I haven't seen this posted already so I figured I would share. Anyways my brother just got a S4 for $120 but it came with cracked front glass. I told him I would fix the glass for him (my first time touching a S4 let alone replacing the front glass). Well I meant to take more pictures, but in the moment I just wanted to get the phone done. I followed a guide on iFixit and watched a couple videos on Youtube, alot of people are right when they say that the Youtube videos make it look simple. Anyways this was my first time working with LOCA glue (removing and replacing).
Here are some helpful tips:
#1 Make a jig that will hold your heat gun above your workspace, you will need to adjust the height depending on how well your heat gun works.
#2 Put some clear packaging tape on the front of the glass to avoid glass chipping and flying, also to keep glass from entering under the glass and scratching the digitizer..
#3 The glass is easiest removed with a temperature between 155f and 165f.
#4 Work top to bottom. Ear piece to button.
#5 When prying the glass off MAKE SURE you are between the glass and the digitizer, it is easy to lift the whole LCD assembly.
#6 Work slowly, if the glass if badly broken it will not pull up as easily as a less shattered glass. I found that the digitizer was not as fragile as I was made to believe.
#7 Have plastic razor blades or a plastic putty knife/scraper handy for the removal and cleanup of the LOCA glue.
#8 Have 2 lint free cloths handy for the cleanup and removal of the LOCA glue.
#9 When the glass is almost off remember to pry off the back and home button sensors from the bottom of the glass.
#10 When it is time to clean up the digitizer use your putty knife/scraper to get most of it up.
#11 I found that Eucalyptus oil works well at removing the rest of the LOCA glue. Just put some on a Q-tip and swab the area you want to clean.
Here is a pic of what the digitizer looked like after cleaning with Eucalyptus oil.
EDIT: Sorry pic wouldn't link, had to make it an attachment.
I'm not gonna lie, while putting the new glass on I could not get all the air out, I did not get pics of the finished screen, but it only has a couple small bubbles. Well worth the $10 for the new glass.
fyca said:
I haven't seen this posted already so I figured I would share.....
....I'm not gonna lie, while putting the new glass on I could not get all the air out, I did not get pics of the finished screen, but it only has a couple small bubbles. Well worth the $10 for the new glass.
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nice write-up. shame that the image alone has over 500 views and nobody else has hit the "thank" button
well i thank you @fyca for the info and your time! :good:
Hey guys,
My first digitizer replacement ended up in a few big flower shaped flecks on the screen. That is not what I expected. I am very curious to know how these flecks appeared, or how I could avoid this will happen again. Also it looked to me like the original brightness could not be achieved.
This is the phone (Jiayu G2s) with the Calendar active which is almost an entire white display.
anybody who recognizes this?
oh, and by the way everything functions normal.
1_Petje
Looks like you overheated the actual screen. If you apply too much heat you will lose colors/brightness in those areas.
Heat not the only cause......
1_Petje said:
Hey guys,
My first digitizer replacement ended up in a few big flower shaped flecks on the screen. That is not what I expected. I am very curious to know how these flecks appeared, or how I could avoid this will happen again. Also it looked to me like the original brightness could not be achieved.
Link removed because someone failed to think;New posters have to quote the question in their posts, and may quote a link...Sheesh! //i58.tinypic.com/2duawkm.jpg
This is the phone (Jiayu G2s) with the Calendar active which is almost an entire white display.
anybody who recognizes this?
oh, and by the way everything functions normal.
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The "flowers" that you see can be caused by too much heat. BUT, these appear to be the result of excessive pressure placed on the display. If you press hard enough on almost any lcd or led display you'll see these kinds of patterns. If you let off they go away, unless you've pressed to hard or too long. AMOLED are particularly sensitive when heated. Long and short, be careful how much pressure you use when removing the glass etc....
I replaced an s3 screen twice. It was obviously easier the second time, as there was no LOCA to fight with. The main reason for diminished clarity and sharpness after replacement is the absence of the LOCA. Once u manage to get the glass off and do the necessary cleaning/preparation for reassembly, applying 3-4cc's of LOCA onto the digitizer in a vertically stretched "X" pattern will give u that genuine factory screen appearance. Well...After u cure it under UV light. But...for a novice, applying the LOCA and making it look good without permanently damaging the device is extremely tricky. And shouldn't b attempted if you're not somewhat of a professional, as the glue can seep down into your phone's internal hardware.
fyca said:
I haven't seen this posted already so I figured I would share. Anyways my brother just got a S4 for $120 but it came with cracked front glass. I told him I would fix the glass for him (my first time touching a S4 let alone replacing the front glass). Well I meant to take more pictures, but in the moment I just wanted to get the phone done. I followed a guide on iFixit and watched a couple videos on Youtube, alot of people are right when they say that the Youtube videos make it look simple. Anyways this was my first time working with LOCA glue (removing and replacing).
Here are some helpful tips:
#1 Make a jig that will hold your heat gun above your workspace, you will need to adjust the height depending on how well your heat gun works.
#2 Put some clear packaging tape on the front of the glass to avoid glass chipping and flying, also to keep glass from entering under the glass and scratching the digitizer..
#3 The glass is easiest removed with a temperature between 155f and 165f.
#4 Work top to bottom. Ear piece to button.
#5 When prying the glass off MAKE SURE you are between the glass and the digitizer, it is easy to lift the whole LCD assembly.
#6 Work slowly, if the glass if badly broken it will not pull up as easily as a less shattered glass. I found that the digitizer was not as fragile as I was made to believe.
#7 Have plastic razor blades or a plastic putty knife/scraper handy for the removal and cleanup of the LOCA glue.
#8 Have 2 lint free cloths handy for the cleanup and removal of the LOCA glue.
#9 When the glass is almost off remember to pry off the back and home button sensors from the bottom of the glass.
#10 When it is time to clean up the digitizer use your putty knife/scraper to get most of it up.
#11 I found that Eucalyptus oil works well at removing the rest of the LOCA glue. Just put some on a Q-tip and swab the area you want to clean.
Here is a pic of what the digitizer looked like after cleaning with Eucalyptus oil.
EDIT: Sorry pic wouldn't link, had to make it an attachment.
I'm not gonna lie, while putting the new glass on I could not get all the air out, I did not get pics of the finished screen, but it only has a couple small bubbles. Well worth the $10 for the new glass.
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hi. thanks for the tip... i have 1 question at the moment, and it might sound silly... but what kind of eucalyptus oil did you use and where from? i did a search on it and there were all sorts of brands and use, and seems forms of it...
i like lighter fluid personally but its to runny but is perfect it you can keep it from behind the lcd and messing up the sheets on the likes of a LG G3.
The eucalyptus oil I used was an essential oil from my local co-op/natural foods store.
Go to lcdbondingusa dot com. They have this cleaner for cleaning LOCA. Man let me tell you, it's well worth the cost. I use a diabetic syringe to get it between the LCD and Digi. Sure does make easy work of it. It's great for other stuff, too.
" Lcd Adhesive Remover Cleaner For UV Glue OCA Glue iPhone & samsung Safe To Use" is the way it was layed out on the eBay page
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hello to all,
I had a small incident during some home repair work where I didn't realize that I had adhesive on the fingers when I answered the tel. After that I found traces of adhesive on the screen as one can see on the photo. I did not remember if I had placed a screen protector on my toshiba at the beginning or not. Then To check it I tried to remove it with the nail to take off an edge, and an end is actually detached, except that it does not look like a screen protector, but a kind of plastic layer semi-rigid which has the thickness of a protective film! It looks like a protective hard coat which comes with the phone but is not supposed to be removed.
I am afraid now to pull it off and damage my screen even more. Then I would like to know if somebody already experienced this problem and could remove this protective layer.
If so please share your experience. I may not be the only one with this issue.
Thanks a lot and sorry for my poor English.
That looks indeed like part of the case that protects the touch screen. I will try ebay and look for a replacement case.
its avible on ebay for 17 euros only
i think that surface is not a protective layer.. i think it's part of the touchscreen.
I removed mine today. Touch screen still works
The coating makes the screen less prone to scratches, and makes slight scratches less apparent. After removing the coating, I noticed the lots of tiny scratches I made on the screen, but they're gone after I stick a new screen protector on it.
I'm glad I removed it because there's a scratch on mine.
Phil_123 said:
I removed mine today. Touch screen still works
The coating makes the screen less prone to scratches, and makes slight scratches less apparent. After removing the coating, I noticed the lots of tiny scratches I made on the screen, but they're gone after I stick a new screen protector on it.
I'm glad I removed it because there's a scratch on mine.
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Can you report exactly how did you make it? Are you sure that it was not a previous protective screen? I've just bought a second TG01 with a scratched screen but I don't dare to do what you did
Pere said:
Can you report exactly how did you make it? Are you sure that it was not a previous protective screen? I've just bought a second TG01 with a scratched screen but I don't dare to do what you did
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It is not a previous protective screen. It is factory applied, there's a lot of glue residue on the screen after I remove it. Took me a lot of time to remove the glue by "pushing" the glue to a side with my fingers, then cleaning it off with WD40.
I bought my second hand TG01 in June and have been using it every day ever since. A few days ago, presumably due to cold weather, I noticed this hard coat is starting to wear off, there's a mark on the screen like a badly applied screen protector, so I started to remove it.
The glue that stuck the hard coat onto the screen was very strong, so be patient and take extra care when removing the coat. Do it slowly so only the hard coat is removed but not the soft touch screen layer below it.
DO stick a new screen protector on the screen after removing the hard coat as the unprotected screen is more prone to scratches without the hard coat.
After two days of use, do NOT remove the hard coat. I think I damaged the touch screen in the progress, it's now very hard to tap on the intended position correctly.
Now going to buy a new touch screen
Phil_123 said:
After two days of use, do NOT remove the hard coat. I think I damaged the touch screen in the progress, it's now very hard to tap on the intended position correctly.
Now going to buy a new touch screen
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Thank you for your WARNING.
I wonder if you could film the process of changing the touch! If you have success (as expected) this video would be very useful for other people interested (as me)
Crossed fingers!
It's not a video and it might take google translator to understand it, but, thanx to a guy called chdeul, there are very interesting explanations and pictures on the french forum:
http://toshiba-tg01.forumactif.com/t1205-tuto-demontage-du-toshiba-tg01
Meerau said:
It's not a video and it might take google translator to understand it, but, thanx to a guy called chdeul, there are very interesting explanations and pictures on the french forum:
http://toshiba-tg01.forumactif.com/t1205-tuto-demontage-du-toshiba-tg01
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This is VERY interesting and well done description in the link you provided! I almost opened my phone but due to lack of appropriate courage and tools and understanding, I stopped for now, but will soon re-try!
I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
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I know this has been discussed before but I would like clarification on what I need to replace on my TF201. I am attaching pictures. I actually sat on my tablet and it damaged the LCD. The glass is fine but the display is not. Can someone tell me what I can do? Do I need to replace the whole screen? It powers on okay. Thank you!
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If the digitizer glass on the front is okay, you'll need to replace the LCD panel. The digitizer glass and the LCD are separate pieces. When you open your Prime, you'll see that the entire "display assembly" is a sort of sandwich. The digitizer glass is attached with dobule-sided tape to a thin piece of black plastic. The LCD is attached to the other side of the plastic with thin double-sided foam tape. Additionally, there are small brackets that hold the LCD to the plastic.
You're going to need to separate the LCD from the plastic with an exacto then clean away the remaining sticky foam crap. Order a replacement LCD, then reinstall.
Me, I reinstalled mine without using any sticky foam tape. I rely on the brackets. I'm glad I did it that way because I noticed a speck of dust after I re-assembled. It drove me nuts. If I'd used tape, I'd have never been able to get the piece of dust out.
A few notes: the LCD is VERY delicate and VERY fragile. Yours is already broken, so there's no real risk with the old one. The digitizer, comparatively, isn't quite as delicate. Still, BE CAREFUL when removing the LCD from the bracket. You DO run the risk of breaking your digitzer glass.
Also, leave the protective cover on the replacement LCD until the last possible moment of re-assembly. Use rubber gloves. You'll be unhappy if you leave a fingerprint on the replacement. Cleaning off fingerprints with alcohol or Windex risks breaking the new LCD. Did I mention that it's delicate?
Good luck
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
add video replace touch screen.
VirtueToVice said:
I do not know if this has been mentioned or brought up before, but I just wanted to let the G2 crowd know that if they want to go the cheaper route and replace just the digitizer on their G2, it is possible with patience! You will be separating the glass from the LCD with a little bit of heat and a lot of caution, so as not to bust that beautiful LCD that these things are packin'. As you all may already know, the front glass is the digitizer so it'll all be replaced and your touch will work again, without busting the bank! This should only be considered if you're a very handy person with some superfine motor skills.
All you really need is a steady heat source of around 200F. I use a griddle, similar to this
http://www.walmart.com/ip/16451315?...56276670&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=34449323470&veh=sem
Most people have one of these laying around in a cabinet.
Get on eBay and find the digitizer for the phone and some LOCA UV Adhesive. 10ML is way more than enough.
Take the phone apart, then lay the LCD/Digitizer face down on that griddle and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Use a razor blade to VERY CAREFULLY and slowly peel the glass back. You should see the glass separating from the LCD. Continue this and take your time until all of the glass is removed. Then clean the LCD. It takes some work, this glue is extremely sticky and the only thing I've found to completely remove it is Clorox Surface wipes. They're the kind that come presoaked with some kind of cleaner. Even those take a little elbow grease to completely remove the glue from the LCD surface. It should be shiny. A couple specs wont matter, the LOCA has proven to be great at hiding imperfections. Next you will remove the LCD from the frame of the phone. There will be some connectors following through the bottom half of the phone to the PCB that has the charging port on it. Once the LCD is removed, add a line of LOCA glue to the LCD about as wide as a cigarette. Lay your new glass down on that glue, being careful not to trap too many bubbles. If you have a couple, no problem. You can leave them if it doesn't bother you, or you can push them to the edges. Next, align the LCD with the handy little lines that are printed on the back of the glass. Get something to hold it together, clothespins or hair clamps will do fine. After clamping, once again ensure the glass is aligned properly with the LCD. Then all you have to do is take it outside, let it cure in the sun for about 5 minutes, clean the extra glue up and reassemble the phone!!! I've got one waiting for a glass to come in so as soon as I get that I'll try to post some pics. Enjoy the savings, and the adventure!
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Please post updates....with pics etc.
Have a perfectly good LCD at home now with damaged digitizer and frame I'd rather use vs playing around with these crappy Ebay replacement parts I've gotten in the past month
It is not easy to replace but it is very easy to damage LCD, it's not so expensive to buy new screen with digitizer and frames (90-100$) so i prefer to buy full lcd and dont try to replace digitizer.
I've got a Galaxy S III (i9300) with a very shattered front glass. The display and digitizer works just fine though. Menu, back and home buttons too. Everything is working, i just need to replace the front glass. I've once replaced the whole front package (LCD, Glass, Digitizer) on a Galaxy S2 very successfully so i have some form of experience.
Will be my first time replacing only the front glass. Unfortunately i wont be able to put any LOCA there as i dont have any UV light. I do however some regular adhesive 2mm tape that i will put around the screen to prevent dust and stuff from coming in. Also i dont have a IR thermometer and i will be using a hair dryer. I know how hot it has to be by feeling it. I should almost not be able to hold my hands on the glass. It might take a very long time but if its possible to do it, im willing to try.
What i'm worried about is the glass shards that are in the middle of the screen. Most shards end at the edge of the screen so i can apply pressure there when im removing the shards. But the shards in the middle have all edges on the digitizer. I cannot apply any form of pressure towards the digitizer so im worried of how ill remove them. Also the left lower corner around the menu button is full with tiny shards. like 0.5mm-3mm shards. Im wondering what is the best way of removing them? BTW i still got the touch screen protection plastic on. It got bubbles now cuz of the cracks.
Here is a picture of how cracked it is. Its not exact but close enough. Paint is OP.
The black spot in bottom is where the glass is simply gone. It fell of after time. I put some tape over it to cover it up so nothing can fall in.
Any advice on how to remove these shards?
Very appreciated
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
Where's your spirit of adventure?
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
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From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
deadsea said:
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
stubey said:
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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