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I tried to fix my GPS problem with the Hardware fix and accidently broke the cheap lead that you need slightly bend.
what can I do to fix my GPS?
You'll need to build some solder up on it, then file it flat to the right height so it makes good contact with the antenna, I broke mine as well on my 1st phone, but the up side is, using the solder buildup made for awesome sat reception, my 2nd phone i used hard plastic between the c shaped brass contact to keep it elevated so it wouldn't lose tension, but the solder still has it as the best, but in your scenario u have no their choice now, short of replacing the MB or maybe josh at mobile tech in Texas may be able to solder another contact on, but again that means sending it to him= down time with the phone plus added$$ as well, but those are your choices right now, Good Luck, if you don't know how to solder find someone who can with a sharp pointed iron otherwise you or them will destroy the board, and don't forget to use flux and prep the broken piece clean so the solder will adhere.
i broke the tab off too many months back and unfortunately i don't have great soldering skills or the correct soldering iron either i improvised and bought a piece of copper wiring at Home Depot, i bought a foot of it, but you only really need like 1mm of it.. once cut i filed it down enough so that it can make contact on both sides as well as put a piece of tape to make a pseudo-blockade so the piece of copper is secure when closed. It's not the first choice of repair, but if you are out of options this might work for you. The best accuracy I can get with this method is around 30-50feet average (outdoors). it can never get better than that, i am assuming because the signal isn't getting transferred optimally.
I wouldnt do this If I were you
candyman123 said:
i broke the tab off too many months back and unfortunately i don't have great soldering skills or the correct soldering iron either i improvised and bought a piece of copper wiring at Home Depot, i bought a foot of it, but you only really need like 1mm of it.. once cut i filed it down enough so that it can make contact on both sides as well as put a piece of tape to make a pseudo-blockade so the piece of copper is secure when closed. It's not the first choice of repair, but if you are out of options this might work for you. The best accuracy I can get with this method is around 30-50feet average (outdoors). it can never get better than that, i am assuming because the signal isn't getting transferred optimally.
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First of all candyman, not flaming you or disrespecting you, but I think that's a very BAD suggestion, because if that piece of copper ever becomes dislodged, say to dropping the phone and it drifts into the MB or anything that's carrying current thru it, it will short over to whatever each end touches, and that would be catastrophic for the Phone, and would truly be a Totally Hard-bricked situation, the phone would have to be rebuilt with new components that were affected by the shorting. Just saying that anytime you have a unsecured piece of metal moving around circuitry, its just a matter of time before it shorts out. Soldering is still his best option or send to Josh at Mobile tech.
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First of all candyman, not flaming you or disrespecting you, but I think that's a very BAD suggestion, because if that piece of copper ever becomes dislodged, say to dropping the phone and it drifts into the MB or anything that's carrying current thru it, it will short over to whatever each end touches, and that would be catastrophic for the Phone, and would truly be a Totally Hard-bricked situation, the phone would have to be rebuilt with new components that were affected by the shorting. Just saying that anytime you have a unsecured piece of metal moving around circuitry, its just a matter of time before it shorts out. Soldering is still his best option or send to Josh at Mobile tech.
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haha thank you for the serious concern and i have thought about the dangers myself and i know it's super ghetto fix but i do have a piece of tape covering the "side to side" movement of the copper piece so if it does somehow get dislodged it can't move anywhere. the "up and down" movement is being stopped by the sandwiching of the vibrant case/contacts.
although i do need to recheck/refile the copper piece down. i might consider a more safer/permanent fix
Hopefully your phone is under warranty.
Or you don't really use the GPS.
IDK Why???
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Hopefully your phone is under warranty.
Or you don't really use the GPS.
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OMG, what is the problem here, soldering is about as easy as it gets, Hell cooking a meal is way more involved than soldering, IDK why people bail on simple fixes and immediately risk going for a warranty when it may kick you in the balls, when they open it up and discover the tab broke, and send ya a 399$ bill in your next invoice!!
help me pls, read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22197595&postcount=941
Now we know that the full metal back plate is the sole reason of weak WiFi and bad GPS performance.
ASUS admited it, and we can read as well explanation from AnandTech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5285/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-gps-issue-explained
So, what's the chance of ASUS redesigned the back plate?
Probably just patching the antenna area with plastic, that should be enough.
That would be awesome!
People used to laugh at Samsung because they always put plastic back cover. Now, suddenly we all need plastic one!
imho we still know nothing at all about the effects of the backplate.
Asus may well just be saying that because they got sick of the spam.
Until someone picks it apart and actually tries GPS without the backplate,
its all just merely a bunch of speculations.
It's amazing how dumb the engineers were know this one..... Not only the aluminum backplate but the placement and execution of the speaker is horrible not big enough holes to let the sound out well. Also just realized with Bluetooth on my speedtests are basically cut in half. Hopefully they fired the entire engineering department and are designing a 2nd Gen Prime right now.
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imho we still know nothing at all about the effects of the backplate.
Asus may well just be saying that because they got sick of the spam.
Until someone picks it apart and actually tries GPS without the backplate,
its all just merely a bunch of speculations.
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Exactly.
Sokonomi said:
imho we still know nothing at all about the effects of the backplate.
Asus may well just be saying that because they got sick of the spam.
Until someone picks it apart and actually tries GPS without the backplate,
its all just merely a bunch of speculations.
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Yeah we do know the effects of the back plate. There's a reason why smart engineers do not shield GPS with aluminium. I am fairly certain that some Asus people got in trouble for such a mistake.
Can we get an aftermarket plastic backplate? I'd buy one in a second. This device would go from zero to hero in my book.
EDIT: Trouble? Dude there are a bunch of former ASUS engineers LFW.
Those of you who call it speculation. Make a pouch out of some aluminum foil, press speedtest and put the tablet into the pouch and close it. Voila, NO WIFI/GPS/BT. It's like magic.
Very slim to none at least in the near future. Not only do they have to redesign the backplate, but they need to re-position the GPS, Bluetooth, and Wifi. Once they have that set, Asus needs to rework their production line (which isn't cheap) to be configured to the new changes.
Once everything is figured out.. it'll be re-branded/tagged as TF 201A or something to that degree.
Just wish there was a way to make a round window in the backing like apple has around the asus logo and put plastic plug in.....
This could have been a ground breaking product. In my opinion they have ruined their reputation with this fiasco. I have a feeling within the next three months we'll be seeing primes coming out with some type of plastic window. Which of course it will be too late for us to return ours. When you put out a wifi only version the wifi better work flawlessly.
Isn't there some typ of spray coating they could have used on the inside of the backing or on the outside to help in radio reception?
Well, if there is aftermarket plastic back plate, question is how to replace it? I don't think that is an easy task. I expect there is no screw or something easy that we can crack open using common tool (screw driver).
To be honest, if I were ASUS, I will stop current production and change the back plate design. Several options:
1. Put rounded "window" patch from plastic large enough in the antenna area. Or something like the 3G model of Apple iPad with that black bar patch.
2. Put some kind of (speaker) grill there for aesthetic design and hide the plastic patch underneath it.
Not the whole back plate though.
Probably this will cost a lot of money to "change" their current order of (millions) back plate, but I think changing this is much better for their future product image/ reputation, rather than selling as it is now.
Granted, not all people do care with crap GPS (I don't care! I wont use it as car navigation), but for example with WiFi. Current situation, put people in "doubt". Even though many tests proved WiFi is OK, not great, but sufficient enough. However, the doubt feeling is there ... "Will the WiFi good enough at my house?" ... knowing the device is NOT designed perfectly ...
That Anandtech article is great. I like how he points out the the ipad 2 wifi model doesn't support GPS either.
That's what I've got my phone for.
gogol said:
Now we know that the full metal back plate is the sole reason of weak WiFi and bad GPS performance.
ASUS admited it, and we can read as well explanation from AnandTech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5285/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-gps-issue-explained
So, what's the chance of ASUS redesigned the back plate?
Probably just patching the antenna area with plastic, that should be enough.
That would be awesome!
People used to laugh at Samsung because they always put plastic back cover. Now, suddenly we all need plastic one!
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thanks for the link to that article. it was a good read. as far as the redisign goes, I'd side with what the Anandtech guy said and that it would be highly unlikely. too many units have been pushed out already. plus its main comoetitior, the wifi only ipad2 doesn't even have a GPS chip in it. only the 3g one. also the ipad2 having less wifi range than original Ipad based on placement of wifi antenna near speaker grill was a new one. if there is a redesign, it'll be down the road. too many units are being sold at a fast rate to stop production and redesign. despite the GPS flaw, this device is still selling like hotcakes. everywhere sells out instantly once available online. there are tons of people on backorder still. I still feel lucky to be able to own one so early. I'd do it all over again if I could.
now what would be cool is if Asus send us a voucher or something for a free 32gb memory card or major discount on a dock or something. I'd gladly take that instead.
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That Anandtech article is great. I like how he points out the the ipad 2 wifi model doesn't support GPS either.
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because it doesn't have a GPS receiver...not a valid comparison, he only stated this for "popularity" not functionality...
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Just wish there was a way to make a round window in the backing like apple has around the asus logo and put plastic plug in.....
This could have been a ground breaking product. In my opinion they have ruined their reputation with this fiasco. I have a feeling within the next three months we'll be seeing primes coming out with some type of plastic window. Which of course it will be too late for us to return ours. When you put out a wifi only version the wifi better work flawlessly.
Isn't there some typ of spray coating they could have used on the inside of the backing or on the outside to help in radio reception?
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I know you meant return it to the store you purchased it from, but the Prime has a 1 year warranty from Asus.
gogol said:
Well, if there is aftermarket plastic back plate, question is how to replace it? I don't think that is an easy task. I expect there is no screw or something easy that we can crack open using common tool (screw driver).
To be honest, if I were ASUS, I will stop current production and change the back plate design. Several options:
1. Put rounded "window" patch from plastic large enough in the antenna area. Or something like the 3G model of Apple iPad with that black bar patch.
2. Put some kind of (speaker) grill there for aesthetic design and hide the plastic patch underneath it.
Not the whole back plate though.
Probably this will cost a lot of money to "change" their current order of (millions) back plate, but I think changing this is much better for their future product image/ reputation, rather than selling as it is now.
Granted, not all people do care with crap GPS (I don't care! I wont use it as car navigation), but for example with WiFi. Current situation, put people in "doubt". Even though many tests proved WiFi is OK, not great, but sufficient enough. However, the doubt feeling is there ... "Will the WiFi good enough at my house?" ... knowing the device is NOT designed perfectly ...
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It's really not simple in business perspective. Asus really needs to be creative with their design because:
1. Prime got a lot of publicity for Aluminum backplate (they can't just replace the whole thing with plastic cover)
2. Apple patents.. Simply attaching RF window & Asus plastic cover to the likes of iPad 2 simply screams of lawsuit from Apple.
markimar said:
Just wish there was a way to make a round window in the backing like apple has around the asus logo and put plastic plug in.....
This could have been a ground breaking product. In my opinion they have ruined their reputation with this fiasco. I have a feeling within the next three months we'll be seeing primes coming out with some type of plastic window. Which of course it will be too late for us to return ours. When you put out a wifi only version the wifi better work flawlessly.
Isn't there some typ of spray coating they could have used on the inside of the backing or on the outside to help in radio reception?
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Asus reputation not ruined. The Prime is still the most desired and hard to find tablet out now. Despite GPS flaw, its still ground breaking technology. the GPS doesn't hold any weight when it comes to that title. at least we have a Gps chip period. ipad2 wifi version doesn't even have one. The Prime will still be known as the worlds first next generation Quad/5 core tablet that had alot of firsts. Best display out of any tablet out being another one.
as far as wifi goes,my unit doesn't have any issues or gripes in that regard. haven't noticed anything different than with my Ipad as far as connectivity and speed goes. once developers unlock bootloader and adjust the kernel values n such, we might end up having the best wifi of any tablet due to dual antennaes. plus we haven't even seen the positive impacts ICS will have on wireless performance with its updated drivers and better coding. only a few more days to go
shinzz said:
It's really not simple in business perspective. Asus really needs to be creative with their design because:
1. Prime got a lot of publicity for Aluminum backplate (they can't just replace the whole thing with plastic cover)
2. Apple patents.. Simply attaching RF window & Asus plastic cover to the likes of iPad 2 simply screams of lawsuit from Apple.
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Found an article about the patent:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...s-new-kind-of-logo-antenna-for-portables.html
So, as long as it is not a "logo", ASUS should be safe, no?
setite said:
Those of you who call it speculation. Make a pouch out of some aluminum foil, press speedtest and put the tablet into the pouch and close it. Voila, NO WIFI/GPS/BT. It's like magic.
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Yeah.. except the prime isn't a closed envelope, furthermore the GPS antenna isn't even facing towards the back.
If you want to do a REAL comparison, find a metal surface and put your phone ontop of it. See how the GPS reacts.
MAYBE it ll diminish just a little, but it will never be completely dead in the water like some if not most primes are.
gogol said:
Found an article about the patent:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...s-new-kind-of-logo-antenna-for-portables.html
So, as long as it is not a "logo", ASUS should be safe, no?
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You'll never know with Apple. Heck, they filed a lawsuit against Samsung for creating rectangular tablet (that and bezel and few other ridiculous reason).
setite said:
Can we get an aftermarket plastic backplate? I'd buy one in a second. This device would go from zero to hero in my book.
EDIT: Trouble? Dude there are a bunch of former ASUS engineers LFW.
Those of you who call it speculation. Make a pouch out of some aluminum foil, press speedtest and put the tablet into the pouch and close it. Voila, NO WIFI/GPS/BT. It's like magic.
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I don't know why everyone likes to point to a full metal enclosure as proof of the poor engineering design. Its not analogous to the prime at all.
I have actually made an aluminum foil backing for my phone out of curiosity and it had zero effect on my speedtest results (didn't check gps).
Basically everything is pointing to the metal backing is the cause of the problems, although I too would love to actually see the results with a unit sans backplate.
cry me a river.
gogol said:
Well, if there is aftermarket plastic back plate, question is how to replace it? I don't think that is an easy task. I expect there is no screw or something easy that we can crack open using common tool (screw driver).
To be honest, if I were ASUS, I will stop current production and change the back plate design. Several options:
1. Put rounded "window" patch from plastic large enough in the antenna area. Or something like the 3G model of Apple iPad with that black bar patch.
2. Put some kind of (speaker) grill there for aesthetic design and hide the plastic patch underneath it.
Not the whole back plate though.
Probably this will cost a lot of money to "change" their current order of (millions) back plate, but I think changing this is much better for their future product image/ reputation, rather than selling as it is now.
Granted, not all people do care with crap GPS (I don't care! I wont use it as car navigation), but for example with WiFi. Current situation, put people in "doubt". Even though many tests proved WiFi is OK, not great, but sufficient enough. However, the doubt feeling is there ... "Will the WiFi good enough at my house?" ... knowing the device is NOT designed perfectly ...
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so you're just going to repeat everything you heard Anand say?
None of that is going to happen, get over it.
So I was working on my phone, because in my apartment I went from having full signal/4g to having nothing whatsoever. Long story short, it turns out that T-Mobile is working on the tower and will have it resolved in 48hrs.
When working on my phone, I decided to slightly/gently bend the gold connectors on the back of the phone to ensure that they touch the back case firmly. In doing so, I accidentally/dumbly/n00bly snapped off a small portion of the pin. Not the bendy pin itself, but the smaller portion that is underneath it and attached to my phone. Is there any way to repair it? Will it effect my phone in anyway? Does anyone know what it does, exactly?
This is the one that I snapped off. It's the one on the right. Again, it's not the top/springy one that I snapped, but rather the tiny iode that ensures the springy portion makes a solid connection with the phone underneath.
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So I was working on my phone, because in my apartment I went from having full signal/4g to having nothing whatsoever. Long story short, it turns out that T-Mobile is working on the tower and will have it resolved in 48hrs.
When working on my phone, I decided to slightly/gently bend the gold connectors on the back of the phone to ensure that they touch the back case firmly. In doing so, I accidentally/dumbly/n00bly snapped off a small portion of the pin. Not the bendy pin itself, but the smaller portion that is underneath it and attached to my phone. Is there any way to repair it? Will it effect my phone in anyway? Does anyone know what it does, exactly?
This is the one that I snapped off. It's the one on the right. Again, it's not the top/springy one that I snapped, but rather the tiny iode that ensures the springy portion makes a solid connection with the phone underneath.
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you might be able to get away with using a pair of tweezers and superglue... but since its on the phone itself and not the battery cover you may have to send it in for repairs
ziggy46 said:
you might be able to get away with using a pair of tweezers and superglue... but since its on the phone itself and not the battery cover you may have to send it in for repairs
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I was thinking about soldering a small bit under there, to ensure it would make a solid connection. Think that would work? Also, do you have any idea what that actually DOES? Are all of the connections a part of the antenna?
Kobraki17 said:
I was thinking about soldering a small bit under there, to ensure it would make a solid connection. Think that would work? Also, do you have any idea what that actually DOES? Are all of the connections a part of the antenna?
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that might work, you will just have to be careful not to burn the main board or make connections between other components.
and those specific pins connect to the antennas in the battery door, so yea pretty much
FUUUU! lol Thanks a lot for the info. *facepalm*
So, as we all know the Omate TrueSmart is as waterproof as a leaky boat, or perhaps a sponge.
However, I don't think there are any other Horologists on the forum at the moment. ( wikipedia horologist http:// en.wikipedia.org /wiki/horologist ).
After looking at the "seals" on the case buttons, and the laughable o-ring that Umeox/Omate have chosen to use on the back, along with the piece of silicone flap that they are using to seal the SIM card... I have to say that expecting it to be water resistant to any degree is a bit laughable.
So, I have a solution, the same one used by Rolex, Omega, Breitling, Citizen, Seiko, etc.. etc...
* Liquid silicone sealant gel on the SIM card seal and flap.
* Replace the silicone o-rings for the watch back with a thin silicone gasket, with more sealant gel
* Retrofit and replace the button seals, or create black silicone button covers that better seal them
I'm going to have to look at the speaker port on the watchband. I don't know if there is a simple solution there to make it compliant for 1 meter depth without severely affecting the quality of the sound output from that port. A brief examination makes it seem that the port -might- be able to take IP67 conditions .. but without reinforcement, I doubt it could take the forces involved in a swim, waves, wakes, spas.
Still, I think I can put together a kit, and instructions that careful and diligent people could use to retrofit the TrueSmart to make it far more waterproof than the manufacturer does. The kit would cost between $15 and $25 US, mostly to cover the cost of making custom molds for the silicone gaskets. ( There is a local TechShop here in Austin, and I have a CNC mill to make the aluminum molds, and all the design experience and software I need. Even so, a small super-accurate mold is a couple hundred dollars worth of materials and work. )
If there is enough interest evidenced here on a poll, I'll make the kit.
Sincerely,
Martin Bogomolni
Maker, Horologist, Coder, and Machinist
Need to redesign the case so that the speaker is sealed as well.
I've read that the O-rings are different among different runs. If the shape of the part of the case they fit against is different as well, wouldn't that make this effort require potentially as many different molds as the number of firmwares Loki has been trying to contend with? Or is it just the ring that's been different?
The case design is different. There's at least two maybe three.
Then that means I'll need to make two or three variants of the kit. This will also require some externally-visible way to identify the differences between various batches of TrueSmart watches.
Lokifish Marz said:
The case design is different. There's at least two maybe three.
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I think, just an opinion, that if the gasket between the body and the back cover has holes for the screws to pass through it like on my Last of the Kickstarter Dev Eds, 1/8/1900, delivered first of the USA group in early Feb, then that gasket works if properly placed and screwed together. The housing on these is flat, without raised screw hole posts and no groove.
I think the main problem you are going to need to overcome is the buttons and the mic pinhole leaking.
The speaker, if it doesn't mind getting wet itself, provides no entry path into the body if the wire set going in has been properly sealed inside (white sealant on mine, I think). Water could destroy the speaker, OK maybe, but not the watch unless it can follow the speaker connections back up into the body. Where the band halves meet the body on both sides there is a hole through the body to let the cables through, sealed inside with some white stuff. Maybe sealed...
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The speaker is inside the case (under the square "bump" in the backplate) and uses nothing more than double sided tape. It is partly held into place by the plastic insert.
What is that open slot for then, in the band on the speaker side ?
Where the sound comes out ?
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Yep. (see attached image)
Yes I was also curious about how the waterproofness of the speaker and microphone port would be approached. But I'm definitely down for one of these.
For what it's worth, I've submerged (no more than 2ft) my NA 1gb/8gb OTS and used it in the shower after having opened the bottom. During the first week I was constantly checking inside the case for internal moisture and didn't see any. It's been a while, but I remember thinking the physical buttons looked like they would let water in if used while underwater, but that didn't seem to happen.
for giggles, my omate arrived with bad software, and only pulling the battery would fix it. I had first tried letting the battery die out but the vcom drivers didn't fully take until i pulled the battery, so the water seal warranty was moot from early on. I don't remember how long I waited, but I sent the following screen to cecilia and a few other mailboxes at omate for help with no response (surprise!) before pulling the battery and stepping through the restore guides.
Looking back, I can't even imagine how the bootloader got to be so trashed! Volume up and down you say?
I am in. Also shared on G+ and KS comments the poll, good luck!
Yep
I'm definitely in support of this. I created a kayaking app that is pretty useless with the watch the way it is... having this kit out there would be great.
Hi. I am a watchmaker (horlogist?) from Germany and its my daily job to make watches watertight.
I have access to professional measuring devices for checking the watches if they are sealed. It is testet via air pressure, no water. The watchcase deformation is measured by fine sensors and if it is deforming in the given parameters then the device says proof or leak. There are ranges from -0,8 Bar to +20 Bar.
Further tests to locate the leak are made with water tests.
I havent received my pre ordered true smart yet (but I own a simvalley AW-414.go). Before I would test the true smart I would like to know how much pressure it could take before the screen brakes.
After the long wait and seeing this IPx7 drama unfold, I decided to just flip my TrueSmart on delivery - and flog it on eBay/Amazon without ever opening the box. Depending on the delivery timeline and other factors (such as the impending release of the Polar V800 and Garmin fenix 2) I may reconsider that strategy if this "aftermarket waterproofing" plan gains momentum.
I checked the option to be willing to pay for professional install (having waited this long - and the fact that the V800 is another $100 more expensive than the TrueSmart) but I'm more than happy to do the install myself if the kit is solid. From what I gather in the initial post, it's going to be a far sight better than the factory seal. So, if I keep my TrueSmart I'd be in for either the home install or the pro install option.
FWIW - I could care less about using this phone in **** Tracy mode [trademark pending]. For my money, stuff a grommet in the ports and glue/seal them in place - my goal is to use the device for training.
DerUhrmacher said:
HThe watchcase deformation is measured by fine sensors and if it is deforming in the given parameters then the device says proof or leak. There are ranges from -0,8 Bar to +20 Bar.
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In a pressurized submersion test it will fill with water before anything else. The case was never tested beyond about 0.015 Bar and even then it wasn't tested properly (bare case, no buttons or straps and all the ports sealed in 15cm of water).
Them doing something as simple as not putting in the speaker right or the double sided tape not seal correctly on the speaker will negate any water resistance it may have had.
Had any luck looking into this?
I would definitely be interested in a kit to improve waterproofing...
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Me too ! I don't see a survey, maybe Tapatalk does not support surveys ?
I bought a NeverWet spray set from HomeDePot recently. They show how to treat an iPhone 5 by removing the back cover and spraying inside. I don't have an iPhone or I might try it. Wouldn't care...the stuff worked pretty good on my shoes though.
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In the meantime...
Hi horologists,
I was wondering: is there anything a layman could do in the meantime to, at least, improve the water sealing on the TrueSmart? I'm not interested in submerging it or taking a shower; I just don't want to be afraid that my watch will short if I get stuck in rain and put it in my pocket.
One of the things I obviously don't want to be doing is just smearing vaseline all over it as that'll ruin the silicone components, correct? I am currently purchasing silicone grease (dielectric so non-conductive) to improve the seals on the bottom and around the sim card case. What should I do about the buttons? Can I put more grease around their edges? Would vaseline be apprpriate there, since it's coming in contact with my skin and there seems to be no silicone gaskets? What's the best quick fix for buttons?
Sorry if these questions are stupid but... this is admittedly coming from a place of utter ignorance. : )
Take care and thanks very much.
Hi there,
for Years i'm reading here silently and i never register myself.
I'm German and i hope that my english is well enough that you can understand my Questions.
I have a Question, not about Software for Samsung S8, so that's the Point for me to register here.
Hope that is the right Place in this Forum for my Question.
In the Future i plan to buy a S8 second hand. My Money is small so the most second hand S8 are in need of repair (Frontglas & Backcovers). Nothing what a Human with skills can handle. But i want to mod the S8 on the Side of Hardware.
Here is my Question:
Is it possible to make a Backcover from Aluminium and to use it instead of Glascover?
My thinking is to get a Originalcover and then to rebuild one from Aluminium (Thin it must be). CNC, or Lasercut for the precision.
I've googled many hours in the Hope to find something like this, but nothing.
So i want to ask you.
I think a Backcover from Alu ist not so breakable as Glas, more stable, but is it to realize without elektrical Danger to Part of the Phone.
I don't like the Cases & Bumpers & so on. I want to make my Phone more personal.
Are my thoughts crazy, or not? What do you think?
Hope my thread here is ok and do not conflict with the Forumrules. Sorry if that happens, but otherwise i will be thankfull for an answer or discussion about this Topic.
Greets to all outhere...
Interesting idea! Personally I would go with a skin like dbrand or slikwrap even if the glass is broken. Personal look and you don't lose any wireless functionality
Make sure that you remove the wireless charging coil before this!
Aluminium Backcover-Possible or not
Hi there,
i'm living in a relativ small Town in Northern Germany, but i hope i can find some
Manufacturers that can realize my idea. Maybe i must give an Order to some Firma over Google, or so.
To j91hernandez:
Can you give me eventually some links to the products. In Germany there are unknown, i think. I want to take a look on it.
I ask myself: is a Alu-BC thick enough to protect the Phone like the Glas-BC?
Or must can i use a Metall-BC instead Alu? I don't know.
The other thing is: you must remove the Original-BC to apply the, maybe stronger, Mod-BC. But if the S8 has no Guarantee you can make it like you wish.
Glas-Cover looks great, but i've seen so much broken S8s to buy in Ebay-Second Hand Shop, so i wondering, why nobody change the BC of the Phone to avoid the use of Cases, etc.
With a well designed Metall / Alu-BC it must be better, i think. Maybe you can make it less slippery for your Hands, too.
But: is there Dangers for electrical Parts of the Phone, i mean short circuit between Parts? In wich Way it affects the NFC Functions, etc.?
Maybe try & error! I'm willing to do so if i have the Money to buy a S8. So i try to get any Infos about that Projectidea.
zoroarctic said:
Make sure that you remove the wireless charging coil before this!
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That's a Point! The Function of the Phone shall be at 100%, so i think i must look and read about Phones with Metall-BC AND Wireless Charging how they doing it.
There would be a chance the metal backing by witch one would have to possibly custom make curves and all. But may dampen WiFi bluetooth and wireless signals. Anything other than plastic glass or aluminum I would imagine would interfere with wireless charging as well. Absorbing or warping the magnetic field
But I would say if a man could bend the edges properly a hand held rotary tool would more than likely suffice to do all edging and cutouts for various sensors. I have had to make due with home made metal object before but precision be on this is a must. As water resistance is more than like gone with the wind on this mod.....
Which I support fully
HoosierDaddy said:
There would be a chance the metal backing by witch one would have to possibly custom make curves and all. But may dampen WiFi bluetooth and wireless signals. Anything other than plastic glass or aluminum I would imagine would interfere with wireless charging as well. Absorbing or warping the magnetic field
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I agree with this
A plastic back would make much more sense as it would bend easier than metal for the corners while allowing for wireless charging and not causing any kind of electrical shorting issues.
zoroarctic said:
I agree with this
A plastic back would make much more sense as it would bend easier than metal for the corners while allowing for wireless charging and not causing any kind of electrical shorting issues.
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Hi there,
ok, Plastic-Cover is another idea to think about.
But it looks not so good as Alu, or Metall. Hm, maybe th use of a Skin can make the Optic cooler than. Another Sideeffekt is that the Plastik is covered then against big sctratches. No Danger for short circuits then and hopefully no problems with wireless charging and so on.
To Build such an BC is easier, right. Bending and cut out the Holes, that's all what we can make ourselves (if you are not Double-Lefthanded).
Thanks for the Input. Will think about that and trying it if i have my S8 in the Future.
A Fullbody-Cover protects the Phone completly (Front+Back), but on the other Side it is more thicker, unhandy. Often the Buttons are not good to press, and such things.
if you insist on aluminium/metal, then you are going to have to give up some functionalities. otherwise, plastics would be your only option. wood might be a viable option too, however durability would be an issue with the material.
imho though, you mentioned that you have limited money and if you're going to get an aluminium/metal/wood back cover machined by someone, it's going to cost more than you would think. replacement glass are way cheaper and as the other user suggested, you have vinyl wraps to get the look that you want