Hey guys, I recently got the xperia Z2 over the HTC One M8 to test out before I commit to buying it and having looked on XDA, I can't help but get feeling his phone won't have a great ammount of ROM support from most developers, at least not for a while. Am I wrong in thinking so? I also read somewhere that rooting or unlocking triggers some DRM stuff and things like x-reality stop working. Is this true? If so, what's the point? I though Sony was trying to be more developer friendly? If anyone could answer some of these questions I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm not asking for an ETA on ROMs just that I don't see a massive Sony market in the US and so I feel like it will be lacking in terms of choice. If that is the case and especially if i cannot convert to a GPE equvialent or something then at this point would the HTC one M8 be a better choice?
I also got the Z2 because i liked the phone way better then S5 and M8 but am also worried about developer support. I also got Z which now has quit some support but still not as much as i was used to have on my HTC's.
Phone had a lot of dificulties at launch, late release and stuff, its not even worldwide available yet, but yeah, development wont be as active as s5 or m8, but i prefer quality over quantity, so what if s5 has 10 exactly same roms with different name, you will get all major roms since its one of the currently big 3 phones.
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Hey guys, I recently got the xperia Z2 over the HTC One M8 to test out before I commit to buying it and having looked on XDA, I can't help but get feeling his phone won't have a great ammount of ROM support from most developers, at least not for a while. Am I wrong in thinking so? I also read somewhere that rooting or unlocking triggers some DRM stuff and things like x-reality stop working. Is this true? If so, what's the point? I though Sony was trying to be more developer friendly? If anyone could answer some of these questions I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm not asking for an ETA on ROMs just that I don't see a massive Sony market in the US and so I feel like it will be lacking in terms of choice. If that is the case and especially if i cannot convert to a GPE equvialent or something then at this point would the HTC one M8 be a better choice?
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You're wrong, I will soon build a rom for the Xperia Z2
Yeah exactly. I am more worried about the DRM stuff and the fact that I do like stock android so I may want to convert to GPE; in your opinion, is the ROM scene for the M8 worth swapping this phone for?
Thanks niaboc! but do you truthfully think I should wait and do you think there will be a good enough amount of mods etc? Also what about the DRM stuff?
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You're wrong, I will soon build a rom for the Xperia Z2
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This is great news! I've been missing your Existenz Roms from my Z! :laugh:
No argument there, the phone did have launch issues definitely. I understand your quality over quantity issue but 3 ROMs I need without fail are PA, Slimkat and a Google play edition; especially the GPE. Do you think that will happen truthfully? On the M8 it already has and its a matter of flashing it now really. I feel like if I choose the Z2 and wait and the experience isn't good then I may be disappointed quite a lot no matter how great the phone is and I'm worried about that seeing as it is an expensive investment!
Drm seems to be a problem of past. I unlocked bootloader, lost drm keys, and only thing i lost is music and video unlimitted service, which i wasnt using anyways. Its your choice, we cannot see future and tell how many roms gonna be here compared to m8, but im sure its gonna be plenty for my needs. I bought z2 and m8, and they both are briliant, but as you can see im using z2 now, while my father got m8. Only real advantage in m8 for me was feeling you get holding it, that shape is amazingly comfortable.
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Yeah exactly. I am more worried about the DRM stuff and the fact that I do like stock android so I may want to convert to GPE; in your opinion, is the ROM scene for the M8 worth swapping this phone for?
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I am choosing a phone for his design and hardware...
What's the point to have 300 roms who are nearly identicals.
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Hmm. You make a good point and I will definitely take that into account. Others are reporting loss of x-reality and features like that which I don't want to be restricted on if I root and unlock my boot loader. As for the M8 you're right it does have an incredible body but the Z2 in white looks so amazing!
Fair enough! I have this phone till the 26th so if it looks good by then, I may keep it! The DRM stuff, I dunno I'll have to deal with it I guess! Thanks!
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Hi guys im planning to buy this phone, but does it has an unlocked bootloader? How good is developer support for this cellphone?
the bootloader is locked and with that you cannot load a fully working custom kernel thus there are not many dev involved.
Hope something improves in future...
Until then I statisfy my rom flashing sickness with my HD2
Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I would buy this. The Xperia play was not tat great in my opinion.
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Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I recommend you the razr. Its a good phone overall especially the build quality.
No match with the play unless you are a heavy gamer.
I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
Of course we can use custom kernels. Just a short time remaining until the new kernel source will be released, then kexec will work with both cores and fully working custom roms will become available.
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I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
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Hi, Xperia people. You probably don't know me, but in the future I might be getting an Xperia U, and looking forward to it!
I couldn't find a XPU Q&A sub-forum, so I decided to post here. You're probably wondering why won't I get an Xperia S, or P? That's because my dad said I could pick a phone, up to £200, and he might get it for me, as a present for getting good grades.
Reading my own post, I probably sound like some stupid trolling, spamming kid who doesn't know a thing about Android, or programming, etc...
Well, I previously owned a HTC Wildfire S, until it got stolen. I do know about bootloader unlocking, rooting, fastboot, specs (CPU, RAM, etc.), Linux, Bootloaders, prgramming (I don't know any programming languages, but I know a bit about them, and I only know the tiniest bit of Java in the world that won't help anyone). I like making ROMS, and flashing them.
So I just wanted to know some basic stuff about the XPU. For example, as soon as I get it, play around with it for a bit, then should I unlock the bootloader, and start flashing some new ROMS (like ICS and stuff), or do I need to do some stuff before that. I want to try lots of ROMS (and I want to make one too. I made a stock like basic HTC ROM once.) I also want to know how to boot into the bootloader, and stuff. I know this all probably has been asked before, but if I get a good enough amount of answers, I might consider transforming the thread into a Noob Guide.
If you own an XPU, can you post links to some good ROMS, ICS, stuff like that. Thanks!!!!
My missus has an Xperia U and it's a fine phone. For the <£200 price, it's unbeatable IMHO. Sure there are compromises, but they are in the right areas, not the wrong ones. Sony got it perfect for that price.:good:
I probably won't be getting it now. I've done more research, and there's a lack of development, so I don't think I want to get it.
get it now!
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get it now!
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Indeed, you don't get alot for a £200 budget, certainly not ICS update, dual core, unlockable bootloader and the U's build quality....
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I probably won't be getting it now. I've done more research, and there's a lack of development, so I don't think I want to get it.
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there is lack of development indeed, but only because xperia U is using a relatively new chipset. once the devs gotten familiar with it I think development will roll in nicely
Actually I've got my XPU for about 3 weeks, it worked fine for me and no problem was faced.
I'm proud that I can get a such brilliant smartphone with a very reasonable price and the chance for eating ICS:laugh:
Yeah, well it is a good phone. But I can't take my chances and waste money. Even if there is more development, it might not be that much. DoomLord said himself that he might not do any development for XPU as he's already busy with the other XPs and he can barely keep up doing that. Believe me, I'd like to make ROMS myself (I made one for personal use, then distributed it), but I don't think I can just buy a phone to do that, and there aren't many development resources to do that. Also, this sub-forum is kind of "claustrophobic" because it's most of the XP devices together, and it's kinda messy, for me. Sorry guys, I'd like to become part of your community, but I don't think I can. I might just get a Desire HD, if I can, because I know a lot about HTC devices, it's got S-OFF, and plenty of development. It's already got ICS (was in the second page of Portal).
Anyway, thanks for the encouragement.
Please join me in this great cause for further development of of our beloved BEAST! Everyone knows there's a need for better development for this overlooked and underrated device.
DooMLoRD, as you know, is a senior member and one of THE TOP XPERIA Developers so wouldn't it be a great idea since the Sony Xperia Ultra GPe Edition has been discounted by $200 to get ONE in his hands? Since the price is $449.00 let's all get together to chip in and send him one.
He's halfway there and I'll donate the fastest shipping possible to get it to him if we achieve the remaining $250 or so (there should be taxes added to the total) just so we could have his Kernels, Mods, Fixes or whatever!
Everyone knows how hard it is to develop for a device you don't even have in your hands. But DooMLoRD does this time and again - I know this for a fact. Let's give him what he needs for the good of ALL of us who use these forums.
Won't you join in this effort to help this great well known developer who is also a WONDERFUL GUY - let's get this device in his hands as fast as possible! Take a moment and just read through some of these posts and you'll see he's presenting incredible work without thus device in his hands. How cool of him to do that!
So the goal is $250 in addition to the taxes. Anyone can P.M. me with any thoughts, suggestions, questions, or even complaints for that matter. You can contact DooMLoRD or go to his XDA page to find out how to donate to him.
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LordManhattan your point is well taken as I'm sure you know better than I. But by having the Xperia Z Ultra or the Z Ultra GPe he can still help us all one way or another. I think that's already been proven.
Just sayin'...
Could a Mod please move this to the Sony Xperia Z Ultra Development Forum. I'm sorry I made a boo boo!
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I agree. I don't have the GPe version, but I've waited for a GPe+Sony compatibility for ages. Why isn't it happening?! The GPe Ultra got released back in December (?) and it's still completely dead.
Sure, the Ultra is a niche device and the Ultra GPe is even more niche, so that's understandable, but we have some great devs around here including some promising kernel devs too, so I guess those two together could solve it? Or? That's the only barrier left around here. Do you guys know what the Galaxy S4 (bootloader) bounty is? It's over $4,000! Do you know how high the ROOT bounty, yes ROOT bounty for the S5 is? Over $10,000! Moto X? $1200.
We are ****ing lucky if I dare say. OP, I understand what you're trying to do and we do have a lot of custom ROMs around here, but people with the Xperia version are pretty happy right now, BUT our last venture is the GPe. If we can get a Sony ROM over to an Xperia phone, then we'll be done. We'll actually be done, while other people on Samsung and what not will be crying.
Point: We're incredible lucky. We'll want Android 4.5/5 in june/july (after I/O). What do we do when the time comes? Wait a couple of weeks. We'll get the GPe version to back us up! All we need is one single dev that knows his **** and completes it.
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We are ****ing lucky if I dare say. OP, I understand what you're trying to do and we do have a lot of custom ROMs around here, but people with the Xperia version are pretty happy right now, BUT our last venture is the GPe. If we can get a Sony ROM over to an Xperia phone, then we'll be done. We'll actually be done, while other people on Samsung and what not will be crying.
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At OP: At the moment we can easily port @DooMLoRD's work but it would be nice for him to support our device
@LordManhattan If the script I have just been working on works for Custom ROMs I dont think it will be too much to get custom Sony ROMs working on the GPe
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At OP: At the moment we can easily port @DooMLoRD's work but it would be nice for him to support our device
@LordManhattan If the script I have just been working on works for Custom ROMs I dont think it will be too much to get custom Sony ROMs working on the GPe
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I, and probably some other people might love you if you get this working, and shower you in blue cod and grey mullet!
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LordManhattan said:
I, and probably some other people might love you if you get this working, and shower you in blue cod and grey mullet!
Sent from my Z Ultra
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/me looks over at the fishtank in the corner and wonders how you will get my grey mullet from there to the shower
Way OT
From when they were tiny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EljAZnC7taY
Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Flashing a FTF seems to brick the GPe. If I remember right they has slightly different partition layout or was it bootloader?
blueether said:
Flashing a FTF seems to brick the GPe. If I remember right they has slightly different partition layout or was it bootloader?
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You flash only system & kernel partitions
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DooMLoRD said:
You flash only system & kernel partitions
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Dat be tru
if you flash a non _gpe ROM to the GPe some users have reported that it wont boot, doing it the other way around, the only way I can test, it will boot but baseband is missing. The GPe seems to chuck *everything* into /system/etc/firmware/ where the ZU doesn't. The GPe also includes the same blobs as the ZU as well.
I have a update.zip that should get the radio working if a GPe user wants to test it out (see separate thread if you do). If it doesn't want to boot then it will need a little more work...
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Dat be tru
if you flash a non _gpe ROM to the GPe some users have reported that it wont boot, doing it the other way around, the only way I can test, it will boot but baseband is missing. The GPe seems to chuck *everything* into /system/etc/firmware/ where the ZU doesn't. The GPe also includes the same blobs as the ZU as well.
I have a update.zip that should get the radio working if a GPe user wants to test it out (see separate thread if you do). If it doesn't want to boot then it will need a little more work...
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all new sony handset variant need different basebands..
just create a update.zip with all the files from /system/etc/firmware from original ZU GPe KitKat and flash it over the ZU Sony firmware system
device will easily boot
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all new sony handset variant need different basebands..
just create a update.zip with all the files from /system/etc/firmware from original ZU GPe KitKat and flash it over the ZU Sony firmware system
device will easily boot
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that is what I've done, just no GPe owners have piped up yet that they want to test it. I was hoping that the same method would work for stock Sony as well. Just create a zip like I have done in the past and include the firmware dir from the GPe dump.
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Hey guys I am interested I'm developing for either of these devices... If you think GPe needs more attention then so be it...
Btw whats the issue with flashing sony ftf on GPe? It should work! What issue are you facing...
Remember I got GPe rom ported over to ZU normal and Z1 so I know a thing or two
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Just got mine today, but will get the urge to flash stuff before long.
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adfurgerson said:
Just got mine today, but will get the urge to flash stuff before long.
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thanks for your kind donation of 40 USD!
i request you to please hold on before sending donations!
lets first be sure that there are adequate users who are pledging (ready to donate)... once we reach target only then start sending in donations! i dont want you guys to feel cheated incase there arent enough pledges and target is not reached!
regards,
DooMLoRD
DooMLoRD said:
thanks for your kind donation of 40 USD!
i request you to please hold on before sending donations!
lets first be sure that there are adequate users who are pledging (ready to donate)... once we reach target only then start sending in donations! i dont want you guys to feel cheated incase there arent enough pledges and target is not reached!
regards,
DooMLoRD
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If you fall short just use it as you see fit. I benefited from all your work back when I had an X10.
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If you fall short just use it as you see fit. I benefited from all your work back when I had an X10.
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glad to see old x10 users
ALL Questions Should Finally Be Put To Rest
For the record, as many of you now know, DooMLoRD is THE Lord for a damn good reason. Check out his Xperia Download page (http://doomlord.xperia-files.com) and see for yourselves he's already proven just how capable of a developer he already is. Plus since Sony has matched Google' pricing either device could easily be in his hands by the end of this month. C'mon people we've all used his work at some point since the X10 and he clearly stated he'd ..."be interested I'm developing for either of these devices!.
How hard could it be to muster up another 14 members (minimum) to donate at least $20? In the end we'd be GUARANTEED a Bona fide Z Ultra Developer who would instantly improve development for our devices. Something that has been lacking since it's release.
Thank you ADFURGERSON for stepping up to the plate and donating!
I pledge 20 minimum more if needed Ieft note 3 for this device I crave development!!
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Bump 4 my Bro DooMLoRD!
Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?
Imo phone is solid out of the box. I have a 6p to mess around with.
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What "development" do you expect? With Xposed and a plethora of modules, there really is no need for specialized custom ROMs. All you need is a rock-solid base and off you go. You can even theme everything in the phone with the LG Apps Theme Engine.
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What "development" do you expect? With Xposed and a plethora of modules, there really is no need for specialized custom ROMs. All you need is a rock-solid base and off you go. You can even theme everything in the phone with the LG Apps Theme Engine.
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Cyanogenmod to start. Tbh I hate that response. That isn't helpful. It isn't just the V10. I have a GS6E+ as well. There is nothing on that front. I
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Cyanogenmod to start. Tbh I hate that response. That isn't helpful. It isn't just the V10. I have a GS6E+ as well. There is nothing on that front. I
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Then go ask the Cyanogen devs to support the V10. Complaining here accomplishes exactly nothing.
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Then go ask the Cyanogen devs to support the V10. Complaining here accomplishes exactly nothing.
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"Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?"
Where in that is exactly ... "complaining"? I asked a legitimate question. Seems that you are complaining about the question I asked.
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"Hey guys, legitimate question here. It seems that there is no development being done for this and other of the 2015 flagships. Am I missing something?"
Where in that is exactly ... "complaining"? I asked a legitimate question. Seems that you are complaining about the question I asked.
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I used hyperbole. The fact remains that reaching out to devs directly will have far more effect than posting threads here.
It's not like they'll magically swoop in here and say "Oh guys, so sorry we haven't made anything for your phone yet, we'll get right on it!"
If you want to see action, post on Cyanogen's forum, open a github issue, or PM/mention devs who developed for LG phones in the past to see what their opinion is.
I can understand wanting to flash ROMs and such, it can definitely be fun, and it's good to have alternatives. But maybe i'm getting old, but i'm a bit tired of it nowadays: the bootloops, certain things not working, having to start over, the time wasted, missing phone calls from your girlfriend because you bootlooped and are constantly booted in recovery lmao. I think OEMs have come a long way since the early days of Android, so i'm usually good with rooted stock now, or a deodexed version. This phone already runs pretty great out of the box, so maybe try and enjoy it as it was made to be. And for sure with the Tmo model rootable, there's xposed, tweakbox, etc. But i definitely understand, OP, even flagship phones don't necessarily have as many custom ROMs as they used to.
The V10 is an awesome phone... But specialty development (cyanogen mod, AOSP) is going off a bit... First off development doesn't just happen... This is a brand new phone model, and although it uses a lot of the G4's hardware, there are a lot of differences, second screen being the biggest, also, t-mobiles version is currently the only one world wide with root access. Further hurting our chances. As for other flagship models, carriers and manufacturers, have been making it harder to root and modify phones... Which has been scaring development away... (why buy a phone you may never be able to modify?) if you want phones with a ton of options for development, I suggest you stick to either nexus devices, and /or something similar to the S series phones... That gets a ton of development... Plain and simple, T-Mobile is the only carrier on earth that doesn't care what you do to your phone. And from a development standpoint, this phone has only been out a little over 2 months, and currently has one model world wide with root access so unless someone Crack the bootloader on other models, or systemless root access becomes a reality with marshmallow, it's probably going to be a slow go... If you really want CM on your V10, (not sure why when you can strip this down to bare bones) you could build us all a rom... Seeing as you believe it's so easy...
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Thank you @ZDeuce2 and @YrrchSebor for telling it like it is. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Thank you @ZDeuce2 and @YrrchSebor for telling it like it is. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Plus I'd say nowadays in many cases, you lose more than you gain by erasing the software that skilled professionals have developed for your phone. Like you said, those guys good lol. Maybe carriers and/or other corporate/financial concerns might dumb things down or limit features, but root can be plenty enough to open things up for savvy users.
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Plus I'd say nowadays in many cases, you lose more than you gain by erasing the software that skilled professionals have developed for your phone. Like you said, those guys good lol. Maybe carriers and/or other corporate/financial concerns might dumb things down or limit features, but root can be plenty enough to open things up for savvy users.
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I agree. Outside of Nexus devices I found that Cyanogen has never had proper quality control and the maintainers do whatever they want. Random things are constantly broken and are never acknowledged or fixed. You never know whether a new nightly would fix things or just break things more, even if you followed the commit logs. It's certainly more of an enthusiast's endeavor rather than a rock-solid daily driver OS.
Then there is the garbage camera image quality on non-Nexus phones - the proprietary image processing libraries and other stuff from stock ROMs are just unrivaled and Cyanogen has never been able to match stock camera quality.
I found that especially in the last year or so, stock ROMs have really become robust and polished and I simply do not need to flash Cyanogen anymore to "unsuck" my phone. Root and Xposed are enough to clean up and customize the stock ROM the way I like it and make my phone perfect.
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I agree. Outside of Nexus devices I found that Cyanogen has never had proper quality control and the maintainers do whatever they want. Random things are constantly broken and are never acknowledged or fixed. You never know whether a new nightly would fix things or just break things more, even if you followed the commit logs. It's certainly more of an enthusiast's endeavor rather than a rock-solid daily driver OS.
Then there is the garbage camera image quality on non-Nexus phones - the proprietary image processing libraries and other stuff from stock ROMs are just unrivaled and Cyanogen has never been able to match stock camera quality.
I found that especially in the last year or so, stock ROMs have really become robust and polished and I simply do not need to flash Cyanogen anymore to "unsuck" my phone. Root and Xposed are enough to clean up and customize the stock ROM the way I like it and make my phone perfect.
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Yeah, agreed on all counts there..
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Yeah, agreed on all counts there..
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Only thing I would love to see is layers support added, then we would truly have a beast on our hands...
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Only thing I would love to see is layers support added, then we would truly have a beast on our hands...
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It doesn't work yet? There's a thread on it, so I tried it and it did theme some stuff, but maybe it isn't fully working? Plus I could swear that my system update center broke after using the Inverted UI module
YrrchSebor said:
It doesn't work yet? There's a thread on it, so I tried it and it did theme some stuff, but maybe it isn't fully working? Plus I could swear that my system update center broke after using the Inverted UI module
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It needs in rom support, which we don't have yet, to fully work completely. Probably why it seems like it broke stuff...
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If I knew how to build, and had a computer that wasn't a Commodore 64, I'd give it a shot, but as slow as my comps are we'll have well have Android Orange Cremesicle before it finishes building...
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ZDeuce2 said:
If I knew how to build, and had a computer that wasn't a Commodore 64, I'd give it a shot, but as slow as my comps are we'll have well have Android Orange Cremesicle before it finishes building...
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LOL! Well, if I knew how to code, I could do it, but I don't... so yeah. Unless adding the support is simpler than recoding a bunch of APKs?
While more development is always great, I'm very happy with debloated and deodexed stock-based ROMs for the V10. @siraltus has done good work, and that's really all I need, the ability to root, run Xposed and be free from bloatware. I'm sort of over Cyanogenmod in terms of actually flashing it myself. The importance of CM in the history of Android can't be overstated, but for a device with such specialized hardware as the V10 (secondary display, DAC/Amp, etc.), I don't think CM would ever be as good as a stock-based ROM.
I even prefer a stock theme nowadays.... At least it's consistent throughout the system, and I know I'll be able to read any and all text on my phone lol.
YrrchSebor said:
I even prefer a stock theme nowadays.... At least it's consistent throughout the system, and I know I'll be able to read any and all text on my phone lol.
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Nothing like a random white text on white background screen and you have no idea what it says... LOL.
A pretty great phone really, I've had mine for a month or so now. Unlocked, rooted, and you can tweak so many things with the Sony firmware(as was the case with my z ultra) but I guess my real question is, why is no one developing roms for this phone?!?
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A pretty great phone really, I've had mine for a month or so now. Unlocked, rooted, and you can tweak so many things with the Sony firmware(as was the case with my z ultra) but I guess my real question is, why is no one developing roms for this phone?!?
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Because Sony don't provide the device tree and the full vendor tree to build roms, they provide only the kernel tree because of GPL rules.
I really feel like this thing would kick major ass with some aosp love