[Q] PPSSPP emulator slow? - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have tried running PPSSPP on your z2 yet and if you were having any problems.
I can't seem to get Tekken 6 running at a playable speed (it runs at an average of 65% speed ingame). I can get it to sort of run fine when I turn on 7-8 frameskip, but then of course the framerate suffers to compensate...
I've tried many settings and have made sure that power saving features are deactivated... Could this be z2 specific or am I just missing something (I'm really hoping it's the latter)?
Cheers
P.S. (P?) Fwiw, I can get 3D Android games running fine (e.g. Spiderman 2, Prince of Persia Snf)

PulpDood said:
Hey guys, just wondering if any of you have tried running PPSSPP on your z2 yet and if you were having any problems.
I can't seem to get Tekken 6 running at a playable speed (it runs at an average of 65% speed ingame). I can get it to sort of run fine when I turn on 7-8 frameskip, but then of course the framerate suffers to compensate...
I've tried many settings and have made sure that power saving features are deactivated... Could this be z2 specific or am I just missing something (I'm really hoping it's the latter)?
Cheers
P.S. (P?) Fwiw, I can get 3D Android games running fine (e.g. Spiderman 2, Prince of Persia Snf)
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Ppsspp isn't that optimised yet... You're mistaking emulation with native Android code when talking about running the Android games.
Basically, ppsspp is taking psp game data and translating it to Android code to make it run... Every single bit of data.
This requires huuuuge cpu usage and is the reason it's so slow.
Tl : dr: no... It isn't yet possible to run most psp games at full speed, especially not extensive 3d ones like tekken.
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Thanks for the reply. I totally understand emulators will never be 100% compatible and perfect, even on high end computers just as lossy compression will never be a prefect representation of the original product.
But after some internetting, I found that PPSSPP seems to be able to run at least Tekken 6 at what seems to be close enough to original speed on most mid-high range phones. Examples:
Tkn6 on SGS3: http://youtu.be/t4lw0OexO3Y
Crisis Core FF7 on latest HTC M8 (which has pretty much the same processor as the z2): http://youtu.be/8mH1Z2cebpY
And many more videos of phones running Tkn6 just fine: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=y...Z04H4BQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=348&bih=409&dpr=3
TL;DR: PPSSPP seems to run Tekken 6 and graphically similar games fine on most phones, even those with inferior as well as similar specs to ze Z2, yet I can't seem to replicate anything close to the same speed let alone the same. :/
I bet there's just a setting that I stupidly forgot to change somewhere... Might try downloading Crisis Core and see how that goes.
EDIT: Hmm actually it seems Crisis Core runs fine. Guess it still could be the new CPU/GPU.
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Wow... That s3 video of tekken6... I'm amazed.
Did you try replicating his settings shown at the beginning?
If not it could simply be that it isn't ready to use our phones full power yet and just got to wait for a few updates.
Or something somewhere is bogging the cpu down
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pauliebb said:
Wow... That s3 video of tekken6... I'm amazed.
Did you try replicating his settings shown at the beginning?
If not it could simply be that it isn't ready to use our phones full power yet and just got to wait for a few updates.
Or something somewhere is bogging the cpu down
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Hi, I'm a PPSSPP developer and I'd just like to say that Tekken 6 is one of the hardest PSP games to emulate along with God of War.
You definitely need to have the latest version of PPSSPP from the download page, ppsspp.org/download and not just the one on Play Store. You also need to make sure you have the settings that this person was using in his video. Turn on all those speed hacks and make sure you're not turning on extra graphical effects.
Many of those settings aren't enabled by default like using multi-threading, disabling fog,.. They make a huge difference.
Then it will run at full speed.
Tekken 5 runs much faster by the way. You will be able to run it full speed without any speed hacks and will even be able to run it in Full HD with large textures.

Hi, none of the multiple combination of settings helps me to run this game, Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix on Xperia Z2 ppsspp gold 1.0.1
What should I do?
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Development on nds4droid..

I know that there are trillions of threads out of there regarding the issue, and maybe, I'll even get some people telling me off for making a new thread about this, but does anyone have any news on any NDS emulator?
I think our Galaxy S II is strong enough to emulate the NDS.. The NDS has the following specs: (According to Wikipedia.org)
Resolution of 256 × 192 pixels
CPUs: Two ARM processors
32 bit ARM946E-S main CPU; 67 MHz clock speed. Processes gameplay mechanisms and video rendering.
32 bit ARM7TDMI coprocessor; 33 MHz clock speed. Processes sound output, Wi-Fi support and takes on second-processor duties in Game Boy Advance mode.
RAM: 4 MB of mobile RAM, expandable via the Game Boy Advance slot (expansion only officially used by the Opera web browser).
OR, if anyone else is ready to continue the development, it would be really great. I know I'm being selfish here as a newbie, but I think it would be really worth the effort, as there would be many people like me dying to emulate NDS on our phones..
True. But seems to be a pain to emulate. Let's just wait, stare, and see.
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Yeah, I know how much effort it takes to emulate stuff, but still this project could be worth it. Believe it or not, we've all been waiting for a long time for this emulator.
The last version we saw for the nds4droid was v1.3, and no updates have been released thereafter, AFAIK... So, does any know about any version later than 1.3? *resumes hoping to play Pokemon Pearl on his phone someday*
i wish i knew how to code..i badly want to this fully functional!!
So do many other people.. Is there any way we could support the original developer with his project? I mean, if the dev wants to make this app usable, there will be many people who will be ready to donate to the dev for his hard work. Any possibility we could contact them?
Erm, I don't think I'll let this thread die.. Will someone be willing to help to keep this thread alive?
I just wanted to say that I have installed this on my GS2 running CM9 and it runs smooth as gameboid!
Only thing that needs fixing... no audio... if surely someone could work out how to enable audio, that is all this needs to run on modern day droids!
hellaflush said:
I just wanted to say that I have installed this on my GS2 running CM9 and it runs smooth as gameboid!
Only thing that needs fixing... no audio... if surely someone could work out how to enable audio, that is all this needs to run on modern day droids!
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Really? I'll have to try it out when I get home! And I'll help keep this thread alive ;-)
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hellaflush said:
I just wanted to say that I have installed this on my GS2 running CM9 and it runs smooth as gameboid!
Only thing that needs fixing... no audio... if surely someone could work out how to enable audio, that is all this needs to run on modern day droids!
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Not sure what game you're playing but any game I try is laggy as hell, overclocked to 1.4ghz aswel...
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There are two emulators that were being developed but ceased; tiger nds and nds4droid.
The galaxy s2 is powerful enough to handle a nds emulator. It's not the phone that is running the games slow, and without sound, but the coding of the apks.
Jo_725 said:
There are two emulators that were being developed but ceased; tiger nds and nds4droid.
The galaxy s2 is powerful enough to handle a nds emulator. It's not the phone that is running the games slow, and without sound, but the coding of the apks.
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I wish someone would keep up development
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If i remember correctly the main reason NDS emulation on PCs took a while was because the coding was wonky, for example even the current NDS emulator on computers is poorly optimized
our SII's have more then enough juice to run it, but again i think adapting the code is the problem, guess all we can do is wait *waves surrender flag*

nova 3 in tegra 3 vs chinese tablet, someone wtf?!?!

I've been playing nova on my htc one x as well as transformer prime, problem is it gets laggy in some areas with full effects chainfire fix (no chainfire means no effects but no lag) however my gs3 plays it fine with chainfire and A 200 quid chinese tablet with dual core rockchip and quad mali400 with chainfire plays it full effects no lag???!!! And to help you understand this the antutu score on chinese tablet is 7560 and all tegra devices are just over 12500 so wtf?! I'm just so annoyed,
All devices running clean rooted ics no mods or tweaks only interactive governor
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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motionmagic said:
Plays fine on my prime also. No lag, full effects.
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ditto here.
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deadlocked007 said:
Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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thanks deadlocked, i thought i was going crazy here and ive been reading the forums of other users complaining. without tweaking anything llike going into development settings max 1 process kill all processes is a temp fix but it doesnt work that well, i shouldnt have to do all that, not sure why a cheap chinese tablet can do this yet an expensive tablet with tegra 3 cant get it right?
i respect the recognized developer above but i thought he was winding me up there as a developer of all people should know there are issues
question now is what can be done, why is this issue even here, how do we resolve this
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He isn't a dev.... & well.. I'll end there.
As for Tegra 3 ULP Geforce GPU (with 8 spectacular cores)... it isn't a powerhouse GPU. It lacks raw power compared to Mali 400 (and basically all other GPUs)... however, it does have those "oozing" special effects that Nvidia patented.
Also, with single I/O memory controller... with the lack of bandwidth being channeled through during GRAPHIC intensive games... it can have some "FPS" issues.
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Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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What's to lie about? Nova3 and all other games do play fine on my Nexus 7. The framerate not slow either. Like I said, it plays great on my NEXUS 7. now for Prime, Nova3 seems to like to crash on mines. So as of now, I honestly don't know how it plays on my prime. But I do have it for my Nexus 7. Even with full effects, nexus 7 handles it with ease. Prime has software shortcomings that is likely what you are experiencing. Plus you have to REMEMBER THIS, EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES DIFFERENTLY. SO IF THE NEXT MAN SAYS THE GAME WORKS FINE ON HIS PRIME, THEN YOU HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT. IF YOU DONT, PEOPLE WONT BELIEVE YOU EITHER. JUST LIKE NOT EVERYONE PRIME BEHAVES THE SAME AFTER AN UPDATE.
PEOPLE NEED TO STOP ASSUMING THAT JUST BECAUSE YOUR DEVICE SEEMS to Run the game slower, everyone else's must also. PEOPLE ASSUME TO DAMN MUCH UP HERE. These devices are not all the same, unfortunately.
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
Its just like all other Gameloft games, they are not optimized at all to run with QuadCores or Tegra3 devices. Order and Chaos has the same issues, it doesn't have mind blowing effects and still runs at 24ish fps. Hell even Asphalt 6 doesn't feel like running at 60 fps. While other games with far, far better graphics run smooth like butter even when connected to the TV.
Parastie said:
I think you should also remember that your chinese tablet has an 800x480 screen, not 1280x800. That's a HUGE different in pixel count, so a slower/cheaper SOC can easily push 30+ frames a second to that screen.
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chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
mox123 said:
chinese tabet is 1280x800 so its not any less,
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Really? Which one do you have?
Parastie said:
Really? Which one do you have?
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latest Window N101 it also has a chinese name yuanduo n101 or something like that, for 200 bones its a good deal, capacitive multi touch 10 point ips screen, ics 4.0.4. rooted etc. hd screen and plays 720p files smoothly, not tested 1080p it has a dual core rockchip 3066 and quad core mali 400 gpu tablet itself is really nice, i thought the asus would have have performed better than the cheap chinese one, but obviously not in this case, its probably gameloft being lazy and not optimizing for tegra as all tegra games run really smooth even in high activity scenes, large environments, etc.
still peed off thogh
just figured i'd chime in again (because of the controversy,lol)...
i was running androwook 2.1 with motley's lite kernel, o'ced to 1.8
the last time i checked out NOVA3(actually the only time i played it).
i went through a couple of levels and didn't have any issues on my Prime.
lately, i have been running team EOS Jelly Bean, and benchmarks have been down,
even from stock ROM, so i haven't tried to run it lately.
i have been playing Riptide GP tho, and it is still smokin fast!
Since upgrading to JB and updating Dead Trigger, I have only noticed one hiccup right when loading a level, and then no more lag through the rest of the level. Before the update and on ICS the game lagged like crazy for the first 30 seconds then finally cleared up. I'm not sure which one fixed it, but perhaps you should check out the JB rom as well...
johanjonker said:
I have to agee with demandarim. I have a prime with 0 wifi issues, unlike most.. also I have mine rooted and clocked to 1.6ghz, also with no issues at all.. Since alot of people have issues with those I agree that no two prime are 100% equil
And if it runs well on other Tegra3 devices like the Nexus 7 .. Then it might be a issues with the Asus software.
I know were not even on a 3.x.x kernel yet.. we have 2.6.39.4.. even that might be an issue..
There is a lot of reasons youre's might be slow.. You can wait for Asus to release new firmware that might resolve you're issues, or you can load a custom rom, that is useing different firmware for you're hardware that is more based around performance.
Everyone here is willing to take there Desktop PC, load the latest drivers for there screencard or what ever, imagen you had to wait for a new release to update the driver? Like complaining Ubuntu 10.2 is craps compared to Ubuntu 11.1cause it doesn't run well on you're Alienware Desktop.. No.. you update the it... cause it fixes it! So if you would update you're out of the box Desktop for 25 more FPS, then THATS WHY WE BOUGHT ANDROID AND NOT APPEL... cause with a little tweaking its better..
appel is like flying business class.. its just fine.. Android/linux is like flying first class, you just get the bolts and spanner on you way in to fasten your seat.. so with a little tweak is better, or you fail to tighten the bolts, and then you complain on XDA forums
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1. Linux Kernel 3.1.1 vs 2.6.39.4 hardly matters.....
Perhaps you didn't know but Linux Kernel 3+ is really 2.6.40 but Linus Torvald simply renamed it to Linux Kernel 3.0...
The changes between the two kernel is minimal (of course, higher is always better in theory.. but here... it is extremely minimal)
If people want to discuss kernel & drivers..... and need someone to blame for multiple issues we have currently... look towards Nvidia FIRST & Asus 2nd (Asus is customer of Nvidia... and they are binded to their work.. sadly)
2. Tegra 3 SoC... no matter how much.. umm.. someone tells you... IS NOT A POWER SoC. It focuses mainly on battery performance (thus the 4+1 technology)... although.. sadly, it doesn't really perform that well in this category either if you look at smartphone sector (S4 HTC One X > Tegra 3 HTC One X).
Anyways, especially with single I/O memory controller, poor kernel/driver integration by Nvidia & Asus (this is assumption), and not very powerful GPU (yes, in terms of raw power... Tegra 3 is crap compared to other GPUs)..... IT CAN HAVE ISSUES during Graphic Intensive Games. IT CAN... as in... if we take Prime for example.... it behaves very radically from device to device.... thus... some will be unfortunate & some very fortunate.
3. I doubt Google wants Android to be portrayed as "tweaker" device. Google's trying their hardest to appeal to the mass public with Nexus 7..... Btw, all the updates & etc you speak of with Desktop.... going from Ubuntu 10.2 to Ubuntu 11.1 are OFFICIAL support. Custom ROMs are not....
deadlocked007 said:
Don't give us this bull****... Yes it may play without problem but it's not fully smooth. Runs like a 24 fps movie. Hell the loading times are abysmal. Demandarin I respect you for all the work you've done for us and how positive you've been but don't go as far as lying.... I should be able to run this game on my supposed top of the line tablet with a quad core processor without modifying anything at all. Yet I can't. Game experiences on this tablet have been horrible even with Tegra 3 optimized games.
Sorry if I'm coming out strong but I'm damned tired of this. I have to rma my tablet again just to be able to ota update. Really? Really? Can't even unlock for goodness sakes...
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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This. I couldnt agree more. I was looking for NOVA 3 lag fixes on my Nexus 7 and came across similar posts stating how smooth the game is. It's not smooth. The frame rate is ****. Seems like all of Gamelofts recent titles, lag to hell on Tegra 3. (Amazing Spiderman, Modern Combat 3, Nova 3). Look at videos of Nova 3 running on the Galaxy S3. Now that is smooth.
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Yup they all lag on my N7 and Prime, although there is some hope: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780587 hopefully its true they are working on optimizations for the Tegra 3 platform.
that is bs
demandarin said:
My nexus 7 plays nova3 with no lag at all...full effects
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Dude that is b.s.No offence.you can't install chainfire3D,hence no full effects.TEGRA 3 DOES NOT GET FULL EFFECTS ON NOVA 3.You don't see fire and smoke on the building at the right side in the first level, before you jump off the building you crashed into.Secondly it does lag very badly especially in multiplayer,I am on 620mhz GPU overclock with 1.6ghz CPU with smoothrom 4.1 android 4.1.2
I don't know about Nova 3, but I have to agree that Wild Blood for example is not smooth at all on my Prime.
Backstab on the other hand seems much smoother.
I'll try Nova 3 and let you know. ( Using Latest Energy Rom).

Playing games on the sgp 5.0 (QUESTION)?

Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
KOala888 said:
same cpu and gpu as sgs afaik. overclockable to 1.6 ghz stable
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How do you ovetclock to 1.6?
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spartacus279 said:
Hello All,
I was wondering how to improve the performance on games such as mc3, horn, and other high graphic games? I heard from someone that ics roms run games faster than gb , and that you also should overclock your device using an app called tegrak overclock. So my question is this: how well does our player run games, and if so how to make the games run smoother or better. Thanks!:laugh:
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
The Player 4 and 5 both use an SGX540 running at 200MHz. I have both NOVA 3 and MC3 on my Player, and it seems to me that Gameloft has definitely not optimized their Android games as well as they could (example: the 4th generation iPod Touch has a weaker SGX530 GPU and less RAM, yet MC3 runs better).
That said, I have seen people overclock the SGX540 in our Exynos 3110 to anywhere from 210-250MHz. If someone can implement this to a Player kernel, we should be able to do the same, and probably reduce some lag.
As far as Android version- from what I understand (and this may not be correct), 4.0 uses more RAM, so some games might work better on 2.3. I have also seen many reports that Gameloft's games do not work well on 4.0 (more lag and/or crashing), but they may have been updated to fix these issues.
I'm running Android 4.0. I've got an overclock to 1.2GHz. I have set the maximum number of background tasks to only allow 2. This has pretty much completely fixed any lag i've had whatsoever. Even on 2.3! I have MC3 and Nova 3 and they both run fine with the odd jitter every 10 mins but you can expect that with any device. I also bought Gangster Rio but I haven't tried that on Remics UX yet. It ran terrible last time Si used it on ICS Crumble but I didn't have the Background process limit set then so i'll get it and i'll see how it gose. But if you've got ICS Seriously, you will be amazed at what difference it makes. I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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(This thread should have been posted under Questions, just so you know.)
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I think this is part of the problem; our forum doesn't have a dedicated Q/A section like most do. For all you people uncertain; ALL QUESTIONS GO IN GENERAL. Never ever post a question in development.
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before the world explodes, I have a quick q, could we make a q& a section? Or ask for it, for the very least? or rename the general section?
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Karim.younus said:
I just hope Modern Combat 4: Zero Hour will run as smoothly!
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
I am making custom kernel atm, show me an example of overclocked gpu that we have. Afaik the were tryind to do so with i9000 without success
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TheTehk17 said:
I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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DZonikg said:
Nova 3 is much more playable for me on GP5 then on Nexus 7 ,you cant set video options so gamelooft set it for you in some awful retarded way and nova 3 lags heavy on mu nexys 7 even its quad core with tegra 3 ,on sg5 graphics is worster but plays smoth.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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If you look around, you'll see that just about anyone with a Tegra 3 device and a Gameloft game has the same problem. Either the Tegra 3 has a weak GPU, Gameloft fails at optimizing their games, or both.
If you set the graphics of NOVA 3 on the Player to the same level as on the N7, the game becomes unplayable, even though it has to push a much lower resolution. Tying that back in on-topic, as MC4 has more advanced graphics than NOVA 3, it is probably not going to work with the Players.
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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tegra 3 has very good gpy and with custom kernel you can overclock gpy to blow every other curent android device away..but that gamelooft are so ret..is it so hard to add video options like in every pc game or gta for android ..that is one day job..
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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I highly doubt it will run at all, unless Gameloft has a version with highly toned-down graphics. NOVA 3 with all effects and graphic elements set to high is nearly unplayable (though it looks incredible), and we know MC4 is more graphically advanced than N3. Even if these Players had a better GPU, though, RAM would still be an issue, and Gameloft might even skip on a PowerVR-optimized MC4 anyways.
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I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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A one day job? One day to re-do / re-render ALL the textures and models ? Also some games DO have options , like Max Payne.
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Its not one day..its one HOUR job..the game has allready options because every game engine has video option..but with a gamelooft you have to extract option file from ogg file then change on off what you thing ..save and then recreate ogg file again..And only game that gice options is rock star ..they are only developers with brains in android world for now..and off course there is no need to recreate textures..its one command in opengl.
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I can run Nova with no lag. The thing that was causing the problem I think was the RAM until o set it to 2 background tasks. And also SWAP file support could be another thing to work on to gives more than a 1GB or RAM.
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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I can run it with no lag, too. NOVA 3 for our Players has all the graphical effects disabled, but when they are turned on, the lag is unbearable, which is what I was talking about (I'll make a video showing this). Tying that back in, since MC4 has these graphical effects by default plus a new graphics engine, either the game will not work at all (read: to laggy to play), or Gameloft will greatly downscale the graphics for us (unlikely).
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Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
Karim.younus said:
Hmmm. Never knew that. How can I enable the better graphics cause I want to see what it looks like.
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Install Chainfire3d from the Market. Open it, install the driver, reboot, and it should be good to go.
However, a few warnings. Campaign will not work, at all. The only way for the game to load and be somewhat playable is to do a local WiFi multiplayer match with just yourself. I also recommend letting it sit for a minute or so after the map (pick a relatively small one) has loaded.
So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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So no campaign? Oh well I'm completely stuck on a mission anyway ha ha.
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Well, with the full graphics, the game lags too much when doing anything (except for walking around) for the campaign to be playable.

Gaming performance with that screen?

Hi. I am going to get a new phone, I am coming off of a Motorola Photon Q. I'm looking for a new phone and I don't really know which ones to get, I have a couple of them at the bottom. I am a moderate user. I text mildly, watch some youtube videos, etc. But I do like playing high-end games. My old Photon Q has an adreno 225, and it strains on playing MC4, around 13 FPS give or take.
The keyboard also just doesn't do much anymore and with 4 GB or storage, I can get one high-end game. -.-. I am considering these phones:
Htc One X+ - Because of good Tegra 3 clocked at 1700 and 64 GB space
Htc Droid DNA - Because of very good screen, but GPU might not be good enough for high end games? (Modern Combat, Asphalt, etc.)
Nexus 4 - Because cheap xD, GPU won't have as much strain on the lower resolution.
LG-G2 - 2300??? S800???? ADRENO330??? OF COURSE!
I haven't researched that many phones. (Only about 15 in-depth) so what is your opinion on these 4 phones? Any suggestions otherwise?
My budget is really around ~400 so the LG-G2 is like a dream haha...
Well thanks in advance!
The Adreno 320 in our DNA is MORE than enough for gaming. It is one of the fastest and most capable on the market. I play MC4, ASPHALT 7, SHADOWGUN: Deadzone etc with zero lag at all. In my oppinion, the DNA is supperior and the screen doesn't slow it down at all. This cpu and Gpu BLOW AWAY tegra 3.
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But, don't have any concerns with this GPU. It is as fast as my wife's iPhone 5 with the 543mp3 GPU.
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I have noticed a bit of stuttering in many games that isn't related to framerate. I've also noticed this on my buddy's GS4, so it may be a common experience. However, I got a chance to play around with the new nexus 7 and games seem to run smoothly (no hitching or juddering unrelated to framerate), similarly to my iPad, so this may be unavoidable on most hardware not google sanctioned (though the nexus 4 apparently has throttling issues, so who knows).
I'm convinced that most android graphics drivers suck. Hitching in games like angry birds is a bit on the sad side.
Well, the new Nexus 7 has the S4 processsor I believe but regardless, the only time I notice any stuttering is in some 2-D games and I belive that's because games not being optimized for the 1080p display. 3D games I play run flawlessly and are smooth as silk. Lol. But I do notice some stuttering in some games similar to 8 Ball Pool and Jet Pack game (or whatever it's called) I do hardcore Modern Combat 4 multiplayer gaming and it's never stuttered once on me.
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Speaking of gaming, if anyone on here is up for some Shadowguneadzone or Modern Combat 4 or maybe a quick game of 8Ball Pool, then PM me for my info. Always wanna play some games.
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I don't play a lot of games, but Plague, Inc. runs fantastically!
I LOVE plague inc.
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Well I'm on Ecliptic Sense 5. Dead Trigger and NBA 2K13 run VERY smoothly. And 2k13 is probably one of the most proccessor and graphicaly intensive games on the Play Store. I wouldn't recommend a CM ROM for gaming, because of the lower GPU clock speed. You could also look into the HTC One or the Butterfly S if you haven't already.
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I'm back on Stock Sense 4+ with Blackout-V5.9 kernel and stock levels and gaming is ultra smooth. This truly is a gaming phone for me. I play Asphalt 7 and compare it to my wife's iPhone 5 and the framerate is 100% the same and the graphics are actually slightly better on my DNA. That's saying a lot because the iPhone 5 GPU is a BEAST!! But once they released optimized games for our Adreno 320 GPU then it will hands down, be the best. Modern Combat 5 and Asphalt 8 and Dead Trigger 2 is going to he AMAZING on here!!! I can't wait!
On an unrelated note, my Dead Trigger name is Deadlytrigger24 and my Modern Combat 4 tag is my facebook James Anderson. Lol
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So I purchased a new nexus 7 yesterday and experience absolutely none of the non-fps related stuttering that my DNA runs into, even through they're running very similar hardware. It looks like the DNA and even the new S600 phones iare definitely crippled by some kind of software or driver inefficiencies.
Okay, so plague inc was running... Now that I'm on 4.3 it keeps crashing when the world map comes up.
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I know that my friend has the stock DNA and was having some lag issues with a game called Dragonvale. Nothing major but after too much stuff got on the screen it would stutter just a bit. He moved to the NOS M7 3.0.1 (JB 4.2.2) ROM and his performance went way up and has absolutely no issues. Not sure if this is related to the phone having no bloatware, or if the ROM actually has some performance improvements.
I wud suggest the htc one x for u bcoz my friend owns it and ive used it to play high end games which run veryy smoothly
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So guys, I traded down for the S3 and games seem to be more optimized for it. Games def run smoother on my S3 and I find it strange because the S3 has an Adreno 225 and the DNA is the Adreno 320...:/ but I'm glad I switched, 4.1.2 on the S3 is smooth as butter with no hiccups at all.
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Vfan23 said:
So guys, I traded down for the S3 and games seem to be more optimized for it. Games def run smoother on my S3 and I find it strange because the S3 has an Adreno 225 and the DNA is the Adreno 320...:/ but I'm glad I switched, 4.1.2 on the S3 is smooth as butter with no hiccups at all.
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Thanks for the heads up. I guess we just don't rate. Note to self: don't buy a carrier exclusive phone again.
Infinite Jest said:
Thanks for the heads up. I guess we just don't rate. Note to self: don't buy a carrier exclusive phone again.
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I suppose I'd like to pose a question to developers:
In addition to the DNA, the HTC One and GS4 I've found to run most games, most noticeably in 2D scrolling games, with a sort of hiccup roughly every hundred frames. I'm not sure whether to classify it as a dropped frame, hitch, or microstutter, but it seems to ave very little bearing on the framerate the game is running at, of course more noticeable at games that run at a higher framerate. After purchasing a new nexus 7 with very similar hardware, I found that this 'hitching' was mysteriously absent in all games I had observed it to occur using the other devices. My best case example would probably be the game dead space; on the DNA and the One, I noticed severe hitching/hiccups at almost regular intervals with an otherwise excellent framerate. Coming from the world of PC gaming, the first thing that pops into my head is a driver issue as most games exhibit this behavior. I should note that I've observed this same behavior in AOSP and CM ROMS (4.1-4.3) using the DNA. I suppose my question is: why does this occur and is there a possible fix?

[Q] GTA San Andreas on I9100

So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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So San Andreas is out in December and I was wondering if our beloved S2 can play it. It's kind of my all-time favourite game and i was hoping i could refresh some old memories. With 1 gb of RAM and a decent processor it should just about make the cut...Can anyone help me with any tricks, maybe some kernels to flash or overclocking which can cause a considerable boost in gaming performance or will siyah or dorimanx not have much of an effect...I know that benchmarks are not always conclusive but I can just about manage to get barely playable framerates on dead trigger 2 high graphics with stock cm 10.2 while i could play it only on low graphics on the stock ROM...This is the first game in which i have experienced any performance issues while modern combat 4, gta 3 and vice city, nfs most wanted, pvz 2, angry birds, fifa 14 etc run like a dream...Any tips for squeezing that last bit of performance and battery life would be greatly appreciated...
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i think you should use PurePerformances X mod(see the thread there is some point says "- Allows you to play ported games without lags"its awesome.
here is the link to the mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360985
P.S:i like GTA san andreas very much.
Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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Well i flashed it and things are definitely faster. Dead trigger 2 is playable at high graphics now while battery life hasnt taken a hit. Thanks a lot
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can you give me fps for dead trigger 2? and what rom plus kernel?
btw san andreas have • Enhanced for the iPhone 5 series and iPad 4th Gen and above with dynamic detailed shadows and real-time environmental reflections.
now we look to other game that do kind of this enhancement too, ravensword shadowland. on our device shadowland run on full effect like 4s/ipad 2 but without the enhancement for iphone 5/ipad 4.
if your curious what the enhancement look like just see ravensword shadowland on iphone 5/ipad 4 on youtube. On the first five minutes of game play, you will meet a big troll. Now on S2 the troll body texture is the same as ipad2/4s while on iphone 5 it have better texture.
It depend on the setting itself, maybe on android full effect setting only have same effect like 4s/ipad 2 or maybe can run on high setting but without shadow.
btw sky gambler air supremacy on our device does'nt have lens flare like ipad 2/4s :crying:
GreekBlood said:
Link to play store gta san andreas?
Don't see it at rockstar inc.
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check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
LYandroid said:
check this out:http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/11/gta-san-andreas-ios-out-now/;)
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wheeee, amazing!
Our phone will run this since vc runs on ultra without lag.
I hope this game will be running on our s2 at high graphics without lag
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Dude, every one,hear this,GTA san andreas is just released for android its now on google play.
EDIT:now its working for most devices after 1.03 update(even Samsung S3), it should work now on S2 since the GPU is the same as S3.
Sorry for bad enghlish.
Here is a link for the game: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rockstargames.gtasa&hl=en
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perfomance review pls at max setting
GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
GreekBlood said:
Seriously, the graphics are down scaled a lot compared to pc...
(look pics at google play)
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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have you see the game on other device? especially on non mali gpu? the screenshot is same on google play and the game itself on galaxy note 3 with max setting (from some site) from my perspective the graphic have ugly and flat texture. I see some people share ss on adreno devices and the texture is better compared on note 3/google play. I believe the mali version have toned down texture and polygon. the character itself look ugly compared to ps2 version.
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ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
GreekBlood said:
ps2 is vga, on pc you can get to hdmi (much better quality)
But my question is,
Is the whole story ported? All the missions and side missions?
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i m not talking about the resolution, oh well just forget it...
i haven't tested it yet, still waiting for stable version
Yes everything is ported, I'm in San Fierro now . And 1.0.3 is the stable version. R* have confirmed this.
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Well, generaly, even if such games work on my SGSII, my device burns as hell after 15mins of gameplay..
(I have to keep it plugged in for battery would drain in 10min otherwise x) )
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run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
amdultra said:
run fine on neatrom lite debloated 5.4.2 + pure perfomance mod
the game seems lock on 24 - 28 fps no matter setting used ,even when frame limiter off hover around 28-31 fps, remind's me of ps2 version
run fine on max setting except shadow and car reflection on low,
little slow down with crowded traffic if use detailed car reflection and med shadow
stutter when shadow and car reflection on max
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that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
LYandroid said:
that sounds good:good:,does the game performing well when the phone is connected to MHL/hdmi adapter on TV??????
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i dont know , i dont have mhl/hdmi adapter maybe you can buy me one? i will test it :laugh:
btw i notice no matter low res,graphics or draw distance , the game will stutter if use car detail more than low and shadow more than classic. If seems the mali doesn't have enough power to run those two(vertex bound). If you want to play this game smoothly on all max, you need min a device with adreno 305 gpu with max res at 720p. so just turn off shadow and car detail if you want to play this game smoothly. I use classic shadow and low car detail and the effect look like PS2 version , it's okay btw for me
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GTA SA works flawlessly with no lags on high settings on my GS2 running Stock Official 4.1.2. No Root, No Custom Kernel
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what setting you use for shadow and car detail? and how many FPS you get? (try with FPS meter)

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