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
lucasho2312 said:
Just freeze them so they can't run. There's no point deleting them. 7 seems trivial though. I froze more than 50 on mine. There's nothing from Huawei on my phone except the camera app.
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I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
SHM said:
I normally back them up so I can delete and save space. Should I need them later on it's simple to restore. But freezing them is a good method since it will let you know if it shall cause issues later on.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself). I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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Comment above has pointed out that you don't gain space by deleting system apps. Or rather, you gain unusable space.
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One, you do gain space, two, that space is usable. An average user wouldn't seem to know how to take advantage of this it seems. But to me, I make use of it everyday. - @acejavelin
If you do prefer delete/restore, remember to back up the data (tweak TiBu to backup full data cuz it will ignore data if data is larger than the apk itself).
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I don't use TiBu. Never really cared for it. I use other methods more command-line based within the terminal emulator.
I had problems with Dialer/Phone and System UI apps without original data. Navigation bar will be lost (it is there but it can't be touched/controlled) and incoming calls cause crash.
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This is why it's good to know what to delete and not delete. If familiar with your device then it becomes second nature, but when jumping ship and getting a new device it is typically best to freeze and see the results. Although freezing is no different than saving and deleting. Only thing that distinguishes these two methods is when you freeze the system app, it's still there (and yes, using space). Where as when you keep it safe, say, your sdcard, then it's as simple as placing back, and/or if the particular file causes the device to go bonkers then TWRP makes it possible to fix the problem as well.

Question Found issue with touch screen

I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
It should not be the case.
Backup data, factory reset the phone, restore data without restoring apps and settings and then check. It's time consuming but is a great way to start with a brand new phone.
Is this issue only on chrome? Or in other apps too?
Virgo_Guy said:
It should not be the case.
Backup data, factory reset the phone, restore data without restoring apps and settings and then check. It's time consuming but is a great way to start with a brand new phone.
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Yeah, don't use SmartSwitch. Do a clean load from scratch. If you don't screw it up with upgrades/updates or buggy apps a good load can last years on an Android and remain fast/stable with minimal maintenance.
ApkExport can be used to create installable copies of your current apps so no Playstore is needed. Saves time and sanity.
blackhawk said:
Yeah, don't use SmartSwitch. Do a clean load from scratch. If you don't screw it up with upgrades/updates or buggy apps a good load can last years on an Android and remain fast/stable with minimal maintenance.
ApkExport can be used to create installable copies of your current apps so no Playstore is needed. Saves time and sanity.
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What is the best app(not paid) for copying everything from phone to phone?
theboz1419 said:
I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
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have you tried other browsers? (try firefox or kiwi) or diferent websites? For example, i tried Hugoboss website and they have alot of issues using it.
xwonic said:
What is the best app(not paid) for copying everything from phone to phone?
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I hand load everything. I use the SD card as a data drive; everything I need for a full reload is on it, then regularly and redundantly backed it up.
Current load on this N10+ will be 3 yo in June. Still runs like a bat out of hell.
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I hand load everything.
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This.
xwonic said:
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adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
theboz1419 said:
I just recieved the phone and transferred all from my S22U.
While browsing in Chrome I noticed that the back button on the lower right corner doesn't register touches sometimes. I have to touch the back button multiple times until it works.
Anybody else having issues with touch?
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Same here on Telegram app, on the left corner top, back button.
Mr.5g said:
Same here on Telegram app, on the left corner top, back button.
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I have this one too... (but not in Chrome app).
And i have installed Telegram after I had my 23U
It seems it's really the app...
Canard caché said:
I have this one too... (but not in Chrome app).
And i have installed Telegram after I had my 23U
It seems it's really the app...
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I guess that too
EtherealRemnant said:
adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
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Could copying everything manually what's inside the folders, cause problems in terms of cache and so on? Do these folders contain cache?
EtherealRemnant said:
adb pull /sdcard
delete Android folder and copy over everything manually to the internal storage on the folder (adb push won't push subfolders)
Set up everything else from absolute scratch.
It's annoying but this is the only way to make sure you're starting with a clean slate and that your bugs aren't caused by something from your old phone. Spending an hour or two now can save you tens of hours down the line in troubleshooting nonsense nobody else seems to be suffering from and coming to the conclusion you have to factory reset anyway.
It's a good time to clean up apps you may not use much anymore too as you'll have to install your apps manually. I usually end up losing 10-20% of the apps I had on my old phone because I realize I don't really use them.
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Where do I get the ADB pull/SD card??
Darbar1701 said:
Where do I get the ADB pull/SD card??
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Not really sure what you mean but this video may be good explanation how to do
mozdem said:
Could copying everything manually what's inside the folders, cause problems in terms of cache and so on? Do these folders contain cache?
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Yes. The whole reason to do a clean load is to ensure the integrity of the load and to not reload the previous problems or malware. Letting the apps install clean is important.
I only restore data to trusted apps that allow backup and are difficult to setup from scratch... like Poweramp.
If you fail... you will live with the issues it caused until you factory reset it, again, in the worst case scenario. It's good to go through installing all the apps and configuring them at a reload as it allows you to spot previous mistakes and raises your level of awareness.
blackhawk said:
Yes. The whole reason to do a clean load is to ensure the integrity of the load and to not reload the previous problems or malware. Letting the apps install clean is important.
I only restore data to trusted apps that allow backup and are difficult to setup from scratch... like Poweramp.
If you fail... you will live with the issues it caused until you factory reset it, again, in the worst case scenario. It's good to go through installing all the apps and configuring them at a reload as it allows you to spot previous mistakes and raises your level of awareness.
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Yea I get it, like you should only backup the folders/appdata from apps you know it won't cause problems. Otherwise clean installing best option.
Today I also found out that some websites in Firefox, also have this problem in top left corner not responding. I guess it's software related, because same websites had no issues on Chrome.
Mr.5g said:
Today I also found out that some websites in Firefox, also have this problem in top left corner not responding. I guess it's software related, because same websites had no issues on Chrome.
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mmm the touch screen's response is perhaps too high???
Canard caché said:
mmm the touch screen's response is perhaps too high???
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It has reported to samsung, perhaps next update will be fixed

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