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I don't want to be too critical but many Smart Actions I found here or other Razr forums tend to be very restrictive on your use.
Com'on, you bought an expensive fancy phone which uses the fastest 4G LTE network, you paid some premium on those joy. It is never a Verizon LTE Razr if you turn 4G off.
So my bottom line is :
1.I want to be able to surf web/watch youtube/check email on 4G or wifi network when I want to (as opposed to wait for 5 seconds because it was off when screen was off)
And
2. I want to have reasonable battery life.
After some testing, Smart Actions that work on my Razr is
1. At Home: when it detect my wifi, it will switch there.
2. In call: When there is incoming call, turn off Data Connection and Screen turn to 0% brightness. (This is CDMA network, so you can't surf and use data at the same time anyway. Or do you really do a lot of such things? If so, please ignore this)
This #2 will help if you have constant phone conversation of about 30 mins daily. You won't want to burn unnecessary juicy while you are only talking.
3. At work where no wifi is available (for security reasons), I turn it off. I sit in office most of the time of the day, so you won't want wifi keep scanning and eating juice. I used TImeFrame to identify this, not geo location because wifi will need to be turned off.
4. In the night, using the night saver sample, I turned off cell data and background sync.
5. Low battery saver: surprisingly, in this action I only turned it to 0% screen brightness. Why? Just imagine you are using it as GPS or some important task on the road, you dont want to lose the GPS/Data if the battery dropped below a threshhold?
6. Most helpful action:
No Action At Work.
If you are working in office most of the time, your cellphone is quietly sitting on your desk mainly. So if you specify
1. at work
2. movement detection found nothing moving
then disable background sync. it will save the juice and when you turn on the screen to check email, the 4G is always there.
The whole idea , is not to disable data connection whenever you turn off screen. Many times you will have background downloads and sometimes when you turn on the screen, the phone takes some time to restore the data connection. which makes you staring at your phone can wait for a while. quite unfortunate if you have an Iphone user sitting beside you immediately pull the data out, right? =)
Personal settings, hopefully it helps you. It will easily give you 12 hours of usage. and for my charge now: 10 hours later it is at 80%, of course it has 6 hours of night standby.
Let's discuss more TESTED smart actions here? =)
note: if your phone is in your pocket a lot during a working day, don't use motion detection and you know why...
You can use voice and data simultaneously when on 4g. Just fyi.
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Yup, it's definitely useful too.
Example: talking to friend on phone about hanging out, go to home screen open Google maps to check when the next bus comes, while still talking to friend
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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"Movement Detection"
Is there such an option? Been looking for it, can't find it.
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It's motion
+ you need to update to get it
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Copy that, update req Glad moto is updating though, it could be a uber powerful app.
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Think if they make it more granular it will be great
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thank you for the tips.
I love Tasker. I use it a lot on my phone for all kinds of automated tasks. For the Prime, I have set up the following so far:
1. at 11pm it shuts off WiFi and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger)
2. at 10pm it shuts off BT and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn BT off)
3. at 10pm it shuts off GPS and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn GPS off) - UPDATE: I see now this one will not work in the HC OS as the system requires user interaction to set GPS
4. at 11pm it shuts off Sync and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger and I dont want to hear gMail alerts all nigh)
5. When on power cable, it (a) turns off the need to unlock it (b) leaves the screen on
6. give me an alert tone at 20% battery
7. if it is in my car and attached via BT it turns up the brightness (since I am outside) and leaves on display (as I normally also have it plugged in) so I can use things like Torque and the Navi/GPS and see the screen
thats all for now... anyone else?
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I love Tasker. I use it a lot on my phone for all kinds of automated tasks. For the Prime, I have set up the following so far:
1. at 11pm it shuts off WiFi and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger)
2. at 10pm it shuts off BT and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn BT off)
3. at 10pm it shuts off GPS and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn GPS off)
4. at 11pm it shuts off Sync and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger and I dont want to hear gMail alerts all nigh)
5. When on power cable, it (a) turns off the need to unlock it (b) leaves the screen on
6. give me an alert tone at 20% battery
7. if it is in my car and attached via BT it turns up the brightness (since I am outside) and leaves on display (as I normally also have it plugged in) so I can use things like Torque and the Navi/GPS and see the screen
thats all for now... anyone else?
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Never heard of that but it sounds like an awesome app
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I love Tasker. I use it a lot on my phone for all kinds of automated tasks. For the Prime, I have set up the following so far:
1. at 11pm it shuts off WiFi and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger)
2. at 10pm it shuts off BT and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn BT off)
3. at 10pm it shuts off GPS and never starts back up in morning (save battery if I forget to put it on charger or forget to turn GPS off)
4. at 11pm it shuts off Sync and starts back up at 6:30am (save battery if I forget to put it on charger and I dont want to hear gMail alerts all nigh)
5. When on power cable, it (a) turns off the need to unlock it (b) leaves the screen on
6. give me an alert tone at 20% battery
7. if it is in my car and attached via BT it turns up the brightness (since I am outside) and leaves on display (as I normally also have it plugged in) so I can use things like Torque and the Navi/GPS and see the screen
thats all for now... anyone else?
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Haven't gotten my Prime yet, but that Tasker app sounds pretty cool. It sound kind of like JuiceDefender, except there's a lot more options.
With those settings, what kind of Battery life do you get?
If you don't know what Tasker is, you have no idea how powerful it is. It is amazing, you can control virtually every function, setting, alert, automation, etc. What I have done here is the tip if the iceberg. I have some for my phone that sense I am in my car, thanks to BT, and does a series of 3 to 4 steps like turn up brightness, play a tone to tell me it is connected to my car, start up a certain app, etc..
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If you don't know what Tasker is, you have no idea how powerful it is. It is amazing, you can control virtually every function, setting, alert, automation, etc. What I have done here is the tip if the iceberg. I have some for my phone that sense I am in my car, thanks to BT, and does a series of 3 to 4 steps like turn up brightness, play a tone to tell me it is connected to my car, start up a certain app, etc..
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That's epic.
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Tasker is pretty awesome!
A bit of a learning curve, but once you figure it out, the sky is the limit.
I have a profile that if I receive a text while driving, it autoresponds telling the person texting and driving is dangerous and I am currently driving at xx MPH and will get with them later.
I get a lot of people inquiring about that one.
The most useful one I have is it looks at my calendar and if it is during the time of my meeting, it automatically puts my phone on vibrate. That way I don't have to worry about it. When meeting is over, it reverts back to normal.
Yes, tasker is INCREDIBLE. Once you figure it out, it can almost double your battery life (at least it did on my phone).
You can try reddit.com/r/tasker, where most people post awesome tasker profiles and ask for help accomplishing certain settings. There are also a ton on the internet if you google search for tasker set-ups:
http://tasker.wikidot.com/profile-index (this is a great one)
I have been using Tasker for a while. It is incredible. My current challenge is switching to switftkey when I have my TFP keyboard undocked, and to the asus keyboard when the keyboard is docked. Tasker can detect the keyboard being plugged in, but not being unplugged. If anyone solves this, I would love to hear about it.
Tasker is one of the defining differences between ios and Android. Really shows off how powerful android can really be if you're willing to take the time
OP wanna post your profiles? And maybe a quick writeup (or link) how to apply them for those who dont know...
I used to use tasker for BLN to enable notifications from various apps that normally didnt work with BLN, as well as making my phone vibrate every minute or so if theres a missed notification (text, etc) for aprox 5 minutes just so that way if i was with a customer at work (retail) i could deal with the customer but wouldnt forget about the messages i got
Awesome app indeed.
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I have been using Tasker for a while. It is incredible. My current challenge is switching to switftkey when I have my TFP keyboard undocked, and to the asus keyboard when the keyboard is docked. Tasker can detect the keyboard being plugged in, but not being unplugged. If anyone solves this, I would love to hear about it.
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Put a small SD card in the dock. Have Tasker check when it mounts/unmounts.
Might not work since there's no notification on unmounting /Removable/SD. Maybe have it check for access to /Removable/SD every X minutes?
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I have been using Tasker for a while. It is incredible. My current challenge is switching to switftkey when I have my TFP keyboard undocked, and to the asus keyboard when the keyboard is docked. Tasker can detect the keyboard being plugged in, but not being unplugged. If anyone solves this, I would love to hear about it.
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if you are rooted, keyboard manager is a free app in the market that does this. when im not docked, i gvet thumb keyboard 4. when i am docked, asus stock. hasnt failed me yet
Got mine setup with a profile to set off an alarm when the microsd gets unmounted.
Almost lost my mircrosd once before with it popping out and not realising to later - hopefully this should help
I have 4 profiles that I copied from my phone to do the same tasks:
Home: When near my Home wi-fi AP, turn on wi-fi. When no longer near the AP, turn off wi-fi.
Sleep Mode: Put device on silent, turn on airplane mode (11PM-5AM).
Work Location: When near my office wi-fi, turn on wi-fi, turn on silent mode. When no longer near the AP (i.e. not at work), turn off wi-fi, turn off silent mode off.
Work Timer: During work days/hours (M-F 6-3), turn silent mode on. After work hours, turn silent mode off. Exception: if there's an event with a description of "Vacation" on the calendar. If that exists, device does not go into silent mode.
There are others that I use on my phone.
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Got mine setup with a profile to set off an alarm when the microsd gets unmounted.
Almost lost my mircrosd once before with it popping out and not realising to later - hopefully this should help
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BRILLIANT! I have actually seen no use for tasker for myself til now. I've always REALLY liked he concept, but there isn't ANYTHING that I want happening automatically. Until now. Thanks!!!
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Got mine setup with a profile to set off an alarm when the microsd gets unmounted.
Almost lost my mircrosd once before with it popping out and not realising to later - hopefully this should help
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GREAT idea. Just set one up so "card Unmounted" plays an Alarm that will go on and on and on until I address it.
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but there isn't ANYTHING that I want happening automatically. Until now. Thanks!!!
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Really, you don't want to shut BT or WiFi or GPS or Sync while you sleep to conserver battery overnight?? That alone is a useful set of tasks.
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GREAT idea. Just set one up so "card Unmounted" plays an Alarm that will go on and on and on until I address it.
Really, you don't want to shut BT or WiFi or GPS or Sync while you sleep to conserver battery overnight?? That alone is a useful set of tasks.
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i understand how powerful this tool can and is. but i shut my prime off at night... there is no battery to conserve... lol sorry. im glad it works for you guys though! it REALLY may be worth investing the money into though JUST for microsd unmount alerts.
Something tells me you don't fully grasp the true depth & scope of Taskers abilities. Thus far the tasks listed are child splay that barely scrape the surface.
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Something tells me you don't fully grasp the true depth & scope of Taskers abilities. Thus far the tasks listed are child splay that barely scrape the surface.
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i believe you are correct. but i am not very imaginative. so its very possible that i cant just find a use for it, doesnt meant that it isnt there. i plan on doing some research into some of the already made profiles to see if someone interests me. so far, the unmount microsd seems to be the only plausible for me
Not sure how I missed this thread before; I'm a huge fan of Tasker. All of what follows was written for my Samsung Epic 4G: I don't even have Tasker installed on my TFP because so much of what I do is smartphone-focused. Sooner or later I'll get around to putting together some tablet-specific scripts.
Surreptitiously snaps a photo from the front-facing camera every time the screen is unlocked, with no visual or audio indication. This is set up so as to always keep the last 2 photos stored, and will overwrite older photos. Images can be retrieved remotely via a secret text message.
Set up secret text messages that trigger the phone to gather information such as GPS location (reverse geocoded to an address), speed, heading, altitude, local cell tower ID and signal strength, nearby and connected WiFi SSIDs, WAN IP, currently open app, whether the screen is turned on, battery strength, and covert photographs taken from the front and rear cameras (including the one that was captured from the front camera when the screen was last unlocked) and text/email me back without notifying whomever has the phone. Another message will make my phone freak out, announce it's been stolen, announce that all of the above information has been sent to the owner of the phone, flash the LED in an SOS, and force all outbound calls to go to me.
If I send a secret message to my phone, it calls me back, and enables speakerphone, so I can speak with whomever has my phone. It also reroutes any outbound calls to my number. I can also ask it to send me photos from the front and rear cameras on the phone.
Ensured that when the phone is connected to my home's local cell tower, it always rings when I call it. I never have to worry about it being on vibrate while under a couch cushion or in a snowbank next to the driveway.
When I plug in a headset or it connects to my car's bluetooth, it pops up a list of media applications for me to use, and if I don't select one or back out of the selection, it automatically starts my Pandora, and kills the app when I unplug / disconnect. Basically, I get in my car, my music plays. I get out, it stops. Same with headphones.
When it detects the cell tower near my work, it enables vibrate.
If it detects a cell tower that is not the one near my home or work, it turns on the ringer and disables WiFi (unless I re-enable it).
If someone calls me that I don't even want a voicemail from, I add their number to a list in Tasker, and when they call me, it picks up the line and immediately hangs it up. Working on one that will play back a fake "Your call could not be completed as dialed" message.
Checks accuweather.com in the morning on work days to see if it's raining, snowing, sleeting, or hailing. If any of the above, it rings an alarm 30 minutes early. I also built in snooze functions and a voice notification in the morning about the outside temperature and conditions. This script recently broke (accuweather probably did something to affect the output of my HTTPGet) so I've been using the voice notification in Alarm Clock Plus, though it doesn't wake me up early. With current weather conditions I'm going to have to get my script fixed for the head start. My how-to on this script is on Tasker's wiki, here: http://tasker.wikidot.com/weather-clock
If I start Google Navigation with GPS disabled, it closes the app, enables GPS, and starts the app back up again. No more fiddling with GPS settings while on the go. Sometimes this script is not 100% reliable... I've got to look at it again some time to figure out why.
I made a blog post a while back about how to take the pictures remotely with the camera, and you can read about it here:
http://sean-the-electrofreak.blogspot.com/2011/10/more-fun-with-tasker-covert-mugshots.html
The email-attachment part can also be used to send audio recordings, which I've not actually implemented yet but wouldn't be difficult.
I've been putting off for the last 6 months or so my write-up on all the rest... I just have to find time for it!
Hello, everybody. Newb here (only have had the HTC Evo View 4G for a couple of days now). I have a question about the battery and screen. Is it regular for the screen to use up about ~60 percent of the battery? (According the usage stats). I find that the screen is bright, even on the lowest setting.
Also, I have a question about the battery. It seems to be draining a little quick (I am using lowest brightness and WiFi only). Could some people share how long their battery usually lasts for regular usage? I don't think it's a hardware issue. Like I've said, I've only had it for 2 days, so I don't know if I still need to wait a little.
Thanks!
The screen is one of the biggest battery drainers (if not the biggest) on tablets. So if you are using the tablet a lot, and the screen is on for long periods of time, then 60% seems normal. I don't have my Flyer with me right now to check what my % for screen is.
Battery drain is going to depend a bunch on how much you are using your View, and for what. With moderate usage, I can get around 2 days on a charge. I'd say that is about average for me. But if you are downloading big files and gaming, and/or have the screen on a lot, it can be significantly less.
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The screen is one of the biggest battery drainers (if not the biggest) on tablets. So if you are using the tablet a lot, and the screen is on for long periods of time, then 60% seems normal. I don't have my Flyer with me right now to check what my % for screen is.
Battery drain is going to depend a bunch on how much you are using your View, and for what. With moderate usage, I can get around 2 days on a charge. I'd say that is about average for me. But if you are downloading big files and gaming, and/or have the screen on a lot, it can be significantly less.
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Okay, that makes sense. The battery life seems to be getting better. One more question. I want WiFi to turn off after a certain amount of time once the screen timeouts. Is there any way to do this in the settings or with an app? The settings (official 3.2) has a WiFi timeout policy that gives three options:
Switch from WiFi to mobile data when screen is off
Never switch WiFi off
Never switch WiFi off when plugged in
I live in Canada and don't have a plan. Would using the first option drain more battery because it is looking for a connection? Or should I use the third option?
Thanks again.
Hmm, not sure. I have the WiFi only version of the Flyer, and on mine the first choice is just "When screen turns off". The first choice on your View is weird. Mobile data always uses more power than WiFi, if both are available. I don't see why you would ever want that.
BTW, I'm at home and have access to my Flyer now. Battery usage for screen is 52% for me. So I'd say 60% you mentioned is pretty normal.
You should also take into account, unless you've taken steps to turn it off/remove it, Cell standby might also be causing your battery life to take a hit. Since the View is set up to also be able to receive text messages, out of the box it's constantly trying to connect to Sprint's cellular network, even if you have mobile data turned off. This thread discusses ways to deal with it. Cell standby used to be one of the biggest users of my battery. Now, it's no longer a problem and I've seen a major increase in battery life.
As for the WiFi issue, the first choice in the settings actually says "When screen turns off (uses more mobile data)." That doesn't mean that it automatically switches mobile data on if you've turned it off in the settings by selecting that option. It's worded that way because the View is designed to be used on Sprint's network, so under normal circumstances it is assumed that if you turn WiFi off, you'll have a data plan and automatically connect to the mobile data network. If you don't have an account with mobile data from Sprint, and you've turned off mobile data in the settings, it won't be an issue because you have nothing to connect to.
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As for the WiFi issue, the first choice in the settings actually says "When screen turns off (uses more mobile data)."
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That makes much more sense.
Okay, thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. With heavy usage (basically using it all the time) I'd get about 6 hours and 10 minutes. Is that normal for everybody else?
Also, I have a couple of more questions, if you guys don't mind.
First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
And, do apps running in the background use battery life or are they 'frozen' until active? This sort of leads me into my next question. Is having 400-500MB of RAM always being used normal? Is the OS using all of it?
And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
Thanks again, guys.
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Okay, thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. With heavy usage (basically using it all the time) I'd get about 6 hours and 10 minutes. Is that normal for everybody else?
Also, I have a couple of more questions, if you guys don't mind.
First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
And, do apps running in the background use battery life or are they 'frozen' until active? This sort of leads me into my next question. Is having 400-500MB of RAM always being used normal? Is the OS using all of it?
And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
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Rooting won't necessarily boost battery life, but does give you ways to access more system items if you want using apps that take advantage of root.
Android attempts to keep non-rumming apps in memory so that it can load them faster in the future (Ram is much faster than SD memory). 80% Ram full is typical.
Airplane mode turns off all radios, BT, Wifi, GPS, 3g.
There are apps in the market that can turn various things on / off based on your environment / time / conditions
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First of all, could rooting my device boost my battery life? Would it give me more access to settings like screen brightness?
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You don't need root access to adjust screen brightness. Settings -> Screen -> Brightness.
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And I notice that when I put my tablet in airplane mode (to kill the 4G radio) I lose access to Bluetooth. Is this normal and will turning off airplane mode for a minute be a battery drain?
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Airplane mode turns off all radios, BT, Wifi, GPS, 3g.
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Airplane mode turns off all radios initially, but then you can turn almost all of them right back on (except for the cellular radios). I run mine in airplane mode all the time to keep the cellular radio completely inactive, but I still use WiFi, GPS, and Bluetooth when I need/want them, and they all work great. Are you running Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I do seem to remember some mentions of not being able to use Bluetooth in airplane mode on Gingerbread. It works perfectly fine on Honeycomb.
And you can turn off the 4G radio and all data service without turning on airplane mode (Settings -> Wireless & networks -> Mobile network). Doing this turns off all radios that receive data from the cellular network, but it doesn't turn all cellular functions off since the View is also set up to receive text messages. That's what airplane mode or any of these options address.
What I meant by adjusting the screen brightness was being able to control its range more than I can right now (I feel that even the lowest setting can be too much). But it seems that rooting/installing a custom ROM wouldn't do too much for the battery.
But my issue with airplane mode is that I can't turn on Bluetooth with it (Bluetooth is 'grayed out'). I am running official Honeycomb.
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But my issue with airplane mode is that I can't turn on Bluetooth with it (Bluetooth is 'grayed out'). I am running official Honeycomb.
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Did you try tapping on the box for Bluetooth in the settings even though it looks like you can't, and did you try using a widget to turn it on? I'm using stock OTA Honeycomb, and Bluetooth works perfectly fine for me while in airplane mode. I can turn it on in the settings (the box does look a little "grayed out," but you can still select it) or via a homescreen widget. If you can't turn it on with either of those, then it would seem that you've got some other type of problem. It works fine for me. I just tested it out again.
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Did you try tapping on the box for Bluetooth in the settings even though it looks like you can't, and did you try using a widget to turn it on? I'm using stock OTA Honeycomb, and Bluetooth works perfectly fine for me while in airplane mode. I can turn it on in the settings (the box does look a little "grayed out," but you can still select it) or via a homescreen widget. If you can't turn it on with either of those, then it would seem that you've got some other type of problem. It works fine for me. I just tested it out again.
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I just tried it. It seems to not be working for me, but it doesn't seem like a glitch but something built into the OS (I tried with a widget and it did a little 'no' animation). It's alright, I rarely use Bluetooth anyway.
Thanks for all of your help (plus everybody else, too)!
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I just tried it. It seems to not be working for me, but it doesn't seem like a glitch but something built into the OS (I tried with a widget and it did a little 'no' animation). It's alright, I rarely use Bluetooth anyway.
Thanks for all of your help (plus everybody else, too)!
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I'd venture to say it's not something built into the OS. If it is built into the OS, then there's a glitch that allows me to use it under the same circumstances, and glitches rarely enable functionality. They almost always cause a device to lose functionality like you're experiencing. I'd be curious to know if anyone else is having the same issue you're having.
Last time I have ran battery test on my Flyer I ran it for almost 11 days on one charge. Yeap, 11 days. I mostly used Flyer as a notepad, checked orders on website couple of times a day, read emails. One day I played a game for about 20 minutes. At the end I set up and tested Plex and Google Music. I stopped the test at 11% charge. Overall screen was on for a bit over 4 hours (40%). Wi-fi on for 16 hours (only 4% ??) according to stats. That's pretty much it. Tablet idle 43%. Fairly light usage, but I mostly was testing how much of useable time I can get out of it. 11 days is a pleasing result.
Hello all,
I have been using Juice Defender for a few weeks and the last two days I noticed I couldn't connect to the internet. I then noticed that my data network had been turned off and after doing a little research I believe that Juice Defender is indeed the culprit. Is there any other battery savers out there that are basically the same that won't do this to me?
Thank you for your time,
AJ
What are your settings in juice defender, cause you can customise power saving profiles..
I just set it on balanced. What is a good setting?
Balanced is good, click customize and set it to your liking... The free version wont give you much customization, you might wanna get the paid version "Ultimate" for maximum customization options..
I have never used juice defender, but most of the "battery saver" apps I am familiar with get most of their battery savings by disconnecting data except for short periods of up time.
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OK. I wonder why it shut my data completely off and didn't turn it back on. Hows battery 2x
Just curious how much does juice defender actually save on battery? Currently I get about 4-4.5 hrs screen time, is juice defender really gonna improve it that much?
(sorry for the ot)
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Just curious how much does juice defender actually save on battery? Currently I get about 4-4.5 hrs screen time, is juice defender really gonna improve it that much?
(sorry for the ot)
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I personally found that JD killed my battery faster when it was enabled. I got rid of it a long time ago.
Alternative to Juice Defender? Nothing.
Just don't use it, except:
Use BetterBatteryStats to identify apps that are hogging your battery by holding wakelocks, and uninstall them.
Use Advanced Task Killer to kill wakelocking apps that you HAVE to keep around for whatever reason, but want to kill if they're holding wakelocks. (Like Facebook - that's the only app I kill after bootup at this point.) - Note, NEVER use an automatic task killer, and never use a task killer for memory management, only for killing wakelock holders.
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I have never used juice defender, but most of the "battery saver" apps I am familiar with get most of their battery savings by disconnecting data except for short periods of up time.
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+1 on that. I didn't see any battery saver app that does not do it.
Entropy512 said:
Use Advanced Task Killer to kill wakelocking apps that you HAVE to keep around for whatever reason, but want to kill if they're holding wakelocks. (Like Facebook - that's the only app I kill after bootup at this point.) - Note, NEVER use an automatic task killer, and never use a task killer for memory management, only for killing wakelock holders.
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Why not use AutoStart?
It prevents FB from starting all together till you actually open it up.
I need to figure out how that app actually works then maybe I can modify it myself in the rom/apk.
I use Green Power and it has helped me get longer battery life. The only thing I have enabled in it is mobile data tweaking: Mobile data is turned on only for a minute and then turned off for 10 mins while the screen is off. It has settings to define day and night (11pm to 6am). Above toggling behavior happens only during day while screen is off. During night, mobile data is turned off completely. You can even go to airplane mode if you want to.
Using Llama, I simply set WiFi to go off when screen turns off and turn it back on when screen turns on.
I also use Llama to turn on bluetooth when the phone is ringing or when I am in a call. Bluetooth is then made to turn off when the call ends. I don't use bluetooth for music, so this setup works for me.
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LiLChris06 said:
Why not use AutoStart?
It prevents FB from starting all together till you actually open it up.
I need to figure out how that app actually works then maybe I can modify it myself in the rom/apk.
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I use the Titanium Backup Pro's freeze/defrost/launch widget to prevent FB from running in background. One click to defrost and launch it and another click to freeze it.
I use tasker. Very powerful program. Can tell your phone to do so much, whenever you chose. Since I am a lazy guy, I tell it to shut off data/wifi when screen is off. I also do things like disable Bluetooth after a certain time (don't need bluetooth while I am sleeping).
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=tasker
I use myprofiles. I use it to automatically turn off auto sync while I'm at work, and turn on airplane mode while I'm sleeping. I can get nearly 2 days with light to moderate usage.
I set it and forget it, never have to manually adjust settings. Different than juice defender, but works for me
cwc3 said:
I use tasker. Very powerful program. Can tell your phone to do so much, whenever you chose. Since I am a lazy guy, I tell it to shut off data/wifi when screen is off. I also do things like disable Bluetooth after a certain time (don't need bluetooth while I am sleeping).
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=tasker
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+1
I love tasker. Use it to turn on wifi when I'm near home, turn on GPS when I load up maps, and all types of other stuff.
Please explain me, I just dont understand the settings. What's the difference between 3 options: always, only when plugged in, never? I see that regardless of either option WIFI stays on during sleep. It is clearly seen from statistics. So what's the use of it?
Come on people, I can't believe nobody cares. Did I ask something stupid?
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Come on people, I can't believe nobody cares. Did I ask something stupid?
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well perhaps no one have seen your post.
anyway, i just saw that feature a while ago, and i think what it means is:
when your phone screen turns off (your phone is asleep because you're not using it), wifi connection gets disconnected -- to conserve battery.
the options are:
always (default) - will keep wifi connection turned on, no matter what
only wen plugged in - well, wifi connection will keep on ONLY when the device is plugged in.
never (increases data usage) - as soon as the device sleeps, it will disconnect from wifi, and possibly conneted to data network, hence the warning.
Moonsower said:
Please explain me, I just dont understand the settings. What's the difference between 3 options: always, only when plugged in, never? I see that regardless of either option WIFI stays on during sleep. It is clearly seen from statistics. So what's the use of it?
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1. Always on even if screen is off (DS WiFi ON)
2. Only when charging WiFi is still on (DS WiFi ON while connected to USB or AC charger and DS WiFi OFF when disconnected from external power source)
3. Never online while in deep sleep - disconnecting WiFi in Deep Sleep (DS WiFi OFF)
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Dear friends. Thank you for your replies but I suspect you didn't get the point. Again, regardless of one of these three settings WiFi is still ON during sleep. Try to set it to "never" (given that global WiFi switch is on of course, thus it should go to sleep along with device), disable your mobile data and run Skype for example. After your phone has fallen asleep you still online in Skype and available to receive calls. You're still on WIFI! It doesn't switch off when phone sleeps!
I know this is an old thread but did you manage to figure this out? This has recently been bugging me too. Thanks!
If wifi doesn't disconnect when it's set to "never", maybe your phone doesn't go to deep sleep properly.
It'd be good if we could read somewhere what this "deep sleep" really is..
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It'd be good if we could read somewhere what this "deep sleep" really is..
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Google it is always the best .
jje
jnr21 said:
If wifi doesn't disconnect when it's set to "never", maybe your phone doesn't go to deep sleep properly.
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I agree! phone may not go in deep sleep even after switching off screen.
And also also this question is really not stupid, but I say google is stupid, that he assume we have a data plan active always. I have wifi at home and office, so am not activating data plan. So I was having the same question/confusion about this option!
Keep wifi on during sleep -> never, so how come it increase data usage?? data means not data transferred through wifi but sim card internet!! Ha ha ha..
Google should clarify it that when phone is connected to wifi, it will not use sim card internet, but if wifi is off and mobile data plan is active, android will use sim card internet.
Also I'd like to add that wifi signal itself is not eating much memory, but in most of case, fb/gmail/google+/twitter etc which are always internet crazy (hungry) will not let your phone asleep. and they eat memory. if wifi is off then we can have two option, 3G and 2G phone internet. 3G signals eat more battery, and 2G internet use more battery because of slow speed.
Background activities option came in picture with invention of smart phone, but always misused by google+ and facebook!!!!
I always hate fb android app, it is too slow in 2G and surfing site in Opera mini is way too fast and handy, anyway that was my taste.
Take a look at green power app as this handles 3g/WiFi connectivity very well. Much better than juice defender
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