i'm thinking to buy Z2 but im worried about a couple of issues! - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot

I had the same problem and decided to buy the Z2. I have no problems with overheating whatever I do. Software is the best customized android out there. Better than sense or touchwiz. Idk how long it takes to fully charge but not very long at least not longer than on my m7
I would go for the z2. Awesome phone
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It doesnt overheat playing games or other stuff, only 4k recording. M8 is more comfortable in hand, z2 has better package overall.

j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Hello XperiaZ2 user switched from HTC One(m7) here! Overheating while you are playing game isn't a problem, it happens to all phone. (At least my HTC One did) And I am playing HD Youtube everyday but at least I don't get burnt, so it must be okay for you too. Also as 4k is new technology for smartphone, we have to understand it is still not perfect, some user reports that software update solve this overheating problem and I don't feel it too hot.
Yeah I couldn't choose between M8 and Z2 and OnePlus..... but finally I bought XperiaZ2. As they have better spec and price is lower than M8 and I wanted something funny! (Oneplus is good price and good spec, but it's too simple!) 
They have shatter proof glass It shouldn't break easily.(I dropped several times, but there is no crack and working fine!)
Yeah XperiaZ2 is really good phone I've used Xperia Z and HTC One(m7) yeah much better than these. I recommend you to go with Sony.

- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please

j_h3000 said:
- so you guys all agree that there is no overheat while playing games or some intensive apps ? at least not more than other phones right ?
one more question .. is it easy to scratch ? (does it require special care and should i be worried where and how i place it ?)
please be very honest and i would like to see more opinions please
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Okay. There is some heating but not as bad as overheating.
As they are using shatter proof glass I can't see scratch with out case and protector.
You take your time and think. Z3 might be coming in few months.... (it's what happend when I bought Xperia Z)

It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I have left the LG G2 for the Xperia Z2 and glad I did.
I would say it heats up less than the G2 when playing intensive games.
The only thing the G2 had that I wish the Z2 had is knock off. It has knock on, just can't turn off the screen with a double tap :/
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PiskopatYazar said:
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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I meant in daily use...... We don't use phone like that...

i've had my Z2 for about a week now and haven't noticed any excessive overheating. i've never had a smartphone that didn't heat up somewhat while playing games and i don't feel the Z2 is any worse than my HTC One M7 was. i prefer Sense's widgets and apps but the interface on the Z2 is quite nice and i am enjoying messing around with the camera. i think i can agree with the reviews in that the Z2 doesn't necessarily beat other phones in any one area but it is solid or even great in all areas. this is probably the first phone i've owned that has all the things i want (front-facing speakers, CAMERA BUTTON, and SD card) and doesn't compromise anywhere.

Conclude:
As HTC One(m7) and Z2 has different Concept so it can't simply compared. And they are different generation.... But I can definitely say Z2 is the one of the best smartphone I've ever had include my Smartphone from Japan..... Anyway you might get overheat problem but you can simply take it back to shop.... (do it before you messed it up with rooting!) As my latest phone is XperiaZ2 this opinion is bit biased, but still it's a good phone.... Some time I feel it big..... it might not be big problem if you are switching from G2....
Give it a try........ You'll love it. ( ・`ω・´)

There is heat on the Z2, but not 'Overheating'. Heats up just as much as any other smartphone out there when gaming. But doesn't get hot to the extent u can make barbecue or scramble eggs on it. And when u are not gaming, it is ice cool (at least, mine is). The Xperia Z2 is the best device i ever used, and i'm not even rooted yet. xD

I have to agree with a lot of the comments already posted.
The phone WILL heat up but it doesn't affect performance in any way.. and it's not excessively heating up more than any other smartphone would...
Also.. This is the first phone where I don't feel it's absolutely necessary to Unlock bootloader and root...
I have been unlocking and rooting all my previous phones because I felt it's essential to do so... S2, S3, Z, Z1...
LaMMi

j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Would suggest z2 without a doubt.
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j_h3000 said:
hello guys ... i am a proud owner of LG G2 ... one of the best phones i ever had ... and im willing to upgrade but im lost between S5 Z2 and One m8, and cant make my mind
i really love the concept of Z2 but im very worried because many people mentioned that they suffer over heating when playing games and shooting videos ... i know i wont be shooting 4k videos ... its just something that i dont need ... at least now .. but what about games and software ... does it really overheat and become uncomfortable to hold ?? what about charging time ... how long does it take to become fully charged ?
what would you recommend ?
especially that i tend to drop my phones alot
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Opinions are subjective. The choice is there. All the mobiles you mention are top models, 'Flag ships', in their brand and function extremely well. All are different and there is no such device as 'the best'. You need to discover what phone will fit your needs.
I change phones about twice a year, sometimes three times. I am a technophile, Its my hobby, my vice. My advice to you would be to see all the mobiles you mention, have a play and make YOUR choice.
I lean toward Sony at present and away from Samsung and HTC. I do this because I FIND the UI on the HTC and the Samsung's too heavy. I PREFERE the UI on the Sony brand. I do find the quality for a flag ship mobile to be well represented by both HTC and Sony. I prefer the Sony only through choice.
I have owned several HTC mobiles and I live out in the countryside where signal strength is poor. HTC so far have been one of the weakest in terms of being able to pick up a signal. The Sony and Samsung also LG have all been fine with Nokia being the most competent in terms of catching signal strength.
I sold my SG Note 3 within weeks. This was MY FAULT, I purchased the phone on pre sale order before I had the chance to even hold one. When I held it, after owning the Sony Xperia Z, I was bitterly disappointed with the phones plastic construction. Plastic leather back with plastic play stitching plus the plastic chrome sides? It just didn't give ME that quality buzz and pride of ownership. My Sony Z Ultra is a quality device that oozes class and quality of materials and construction, size is the problem there.
I now use the nexus 5 and the Sony Xperia Z ultra. I have ordered the Z2 last week and will sell the Nexus 5.
IF the Z2 is built to the same standards the Ultra and Z are then I shall be a very happy person. I miss the UI as the Nexus 5 is not serving my needs even though it also is a very fine mobile indeed.
Please don't read too many forums. If you took notice of the reports, reviews and posts you read on ANY forum you would never dare make another single purchase including the shoes on your feet. All the mobiles you mention are best buys for the owner. Its what your expectations are that counts not mine.
Let us know what you decide on purchasing. Good luck with what ever you buy I am sure you will enjoy your new mobile.
Regards, Ryland
Oh BTW is you seriously drop your phones a lot I would either insure you new phone or NOT purchase ANY phone that price. If you do purchase a flagship phone buy a case and screen saver plus insurance.

to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok

shaf46 said:
to be frank with you ,wait atleast for two more weeks then get the 14w20,21 batch it seems to be ok
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How would one ensure that they have this batch?

donalgodon said:
How would one ensure that they have this batch?
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check the batch number in the micro sd port information tray and get some information on the internet, right now im really fed up with sony im so upset that i wouldn't care anymore :/
Just wait mate don't buy it now

I came from a G2 as well, I'll say get whichever is cheaper. They're both about the same. HTC got better speakers and a big dev base (if that's important to you), Z2 has better camera and the waterproof aspect.
Apart from that, both got great battery life, screens are great, build quality great on both devices. Don't worry about the heat issue, anytime u push a phone it gets warm a bit

PiskopatYazar said:
It overheats if there are so many apps running in the background and when you shoot 4K videos.
Charging takes me over 4 hours I thought my charger was faulty but it wasn't I'm using my old samsung charger it takes around 3 hours.
I bought HTC One m8 for my partner and I'm jealous tbh. But I'm happy with my z2 as well. HTC One m8 feeling is a lot better in hand and camera is a lot faster.
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4hrs to charge?? That sucks..

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[Q] Does anybody regret buying the XPS?

Hi there.
Just as the title says. Im looking to buy one myself but wont to get a feel of what people are thinking about there decision to buy this device.
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Nah! Never regreted my purchase!
On the contrary, I have sent it for the "yellow tint" thingy service, and I already miss the poor [email protected]@rd!
Not a single day!
I recommend it :good:
No, this is the best smartphone I had. X10 and Arc was good ones but the XPS have it all. No more memory problem since it have more than enough.
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Compare the design among all other smart phones on the market, the answer is no. Not to mention its still one of those high end dual core devices these days
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Some days I regret that I got the XS and not the S3 cause of the settings available in ICS and some of the feature.
But then I look at the design and my XS makes me smile again.
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I wonder why people call it outdated phone!!!
if you looked at its hardware, the camera is one of the best (12mp), the screen is one of the best (HD), and it has NFC, just to mention few. tell me one things the xperia s lacks
and if you looked at its software, it is a bit late to the party but its running 4.0.4 (very few phones running this version).
the only thing that might be outdated is the chip ONLY, but with the smooth experience, you won't know that you are using 1 year old chip except from tech sites but not from your phone itself.
the power is not everything, with the xperia s, it is very smooth, while with the more powerful HTC one x, some people suffering some laggyness. well, there is no point of having 1000php truck while 300php porsche will beat it very easily . this doesn't mean I don't want more power, but for the current time, this is just enough for me.
Wellynz said:
Hi there.
Just as the title says. Im looking to buy one myself but wont to get a feel of what people are thinking about there decision to buy this device.
Cheers
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Oh! Another Kiwi! On the internet! :laugh:
I didn't regret it at all, even though I paid probably a fair bit more than most others to get my hands on mine. It was probably one of the first devices to land here (complete with the yellow screen issue - although mine only turns yellow when the phone heats up. I think some people got screens that stained yellow.)
Got mine at PB, I wanted to play with the phone hands-on before I bought and I figured it'd be a bit of a **** move to go into the store to try it and then buy it somewhere else for cheaper. I had to convince them to sell me their display model. I wanted the black one but they had that one on display, and an unopened white handset... but I wanted the black. I go to PB a lot anyway with electronics purchases for friends and family, so. Loyalty pays off!
They've dropped their price a lot since I snapped up my handset. I paid $950 GST Inc, which was a fair bit more than the Galaxy S II was going for at the time. Early adopter's tax :angel:
If you want it on contract with Vodafone, I've been told unofficially that the Xperia S should be available from them very soon.
the only thing I regret is the software! sony really has to do a better job with it's software...
the phone itself is great :victory:
Not one bit. Love it
Just a few things you must know....-
The worst battery life you will ever have on a smart phone.
touch capacitive buttons are not smooth....
lags a little
and other than that this phone is good
K900i said:
Just a few things you must know....-
The worst battery life you will ever have on a smart phone.
touch capacitive buttons are not smooth....
lags a little
and other than that this phone is good
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Worst battery life on smart phone? How many smart phone do u have? And on another note, xs can do fastcharging (provided u have the needed accessories). U got full battery in about 1 hr and 30 minutes.while some new smartphones need bout 3 hours. It even charge faster than my GT540.
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I got given my XPS by Sony!!
I would certainly purchase it if I hadn't have been given one the phone is amazing, it's fast it's smooth has great memory and the display is second to none....
I am a happy man
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K900i said:
Just a few things you must know....-
The worst battery life you will ever have on a smart phone.
touch capacitive buttons are not smooth....
lags a little
and other than that this phone is good
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Cant agree with the battery life . You can say it average at most but not "bad" .
Capacitive button is very sensitive on stock ICS . Try it .
Every phone will "lag little" it depend hows ur tolerant .
My opinion , best camera among android , clear and crispy screen , nice UI , stable os , multi function . Full statifice espicially on ICS stock .
Only lack of root without unlocking bootloader . Never regret .
Other than less sensitive capacitive bottoms and not satisfying battery life..... No not a single day I regret buying this amazing phone specially now that I updated my phone to ics I noticed an improvement in the sensitive of the capacitive bottoms and also improved the battery life noticeably that with the help of my recent purchase of JuiceDefender
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These capacitive buttons really sucks.. I'm looking for a patch to enable on-screen buttons, the physical ones are driving me crazy.
You should try a device first if you don't accept having to press the buttons more than once frequently.
I had no improvements on ICS regarding these capacitive buttons.
the only things that would make me regret, are:
The size, because operating it with one hand is not easy (touching top screen) But i think every other comparable phone is big or even bigger than the XPS
The sensitivity of the 3 capacitive buttons, exactly.. suck . and no it's not something you will just get used to, because you will only get used to used it in a different way so it still works... This only should have been a reason to fix before selling. but probably was too late.
but there is probable no better phone yet so.. :good:
m1st3r1 said:
Worst battery life on smart phone? How many smart phone do u have? And on another note, xs can do fastcharging (provided u have the needed accessories). U got full battery in about 1 hr and 30 minutes.while some new smartphones need bout 3 hours. It even charge faster than my GT540.
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well I don't know about others but I am coming from HTC Sensation XE- and trust me if I didn't use the phone at all (or while at night) , my phone could easily give 10 hours for just 1% with a custom rom....whereas in XS I still lose 6% on Ics
and 1 more thing is that...we used to have 100s of roms updated on daily basis so I could change to the rom which suited me / usage.......but here I have hardly seen 5 roms (thanks to krappbel) he is the only who developing usable roms sofar...
Many kernels mods and so on but here u are restricted to your Ics with a poor battery life.....even galaxys3 which released after xs have a couple of roms

So is it worth buying the GO ?

So after 2 years of having a rock solid Xperia X8 it's time for a new phone and the Xperia GO has had my eye on it.
I would love to swim with it :laugh: but the lady at the counter said that it's getting pulled from the market cause of its complains about loosing signal. I also saw something bad in general about the novathor chipset? I havent really dig up that much about it so I guess you guys could tell me if its still worth buying it.
If no - maybe recomend something in its price range? I would like to stick around with Sony...
Go for xp. I dont regrett it.
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xgo worth it, for getting jelly bean+ water resistant at its low price. I was able to swim with it. it doesn't lag much if you are rooted+ over clock+ seeder+ greenify. but you won't get much support from Sony in the future. and the camera is only at acceptable quality without shutter key which make taking picture underwater impossible without third party apps from market. sincerely if you wanted to get a water resistant phone with good quality and don't mind to pay about 3 time the price of an xgo, try to go for xperia Z or other new device from Sony
josie87 said:
Go for xp. I dont regrett it.
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I don't know if I could afford it. of course I'd love it, but I wanna hear what the owners of the GO have to say about the experiance so far
Personally think there are better phones than Go now. Like Xperia L.
i think acro S is quite cheap now. Its also waterproof.
I heard from other user that xgo has good battery life and most of them said good buy
I would recommend you to look for a better phone if you can, this one simply has too little RAM for anything above GB, making it struggle frequently to free up more space for new tasks. And with two updates to newer Android versions already out, it probably doesn't have much support left, if at all. To further compound that, the screen resolution is extremely low (so your on-screen keyboard is gigantic), slow GPS response - if at all, no GLONASS support, ST-Ericsson is no more so the NovaThor U8500 likely won't be supported beyond Android 4.1 (though this affects other phones as well, such as the Xperia P, U and sola).
tl;dr:
Go for something better, your dollars are better spent elsewhere, preferably on a device with at least 1 GB of RAM. Don't settle for less, you will regret it.
I also hated my GO before, but after the update, and some mods, I'm actually planning to hold on to it for a while longer. It just needs a lot of optimization, it may have 512mb of ram, but with great coders out there making efficient roms, it shouldn't be a problem. If you love waterproofing with decent specs for a good price, go ahead and get this.
josie87 said:
Go for xp. I dont regrett it.
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taboo5200 said:
I would recommend you to look for a better phone if you can, this one simply has too little RAM for anything above GB, making it struggle frequently to free up more space for new tasks. And with two updates to newer Android versions already out, it probably doesn't have much support left, if at all. To further compound that, the screen resolution is extremely low (so your on-screen keyboard is gigantic), slow GPS response - if at all, no GLONASS support, ST-Ericsson is no more so the NovaThor U8500 likely won't be supported beyond Android 4.1 (though this affects other phones as well, such as the Xperia P, U and sola).
tl;dr:
Go for something better, your dollars are better spent elsewhere, preferably on a device with at least 1 GB of RAM. Don't settle for less, you will regret it.
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Well I have the x8 witch is like 3 years old now, and I know the support thing with Sony, they only support ther top of the line phones. I have beared with 128mb of ram so far so i dont think 512 is teribble but yeah it probably could be a little more. the resolution I see is the same as mine with x8 so I probably won't be picky cause it's half bad.
But you state some good things out. I may consider the S maybe cause they don't have the new Z line ones here anyway. Something is just not letting me go with samsung or HTC. since Sony's phones in general have better trust then others.
i think dun waste ur money for XGo..juz go futher for new line of waterproof XPERIA like AcroS, V or Z if u wan to swim wif the device..
if u wan to use LTE, juz go for XV becoz Acro S is release a bit late from XV..btw both of this phone not a build from prob NovaThor U8500 chipset anymore..
its not worth to buy a XGo anymore coz i think the JB might last android version dat this phone can support..:highfive:
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I may consider the S maybe cause they don't have the new Z line ones here anyway.
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Actually, I would advise against getting any phones in the earlier 2012 line, in part due to the decreasing remaining support lifespan. XS still doesn't have the JB update yet, in fact (the last time I checked).
Bahurs1 said:
Something is just not letting me go with samsung or HTC. since Sony's phones in general have better trust then others.
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What I've heard are that HTC phones are insanely locked down with protection being done in hardware to deter modding attempts. Probably not worth the trouble (now do you finally realize how this ultimately costs you, HTC?).
Don't know too much about Samsung, though.
taboo5200 said:
Actually, I would advise against getting any phones in the earlier 2012 line, in part due to the decreasing remaining support lifespan. XS still doesn't have the JB update yet, in fact (the last time I checked).
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eh, I've been with the x8 for 2 years now and trust me it had even less suport then all of the 2012 line ones did. Dev's get creative thats why this is XDA I guess my other option would be (what they are offering) a samsung galaxy s duos. its cons are 2 sim cards and more memory (RAM) even though it has less userspace memory then the go. but the go had a better CPU and it's water proof? I personaly think that that the biggest plus over the other ones in it's range. Sure it sucks on the software, but thats tweekable and if its gonna last a while... I'm taking the GO unless they pull it out of the market faster then I can get it, then I'll probably take the duos I guess...
I like my Xperia Go a lot. The only downsides are the low screen resolution and lack of GLONASS support. When I bought it, it was the only good waterproof phone, and that was the reason I bought it. But maybe you shouldn't buy phones that are more than a year old.
1729 said:
I like my Xperia Go a lot. The only downsides are the low screen resolution and lack of GLONASS support. When I bought it, it was the only good waterproof phone, and that was the reason I bought it. But maybe you shouldn't buy phones that are more than a year old.
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Maybe, but they don't have the newer ones. people I asked about said that while it lack's on the hardware or software it's still a good phone and I think I can settle on a lower demand from it and probably the reason I can take a swim with it is the ultimate reason why I think I'm getting it.
I should be able to go and get it after 2-3 days so if anyone else has something to share please write it down and I'll read it
I love the facial expressions of people when I throw my phone. :thumbup: Shockproofing started with the Active and ended with the xGO. Its newer siblings didn't get that rating, if I'm not mistaken.
JB.400 xGO Rooted, Unlocked, Debloated, Greenified
androidmeda brought up a good point that I missed out - while this phone is dust tight and waterproof, it is not shockproof. Don't be misled by Sony's advertising campaign and assume that it is capable of withstanding drops - there's threads on Sony's support forum with pictures of the go's screen getting all shattered from drops.
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I love the facial expressions of people when I throw my phone. :thumbup: Shockproofing started with the Active and ended with the xGO. Its newer siblings didn't get that rating, if I'm not mistaken.
JB.400 xGO Rooted, Unlocked, Debloated, Greenified
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taboo5200 said:
androidmeda brought up a good point that I missed out - while this phone is dust tight and waterproof, it is not shockproof. Don't be misled by Sony's advertising campaign and assume that it is capable of withstanding drops - there's threads on Sony's support forum with pictures of the go's screen getting all shattered from drops.
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Yeah I noticed something about the screen. it looked quite thin to be called "shockproof". The active is able to withstand hits, but I think taking a swim with a phone is cooler then throwing it of the roof :laugh: But they never offered the Active here (well, atleast my carrier didn't) so I think its durability is good enough. after all... they did present it with a hit to the ground as the first feature in the ad.
Indeed it is - there's barely any raised border around the screen to keep the glass from smashing into stuff at full impact (and that's typically how screen shatters occur). My own go has taken about a one meter fall onto its back on a hard concrete floor, but it seems unscathed from that (thankfully!). I was actually expecting the back cover to be scratched, but there were none of such marks. Don't plan on trying that again anytime soon, though. Had it fallen on its screen, though... I'd probably be looking at a fairly costly repair (I don't know if the warranty covers cases like this), along with a ridiculously long downtime since Sony support apparently takes eons for repairs.
Oh, and you might want to look into getting a screen protector too, that "mineral glass" doesn't seem any more durable than the average screen, plus it seems to make the screen darker. And since we're on this topic, take note that the dark glass also negatively impacts the ambient light sensor's sensitivity - my go's sensor readings barely breach 10 while I'm at home with my room light on (in contrast, my P's sensor readings varied from 10 to 150 in the same room with the same conditions).
Tossed maybe should be a better term? It's not invincible but it does take a beating. Or maybe I'm just lucky it hasn't shattered by this time.
JB.400 xGO Rooted, Unlocked, Debloated, Greenified
Haha, I think you're lucky since that screen is really close to the surface. Or perhaps yours just has nine lives.

[Q] Can Sony be trusted?

Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
Same boat as you. Last sony I had was the standard Sony X10. It was awful. Hated every minute of it. Was not as bad as my nokia 5800 I owned before it though.
Phones since then have been the galaxy S2, galaxy S3, now the LG G2 (best phone so far), and now pre ordered the X2. It looks amazing, and am very excited about it. Might not have it long as im planning (stupidly maybe) to take it to my 3yr old sons swimming lessons and get some underwater video footage of him as he loves swimming underwater! Think the slow motion feature will look amazing. So hoping Sony really is true to their word on it being waterproof
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Well, after using some 9 Sony phones I believe this is the only brand which can be trusted so well. In fact I went a step ahead to import their Xperia Ray when it came out some 2 and a half years ago(means no warranty). Not a single issue still, it has fallen face down, been in contact with water, thrown against the wall and it still works with a scratch! Of course, I had to change its battery twice tho, both times after it fell or I threw it in anger, as the battery went a little fluffy and back plate wouldn't completely lock into its place. Recently got the third battery.
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Good to know, haha. I'm not really into throwing 100's of euros worth of smartphones into the wall though. Being unemployed really makes you contain your anger and focus it on something else, lol. :silly:
Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Trusted? not really.
Let say this, the quality of the materials is without questioning but with the Software they screwed us from day one on Z1 and with the release of KitKat 4.4 they compleated the mess, which is the worst OS seen on Z1, with all the restrictions.
I own Z1 and now is not worth to sell it to buy the Z2 but everybody who did not buy Z1 I recommend to get Z2 as it is very well improved.
So I think even is Sony cannot be fully trusted I think you will not have regrets to buy Z2.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, if I will not have Z1 I will go for it too.
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Well seeing how Slimesung failed with the S5 (they even managed to mess TW up even more, lol. Uglier and STILL lagging) and HTC failed with the M8 in my eyes (they could have put in a higer MP camera...), the Z2 is the only interesting phone out there, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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I find the Z2 beautiful as well!
LG? Hah. I have no love for LG. They have pretty much always messed upp software wise. Just look at the kitkat update for the G2...
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I agree with you, at least HTC have tried something different, that vould be classed as usefull, dual camera, its definately, and could be useful. I mean come on, a heartbeat monitor, seriously!! I loved my S2 and my S3. The S4 just did not offer enough to make me change, and my anticipation for the S5 was so high. I was convinced I was getting the S5!!
My partner is now asking why im getting a sony after saying I was going to get the S5 for so long. Well darling, its because it is sh.........
The Z2 is definately the best phone available at the moment, and strangely, I find it beautiful! I really cant wait to own it and (geniunly) go swimming with it (im planning on doing a video of my 3yr old at his swimming lesson).
Still, phone of the year I think in my opinion will be...........the LG G3!
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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To be fair i though that on release of kit kat on G2, however I have flashed version 20b on it and suffer no problems whatsoever, I know its not officially release in Uk, but hey, thats why im on xda
I have no experience of Sony updates as if yet so cant comment here with an opinion yet. I know im going to love the Z2, the only thing that worries me is battery, but im hoping with a 3200 battery it will last the day as my G2 does with extreme heavy use.
On a side note, i bloody hate pre ordering phones, hate waiting, have zero patience with things like that at least when my phone does come i will have a new shiny sony tv being delivered for free shortly after, nice bonus considering I would have got the Z2 regardless. Samsung, hang your heads in shame :what:
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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You do know Sony aren't offering a TV, right? It's all on Vodafone UK, mate. Don't wanna defend Samsung, just wanna get the facts out.
Besides, if the battery turns out to be a little on the downside on the stock rom, I'm sure you could flash something that improves the battery. That's why we're on XDA.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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Well to be fair its actually Sony doing the promotion, just through Vodafone, which luckily for me I am on.
TV Offer: Promoter, Sony Mobile Communications. First 3000 eligible pre-orders only before 09.04.14. TV can only be redeemed after first bill payment, between 08.05.14 to 08.07.14. Airtime agreement required. Excludes business customers, except small business (1-4 connections). TV offer Ts&Cs at vodafone.co.uk/sonyxperia
Soon as you recieve tv vodafone dont want to know. Hopefully this means that vodafone are one of the 'trusted partners' that will get the phone on release.
And yes your right on the battery side, but always better to get it running good from stock first as a good base to build on. I am hoping to be honest that people really do decide to avoid the Samsung, not because I hate them as I dont, but because I want them to pull something special out of the bag for the S6. The S3 was such a special phone and I loved it, still holds its own now, especially with a custom rom.
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I stand corrected
Yeah the battery is important nevertheless
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Don't worry Guys, the battery of Z2 is just massive, I got a hell of day with Z1 and I cannot complain, with Z2 it will be even better.
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Hey guys. I'm currently using an HTC One and I'm thinking of buying the Xperia Z2 in June. The last Sony phone I used was the X10 Mini and haven't used a Sony since. I wasn't at all impressed by the new HTC One or the Galaxy S5, so basically the only phone left that's even remotely interesting would be the Xperia Z2.
Which brings me to my question: Can Sony be trusted? I have read about several issues with their phones.
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yeah there was few problem on xperia z, z1 but it doesn't mean no can trust giant tech manufacture; SONY
But u should w8 for reviews & also users feedback
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it s available in East Asia anyone have it?

An honest reply, please: How good is this phone?

I recently got to try one out. I loved its look and build. UI's pretty smooth. Display's really good, a major improvement from previous Z iterations. However, 5-10 minutes of tinkering isn't sufficient enough to get a good idea. So, do tell me: How good is this phone? In particular, how's the battery life? Are there any issues with overheating? I look forward to an honest reply.
I love it. My biggest issue is that the touch screen is too sensitive to sweat, and on a hot day the phone can make my hands sweat pretty bad! Battery life is totally amazing. I came from the Nexus 5 (which had better battery life then the N4)
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I recently got to try one out. I loved its look and build. UI's pretty smooth. Display's really good, a major improvement from previous Z iterations. However, 5-10 minutes of tinkering isn't sufficient enough to get a good idea. So, do tell me: How good is this phone? In particular, how's the battery life? Are there any issues with overheating? I look forward to an honest reply.
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This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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I love it. My biggest issue is that the touch screen is too sensitive to sweat, and on a hot day the phone can make my hands sweat pretty bad! Battery life is totally amazing. I came from the Nexus 5 (which had better battery life then the N4)
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The sensitive touch screen bug is sorted in the new firmware.
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This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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Well i am using LG G3 right now. But kinda attracting towards the design of xperia z2. Since u have used both phones..can u please explain that on which areas the z2 is better and on which areas lg g3 is better? Thanks
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Well i am using LG G3 right now. But kinda attracting towards the design of xperia z2. Since u have used both phones..can u please explain that on which areas the z2 is better and on which areas lg g3 is better? Thanks
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I prefer the design of the G3 to the Z2.
Its only my personal opinion but I find the G3 to be laggy and the frame rate during animations to be low. My G3 also overheated and I had to get a replacement. I think the software and hardware is buggy. I believe the S801 is not up to producing the QHD display and it needs the power of an S805. After 2 weeks of use I returned my G3.
The Z2 uses almost the same GPU and CPU as the G3 (2.3Ghz Vs 2.5Ghz CPU same GPU) but only has to render 1080 so is faster and smoother. The G3 also thermal throttled a lot in my experience which made the performance worse.Battery life is also better on the Z2.
I should say ive only been using the Z2 for a week so problems may come later.
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I prefer the design of the G3 to the Z2.
Its only my personal opinion but I find the G3 to be laggy and the frame rate during animations to be low. My G3 also overheated and I had to get a replacement. I think the software and hardware is buggy. I believe the S801 is not up to producing the QHD display and it needs the power of an S805. After 2 weeks of use I returned my G3.
The Z2 uses almost the same GPU and CPU as the G3 (2.3Ghz Vs 2.5Ghz CPU same GPU) but only has to render 1080 so is faster and smoother. The G3 also thermal throttled a lot in my experience which made the performance worse.Battery life is also better on the Z2.
I should say ive only been using the Z2 for a week so problems may come later.
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Thanks a lot for a detailed reply. I have heard that xperia z3 is also just around the corner. So what do u think..wait for the z3 or go with the z2? Or just keep lg g3?
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Thanks a lot for a detailed reply. I have heard that xperia z3 is also just around the corner. So what do u think..wait for the z3 or go with the z2? Or just keep lg g3?
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In the end its personal choice, the phone I might love you might hate.
The G3 might get great software updates, it might not. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 will probably be released in a few months also and I'm sure they will be great also.Its really up to you.
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In the end its personal choice, the phone I might love you might hate.
The G3 might get great software updates, it might not. The Note 4 and Nexus 6 will probably be released in a few months also and I'm sure they will be great also.Its really up to you.
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Thanks a lot man. I guess I'll wait another couple of months to see what's new in stores.
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Read my full review here, then decide - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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Read my full review here, then decide - https://www.dropbox.com/s/mpxhmrbqc7dy6nk/Xperia Z2 FULL Review.txt
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I have very similar RGB values to yours and everyday I look at the display and think WOW its so crisp and white. Love it!
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I have very similar RGB values to yours and everyday I look at the display and think WOW its so crisp and white. Love it!
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Lol. Yes. Works good! I'm on CM now tho. And everything is smooth sailing.
(Hot) & Sexy Phone
Hello,
Its been around 2 Months with this phone,
I am a die hard fan of Sony.
My feedback on this phone is....
-> Its amazingly Fast
-> Battery lasts for around 1.5 days of very heavy usage.
-> Sound Quality from Speakers - Not much loud - Not much low. - 50% 50%
-> Camera - Most of the time it produces great images, but sometimes I fail to understand what went wrong.
-> Screen is gorgeous, can't take my eyes away.
-> Overall design of the phone is - as usual - Fantastic, very sexy look.
I have only 2 problem with this phone.
-> Outside in the sun, Camera shuts off even while taking normal snaps - Heating Problem
-> Extra sensitive screen, it records touch of almost everything, although its nice but sometimes it creates problems.
Do any one compare Sony Xperia Z2 & Samsung Galaxy S5 G900F ?
My last 3 phones were the Note 3, Find7a, and Z2. I gave the Note3 to the wife, sold the Find7a, and rock the Z2. I am a fan of >5.5" screens so I'm sacrificing a little with the Z2 there but it has enough of the "complete package" for me. There is no perfect phone on the market imo currently. I'd like a 5.7" waterproof Nexus with a microSD card but they don't make those soo...
You want a honest reply ?
Okay. The phone is great indeed!
Although the speakerphone is low. Microphone is low too. I have to shout when I send voice messages thru WhatsApp.
Just buy
An Honest reply : this phone is cursed! always stuck at my hand wherever i go. I cant seem to let it go. It's a curse! save yourself! I cant divert my eyes! Help Me!... arggghhhh!!
seriously, this phone is amazing, battery life? I'm not constantly worries about charging anymore. I can play ingress for 3-4 hours and still got juice left. RECOMMENDED
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This year I've owned the Nexus5, LG G3, M8 and the Z2. I would say for best all round performance and features the Z2 is the best flagship. The M8 is a close second but it has a poor camera. The Z2 is smooth and fast, has a good large long lasting battery, a good camera and a great adjustable crisp display.There is overheating when using the 4k video recording after around 10-20min but not in normal use for me. Its not perfect but its the best I've used this year.
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As an HTC Fanboy who has also been able to use all of these mention phones, as well as the OnePlus One, iPhone 5S and Galaxy S5 (I work in telecommunications so i didn't own all of these phones, but I did get to use them all for at least 3 weeks) i have to agree with this statement.
Here's what Ive discovered about both the Z2 and M8: Both phones can be argued to be the best phones. Having 2 kids and taking most my pictures both in doors and poor lighting, I actually prefer the faster shutter speed of the HTC M8. I don't take macro shots of flowers, however I know many people do this as well as landscapes. (also in HTCs favor is the much much bigger development communitry) But that's beside the point. The M8 and Z2 are the 2 best phones available at the moment and then there is a HUGE, disparaging drop off between these 2 phones and the 3rd and 4th best phones (the OnePlus and LG G3).
So what sets these 2 phones apart from the rest of the 800 class snapdragon phones? Software. Sony, HTC and Motorola (but they don't count because technically their flagship is midrange) are so far a head of the competition that i have to say i have never seen such a disparity between what I consider tier 1 and tier 2 phones.
But I think the Z2 is the phone of the year over the M8 by just a hair, because despite the M8 having the better software of the 2, Sony's is good enough that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Actually most people wouldn't appreciate the snappiness of the M8. So the Z2 wins out in my opinion due to the superior hardware with the extra RAM, MPs, dedicated camera button, etc. The first 2 devices I tried this year were the Z2 and M8. And now at the end of the Spring releases, here I am back with the Z2 as my personal phone and the M8 as my work phone. And I couldn't be happier. I can tell you I definitely appreciate the Z2 and M8 so very much more now that I've used the S5, 5s, OnePlus, and G3.
You'd be crazy not to take either of these phones. But if you have a choice, grab the Z2. It's the more exciting of the 2.
Really want to get this phone but camera overheat issue in sunlight is worrying me a little.
If it overheats only while recording 4K videos then i don't care, but if it does so while taking Auto mode 8MP snaps as well then it is a big turn off.
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As an HTC Fanboy who has also been able to use all of these mention phones, as well as the OnePlus One, iPhone 5S and Galaxy S5 (I work in telecommunications so i didn't own all of these phones, but I did get to use them all for at least 3 weeks) i have to agree with this statement.
Here's what Ive discovered about both the Z2 and M8: Both phones can be argued to be the best phones. Having 2 kids and taking most my pictures both in doors and poor lighting, I actually prefer the faster shutter speed of the HTC M8. I don't take macro shots of flowers, however I know many people do this as well as landscapes. (also in HTCs favor is the much much bigger development communitry) But that's beside the point. The M8 and Z2 are the 2 best phones available at the moment and then there is a HUGE, disparaging drop off between these 2 phones and the 3rd and 4th best phones (the OnePlus and LG G3).
So what sets these 2 phones apart from the rest of the 800 class snapdragon phones? Software. Sony, HTC and Motorola (but they don't count because technically their flagship is midrange) are so far a head of the competition that i have to say i have never seen such a disparity between what I consider tier 1 and tier 2 phones.
But I think the Z2 is the phone of the year over the M8 by just a hair, because despite the M8 having the better software of the 2, Sony's is good enough that most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Actually most people wouldn't appreciate the snappiness of the M8. So the Z2 wins out in my opinion due to the superior hardware with the extra RAM, MPs, dedicated camera button, etc. The first 2 devices I tried this year were the Z2 and M8. And now at the end of the Spring releases, here I am back with the Z2 as my personal phone and the M8 as my work phone. And I couldn't be happier. I can tell you I definitely appreciate the Z2 and M8 so very much more now that I've used the S5, 5s, OnePlus, and G3.
You'd be crazy not to take either of these phones. But if you have a choice, grab the Z2. It's the more exciting of the 2.
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Agreed, the Z2 and M8 aren't perfect but they're the best phones of the year so far by quite a long way.
As not fanboy but realist I can say after many sony phones (j70, z5, z7, xperia: S, Z, Z1, Z Ultra) z2 is really good phone with premium finish and ultra stability ...stereo speakers, lovely display, amazing headphone hole and pretty good camera make this phone almost perfect ...paired with smartwatch sw2 and few other things (sbh20 sbh80 mbh10 qed uplay and kef m200) and connected to smart house system z2 can become part of you ...not as before with other phones I can't say nothing bad about it

Whats so Special about the Xperia z2?....

I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
You cant judge an entire Brand off of one defective Unit
I have never had overheating from 4k
I never have overheating from gaming
The camera is perfectly fine, it isnt perfect in low light but not many phones can do as good as Z2
Self cracking glass? I dont understand how this posible, glass nor aluminum does not expand nor shrink enough to cause self cracking
Spaces, what spaces?
Yes on my previous defective unit had all these problems but since that defective device was replaced i have had no issues at all
Abdl said:
I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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You are too naive on this issue. Z2 isn't a bad device in any aspect. True, u have got a defective piece. But that doesnt make everyone else has. I'll answer all your questions.
1. Spaces are coz of defective units. Every manufacturers have this defective units problem when the demand for the phone is higher. You saw iPhone6(bendgate), S5(Overheating and some more), etc.
2. Self cracking? Hardly that's an issue. I haven't seen that in common. Its a rare issue which is likely to occur only @worst case scenarios.
3. My Z2 only heats up when Camera/Games are running, which is normal on any phone. Need i remind u other devices are bulky and include heat sinks which reduce heating and all Xperia's are slimmer than any other brand compared and yet built tough to survive. All slim phones heat more, but in Sony i have never seen an issue caused of heating(Been using Sony mobiles since 2011).
4. About 4k recording, last time i tested 4k i was able to hit 67 mins with custom thermal settings and was using DoomKernel on 314 fw. Device was on 67 degrees max. Still nothing happened. All devices that support 4k heats n this feature can be only used for a temporary time, provided Sony gave max time of usage of 4k.
5. Call problems? Again, since u might hv had a defective unit, the speaker might be faulty or u might have done something wrong with some mods installation or something.
6. About the Camera, PLS LEARN TO USE MANUAL SETTINGS. All phones in Auto mode SUCKS BIG TIME. Even the phones with best camera's. Manual Settings gives u the best results. Ask any professional photgrapher and prove me wrong(I challenge u). BTW i have seen Z2 producing best camera results after Lumia(The one with 41mp). If u doubt me, look at this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
Tell me all those snaps by our Z2 users are LAME.. :silly:
Like Envious_Data said, u cant judge an entire brand jus coz of a defective unit. U might be a lil unlucky, but that doesnt mean SONY isn't a good brand. From my experience, Sony has been the PREMIUM device manufacturer unlike most of the brands.. I suggest u do a lot of reading and do a lot of research and experiment with ur device b4 erasing it off..
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I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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-Yes, the spaces are real problem as Sony is already guilty about this from the previous phones. Luckily mine does not have any but that does not change the fact that they exist on many phone
- No idea about that one as I only read 1-2 things about it and never faced it in reality (me, my brother and my sister's husband bought 3 Z2s together and than my sister got an Z3 and none had any problems so far, so no experience on this one)
-Overheating is not an issue about daily usage or even heavy usage. It only matters on video recording because when video recording not only CPU cores and GPU being used at the same time but also camera processor (I don't know how this one is called) is heavily working to "catch" all that detail (simply taking 30, 4MP photos every single second and has to catch the light and decide for each pixel). Other than that I have not witnessed overheating cousing disconfort or slowing to phone down (I tried playing games more than 2 hours).
- Again, I haven't experienced this either. So no comments here.
- Camera software is really good actually, every setting is there but raw format. Only bothering thing is the AI which is supposed to choose the right settings. It behaves too "human-like" and "emotional" thus resulting some unrealistic color reproduction sometimes. So if you have time (Hope it's not a bird that you are trying to catch) and patience, it's best to make manual setting.
Anyway, apart from the subjects you mention, Let's compare what the "rivals" offer;
LG: there is G3. unnecessarily high screen resolution with a result that is not any better than Sony's screen thus also resulting worse battery life and more waste of GPU power. Although I like the design, and the placement of the buttons to the back side, very much; Sony has more premium materials and better camera with better results against the OIS, laser focusing camera of LG's.
Besides, G3 comes with two different amounts of RAM which makes me take the company as "disturbingly arrogant after the succesfull Nexus 4,5 and G2 and quickly forgot the days that they were punished by the customers' wallets because of locked bootloader of Optimus G and other unsuccesfull phones". Still, they choose to make things harder for developers after a very developer friendly G2. I believe there is no match in this land to Sony.
HTC; One (M8). HTC has been trying to bring some changes to the game since long time with their Beats Audio and other audio projects. They also tried to change things in the camera section too. I can't say they are doing bad things but I believe 20.7MP is still has higher capability of catching the light better than dual 4MP, bigger pixel camera. And I also believe (and tested) Sony's sound capabilities are better than HTC's when it comes to headphones (which is what is really important for a true music lover in my opinion. Who can truly enjoy the music from a mobile devices speakers? Want real music, use the jack)
On the chipset performance section, One (M8) is still not a rival to Sony's Z2. Not talking about the battery, it's 2600MAh.
Besides (I don't know if things are different from my One X days) HTC devices come with an extra security to try to prevent you from unlocking bootloader and saving themselves when they need to honor the warranty. After losing my patience over my One X's waiting for an S-OFF solution, I run away from HTC and never looked back (I can't even consider Nexus 9, thinking Nvidia and HTC coming together is like another Saw movie, it scares me). In a world even jailbreaking is legal that is too much for an Android user to accept.
Let's come to Motorola/Google; Nexus 6. It's a great rival, an honorable one. And maybe the only one with the ability of putting a real fight. Still, with that 6" screen it's not everyones cup of cake. Design and the specs are gorgeus, so is the screen. But it's big. I came to Xperia Z2 after a long time Note 2, then Nexus 4 usage and it feels right with 5.2" screen. This one is about preferences though, not the actual spec comparison.
Nexus 6 becomes a real deal with it's AMOLED screen (not calibrated by Samsung thankfully), water ressistance, best CPU&GPU and it's cutting edge software. However, when it comes to one-hand compatibility, MicroSD card expantion chance, camera and soudn quality Sony still has it's advantages.
And finally Samsung; S5 and Note 4. I guess I should take Note 4 into account as it's newer and better. Samsung has fingerprint sensor as different from it's rivals. A nice one to accept.
I understand that Samsung is a hardware making company. So they have to create and sell their hardwares and it's easy to see Quallcomm dominated the market since the Nexus 4 attack. Google did this to unify the market. Since the S4 Pro evey Quallcomm chipset has great similarities on their softwares and drivers, mostly their performance vary. This helps developers to measure their fresh-written apps/games on 1 or 2 devices and easily make sure they will run on many devices out there. It sounds good right? Well, Samsung is always bringing their SoCs to the market and always trying to push the limits (sometimes by cheating on benchmarks). On the raw power side, that could seem as a good thing but on the software side it messes things. As a big part of the market, almost every developer has the feeling to make their game/app compatible with Samsung devices. But they come with different SoCs and Samsung refuses to share their own chipsets' source codes. So they just make everything harder for developers. I guess we all know that a well optimised software is always better than the highest hardware.
One more thing about Samsung, they are first company to open their bootloaders to the public and shared every necessary code on their Galaxy S days. This is how they got so respected and made all that money. So they still have the unlocked bootloader but with some ir-reversable flagging system that flags you if you alter anything as small as a rooting attempt to your system. And then, they claim you out of warranty. Besides, as they refuse to share their source codes for their hardware, most developers have really hard time preparing custom ROMs or early fixes etc. for Samsung phones. So basically, Samsung tells you that "you have a phone which comes with an unlocked bootloader so you can do whatever you want with it.........If you can"
If you are a fan of Samsung's software and policy than it's a good semi-independent eco system in Android world. The S-Pen is also good. However I can not take them anymore after the Note II's hard days, waiting for a simply working AOSP ROM.
I know there are other Android companies but these are best-known ones globally and after that comparison I believe Xperia Z2 started to seem better in your eyes. If still not, I can also remind you;
-Sony is the only company which update kernels too,
-Sony is the only company which provides the AOSP code for their devices (the other compaines rather selling their devices as GPEs but apperiently Google has taken this idea down)
-Xperia Z2 has the best music experience throught the headphones among it's rivals
-One of the best (If not best) cameras out there
-Has that DRM keys problem for the "discoverer" people like us but thanks to our developers there is cure to that.
Let me start by saying You guys got me abit wrong. I didn't write all that based solely on my personal experience with the phone. Trust me,I've done some good research and found out that vast majority of the issues encountered with by the xz2 users revolve around all these problems. I understand my phone could be one of the defective units sold,so you saying that the thousands of users who complain about the same set of problems in different forums all bought the defective units? I dont think that would make any sense.
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4. About 4k recording, last time i tested 4k i was able to hit 67 mins with custom thermal settings and was using DoomKernel on 314 fw. Device was on 67 degrees max. Still nothing happened. All devices that support 4k heats n this feature can be only used for a temporary time, provided Sony gave max time of usage of 4k.
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What if i dont wanna customize the thermal settings or play around with kernels? Does that mean i cant get same results as yours?? Besides,I(and im sure many people) wont buy a phone like this just to start tempering with stuff!!
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5. Call problems? Again, since u might hv had a defective unit, the speaker might be faulty or u might have done something wrong with some mods installation or something.
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I dont think the call problems i faced have anything to do with the mic,as ive stated,i solved the problem by simply flashing a custom rom(eXistenZ) into it. But Hey! Not everyone would want to root their phones or flash a custom rom just to fix the basic function of a phone!!
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6. About the Camera, PLS LEARN TO USE MANUAL SETTINGS. All phones in Auto mode SUCKS BIG TIME. Even the phones with best camera's. Manual Settings gives u the best results.
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You're definitely wrong about this! Not every's phone Auto Mode sucks. Coz iPhone's Auto Mode doesnt suck as much as it does on xz2,(not comparing iOS with Android by any chance)and trust me,it produces some descent shots for the on-the-go photographer like me who wouldn't want/have to temper with manual settings,perhaps i dont know much about it
One thing most of you fail to realize is that an ideal smartphone should aim at satisfying both the average users and the Know-How guys like me and you
And Oh! Does Anybody know how i can reduce the intensity of incoming call vibration on this phone?? Its more like an earthquake
It's a little annoying you created this thread and expect people to agree points substantiated with poor arguments? So what's go great of the S5? Exploding batteries, laggy UI?! M8, the "awesome" camera???
Everyone phone has its flaws, but sadly, the those mentioned for the Z2 are mostly invalid. Overheating won't happen unless you use 4k. Dropped my phone numerous times and not a single scratch on my the glass panel. My unit screen is aligned accurately. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this thread? Or you're a keyboard warrior paid by Samsung?
And how old are you? Your post is riddled with smileys and stuff. If you find this discussion funny, please do not start this thread, you're wasting everyone's time. And your best friend mocked you because he presumed the iPhone takes better photos than the Z2 (not true)?? Such maturity.
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Abdl said:
Let me start by saying You guys got me abit wrong. I didn't write all that based solely on my personal experience with the phone. Trust me,I've done some good research and found out that vast majority of the issues encountered with by the xz2 users revolve around all these problems. I understand my phone could be one of the defective units sold,so you saying that the thousands of users who complain about the same set of problems in different forums all bought the defective units? I dont think that would make any sense.
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The thing is Sony started to manufacture phones themselves since Z2 and before that they had a client tied up manufacturing the units. Since they started their own, they had a setback, a lot of defective Z2 units and Sony did agree to replace the defective ones with a proper unit and they did(One of our RC's got his Z2 replaced like 4 times). So when u get a proper unit, u won't be seeing any of these issues. All Z2's having batch nos til 14w21 are defective in one or the other way. Some are major defective and some are minor. Batches after 14w25 are clean as a whistle, aka no defects even if u search with a magnifying glass.
What if i dont wanna customize the thermal settings or play around with kernels? Does that mean i cant get same results as yours?? Besides,I(and im sure many people) wont buy a phone like this just to start tempering with stuff!!
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I am on a non-rooted phone right now. Still 4k ran for half hour without problems. Although u don't seem to accept the fact that 4k is still kinda in the initial phase of the mobile market. Smartphones require more improvements which will come in the near future.
I dont think the call problems i faced have anything to do with the mic,as ive stated,i solved the problem by simply flashing a custom rom(eXistenZ) into it. But Hey! Not everyone would want to root their phones or flash a custom rom just to fix the basic function of a phone!!
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Call problem hasn't been a problem on any Z2 i have seen so far. 8 of my friends have bought a Z2 ever since they saw mine. None of them complained any of the issues u faced. Plus Call clarity is better than other phones that i have compared.
You're definitely wrong about this! Not every's phone Auto Mode sucks. Coz iPhone's Auto Mode doesnt suck as much as it does on xz2,(not comparing iOS with Android by any chance)and trust me,it produces some descent shots for the on-the-go photographer like me who wouldn't want/have to temper with manual settings,perhaps i dont know much about it
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Android doesn't support RAW exif until Android 5.0. With Lollipop, Image processing changes drastically. But for the better of the performance. Although i disagree with u on this. I even linked u to the pictures thread, did u see it? Did u see atleast 10 pages? I was impressed by the Z2's Camera capability even with 4.4.4(KitKat). On any phone, Auto Mode isn't recommended. Manual Settings are a MUST. If u say otherwise, then the whole photography concept is WRONG. (Which isn't). Even average users use Manual Settings pal, no one uses Auto mode anymore unlike very few.
One thing most of you fail to realize is that an ideal smartphone should aim at satisfying both the average users and the Know-How guys like me and you
And Oh! Does Anybody know how i can reduce the intensity of incoming call vibration on this phone?? Its more like an earthquake
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Again, you're able to notice issues nobody else have. Vibration intensity? Its more than normal. Its like 10% of what my Nokia 3310 caused. Now that's what u call an Earthquake, Z2 is fine. If u feel otherwise, you should consider selling it and go for other brands. That's my suggestion. But i'm pretty sure you're gonna come back to Xperia section itself. You should do more research and find facts unlike some sites only provide false stats n reviews.
lee480 said:
It's a little annoying you created this thread and expect people to agree points substantiated with poor arguments? So what's go great of the S5? Exploding batteries, laggy UI?! M8, the "awesome" camera???
Everyone phone has its flaws, but sadly, the those mentioned for the Z2 are mostly invalid. Overheating won't happen unless you use 4k. Dropped my phone numerous times and not a single scratch on my the glass panel. My unit screen is aligned accurately. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this thread? Or you're a keyboard warrior paid by Samsung?
And how old are you? Your post is riddled with smileys and stuff. If you find this discussion funny, please do not start this thread, you're wasting everyone's time. And your best friend mocked you because he presumed the iPhone takes better photos than the Z2 (not true)?? Such maturity.
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Totally agree with that bro @lee480
Kinda useless if you ask me, why such people open new threads like this, they can read the specs and informations on google but for some it is hard to find and it is also useless to compare different devices like Sony v.s. Samsung or any other brand with eachother, every device have his own abilities, so if some dont like the Xperia Range step then over to another one, so they dont have to bother us with they frustrations, simple as that !
Sony is just the best in my eyes and i use it for years and i see and feel the improvements what they bring to us and i dont have any complainings on that.
Sony rocks !!
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
I switch from nexus 5 to z2 hopin it will be on higher ends of things but it turn out to be worse tha N5. The only pro it has over N5 is the screen size and battery life. The camera on z2 is awful. I can take my N5 out and take pics with perfect clarity and brightness in dark restaurant. With my z2, it takes yellowish pictures and dark front camera. I wish I never brought it and now im stuck with it
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I switch from nexus 5 to z2 hopin it will be on higher ends of things but it turn out to be worse tha N5. The only pro it has over N5 is the screen size and battery life. The camera on z2 is awful. I can take my N5 out and take pics with perfect clarity and brightness in dark restaurant. With my z2, it takes yellowish pictures and dark front camera. I wish I never brought it and now im stuck with it
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I admit the z2 camera sucks compared to like the s5 or note 4 or even the g3 in some cases, but against the nexus 5? I am beginning to question your eyesight.
No need to force everyone to agree with your perception. U can sell your device and get a new one, buy the iPhone if u like the features of the Apple. Its so annoying if u keep complaining and forcing people to agree with your logic. Get a life, smartphone is not everything.
+1 @yuskhayru said pretty much what i was going to say
Honnestly Xperias Rival Nokia in terms of camera quality
I have only seen 2 brands truly suprize me with quality and i just mentioned them
Im also dead sick of seeing all this repetitive complaining about silly thing.
If you have a defective unit, Have it replaced.
If you dont like your phone, sell it and buy another.
Abdl said:
I've had the xperia z2 phone for about 3 weeks now,and i must say its a pretty descent phone. But i cant help asking myself whats so special about this phone that i paid so much for?. Its indisputable that the z2 is a highly spec'd phone with the gorgeous screen and all,but when talking smartphone,its not all the internal specs that matters,the build quality does matter too,which IMO the z2 doesnt possess. I mean come to think of it,z2 is one of the most complained about smartphones out there,not to mention...
~The spaces found between the metal frame and the glass panel,in-which my phone also have + the back glass got replaced,making it more susceptible to water damage and what not!
~The issue of self cracking,although i understand its of minority,but com'on! Its worrying
~Overheating issues,i know this have been addressed already in several places,a phone like the z2 should be able to withstand some average period of 4k recording without overheating,not just few minutes.
~The inability for the other party to hear during calls...well,even though i was able to find a temporary solution to it by flashing a custom ROM,but do all the z2 owners with same problem have to flash custom rom as well? Also,not to talk of the absurd location of the mic.
~And Oh! Did i mention the camera? Well it has a good amount of MegaPixel but seriously,the camera software suuuuuuuuu*cks!! Most especially the superior auto mode. I find myself using the ProCapture more often now. And the other day,I and a friend of mine with an iPhone 5s snapped same photo,and he mocked me 'cos his images were better than mine.
Lastly,i know That no Smartphone is perfect,buy Sony,You could do better than this!!
Anybody on my side?
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sorry about your unit you should have it replaced like what others have suggested.
the z2 for me is quite the looker (even compared to z3).
- i don't have the gap issue. my build number is 14w34.
- self cracking? been using it for 3 months now, not a single crack since. (also on tempered glass back to back).
- overheating is normal. we just have to deal with it. especially with 4k and some heavy gfx games.
- mic/call issue? i don't have it
- camera software sucks? if you can flash a custom rom, then surely you might have heard of xposed? not running 20mp superior auto? i usually photograph sceneries and my experience with the z2 has never been more awesome.
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not to mention, manual mode is there plus the many other camera shooting modes like background defocus (which is super awesome) and the likes.
and lastly, waterproof (*resist) nuff said.
the only downer for me is that warranty doesn't cover water damage but hey, that's another issue.
my two cents worth
From june 2014 till yesterday when i got my last replacement its 4 UNITS REPLACED for one year, all these faults happend to me , first was the selfcracking backplate , then on the next unit people were unable to hear me , and it backplate opened by itself and wasnt waterproof anymore, so 2days ago got my 4th replacement...its good from one side that you buy phone and after almost year you got still new device,buuuut guys thata not acceptable after all these faults with the 'Z" anf Sony just didnt learn their lessons, same faults on the flagships each new year, dont say to me all these bull****s thats its normal,because its not normal to replace 4 units for 1 year...
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Soooo can you report a thread on xda for being useless and a waste of the interwebs?
If you want to complain I suggest you should head over to the sony support forum to vent your frustration. This may have the unintended benefit of someone seeing the rant that could help.
I have to agree that sony z series main weakness is camera software. But did you try used other camera app? It might help you anyway, it is better to have a software deficiency rather than lack of hardware feature. From z to z2 im happy it had improved alot problem only is other oem had improved alot also. Anyway hope sony outshines this. Cause there are no drastically added features in smartphone.
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Soooo can you report a thread on xda for being useless and a waste of the interwebs?
If you want to complain I suggest you should head over to the sony support forum to vent your frustration. This may have the unintended benefit of someone seeing the rant that could help.
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Aparently reporting does nothing.
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Aparently reporting does nothing.
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Yes it do ^^
A Moderator take a look into it and close it but not sure but i think yes if they read the replies here.
Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
Ok guys!
Im sorry if I've caused anybody a headache by creating this thread,i was just trying to rule out some things about my new phone so i thought i could see the opinions of you guys that are using the same phone.
We could be a little bit diplomatic when addressing issues like this,No big deal. It was just a thread!!
Anyways,like i said,Im sorry.
yuskhayru said:
No need to force everyone to agree with your perception. U can sell your device and get a new one, buy the iPhone if u like the features of the Apple. Its so annoying if u keep complaining and forcing people to agree with your logic. Get a life, smartphone is not everything.
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Im not forcing anybody to agree with my perception. I obviously came from an iPhone so i dont need another.
You're right,smartphone is not everything. Sorry about the annoyance:angel:

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