Hi everyone. As you know, Android 4.4.4 has just came out, and it's already available on the developers.google.com, and with I/O taking place in just 5 days - the excitement for the future of Android is beyond imagination.
But, this tablet came out 1.5 years ago, and seeing how many updates were already released for N10 starting from 4.2 up 'till 4.4.4 - I'm concerned about one thing: is this the last official update this device will receive? But even if we'll get 4.5/5.0, the support of this tablet will end sooner or later, as the developer community will fade away one day.
So, when the dark hour comes - what will YOU do with your Nexus 10?
I'm having the not-so-great times with mine as the perfomance is slightly disappointing, especially the lack of RAM (only 1GB) and the lack of 3G/LTE capabilities (and having to tether it to my phone isn't always reliable, due to coverage and the battery drain coming from the Hotspot being turned on most of the time, as well as having two devices slowly eating away my data cap (with both devices having autosync on and the N10 being my main connectivity device when I'm not at home, mainly at university),
So, personally, I'm looking for alternatives... and there's quite honestly not so many of them out there :/
But enough about me, what's your call on this matter?
I will keep it and install a custom ROM - long life to AOSP
Or maybe will buy Xiaomi MiPad
I think we will receive two major updates, and that will be the same for Nexus 4.
Still a great Tablet in my opinion. I'm planning on keeping it for sometime to come and will always run latest available ROM.
Ill keep it until it dies. then if there is no new N10, I'll switch to something with HDMI out, probably the Surface 3 RT when it comes out.
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I'll be keeping it, sure it'll take longer to arrive unnoficial updates, but as long as I receive it I'll be glad. It's still a pretty good device, I guess I'd change it only in 2 more years, and it'll probably be either a new Nexus or a Sony tablet.
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My target from when I bought the N10 was to keep it for three years (clock started Mar 2013). I'm hoping my next purchase would have specs such as 64bit processor, 4GB memory, screen size and resolution no less than the N10. I definitely expect a screen color/Gama control app. As media consumption is my primary usage the best color reproduction is essential. The N10 can already handle the highest bit rate video in my collection I'd expect no less but that is not a stretch. I'd also prefer a Qualcomm processor but I'm flexible on that score.
The N10 has been a pleasant surprise in how much I use it. I couldn't have predicted the amount of my media consumption has moved from my PC to the N10. It's been a real eye opener.
Of the current crop of tablets the only one to catch my eye is Samsung's Tab S 10.5, except of course for Knox's ability to detect rooting and the resulting voiding the warranty. That's why both my phone and tablet are Nexus devices. Consumers need to be empowered as we are purchasing not renting despite what some companies think. Maybe the roomered Google's Silver program can provide that option. Knowing me I'll not be able resist rooting after the hardware checks out despite the risk.
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It will be custom ROM time. I used my Viewsonic gtablet with custom Roms till I purchased my Nexus.
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The Nexus 10 have 2gb ram and not 1?
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The Nexus 10 have 2gb ram and not 1?
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1GB available to the user, 1GB eaten away by the crappy Mali HPU, in the end I'm left with ~800MB free if I'm lucky, most of the time it varies from 700 to 500, which is unbearable
Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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Well that's only preview. Maybe the actual release will come
I'm still happy with mine. An Xperia Tablet Z2 with Nexus branding would get me to upgrade. Nothing else I have seen looks more interesting than my Nexus 10.
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Wait... Op the tab has 2 GB of ram. What bottlenecks our tablets is the GPU.
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I'll keep mine until it dies or I'll give to my son if something really good comes out that I really want
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Looks like we may have been officially/unofficially retired. No mention of the Nexus 10 in the Android L preview announcement. Looks like it's 4.4.4, which is still fine by me
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When the nexus 10 is no longer listed in the Google Play store then I'll believe it will not be updated with a Nexus 2.
When a tablet is no going to be produced it gets removed from the store.
The fact that it is still there leads me to believe something is still up with it.
But I'll keep mine.
I'm not changing my N10 until Nvidia comes out with a quad core Denver CPU, a Maxwell GPU and at least 4gb of RAM, so most likely at some point in the next year.
Looks like we should be getting the next upgrade. It will extend the life for another year easy. And then count on many devs out there that will do their best to bring future releases. Remember the hp touchpad? It went from gb and now I think is running kk.
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I'll keep it for sure. A tablet is not something I'm willing to upgrade as often as my phone.
With a little tweaking this tablet performs really well (custom ROM and kernel, over clocking CPU and GPU). From where I stand, the only thing holding the N10 back somewhat is its 2GB of ram. If it had shipped with 3GB its performance and multitasking would improve tenfold. Although ram management was drastically improved with kit Kat and I can't wait to see what android L does performance wise.
Non the less, I still enjoy it very much!
I love my N10 and will keep it long after it's "retired". It does everything I want it to do. Once it's retired, it will still do everything I want it to do.
I browse, email, and read books on it - that's basically it. I don't care about the latest games or apps.
I know I'm not the typical user though.
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hey guys just wondering if you guys are expecting any nexus 10 or nexus 7 updates. Just sold my nexus 10 and looking to buy either the next 10 or 7.
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hey guys just wondering if you guys are expecting any nexus 10 or nexus 7 updates. Just sold my nexus 10 and looking to buy either the next 10 or 7.
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Out of curiosity, why did you sell it? The next N10 will not be out till October-November. I'm interested in picking an N10 up, but want to wait for the 3G version.
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Out of curiosity, why did you sell it? The next N10 will not be out till October-November. I'm interested in picking an N10 up, but want to wait for the 3G version.
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it wasnt portable enough, pretty heavy. Loved the screen but needed something that i can take around more easier and maybe the next nexus 7 will be my solution
Seriously why? Portable? Even if Google releases the next nexus 7 it won't be available for a few months is that extra 3 inches weighing you down after all this time? I would have at least waited for a nexus 11 if it was really in production as it is worth an upgrade as the spec's potentially say...
Edit: you said you were looking for the next nexus 7 or 10 so why would you sell a 10 inch if you are still looking for one (possibly) as this one does everything a 10 inch android tablet does already. Sorry doesn't make sense bro, sounds more contradictory to what your saying... unless what your looking for is 3G etc that's the only deciding factor N10 doesn't
I roll with a Nexus 10 and Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 is for stuff that feels/looks awesome on a large screen, and the phone is for situations where carrying a Nexus 10 might not be ideal (exercising, Ingress, etc.)
The Nexus 7 would be a perfect device for me, if not for two things:
- Weaker hardware (compared to the Nexus 4 and 10)
- No rear-facing camera
A Nexus 7 with the chipset of the Nexus 10, 720p screen (or 1080p; non-optimized apps tend to not do too well on the N10's resolution), rear-facing camera, and GSM cellular would be the ultimate device for me :good:
If Google announced such a device... my N10 and 4 might go on sale relatively soon
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Seriously why? Portable? Even if Google releases the next nexus 7 it won't be available for a few months is that extra 3 inches weighing you down after all this time? I would have at least waited for a nexus 11 if it was really in production as it is worth an upgrade as the spec's potentially say...
Edit: you said you were looking for the next nexus 7 or 10 so why would you sell a 10 inch if you are still looking for one (possibly) as this one does everything a 10 inch android tablet does already. Sorry doesn't make sense bro, sounds more contradictory to what your saying... unless what your looking for is 3G etc that's the only deciding factor N10 doesn't
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I can fit a Nexus 7 in my pocket. A Nexus 10 has no chance at fitting in my pocket however... As for another deciding factor, rear-facing camera
Next gen Nexus 7 is likely to happen on this I/O, and if it is it then it should be out next month, not so sure about the next gen Nexus 10, might get a solo announcement later in the year like the N10 did.
Yeah i dont think that google will anounce the next 10 inch tablet yet. The nexus 10 only came out 7 months ago and hasn't really had time to sell as much as it can. If they anounce the next one then more people will want to wait for the new one and they'd have to drop the price of it a little to sell it. I think theyre going to wait a month or two more because more people are just starting to get interested in it and other android tablets. Now i just cant wait for the next update from google. Theres too many rumors going around and i just want to know whats true. Will it be 4.3 or 5.0?
A tablet's going to need a bag to be carried easily anyway. You might as well have the biggest you can.
lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?
You can fit it in your back pocket or a coat pocket but there is no way you'll be able to in the front. Unless you have some cargo pants on or something. It is too early for a Nexus 10 update (although Apple refreshed their last iPad after only a few months) but the Nexus 7 is in prime position for an update. I'll be picking one up on day 1.
I don't think we'll see Key Lime Pie at the conference and Jellybean could use some even more refinement (not sure what happened in the 4.2 update). I expect a separate announcement from Google sometime in the fall with Key Lime Pie and new Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 devices to go along with it. Maybe we'll get an LTE Nexus 4 but I'm not holding my breath on that.
With only one major 3 hour session scheduled on Wednesday, expect most of the emphasis on Chrome, Google+, and Android. I'll be tuning it on the fun.
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Most of the buzz that I've read says that Google will release a 4.3 update for Android, while holding off on the 5.0/Key Lime Pie until after Apple releases iOS 7.
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A tablet's going to need a bag to be carried easily anyway. You might as well have the biggest you can.
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lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?
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I was just going to say this. I dont have a Nexus 7 but i do have a GTab 2 7" that fits in the front or back pocket of any of my jeans. I can even fit the tablet and my phone in one pocket, or tablet and wallet. In the back pockets it sticks out about 2" on top, but in my front pockets the tablet is completely covered and cannot be seen by anyone.
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Most of the buzz that I've read says that Google will release a 4.3 update for Android, while holding off on the 5.0/Key Lime Pie until after Apple releases iOS 7.
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Do you have any information on what those 2 revisions would bring of new stuff?
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I roll with a Nexus 10 and Nexus 4. The Nexus 10 is for stuff that feels/looks awesome on a large screen, and the phone is for situations where carrying a Nexus 10 might not be ideal (exercising, Ingress, etc.)
The Nexus 7 would be a perfect device for me, if not for two things:
- Weaker hardware (compared to the Nexus 4 and 10)
- No rear-facing camera
A Nexus 7 with the chipset of the Nexus 10, 720p screen (or 1080p; non-optimized apps tend to not do too well on the N10's resolution), rear-facing camera, and GSM cellular would be the ultimate device for me :good:
If Google announced such a device... my N10 and 4 might go on sale relatively soon
I can fit a Nexus 7 in my pocket. A Nexus 10 has no chance at fitting in my pocket however... As for another deciding factor, rear-facing camera
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Bro the hardware is not alot weaker. You`re facin more lags on n10 than on n7 anyway. A dualcore is not enough for that resolution.
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Bro the hardware is not alot weaker. You`re facin more lags on n10 than on n7 anyway. A dualcore is not enough for that resolution.
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Core count doesn't tell the whole story or even mean much; GPU and memory play a bigger role in how content is handled on that resolution (unless a developer manages to render everything with the CPU for some reason, which I imagine is pretty hard to even code and pretty silly).
Regardless, the Nexus 7 is using a Cortex A9 Tegra 3 @ a max of 1.3GHz, which doesn't dominate benchmarks by itself. With some OC'ing and custom kernels, it becomes a bit better, but still nothing "amazing". A Nexus 10 uses a Cortex A15 Exynos 5 Dual with a max of 1.7GHz, which does manage to do a lot better even at stock, in theoretical benchmarks.
Hardware-wise, the Nexus 10 dominates over the Nexus 7. The Nexus 10 however does have a lot more pixels to push, which thus make the hardware avantage not "as" obvious (but still pretty noticeable in most scenarios). I have a newer-model 32GB Nexus 7, and I can say with a fact that I notice a pretty decent performance difference with general tasks, in-comparison to my Nexus 10. Disk I/O I believe is a weak point on the Nexus 7 too.
Only times where I find other devices performing better than my (stock) Nexus 10 is with unoptimized 3D games. After using a custom kernel which ups the chipset and GPU frequency though, there barely is any performance difference with those games.
But yeah, I do have a Nexus 7 and 10 available, and would be interested in seeing what I can do to experience "more lags".
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lol some people claim that their nexus 7 fits in their pockets, is that true?
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Fits in my side pocket (standard pockets on jeans) without problem.
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Core count doesn't tell the whole story or even mean much; GPU and memory play a bigger role in how content is handled on that resolution (unless a developer manages to render everything with the CPU for some reason, which I imagine is pretty hard to even code and pretty silly).
Regardless, the Nexus 7 is using a Cortex A9 Tegra 3 @ a max of 1.3GHz, which doesn't dominate benchmarks by itself. With some OC'ing and custom kernels, it becomes a bit better, but still nothing "amazing". A Nexus 10 uses a Cortex A15 Exynos 5 Dual with a max of 1.7GHz, which does manage to do a lot better even at stock, in theoretical benchmarks.
Hardware-wise, the Nexus 10 dominates over the Nexus 7. The Nexus 10 however does have a lot more pixels to push, which thus make the hardware avantage not "as" obvious (but still pretty noticeable in most scenarios). I have a newer-model 32GB Nexus 7, and I can say with a fact that I notice a pretty decent performance difference with general tasks, in-comparison to my Nexus 10. Disk I/O I believe is a weak point on the Nexus 7 too.
Only times where I find other devices performing better than my (stock) Nexus 10 is with unoptimized 3D games. After using a custom kernel which ups the chipset and GPU frequency though, there barely is any performance difference with those games.
But yeah, I do have a Nexus 7 and 10 available, and would be interested in seeing what I can do to experience "more lags".
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Fits in my side pocket (standard pockets on jeans) without problem.
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if yours is running good, fine.
my n7 with custom kernel is faster than ma n10, and this is only my opinion.
And disk i\o: the stock n7 has very bad, i know.
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So did anyone watch it and find anything interesting? I haven't heard any excitement about an upcoming update or any new threads popping up about it so I'm guessing it wasn't mentioned.
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Actually, it seems that the delay of Android 4.3 (or perceived delay) was to prove a point that I/O does not have to be a launch platform for Android updates.
4.3 is rumored to arrive ~June 10th.
See: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/white-nexus-4-and-android-4-3-reportedly-slated-for-june-10/
And: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333406/android-4-3-confirmed-google-developer-site/in/4095431
As for interesting; Google Play has a LOT of back-end upgrades. For one, Google Play Games! Osmos and Super Stickman Golf 2 already have integration for live multiplayer matches and achievements. Also, the "Designed for Tablets" section was finally added, dedicated to showing apps that have been optimized for tablets on said tablets Google Play Stores. THIS, I'm LOVING! See http://www.androidauthority.com/google-play-store-update-for-tablets-210150/
Also, All Access music subscription in the U.S. (Google's Radio/Music Streaming service, WITH a one-month free trial. $10 a month).
Then, there's also Hangouts, the replacement for Google Talk. Many people are complaining about it, the lack of features - but it is BEAUTIFUL. Gesture based, great pull-out panes and navigation, with hundreds of emoticons and platform compatibility across the PC, Android, and iOS. Video calling and messaging integrated, although we've lost voice calling. SMS integration is coming soon, according to a Googler. You also get read receipts! Loving that. Group chats are also easy to start, and picture messaging is included as well! It's gonna be great.
THEN there's the Galaxy S4 - Google Edition. Nexus-level firmware and Nexus-level updates! $600, but still...looks like Google is expanding the program a bit.
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Actually, it seems that the delay of Android 4.3 (or perceived delay) was to prove a point that I/O does not have to be a launch platform for Android updates.
4.3 is rumored to arrive ~June 10th.
See: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/white-nexus-4-and-android-4-3-reportedly-slated-for-june-10/
And: http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/15/4333406/android-4-3-confirmed-google-developer-site/in/4095431
As for interesting; Google Play has a LOT of back-end upgrades. For one, Google Play Games! Osmos and Super Stickman Golf 2 already have integration for live multiplayer matches and achievements. Also, the "Designed for Tablets" section was finally added, dedicated to showing apps that have been optimized for tablets on said tablets Google Play Stores. THIS, I'm LOVING! See http://www.androidauthority.com/google-play-store-update-for-tablets-210150/
Also, All Access music subscription in the U.S. (Google's Radio/Music Streaming service, WITH a one-month free trial. $10 a month).
Then, there's also Hangouts, the replacement for Google Talk. Many people are complaining about it, the lack of features - but it is BEAUTIFUL. Gesture based, great pull-out panes and navigation, with hundreds of emoticons and platform compatibility across the PC, Android, and iOS. Video calling and messaging integrated, although we've lost voice calling. SMS integration is coming soon, according to a Googler. You also get read receipts! Loving that. Group chats are also easy to start, and picture messaging is included as well! It's gonna be great.
THEN there's the Galaxy S4 - Google Edition. Nexus-level firmware and Nexus-level updates! $600, but still...looks like Google is expanding the program a bit.
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Awesome. Thanks for the news and I agree about the hangouts app it looks great and optimized great for the nexus 10. I haven't seen the new tablet section yet but ill have to check it out soon.
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In your opinions...
1. will the next nexus 10 jump in price like the N7 did?
2. did 4.3 for YOU make any big differrences as far as lag? and battery life?
3. is it worth buying a used N 10 right now for around 315?
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1. No. If anything the price will decrease because it's Asus.
2. I bought mine 2nd hand last month for £220 and 4.3 was just out by that time so I have no experience of 4.2. I can say that 4.3 is a great experience and super smooth. Battery is about 8 hours for me.
3. TBH I would wait till next month for the announcement before buying a 2nd hand N10. Wait to see what Asus have in store. They might even drop the price of the Samsung N10 like they did with the N4.
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In your opinions...
1. will the next nexus 10 jump in price like the N7 did?
2. did 4.3 for YOU make any big differrences as far as lag? and battery life?
3. is it worth buying a used N 10 right now for around 315?
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To answer your questions:
1. Seeing as the Nexus 10 is already a $400-$500 device and most high end Android tablets usually max out around this price point I don't believe the next Nexus 10 will jump in price.
2. In my own personal experience with 4.3, the overall experience feels slightly more fluid then 4.2.2 and my battery life has also improved on 4.3.
3. For this used Nexus 10 your buying is it the 16 GB or 32 GB version? That being said the Nexus 10 is still one of the best tablets on the market and still worth the money.
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dvigue said:
In your opinions...
1. will the next nexus 10 jump in price like the N7 did?
2. did 4.3 for YOU make any big differrences as far as lag? and battery life?
3. is it worth buying a used N 10 right now for around 315?
Thanks guys...
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1 - NFI
2 - 4.3 made a huge impact to smoothness for me. While it was always quite quick, I used to still get stuttering when scrolling webpages etc, that is mostly gone now. I think its is mainly due to the implementation of TRIM in 4.3 which helped a lot. One leftover anoyance that is still around and can happen from time to time is the reloading of the UI when closing/switching apps
3 - I think it is the best tablet out there, it is still better than anything else out there almost a year after its release
I have a bit of an addiction to having the latest model. With my phone I sell my old one and buy the new one. I think the tablet market has got a lot better for app support but don't believe tablets are there yet to upgrade once the next model is released. I will be sitting on this device for another year unless there is a significant reason to upgrade. This is a great tablet and being a nexus line looking forward to the os (kitkat 4.4)
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I saw the news of the new N10 coming out but going to be manufactured by ASUS. The current N10 is manufactured by Samsung. I read of problems and issues with tablets made by ASUS. The specs on the current N10 are still awesome. Because of these, I just purchased by N10, refurbished from Walmart. It is a great tablet.
Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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Just curious as to what the next Android device you want to get? Things keep advancing so fast, quad cores are coming to trend now and with Kit-Kat, there are a lot of possibilities. I'm considering switching from Sprint to AT&T, to get the LG G2! I'm so tired of Sprint and how crazy slow they are... I can get more, and significantly faster data with AT&T. The beizels on the G2 are a huge selling point for me, fitting a 5.2 inch screen into the same form factor as an HTC One is impressive. Not to mention the quad core 2.2 GHz processor on it... That's ridiculous, and I love my Nexus, but my god, that makes this look average... What about y'all?
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I know what you mean! Things are progressing at such a ridiculous rate in the mobile world; its incredible. Especially Intel. They've made an absolutely shocking amount of progress in the past year. They've basically done what took ARM companies 3-4 years in 12 months. I'm really looking forward to Intel chips in our smartphones and tablets; we'll finally be able to crush Apple's in-house designs!
As for my next device, I'm definitely going to be getting the Nexus 5. A 5" device with a Snapdragon 800, OIS, Android 4.4 and other incredible hardware? Count me in! I sold my Galaxy Nexus a few weeks back, after the Nexus 4 price drop (I got a shockingly good price for it, too) in preparation for the N5. Now, I realize that SOME of the leaked specifications may not be totally accurate, but I am also hoping that we get the 5" display in the smaller-than-Nexus 4 frame. That would totally sell it for me.
I will probably will continue to use my galaxy nexus until it dies. It have been an excellent phone.
If it dies however I will buy the Nexus 5 midst likely.
I don't think i could use anything else other than a Nexus and be happy with it. Mainly because of the updates.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition. Used the Spencer features and they can't be beat if doing a large amount of sketching.
But I may wait until spring as the N10 is still great. Use a capacitive stylus with good results.
I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
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You are good for a long while. I fully agree. There's a lot of life left in this tablet.
Wait for the 2015 edition to be released Oct 2014
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I only got the Nexus 10 this summer, so I'm good with my tablet for a long while I hope.
My Droid RAZR M I got last October, so I would sooner replace that. If I decide to leave Verizon next time, then I may well go for a Nexus for a phone as well. I love getting the latest official updates OTA.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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CrocadileUT78 said:
I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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Sigh... me, too. I've been wanting to come on this thread and pledge allegiance to the phone I hope the Nexus 5 will be. If it's a Snapdragon 800 / Adreno 330 / 1080p / 3000 mAh G2 with standard button placement and at least 2 Gb of RAM... running pure, unbloated, updated Android... then the Nexus 5 will be a stun-gun of a phone for 2013. (darn it... just drooled on my N10.)
But... we get all that and no removable memory? I know, that would mean space, weight, cost, whatever. But Samsung can do it on their flagships (with the added benefit of replaceable batteries). Seems like such a simple thing for winning freedom from needing access to a good WiFi signal.
If the N5 overcomes the N4's hardware limitations that now prevent the use of Nexus Media Importer -- and along with it the unrooted read/write use of USB card readers & memory sticks -- that'd go a long way. Let's just say I'm not holding my breath, since Google appears to have a different agenda.
For a brand that touts such an open OS, the box they put it in sure is closed.
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I actually gave this some more thought, and I do not think I will go Nexus on my next phone for one reason, I want to keep a microsd slot. I keep a ton of music and other files on my phone I simply don't need on my tablet, and it irritates me such a simple convenience is being phased out by so many new phones. Screw the cloud model, I want my files on me when I want them without a connection.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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I always only had 16 gb Sd cards so going from 16 gb s3 to 32 gb HTC didnt make a single difference for me I have 8 gb of music and about 10 gb free on device for movies, and i think thats the space i need.
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OK... But you had to pay a lot more for that 32GB model I bet. My Droid RAZR M came with 8GB built in, and for only $20 I added another 32GB. I can even upgrade it to a 64GB microsd for less than $50. Good luck trying to get that kind of bargin upgrade on a non-microsd phone. Another added benefit... Let's say your phone meets an untimely death in the laundry machine, well at least with microsd your photos and music are perfectly safe.
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I'll get a Galaxy Nexus 2 when it comes (I hope it does). My Galaxy Nexus holds up for a while and I use my Nexus 10 for gaming. I'm not a fan of lg. I hope Samsung will produce a Nexus phone again.
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one vote for Sammy, for their expandable memory
I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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I've got my eye on a couple of future devices.
I'm hoping with the SG Note 3, the LG G2 -- and hopefully the Nexus 5 -- already or soon to be running the Snapdragon 800, we'll start to see some cool 64-bit apps. When the 64-bit world takes hold, that could be a nice time to pick up a SG S5. Samsung should have multitasking to a new level by then, too.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 32GB model. Already have it on pre-order. I had always said that the perfect device would be the Note 10.1 with the Nexus 10 screen, and voila! Can't wait!
An 8 inch Android tablet, probably the LG G Pad 8.3 because it's the first one to have 1080p. Or the next Note 8.0.
The Nexus 10 is too big to play games, etc.
Also maybe the next Nexus 5.
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Hope Snapdragon 800 has better battery management than Snapdragon 600 or else i wouldnt worth it to upgrade imho. The speed upgrade means nothing, only think that makes your phone faster is a well tuned rom/kernel. My ex Galaxy S3 with Cm10.2 and a custom kernel is the fastest thing i've ever used by a ridiculous mergin. Everything happens instanlty and its last gen,
Also my HTC ONE with the 4.3 official Rom is also like a new phone. So much faster and battery life is like 2x what it used to be.
SideNote for Lg G2. Will lg EVER make a decent looking phone? I am sorry but i dont care if Lg G2 is the best phone ever released, its so boring looking i would never consider buying.
Maybe Nexus 5, need to wait and see
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I agree that there's no point in trying to go any faster than 'instantly' ...sounds like you had a sweet setup with your S3!
With Kit Kat supposedly supporting ARM-64 and with Qualcomm, Tegra & Exynos -- and AMD & Intel? -- all producing 64-bit mobile processors in 2014, some interesting 64-bit applications might not be far behind, as well as some significant energy demands, like you've pointed to. I bet power-management & battery-design teams are putting in all-nighters to bring us more innovations like big.LITTLE... and to overcome the downsides of lithium-sulfur technology, which could increase battery life by a factor of 4.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about new processors running 32-bit apps faster, though there will, of course, be some performance gains as we'll as some overhead hits. I was thinking about the new capabilities heading our way once applications cross over into 64-bit territory -- whenever that is -- and not just better encryption and data-bunkering.
We'll be looking at real-time audio and image editing, providing such things as on-the-fly video-effects management... and faster vector processing, which game devs will surely take advantage of, like Infinity Blade III has for Apple's new phone. I'm eager to see the impact of 64 bit on multimedia multitasking. General improvements in multitasking could get us to the 32-bit 4Gb RAM ceiling surprisingly soon.
After that, the 64-bit RAM upper limit of 16 Exbibytes -- 17.18B Gigabytes -- should hold us a while!
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I agree, the G2 looks kinda plain -- at least while viewing it on a 2D screen. Could be pretty comfortable in the hand, though, with those backside curves. I was a little surprised, papakaliati, to hear you say you're interested in the Nexus 5 after what you had to say about LG and specifically their G2. Most folks are thinking it will be LG manufacturing the Nexus 5 and that it'll look a lot like the G2.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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I am hoping it will keep a more nexus line than LG but then again I might be just dreaming. New Note would be an instant by if I didn't have the nexus 10.
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They already have pics of the nexus 5 and a 3d rendering. You should check them out. The phone is a. Little plain. They got rid of the glass back and went with that rubbery plastic which is better durability i guess but not as good looking. They also got a bigger screen then nexus 4 with a smaller frame. :sly:
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In the G2's favor, this is an interesting market differentiation:
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So I'm kind of amazed there isn't a thread on this rumor yet. What better way to reenter the tablet market than with a nexus! For me, personally, this is a dream come true. I think that HTC uses the best displays of any manufacture currently and I would love to see one in a tablet. Maybe a 2k slcd4?
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I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Considering the price of Nexus devices, I don't think HTC, if it makes the next gen Nexus 10, will use aluminum metal body. Samsung already did a good job in terms of build quality of the current Nexus 10.
Hope next gen Nexus 10 can be as light as the iPad Air.
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I am so going to get it if HTC makes the next gen n10... Boom sound front facing speakers with that aluminum metal body would be just awesome... Smart move by Google to compete with them ipads
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Can you please post link to this roumor
Thank you
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Can you please post link to this roumor
Thank you
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http://news.yahoo.com/htc-reportedly-working-google-nexus-10-tablet-122516053.html
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I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
I posted a comment about a future Nexus 10 when the current one ran out of stock in US. It was sometime ago, but I'd like to share how the next Nexus 10 should be for me .
(when asked what would the next Nexus 10 should have) For now I will keep my Nexus 10, it's still a beast device as I stated and I like to keep my high end devices for at least 2 years. But there are some things that could be upgraded ^^.
First - More storage. I bought the 32GB and I still think it's not enough. Probably a 64 or 128GB version would be amazing, as it's a media consumption device it requires storage, as not everyone can use cloud services, and a full HD movie is quite big.
Second - Add LTE option like they did with Nexus 7.
Third - Use Snapdragon 805 or Tegra K1 processor, they are true beasts, and tablets need to push more pixels, so a better graphics processor is important.
Fourth - If going with the Tegra K1, it would be an interesting (actually it's more of a dream of mine here, very hard for this to happen now) to have a 4K screen, current Nexus screen is already killer, a 4K would be a mass destruction device lol. While it's still a dream the 4K screen on it, they could make it LED at least, so the complaints of light bleeding would reduce drastically.
Fifth - Samsung, Asus, Sony or Motorola create it. Samsung sucks with software, but the software here would be Google, so it's no problem. Asus proved to be a great tablet developer with the last Nexus 7s. Sony has the most beautiful devices ever, and adding water resistance to a Nexus would be very cool. And Motorola developed Xoom, which is a great device and the godfather of Android tablets, would be great to see them developing a new one. (As rumors seems to be, this one won't be any true lol, but I have expectations that HTC can do a good job too).
Sixth - More RAM would be appreciated ^^'.
Seventh - More accessories at a better price would be of great use too.
And I think it's only that I can imagine for the next Nexus. There aren't main flaws on the current one now. Almost all the problems went away with the KitKat upgrade, and I'm happy with it .
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"Time is too short to cry, long enough to try." - March of Time (Helloween)
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I would take all these rumours with a pinch of salt and then add another sack of the stuff.Wasn't that long ago we were hearing various release date rumours and now we are hearing rumours of a new manufacturer.Basically Google haven't even found a supplier yet let alone a delivery date! Personally I don't think there will be a replacement hence why I bought the old nexus 10 after waiting and waiting and waiting and eventually giving up on RUMOURS of a new device coming soon.I do hope to be prooved wrong though.
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I expect there will be a new Nexus 10 because it is out of inventory and has been for about a month.
If they were not restocking it or replacing it with a new one then why is it even listed on the play store site and why does it say check back soon?
When they no longer make or offer something it is removed from the site.
So it seems obvious that something will replace it.
IMO, the rumors of who will build it have no basis.
The sites who post thees articles get paid by the advertisers.
To get paid they need to draw people to the site.
They write one thing one day and something totally different the next, sometimes contradicting themselves.
Personally I heard Sony will build it at Dell and label it as a Samsung tablet and sell it in an HTC box and it will run Android 7.3 (nestle crunch).
I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the Nexus 9? And if I would be worth selling the Nexus 10 and jumping ship out wait until 5.0 lollipop is out and then see how out tablets hold their own.
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I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the Nexus 9? And if I would be worth selling the Nexus 10 and jumping ship out wait until 5.0 lollipop is out and then see how out tablets hold their own.
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Wait for the update. It's said to have improved performance on nexus devices.
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I'm gonna wait for the update on mine. I really hope it improved the tablets performance and battery life. Because my batteries starting to suck. If it doesn't really make a difference i may sell mine but i probably won't get the nexus 9. I'm waiting to see how the xperia z4 tab turns out because the z3 compact like like a beast though i want something bigger.
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I'm going to wait and see what "L" brings to the N10. Still a very good device in my opinion.
Having Similar thoughts!
The specs bump up is not that signficant for an 'upgrade' to N9. I would prefer to hold on the nexus 10 unless there is a very good trade in offer.
Yeah I think I'll wait then. I was so disappointed with the kitkat update as it seemed to of made my tablets performance rubbish. When I had it, it was quick, snappy and a dream then the dreaded update and went down hill from there. I hope the 'L' update sorts that. But I can be doing with the wait haha so jealous of the guys with there nexus 4/5 haha.
I love my N10 and don't really have any issues with it. Like many, I use a custom ROM because it seems to get faster response to bug fixes and has more customizations. At first there were only a few ROMs and now there are many of them to choose. If I were to consider an upgrade, it would be to for possibly a bigger unit such as a 12" or 14" - even though I like the 10".
Already ordered Nexus 9. 10's battery is getting weak, screen has the yellow splotch and keeps getting buggier. I may keep the 10 for use around the house, but it won't stay as my daily user.
I think the nexus 9 looks nice, but I'm keeping my 10.
While I do like 4:3 aspect ratio more thatn 16:9, since I do mostly reading on the tablet, I don't see any big improvement on the Nexus 9, so I'm going to keep my N10 for a while.
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The specs bump up is not that signficant for an 'upgrade' to N9. I would prefer to hold on the nexus 10 unless there is a very good trade in offer.
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'Not significant'?? Well i guess it depends in what area. The screen resolution is similar, but the screen cant possibly be anything other than far better. Its got more up to date Wifi, much much faster RAM and more of it, a CPU thats at least 5x faster in raw terms and a GPU thats an order of magnitude faster at least.
And all those specs on the N9 weren't necessary if Lollipop would truly bring an enormous performance update [emoji6]
I think we (the N10) can also forget the "coloring notification bar" like my N5 has with apps which have Material Design (like Gmail: red; Documents: blue; etc), because we didn't have transcluent not bar either with KitKat.
I'm intersted in seeing how well is N10 going to perform with 5.0, but I'm decided on getting the Nexus 9 anyway - I think the 4:3 9" device is a good compromise for using one device at home and outdoors or at university rather than having two separate devices for each task (I currently go to uni with N10 and use N7 at home due to its weight and portability)
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And all those specs on the N9 weren't necessary if Lollipop would truly bring an enormous performance update [emoji6]
I think we (the N10) can also forget the "coloring notification bar" like my N5 has with apps which have Material Design (like Gmail: red; Documents: blue; etc), because we didn't have transcluent not bar either with KitKat.
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So it won't be transparent in lollipop either? That's sad and just seems like a lazy decision. I highly doubt that it lowers performance. Almost every custom rom has it as translucent and I haven't seen any performance drops on there
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So it won't be transparent in lollipop either? That's sad and just seems like a lazy decision. I highly doubt that it lowers performance. Almost every custom rom has it as translucent and I haven't seen any performance drops on there
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Lollipop AOSP is being pushed!!
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Yep I saw that just now as well. I can't wait hopefully we can get a factory image soon as tonight or tomorrow. (Its 6:36 right now eastern time) and still like 2:30 mountain time I think so its still resonab!e to expect it to day
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I'm still very much sitting on the fence on this one. I use my N10 almost exclusively in portrait mode and find it really heavy and awkward to hold. Plus web browsing (and even PDF editing on large PDF's) on the N10 can still be a sluggish experience. The N9's 4:3 aspect ratio, ~180g weight saving and ultrafast chip would be really helpful in countering my main gripes with the N10.
The initial reviews though don't sound hugely promising - especially about the poor battery life (4-5 hours) and flimsy back cover...
Hm...
Quite a few big reviewers have slated the N9 saying it's simply not worth the price tag.
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Quite a few big reviewers have slated the N9 saying it's simply not worth the price tag.
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Most of them have reviewed it before am 800 mb ota came out to fix any issues. They should've waited and Google should've not let them review until the ota was out. Wait for android authority's review they said they're gonna do it after spending a good amount of time with it. Also it's releasing at the same price point as nexus 10 and 20 dollars cheaper than nexus 10 for 32 GB version. So it's not really bad pricing. People just think that because of the nexus 7 being so cheap. Anyways you pretty much get an upgraded processor, upgraded GPU (which is very much needed for nexus 10) boom sound speakers (though the nexus 10 front speakers are pretty decent themselves) more compact device with only 1 inch smaller screen, much lighter and easier to hold. Slight camera upgrade as well. And probably a better screen even though the resolutions are the same. It's not that much of an upgrade over the nexus 10 but it's an update definitely. I myself am sticking with my nexus 10 since for my needs as a media device and some school stuff it's perfectly capable. Maybe I'll upgrade next year but after the nexus 10 I don't think I'll be getting a tablet anymore. More likely I'll get a touch laptop or one of those two in ones.
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Most of them have reviewed it before am 800 mb ota came out to fix any issues. They should've waited and Google should've not let them review until the ota was out. Wait for android authority's review they said they're gonna do it after spending a good amount of time with it. Also it's releasing at the same price point as nexus 10 and 20 dollars cheaper than nexus 10 for 32 GB version. So it's not really bad pricing. People just think that because of the nexus 7 being so cheap. Anyways you pretty much get an upgraded processor, upgraded GPU (which is very much needed for nexus 10) boom sound speakers (though the nexus 10 front speakers are pretty decent themselves) more compact device with only 1 inch smaller screen, much lighter and easier to hold. Slight camera upgrade as well. And probably a better screen even though the resolutions are the same. It's not that much of an upgrade over the nexus 10 but it's an update definitely. I myself am sticking with my nexus 10 since for my needs as a media device and some school stuff it's perfectly capable. Maybe I'll upgrade next year but after the nexus 10 I don't think I'll be getting a tablet anymore. More likely I'll get a touch laptop or one of those two in ones.
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Well the N10 is both moving much more pixels (1600 x 2560) and the density is higher as well (300 ppi vs 288 ppi).