So I took my Z ultra for a swim in the pool and took some pretty nice photos with Aqua Camera Light (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=am.tir.z.proximitycamera) and took some nice Video as well
Anyways, after I finished I left the phone in the Sun to dry (30 Degree Celcius) and I kept on swimming when I came back I found the phone was still making random touches like the screen was still wet, but of course it was dry as a desert!
I checked the white water mark under the flaps and it was still white, supposed to turn pink if water damage had occurred.
When I got home and took a closer look at the phone it seems there is moisture on the entire right side of the screen either under the screen protector I had applied on the screen (not the factory one, another one I fitted on top of that) or dare I say it, under the screen it's self :crying::crying:
What I have now done is switched the phone off, put it in a bowl of rice (to suck out the moisture) and left outside in the sun.
Any ideas why this happened or what I can do to fix it?
Why this happened? You said it yourself. You've fitted a 3rd party screen protector on top of the original one, and there's no way the one you put on is as tightly fitted as the original, thus letting water in between the two protectors, and then you'll experience this behavior. I think. Pure speculation from me, but it's logical.
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The reason I installed this 3rd party screen protector is to use a Pen as a stylus, scratches the hell out of the screen, so I thought I'd install that to protect the screen
The thing that worries me is, if the screen is off and it's all black and I look at the screen from different angels i can't see any moisture, when I turn screen on and I look at the screen you can clearly see the moisture! Does this mean it's under the screen it's self ?
So I took the screenprotector off and it is as I feared, the water is under the screen not the protector!
I'm very disappointed from Sony, how can this happen!
Anyways, put the phone back into the bowl of rice and out into the sun
So I took the screenprotector off and it is as I feared, the water is under the screen not the protector!
I'm very disappointed from Sony, how can this happen!
Anyways, put the phone back into the bowl of rice and out into the sun
vivalamoza said:
So I took the screenprotector off and it is as I feared, the water is under the screen not the protector!
I'm very disappointed from Sony, how can this happen!
Anyways, put the phone back into the bowl of rice and out into the sun
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You should put phone and rice in a sealed plastic bag so rice can draw moisture out.
and open the flaps if you havn't alrady
Check your screen if it is glue tight to the phone,make sure your USB cap and micro SD cap rubber ring still good,some are loose and water get in easily.
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vivalamoza said:
So I took the screenprotector off and it is as I feared, the water is under the screen not the protector!
I'm very disappointed from Sony, how can this happen!
Anyways, put the phone back into the bowl of rice and out into the sun
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Ouch! That gotta hurt. You would think that a "waterproof" gadget would indeed be waterproof. I don't think any OEM should sell and market a product as waterproof when it's not always the case. The fact that the warranty doesn't cover water damage on a waterproof product, says it all doesn't it? Sony knows that they can't guarantee waterproofness, so they refuse to cover it. (this includes all OEMs and not just Sony)
- SONY: "Go ahead and jump!"
- YOU: "But.. but will the parachute open?"
- SONY: "Yes, it's totally cool"
- YOU: "Alright, but you're covering the hospital bills if it fails"
- SONY: "Ehm.. no."
Not that comforting is it?
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LOL @ LordManhattan
So the phone is till in the bowl of rice out in the sun for the second day now, but yesterday somehow I found the phone had turned on (maybe due to an alarm or something) I switched it off and put it back, will check it when I get home today, hope the Vapour goes away.
I think what may have caused the vapour under the screen was me trying to dry off the phone in the sun when the heat was 30 degrees celcius, maybe the water evaporated due to the heat and went under the screen!
I'll let you know what happened when I get home.
I personally took mine into the pool last Friday, here in Italy (in Verona, Veneto precisely): there were 34 Celsius degrees.
Water was cool, I stayed in for like 20 minutes, took many pics with touch block+volume button as shutter, videos as well.
As I went out the phone was dry as before entering, I don't know why would you dry a phone that's all metal and glass, water slips off it the moment you take it out the water. It's not like it's a sponge or a piece of cloth or anything.
The time "drying" in the sun was definitely the culprit here. And why you left it in the sun and with the screen ON? To make it even hotter??
And hey, with 34 degrees, in and out of the water and 20 minutes of continuous photos and videos made the phone hot as a furnace, so, again, it definitely DID NOT need drying.
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So here's the update:
So I took the phone out of the rice after 3 days and 90% of the vapor under the screen is gone, just a small spot in the bottom right hand corner left
BUT
after charging the phone and using it for a couple of minutes, the screen started shaking, not flickering, shaking, so everything displayed on the screen is shaking up and down!
Any ideas what can be causing this ?!
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So here's the update:
So I took the phone out of the rice after 3 days and 90% of the vapor under the screen is gone, just a small spot in the bottom right hand corner left
BUT
after charging the phone and using it for a couple of minutes, the screen started shaking, not flickering, shaking, so everything displayed on the screen is shaking up and down!
Any ideas what can be causing this ?!
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I'm guessing that water damage would cause that [emoji12] Is the moisture indicator white or red? (the one under the right flap)
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I'm guessing that water damage would cause that [emoji12] Is the moisture indicator white or red? (the one under the right flap)
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It's white
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It's white
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Hmm... Then it would probably be best if you send it in for repairs after you've removed all of the moisture under the screen. It hasn't triggered the indicator, meaning your warranty is still valid. Your screen is obviously not functioning well, so I would grab the chance and get the screen swapped. Try getting the defect on film or something and also be sure to get the white indicator on film, so you'll have proof that it isn't water damaged.
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That's what I'm gonna do, problem is I bought this from Google play store in the USA and currently I'm in Egypt and Google doesn't sell devices here so I can't repair it in warranty
I'm gonna take it to the local Sony dealership to be fixed and I'll have to pay for it myself since they don't guarantee Google play edition devices
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That's what I'm gonna do, problem is I bought this from Google play store in the USA and currently I'm in Egypt and Google doesn't sell devices here so I can't repair it in warranty
I'm gonna take it to the local Sony dealership to be fixed and I'll have to pay for it myself since they don't guarantee Google play edition devices
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Ouch! Well in that case you're right. You'll have to pay, so let's hope it won't be a ridiculous amount (but we all know it will be).
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350 $ !!!! They told me the screen needs to be changed and that will cost 350$ !
I will take it to be repaired somewhere else !
vivalamoza said:
350 $ !!!! They told me the screen needs to be changed and that will cost 350$ !
I will take it to be repaired somewhere else !
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Yeah, we all saw that one coming, haha. It's a 6.44 inch 1080p panel after all, and that ain't cheap. You can of course buy the panel and do the work yourself, but I don't recommend that if you've never done it before.
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vivalamoza said:
350 $ !!!! They told me the screen needs to be changed and that will cost 350$ !
I will take it to be repaired somewhere else !
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You might as well buy a new one and sell that one for parts.
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OK folks,
After a night of wine and tequila on a brother birthday, i got to home with my girlfriend. I get quickly to bathroom and my phone fell out of my coat directly on the toilet. When I saw, I took as fast as possible and not turned over, and dry it with a hairdryer, removed the battery and sim/sd card.
Apparently the screen still with some water on it inside. I didnt opened it because it still on warranty (1 month of use), so i'm freaking out, here in brazil I paid $800 (it costs $1200 really, but i got a promotion) and i'm out of money. So if you guys know something to do and if atrix have a protection, please help me.
PS: donation accepted
Like any other phone that gets wet...battery removal is a priority. Then put it in a ziploc bag of dry, uncooked rice for several days. Your warranty is now void since it's been wet, so dis-assembly shouldn't bother you.
you might as well take it apart to let it dry since your warranty does not cover water damage. you can always try to find some water damage stickers on ebay and replace them and try to get the warranty to cover it...
I already removed the battery, of course. I'm thinking of dis-assembly this and try to replace the water damage indicator, but there is no other sticker that motorola can know that i opened it? because opening void the warranty too.
Lesson learned. Don't put a phone in a pocket where gravity can take over and drop.
That being said, I've fixed a couple wet iPhones by putting it in dry uncooked white rice for acouple days.
LivingChampion said:
Lesson learned. Don't put a phone in a pocket where gravity can take over and drop.
That being said, I've fixed a couple wet iPhones by putting it in dry uncooked white rice for acouple days.
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Rice will usually work. HURRY
Thats not a 'lesson learned'. Every day the first thing i do when get in home is put the cell on its dock, but this time... it happens...
the cellphone is now on white rice uncooked, i'll leave it for some days and will try to call motorola to knows if they can do anything, maybe paying... i know the warranty is on the hell...
i'm just with fear about the water inside the lcd screen... i'll search around an video off dis-assembly of atrix..
My wife dropped hers in the toilet not only is it working fine but the moisture
sensor on the back under the cover is still white.
good thing our phone doesnt have void stickers so we can take it apart how many times we want without worrying, also the lcd is not glued to the digitizer and what not. so if there is water inside you can easily get it out..
kudos to moto.
I have found this: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/1
Someone know at where should i dis-assembly? i think it's very hard to assembly it again after.
Thanks to everyone that are trying to help me, i'll thank every one!
Sorry for double post, edit bnt isn't working here (Opera),
Do someone know where to find the water damage indicator to replace mine? I didn't find it on ebay (or doesnt know how to name it)...
Thanks in advance.
I would like to name this build (if you dont mind)..."Toiletblur"
If you take it apart and let it dry out it should dry out and work again. It happened to another phone I had.
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vanstorm said:
I would like to name this build (if you dont mind)..."Toiletblur"
If you take it apart and let it dry out it should dry out and work again. It happened to another phone I had.
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Not quite so............corrosion can build up very quickly, and the only way to get rid of that is to take apart your phone, piece by piece, and very carefully clean out any corrosion deposits. There are guides for this with the iPhone, and other phones, but the Atrix is too new I believe for there to be a comprehensive guide showing what needs to be checked and cleaned. Contacts are one of the first places on which corrosion starts to appear.
Pretty sure there are no void stickers on this phone. Also there's only like 5 or 6 screws to take the whole phone apart. All of which are visible from the back. I stripped mine down as soon as I got it. I don't think there's any moisture sensors either. Maybe on the battery itself? If so just get a new battery
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Should I use Isopropyl alcohol or is too late? Remember that yesterday was sunday, so i can buy it on workdays
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Pretty sure there are no void stickers on this phone. Also there's only like 5 or 6 screws to take the whole phone apart. All of which are visible from the back. I stripped mine down as soon as I got it. I don't think there's any moisture sensors either. Maybe on the battery itself? If so just get a new battery
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there are two water indicators, one on the battery and one on the phone under the battery
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Should I use Isopropyl alcohol or is too late? Remember that yesterday was sunday, so i can buy it on workdays
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Here are a couple of links to repairs for water damage:
I take no responsibility if following any of the procedures results in worse/more damage
http://www.fiscalgeek.com/2009/06/ff_water_damaged_cellphone/
http://www.gsmindia.in/forum/nokia-hardware-repair-section/18861-how-to-handel-water-damage-handsets-good-guide-here.html
http://techpp.com/2009/12/13/how-to-save-and-repair-your-mobile-phone-after-water-damage/
+1 for the uncooked rice method. tested and proven it works
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there are two water indicators, one on the battery and one on the phone under the battery
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must have missed that one. phone comes apart real nice though. I bought mine broken. well the volume keys were messed up and the battery cover wouldn't go on right. obviously it was dropped. I took it all apart and when i reassembled it was fixed lol. one little thing around the volume keys must have been out of place. saved $200 of retail for it too
I had same experience. I did the white rice for a couple days, then switched to flower drying crystals. After a while the phone started to boot again.
To dry out the lcd, navigation is your friend. Drove for a good twenty minutes with the screen on and noticed that the streeks were disappearing. After another day, phone was like factory again.
Motorola built this phone right.
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Well i recieved my z2 yesterday and immediately and possibly stupidly wanted to test the waterproof aspect of it, i dunked it in a bowl of cold water for no more than 30 seconds however i more have moisture in my camera lens. I've let it try and dry out even left it in rice all last night with the flaps open and the moisture is still there, thing is the flaps were sealed properly so i have no idea why this has happened. Just hoping i haven't knacked the phone on the first day if having it, any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Exactly same thing happened to me, except my phone is now dead too. Going back to the vendor with it today. Hopefully they'll be cool about it, but I'm expecting an argument although this should be covered by DOA rules in the first seven days.
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Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
chucklz_smiley said:
Im tempted to take mine to a shop and see what they say good i love the phone but atm the camera is no use :/ should they take it back?
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Bought mine from a local online vendor that also has brick-and-mortar shops and wanted to check their info online first. They say water exposure voids the warranty of all their products, but refer to the manufacturer's warranty info. But I have no such info in my box, but instructions say that if water is found inside the casing it voids the warranty. Therein lies the rub - if your waterproofing doesn't work, you're gonna get water inside the thing.
Anyway, waiting to hear back from Sony. Another potential issue I have is that under my Imei info on their support site my warranty went out in July 2013 - before the phone was even made or launched. Hoping Sony will be reasonable with this. I decided not to involve the vendor, but I might have to try.
"cold water" - Explains it all.
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"cold water" - Explains it all.
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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How does that explain anything?????? would it be better in boiling water???? If you can find me something from sony that says the waterproofing only works in water within a certain temparature range, then i will accept that cold water explains it all....... as it is the temp of the water explains sod all!!!!!!
On a lighter note, im kinda glad my mates been away all week so haven't been able to dunk it in his fishtank....... not sure that i want to now lol
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
KyleSforza said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporation
Tested under Fresh water :
http://www.static.xperiablog.net/wp...hy_waterproof_a_smartphone_printres-01-01.jpg
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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What are you on about???
Water can be fresh and cold.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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You're not making much sense I'm afraid.
KyleSforza said:
1st, evaporation can cause cold/hot water to enter through the glass, as we know it forms droplets on the glass.
Well, explain that to Sony not me.
I think some Rice, or placing it in a warm area should fix it.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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Ehm I'm not a good at science, but when you get water outside of your glass of cold water is because of the moist in the air is cooled down from gas to liquid form.
Sorry for bad explaining, I am not good with the english terminology.
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You are correct. Water droplets formed outside of a chilled glass is caused by condensation which is when gas is changed to liquid. Condensation formed on lens is usually caused by a drastic change in temperature long enough to cause condensation.
On topic, when dealing with camera lens for DSLRs, you want to allow your gear to adjust to the temperature when going from a really cold environment to a warm environment or vice versa. One way I know if allowing your gear to adjust is to place them in pouches or bags and bring it into the other environment to let it adjust then take them out.
In this case, the phone going from a warm environment (the room) to a cold environment (the water) may have caused condensation to build up. I've gotten condensation build up before in my old iphone 3gs. I THINK I got rid of it by using a blow dryer to blow on the lens and I just let the phone sit for awhile. Eventually the condensation went away.
I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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I filmed the water test of my phone - when it failed miserably with bubbles rushing out of the bottom of the screen as water rushed in - after some hassles with Sony's repair request system, I finally got the local Sony reps to call the repair shop and send a shipping label. Sent in the phone with a note referring to the video and had a replacement phone before the end of the week. At the end of the day, I'm very pleased with Sony's handling of the matter.
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Update to my case, unfortunately the replacement unit suddenly has moisture in the lens after a visit to the pool. This track record is getting me down now. Two phones rated at IP58 and both get water on the inside.
My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
raducanmihai said:
My friend just returned from a vacation to Greece where he took his Z1. He wanted to shoot videos in the pool at the hotel. This is the result:
Unfortunately he got moisture inside the camera and flash.
Fortunately he was able to blow warm air inside with a hair dryer and get rid of the moisture.
Unfortunately his screen started to malfunction 2 days later (he doesn't know if it's related to moisture or not)
Fortunately he still has warranty
Unfortunately the warranty is not with Sony but with a mobile carrier
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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Agree with this method of getting rid of moisture in the camera. Only problem is that a phone that is supposed to be IP58 shouldn't get water in it so you have to dry it out every time it gets wet. I'm going to try and return my phone again and get another replacement.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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don't use hair dryer or what ever , it will burn out circuit. Switch off the device and take a little tupperware play dry rice ( uncook in it ) , open up your flaps ( remove memory card/ sim ) and dig a hold in the rice then play the device in then cover rice over it then cover it and place it in some dry warm place for 24 - 48 hours it should go away try it and let me now this happens for my z1 and idid this
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As I said, it's my friend's phone (Z1), not mine. I have a Z2. He took it to warranty and he didn't mention anything about moisture in the camera or hair dryer.
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of course my friend this is defective device and do keep pictures of the defects as a proof and return it
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I agree with your assessment as the device being defective. I know that the hatches were closed and that coupled with the IP58 leads to the conclusion that it's defective if water got in some how. But here's the rub - although the onus should be on the vendor to bear the burden of proof, manufacturers of these devices have covered their backsides by not adjusting their warranty terms to allow coverage of water damage even though they market the devices as waterproof and water resistant. How can they do that? Well they design in an "out" for themselves by putting hatches on the things. Suddenly, they shift the burden of proof to us consumers.
My first device sucked in water like a sponge. Proving this on film was an easy match as you could see bubbles pouring out of it as water poured in.
My second device showed no problems in the same test over about 5 mins in a pitcher of water. Then after a day at the waterpark, the lens fogged over. I dried it our in rice and redid the water pitcher test - nothing. I even left it in the water for a good 15 hours and it kept working and showed no fog on the lens. Then, hours later as I began using it again and a temperature differential arose between the air in the phone and the temp outside, it fogged over, proving that a drop or two of water got in some how.
So now I'm in a bind. The phone keeps working through all the tests I put it through and water invasion is so slight that it only shows up in use after taking it out of water and comes and goes. Still, as soon as I take it to the pool or lake, I won't be able to rely on the camera working right. Catch-22.
it's been some sad days for me. as you might have noticed around this forum I loved my ultra. but some days ago it cracked, of no obvious reason. had it in my pocket and when I took it out there was one single crack over the screen. and the display refused to register any kind of touch.
so what is my warning? I removed the anti shatter film, and I think I shouldn't have done that. so my message to everyone considering this, just don't. there's probably a very good reason it's there and why it's glued.
now I got myself a m8 and it's probably the best device out there. the day the successor to the ultra turns up I will go big again.
Hope to see you around, mate! I'll probably stay with the Ultra until there's a new and interesting "phablet" on the market. Doesn't look like the Ultra 2 is happening, and I'm not going to buy a Samsung, so I guess I'm stuck, lol.
I would never changed phone if it didn't break. but I guess this is a culprit with such a big device, that it can bend and crack that way. next time I'm with a big one I'm buying a hard case!
Yup, mine just came from a screen replacement last week now it's alive and kickin. Hehe.
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Yup, mine just came from a screen replacement last week now it's alive and kickin. Hehe.
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How did your one crack?
I forgot to take it out from my pocket and sat on it, but I noticed it instantly I was just to late to react.
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I forgot to take it out from my pocket and sat on it, but I noticed it instantly I was just to late to react.
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Are you getting a hard case?
By the way, how much did it cost you to get it replaced? And did you have the factory anti shatter film removed before it cracked?
Many questions, sorry for that ☺
pemell said:
Are you getting a hard case?
By the way, how much did it cost you to get it replaced? And did you have the factory anti shatter film removed before it cracked?
Many questions, sorry for that ☺
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If I can find a good hard case, I will.
280sgd so around 220usd.
No, I did not remove the ASF.
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Ok thanks man for your response
I had one with the asf removed and used it for 6 months with no problems with screen then I sold it which was a big mistake.But now I got another one and loving it this one has the asf still intact.
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If I can find a good hard case, I will.
280sgd so around 220usd.
No, I did not remove the ASF.
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Dang that sucks dude. I still have the ASF on mine and holy crap it's scratched to hell and back. I've sat on it and keep it in my pocket all the time without a case on but sometimes I take it out. I'm lucky when it comes to the cracking screen part, but I'm bad luck when it comes to waterproof. I got water in it somehow last night in the shower. Water is now under the dang screen but doing the rice bag helped a lot and got most of it out as of this morning. Funny thing is even though water is in the phone and I can hear it splashing around, the phone was still working!!! This thing is a freaking BEAST!!! Screen started to flicker so I turned it off and dropped that puppy in a bag of rice where it's at right now. Turned it on this morning and it's still working and no more screen flicker. I'm going to keep it in rice for the rest of the day.
Lmfao @ "though water is in the phone and I can hear it splashing around, the phone was still working!!!" That was hilarious! I'm glad it's still kicking for you, that paragraph cracked me up!
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it's been some sad days for me. as you might have noticed around this forum I loved my ultra. but some days ago it cracked, of no obvious reason. had it in my pocket and when I took it out there was one single crack over the screen. and the display refused to register any kind of touch.
so what is my warning? I removed the anti shatter film, and I think I shouldn't have done that. so my message to everyone considering this, just don't. there's probably a very good reason it's there and why it's glued.
now I got myself a m8 and it's probably the best device out there. the day the successor to the ultra turns up I will go big again.
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thats exactly what happened to mine i miss my z ultra but hopefully i will get the updated z ultra if they make one. Mine did it without removing the anti shatterproof.
I Found Several Good Hard Cases!
I've had my baby since 10/01/13 and I absolutely love my BEAST! I'll post pix when I get home but you guys ought to think about grabbing the camera attachment hard case. It's great and there's no give on the device, at all. I always keep it in a case and I've kept the ASF along with front and back glass screen protectors.
The cases I've found were all Sony OEM except for the RoxFit too. If you look around you can find them. Sony has even contacted a case maker so to speak.
My baby BEAST is running strong (don't jinx me please) bit I'm still waiting for the XZU II (2) I'd it every comes out. I ain't NEVER going back to Samsung after being spoiled with Sony's great build quality.
Damn Straight.
Just finally rooted it back in May, I was waiting for KitKat 4.4.4. Now I'll wait for Android L. I can't go back to anything the size of a toy anymore that's definite. But hey that's just me.
And hey guys, grabbing a screen and doing it yourself wouldn't been a hell of a lot cheaper by the way. They're always on eBay plus they cine with pry tools and all. Just sayin'.
The very same happened to me! ..It cost me around $250 to replace the screen..
I keep my XZ in a book-style hard-cover case, and haven't removed the ASF. there are light scratches on it which I can't see in normal use. I do polish the screen a fair amount to remove grease and spots, and that does seem to help reduce scratches.
I was actually considering buying a second XZU because of all the heavy discounting, especially since there seems no sign of a Z2 Ultra or Z Ultra2 model.
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Dang that sucks dude. I still have the ASF on mine and holy crap it's scratched to hell and back. I've sat on it and keep it in my pocket all the time without a case on but sometimes I take it out. I'm lucky when it comes to the cracking screen part, but I'm bad luck when it comes to waterproof. I got water in it somehow last night in the shower. Water is now under the dang screen but doing the rice bag helped a lot and got most of it out as of this morning. Funny thing is even though water is in the phone and I can hear it splashing around, the phone was still working!!! This thing is a freaking BEAST!!! Screen started to flicker so I turned it off and dropped that puppy in a bag of rice where it's at right now. Turned it on this morning and it's still working and no more screen flicker. I'm going to keep it in rice for the rest of the day.
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Seriously, what are you doing watching porn on that big screen on the shower with the other hand where? lmfao
Prabash said:
The very same happened to me! ..It cost me around $250 to replace the screen..
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Did you try and get it repaired under the warranty? Mine cracked while in my pocket. Doing absolutely nothing at all. I heard others with the same issue, and most, if not all of them got it fixed under warranty. I called mine in and sent it off to Sony. Just waiting on a call back from them on whether or not they will repair under warranty. Most of what I read is that even though Sony says they will contact you they don't. You ship it off and then a few weeks later it is shipped back repaired. Crossing my fingers.
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Seriously, what are you doing watching porn on that big screen on the shower with the other hand where? lmfao
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Lol. I couldn't help it.
I got water in it again last week by accident. Was getting ready for work and brushing my teeth with it on the counter by the sink and I splashed water all over it by accident when I was washing my face. Wasn't much but I could see the moisture building up under it so I rice it all day.
Still kicking.However when I power it on I can see a very faint "light" spot under the screen where it isn't well lit. It's only about 5 mm wide but oh well. Doesn't affect the screen when the phone is fully on and running though.
This is the strongest phone I've ever had since my Samsung Infuse «----that phone got the **** beaten out of it!!!!
pemell said:
it's been some sad days for me. as you might have noticed around this forum I loved my ultra. but some days ago it cracked, of no obvious reason. had it in my pocket and when I took it out there was one single crack over the screen. and the display refused to register any kind of touch.
so what is my warning? I removed the anti shatter film, and I think I shouldn't have done that. so my message to everyone considering this, just don't. there's probably a very good reason it's there and why it's glued.
now I got myself a m8 and it's probably the best device out there. the day the successor to the ultra turns up I will go big again.
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that sucks. if you do decide to hop back into a z ultra, try running it with dual tempered glass screen protectors. it adds 0.8mm to the overall thickness but adds rigidity, and at 13$ on ebay for each protector, it makes it easy to replace without any huge blows to your pocketbook. :good:
On Tuesday, I partially immersed my Xperia Z2 in water and somehow water got in [I am positive the flaps were sealed tightly (As a matter of fact, I didn't even submerge that part.)] I immediately turned the phone off and shook some water out of it and placed it in the sun. A few hours later, I turned on the device to find water in the display. I again turned it off and placed it in a box of rice and silica gel.
So today is the second day after the disaster. The phone seems to be functioning properly and I GUESS some of the water dried out.
SO this is what the display looks like as of now. (I attached an image)
Now, I don't know if this is just water (I believe that's what it is) or if the display is just damaged and I need to get it replaced?
I would really appreciate any kind of help
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On Tuesday, I partially immersed my Xperia Z2 in water and somehow water got in [I am positive the flaps were sealed tightly (As a matter of fact, I didn't even submerge that part.)] I immediately turned the phone off and shook some water out of it and placed it in the sun. A few hours later, I turned on the device to find water in the display. I again turned it off and placed it in a box of rice and silica gel.
So today is the second day after the disaster. The phone seems to be functioning properly and I GUESS some of the water dried out.
SO this is what the display looks like as of now. (I attached an image)
Now, I don't know if this is just water (I believe that's what it is) or if the display is just damaged and I need to get it replaced?
I would really appreciate any kind of help
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i have the same i take it to reparation, he do his best to get water out of panel but still there is some point shown in white color
generally its not disturb me :good:
jakobdz said:
i have the same i take it to reparation, he do his best to get water out of panel but still there is some point shown in white color
generally its not disturb me :good:
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Can you please attatch a picture (or maybe email it to me at [email protected]) just so I can see what the display looks like..
Did you like try to do anything on your own with the phone to dry the water out or something?
Also, how long was your phone wet before you took it to the technician?
-Thank you
tendollarswag said:
Can you please attatch a picture (or maybe email it to me at [email protected]) just so I can see what the display looks like..
Did you like try to do anything on your own with the phone to dry the water out or something?
Also, how long was your phone wet before you took it to the technician?
-Thank you
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look to pics and try to zoom theme to the area where i design circle.
http://im78.gulfup.com/rtvHlT.jpg
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yes i let it one night in pocket of rice in the next day it take it to technician, about 4 hours he call me, he said that he do their best to get water out panel but still there this little white Bubbles, just appear in light colors
jakobdz said:
look to pics and try to zoom theme to the area where i design circle.
yes i let it one night in pocket of rice in the next day it take it to technician, about 4 hours he call me, he said that he do their best to get water out panel but still there this little white Bubbles, just appear in light colors
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Wow, that is such minor damage!
Thank you for sharing the pics
I thought the Z2 is water proof. Isn't it ?
kalda01 said:
I thought the Z2 is water proof. Isn't it ?
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Some Z2s have a slightly open area between their frame and the screen. It's a manufacturing defect.
Does this defect exist even in recently manufactured units? I mean once Sony became aware of the defect they didn't bother correcting the manufacturing flaw ?
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
Here's mine after some water splash, I didn't even submerge the phone.
I tried to make the water dissappear by playing some games so the device gets hot, then I put it on the magnetic charger and the next morning the water was gone.
Warranty should cover it but I just didn't want to be without the phone for 3 weeks
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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Does this defect exist even in recently manufactured units? I mean once Sony became aware of the defect they didn't bother correcting the manufacturing flaw ?
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I'm not sure but I got mine a couple of days ago
slangza said:
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
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That's not a good sign, it means water got into the phone, I wouldn't submerge it ever again if I was you
Sent from my Xperia Z2
slangza said:
Every-time I submerge my Z2 underwater.. more or less 10cm- 20cm there is some condensation buildup on the cameras and flash. All flaps are closed, is this normal??
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Nope, that shouldn't happen to a water-proof phone at all.
Jiyeon90 said:
That's not a good sign, it means water got into the phone, I wouldn't submerge it ever again if I was you
Sent from my Xperia Z2
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Pretty bad waterproofing then! I also have a bit of moisture on the screen.
Will be leaving the phone overnight in rice, hoping it helps!
Jiyeon90 said:
Here's mine after some water splash, I didn't even submerge the phone.
I tried to make the water dissappear by playing some games so the device gets hot, then I put it on the magnetic charger and the next morning the water was gone.
Warranty should cover it but I just didn't want to be without the phone for 3 weeks
Sent from my Xp;eria Z2
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Much easier way: place the phone in an air-tight container filled with rich (or even silica gel). Works like a charm!
I've decided not to use screen protectors anymore. I just got my Nexus 6 less than a month ago, and I have been putting these things on for years from plastic to the new glass. The new tempered glass screen protectors fall short of the edges and look like a little island sitting on top of my screen with halo effect. The plastic ones eventually become pitted on the surface due to being plastic and discolored. I used to have one on my Galaxy S4 a long time ago and removed it and just used no screen protector which has Gorilla Glass 3. It has no physical damage other than general oil which can be wiped off.
I take care of my phone and the front glass is the same as my S4 which I had no problems with for several years. After trying to put one on my brother's phone (LG) yesterday and there being an issue with his, it just seems like it's more of a hassle and out of instinct than anything else.
So is this a question? Just carefully use a razor blade or even usually a fingernail will do it?
scryan said:
So is this a question? Just carefully use a razor blade or even usually a fingernail will do it?
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It was just an observation. I did have an order for a tempered glass one, but for the price I just got a case instead.
If one plans on selling their phone at some point, it's a good idea to put a protector on it. Even though it may look perfect without one, there are always minor scratches and pits if one looks hard enough. If you plan on keeping it until it dies, then no biggie.
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It was just an observation. I did have an order for a tempered glass one, but for the price I just got a case instead.
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K.
Thanks for keeping us updated.
Thinking of taking mine off too but I got 2 toddlers at home who sometimes like to treat my phone as a skateboard.
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bushako said:
Thinking of taking mine off too but I got 2 toddlers at home who sometimes like to treat my phone as a skateboard.
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Lol. Might make sense to keep it on then. This Nexus 6 is a really good phone so I don't plan on selling it even if I get a new one later on. The screen size is generous, plus I LOVE the fact that it is water resistant. All phones should be made stock water resistant.
Between the fact that it's a Nexus, big size, water PROOF, last micro USB 2.0 phone (I don't want to have to replace all my cords), etc.............Mine will not be sold or given away.
Only screen is 'water resistant' (rain, water droplets...), not entire phone.
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nemanja066 said:
Only screen is 'water resistant' (rain, water droplets...), not entire phone.
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https://youtu.be/LO_aTg1VU6k
https://youtu.be/S8BfTyXWpfk
Youtube videos have tested submerging the phone in water.
mikeprius said:
https://youtu.be/LO_aTg1VU6k
https://youtu.be/S8BfTyXWpfk
Youtube videos have tested submerging the phone in water.
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Just curious have you submerged it in water? Ive read about it being water proof to a certain extent but still skeptical considering it hasnt got any rubber flaps to seal the ports. Ive got a moto x 2013 on the side and although it isnt rated as officially water resistant they did mention that the internals are supposedly coated with some substance that makes it resistant.
bushako said:
Just curious have you submerged it in water? Ive read about it being water proof to a certain extent but still skeptical considering it hasnt got any rubber flaps to seal the ports. Ive got a moto x 2013 on the side and although it isnt rated as officially water resistant they did mention that the internals are supposedly coated with some substance that makes it resistant.
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I have turned off the phone, taken out the SIM card as a precaution, then soaked it in lukewarm water (still kept off) for a few minutes, taken it out and let dry overnight (still kept off), then in the morning put back in the SIM card, and power on.
The videos show it being left on and put in water. The only thing is the SIM card issue, hence why I take it out and just turn off the phone as a precaution prior to being soaked and taken out and dried. The water proofing isn't like the Samsung where it uses rubber gaskets/seals to keep out water, the Motorola phone's components are specially coated.
I'm not sure about you, but lint has a tendency to accumulate around the face of the phone and speakers from being in the pocket so this helps me keep it clean anyways.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-water-resistance-tested-immersion-water.html
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I have turned off the phone, taken out the SIM card as a precaution, then soaked it in lukewarm water (still kept off) for a few minutes, taken it out and let dry overnight (still kept off), then in the morning put back in the SIM card, and power on.
The videos show it being left on and put in water. The only thing is the SIM card issue, hence why I take it out and just turn off the phone as a precaution prior to being soaked and taken out and dried. The water proofing isn't like the Samsung where it uses rubber gaskets/seals to keep out water, the Motorola phone's components are specially coated.
I'm not sure about you, but lint has a tendency to accumulate around the face of the phone and speakers from being in the pocket so this helps me keep it clean anyways.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...-water-resistance-tested-immersion-water.html
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Although those pocket lints along the front panel does annoy the hell out of me its just not enough for me to run it under the tap. At least not yet I just had it since a month ago. Maybe a few more months when I get bored of it [emoji14] thanks for the info though.
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I personally used to be worried about the screen breaking. Recently my tempered glass one cracked to the point where I had to take it off. On new years and yesterday, the phone fell 20ft off a Railcar I was on working, into rocks. I watched it fall on the screen side, and my heart stopped beating for a second each time. To my surprise, no scratches or breaks on the screen. I do have a beetle unicorn case. The screen is more resilient than I thought!
I suppose it depends on what you want to do long-term. For me, I will not sell my Nexus 6. It's a good phone and will be a back up assuming it is in good condition. I do use a case that has a lip on it, but other than that I do not personally feel the need to have a screen protector. I take care of my phone and don't rub the screen against sand despite living California. My old Galaxy S4 I took off and the glass is still fine.
Screen protector are a hassle and visually an eye sore to me. I'd rather enjoy my phone while I have it until the next one.