[Q] Google Play Music, Walkman or something else? - Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im trying to get music figured out on my Z2. Really its been the only thing bothering me. Since switching from the iPhone two years ago Ive been using Google Play music. I hate how it doesnt store music on the device though. I get it though, switch devices and its always there on the Google app. But if you dont have a data connection or dont want to use a ton of data its not good. I started doing the PIN to device but I still dont see any music locally. Ive bought songs and I want them on my device.
What is everyone using on the Z2? Walkman? Google? Or what? So far the Google music doesnt seem to wanna play nice but maybe that was just while it was trying to download my songs.

Well I think I might be a corner case here, but I use Google Play Music and sync my library with iTunes using iSyncr. It's paid, but for the most part it gets the job done and transfers album art plus the other metadata and updates my playcounts.
Call me a luddite or afraid of change, but most of my songs are in 320kbps and I enjoy the quality through good headphones. There's a few apps on the Play Store that can sync your current collection on iTunes to the device. I bought iSyncr a long time ago, not sure if there are better options available but it works for me.

Well, I used that Google guide for switching to Android back when I got my Nexus but it didnt seem to move all my music for some reason. I still have my iTunes collection so maybe I need to revisit syncing it again.

I used PowerAmp with my last phone but once you get used to the walkman app it's great. You can get better sound quality from its settings too.
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I used to use ITunes, then with my Android devices I've always just manually stored all my music on my external microsd. Usually I use Poweramp but this being my first Sony device I'm starting to like the Walkman app!

I have a mac laptop and imac with 112Gb music collection on an external HDD and of course iTunes. I just make up playlists of 1) random songs, or 2) dedicated playlists or 3) collections of artists in a playlist (depending on what I'm wanting to listen to) and transfer them using Sony Bridge for Mac to the Walkman app. It's amazing the albums I've re discovered doing it that way e.g. Deadwing by Porcupine Tree, I hadn't listened to that album in years so I found my cd and imported it as apple lossless to walkman it sounds amazing through good headphones.
I find that set up works for me, as while it is importing I just go and make a cup of coffee. Besides, I quite enjoy making up playlists.

I use Google Play Music. Why not since they allow cloud storage of 20,000 songs and sync all your music purchased from Google Play?
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
I use Google Play Music. Why not since they allow cloud storage of 20,000 songs and sync all your music purchased from Google Play?
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Have you had any issues with it working on the Z2?

Kmac_thp said:
Have you had any issues with it working on the Z2?
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None whatsoever. Bought music from Google Play and listened to some albums for about an hour.
I am on stock ROM with root.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
None whatsoever. Bought music from Google Play and listened to some albums for about an hour.
I am on stock ROM with root.
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Do you pin the music or just stream it all? I think I had issues the first day with the Z2 because of work wifi blocking and or causing issues downloading the music.

Kmac_thp said:
Do you pin the music or just stream it all? I think I had issues the first day with the Z2 because of work wifi blocking and or causing issues downloading the music.
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Stream only. I was on Wi-Fi but I don't think it would've posed a problem even if I were on data from my carrier.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Stream only. I was on Wi-Fi but I don't think it would've posed a problem even if I were on data from my carrier.
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Good to know thanks.

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google music manager

I'm slightly annoyed by this. Does anyone know if there is a way to upload music we download to Google music from our tablets or if there is an android music manager app in the works? I'm pretty sure my tablet is going to be my primary device and I'd like for it to be nearly as versatile as my laptop but it doesn't look like that's gonna happen anytime soon.
There isn't, no. Whether one is in the works I do not know. I wouldn't be terribly surprised though to see a way to manually add tracks in later updates to Music Beta. What's your use-case for having a music manager app on your tablet?
The work around i found get a wifi sync app and use to send the music to your pc that you want up loaded to google music
Sandelb said:
What's your use-case for having a music manager app on your tablet?
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It doesn't have to be music manager per se, but the ability to upload from mobile devices is necessary if we have the ability to purchase from them. This weekend I bought 3 albums that are only only my tab and I should be able to move them to the cloud via the Google Music app, at a minimum.
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It doesn't have to be music manager per se, but the ability to upload from mobile devices is necessary if we have the ability to purchase from them. This weekend I bought 3 albums that are only only my tab and I should be able to move them to the cloud via the Google Music app, at a minimum.
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I fear that the content you purchased will not even be able to be uploaded to Google Music Beta due to the DRM. Its my understanding that any music files with embedded DRM cannot be uploaded to the GMb service.
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I fear that the content you purchased will not even be able to be uploaded to Google Music Beta due to the DRM. Its my understanding that any music files with embedded DRM cannot be uploaded to the GMb service.
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Not every song purchased hasd DRM. Amazon for example sells DRM free songs that I would like to upload to google music from my tablet.
vansmack said:
Not every song purchased hasd DRM. Amazon for example sells DRM free songs that I would like to upload to google music from my tablet.
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Not to mention all of the songs I plan on downloading using tTorrent
I just wish they would integrate it into music beta soon. I'd love to be able to download music to my phone or tablet, upload it, and then remove it from my internal storage

How happy are you with Google Music?

What features would you like to see added/removed, and are you happy with it compared to the stock music app, or how do you feel it stacks up against another music app.
*This is a general topic, and I'm just curious to see the community's response.*
I don't use it. It doesn't have features I need.
Namely, ability to keep the screen from sleeping, and the ability to limit where it looks for music at.
i like gmusic. I dont use it daily (I use slacker daily) but gmusic works great when I do need it. Its far more reliable than when it first came out, so they're definitely making progress.
My only complaint is when I flash a new rom, it registers my phone as a new device so it adds it to gmusic (which is great) but google limits it to 8 devices. So occasionally I need to go into gmusic website and delete my old devices, which is all the same phone. Its not really a complaint for google but i wish there was a way for it to detect that its the same device/IMEI
I personally love google music I use it daily. I have a computer for school and don't want to cramp it up with music so I can stream everything. Also I use my phone in my truck for music and it is nice to have access to all my music when I need it.
Absolutely love it. I have my entire collection stored. My main problem lies when I'm doing file management and the media scanner starts while I'm playing music. Google Music stops streaming completely and I have to manually restart it. I turned caching off, so that the song being played is solely dependent on the connection, but it still does it. I suppose it stops to look for new songs that might have been added. I'd like it to at least resume playback when scanning stops.
The other thing is with optimization I guess. In my last billing cycle, I got throttled and streaming was impossible (as expected). However, Pandora was still able to stream entire songs, for long sessions without stutter (it just took longer between songs). I'm curious if it'd be possible for them to improve performance on slow networks, so that it's on par with Pandora.
Alucardis666 said:
*This is a general topic, and I'm just curious to see the community's response.*
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General is something related directly to the phone or an app that comes stock with the phone. GoogleMusic does not fit that description since it has to be installed by the user and not everyone uses it. This should have been in Themes and Apps. Just sayin'.
I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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I wish it would sync with a folder on my phone with all my music, so that when it tries to play a song, it checks that folder on my phone first before downloading the song with a weird name in another random folder. That way, whenever I add a song on my computer to the Google Music Folder, it adds to my phone as well when I try to play it, keeping my music in sync.
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That'd be boss. Maybe in a future update?
I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
i like it on my zoom and Google TV. But I wish it would sync playlist too. A good playlist takes time and it wouldn't be nice to listen to them on phone, tablet and TV. The main thing that make be go back to the Samsung music player is that while connected to my Bluetooth stereo it shows track info on the stereo but the Google music doesn't. Not a big thing, but enough to keep me using the samsung player. If those two were fixed it would be a perfect player.
K Rich said:
I love google music.
Especially after switching from iTunes and my iPhone 4. I really hated iTunes haha
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I too converted, and couldn't be happier.
Absolutely love Google music. No complaints here, it works great. I'm really happy that Google came out with this app, I show everyone with an Android phone.
im using PowerAmp i think its better than gMusic
Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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mjgspr95 said:
Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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Just click on the song you purchased and click download. It will let you download it at 320k and no drm. Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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I would really like to be able to download my music that was uploaded to google music. I had everything in itunes also, and one day after it was all uploaded itunes moved everything without me knowing it and that file got deleted on accident. Of course i didn't care at the time because nothing should have been there. Thanks itunes.
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Also the google music manager has an option to auto download any purchased songs to your pc automatically.
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Automagically? I missed that. Cool.
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My only complaint is the shuffle feature isnt very good at all, I only have a library of about 400 songs yet some songs I never hear when I use shuffle all n some songs I will hear twice in a 10 song span. I use gmusic daily n love it other than that.
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Love it!!!
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I wish there was a way to manage the songs on the server from the phone. I sent all my music to the server and now run across songs (when in shuffle) that I no longer want. Would like to delete the song off the server from my phone.
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Not bad... Steaming better but still slower than other streaming apps.
My biggest complaint is music purchased can only be played in gmusic and can't be downloaded to phone or computer. Frustrating when I paid for something. if they keep prices at $4.99 album $.49 song I might get over it... Doubtful that will last.
Saw app in market that claims to make music portable though.
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uhh, yes it can...

How to sync music with iTunes?

I want to sync all my music with iTunes since I have everything sorted through it (playlists, album art, etc). I don't like Kies at all and half the sync failed.
Anyone know a way to do so? Thanks.
Here is what you want: http://easyphonesync.com/index.html.
Download the program for your computer and then for your phone in the play store. Reviews are really good and should be exactly what you're looking for for free.
Please hit the thanks button if I've helped.
For what it's worth, that EasyPhoneSync didn't work for me. It spent 3 hours syncing ~40GB of music but when it finished it told me it couldn't sync any of it. Tried it twice with no luck.
http://www.doubletwist.com/
That is what I used for the longest time. It's interface is also a good replication of iTunes UI. Best part, you pay for it and you can sync over wifi without having to connect through usb to your computer.
I personally have fully moved away from iTunes and couldn't be happier. I use MediaMonkey on my desktop to play/sort and everything, and I use Google Music to either stream or download for offline listening any songs/play lists I want. It's nice having access to my whole music collection from any computer with an Internet connection
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http://www.doubletwist.com/
That is what I used for the longest time. It's interface is also a good replication of iTunes UI. Best part, you pay for it and you can sync over wifi without having to connect through usb to your computer.
I personally have fully moved away from iTunes and couldn't be happier. I use MediaMonkey on my desktop to play/sort and everything, and I use Google Music to either stream or download for offline listening any songs/play lists I want. It's nice having access to my whole music collection from any computer with an Internet connection
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This x10
I just copied and pasted all of my songs from iTunes into a Music folder and put them on my phones internal storage. Can't get any easier than that.
OP: Upload iTunes library to Google Play. Download App. Open App. Done.
Best part is, music doesn't take up any SD space.
Agree, using Google Play (music) is the easiest and best way. You can also access your music on any computer.
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I think the best option is iSyncr and iSyncr Wifi. That has worked flawlessly for me. With Google Play I always get duplicates in the playlists.
I use audiogalaxy to stream music from my computer. Works great!
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I am going the Google Music route and seems to be fine so far but does anyone know of a better widget than that ugly 1x4 that is with the phone. TIA
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Really want to sync iTunes with my GS3

I switched to a Galaxy S III from iPhone about two weeks ago. I love everything about it, except the music management. I want to sync my phone with my iTunes library, while still using my stock music app. This is the reason I don't want to use doubleTwist because when you change a playlist on the phone, it doesn't sync between doubleTwist and the stock music app. I thought about using Google Music and have it all uploaded. How can I get my offline Google Music to sync with the stock app - playlists and all?
I could also use Amazon Cloud Player if it syncs better.
iSyncr from Google play. Works Perfect for me.
Isyncr works great.
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Another vote for iSyncr. Great app.
I also use iSyncr together with their Rocket Player app. Works great with iTunes.
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so I have never heard of isyncer but is it better then easy tune sync?
I'm a big fan of the iSyncer - keeps everything synced up wirelessly and can be set to sync at intervals. Quick question for the others using it... have you noticed any problems with the stock music player?? When I go to the list of playlists the phone freezes up and I cannot scroll up and down and finally just have to wait until the phone ask me to shut down or wait. If i'm on artist, album, songs it will scroll up and down, no problem... not sure if it is the playlist files that is freezing things up?? Anybody else seeing this? J
You can use DoubleTwist too. It'll sync to your iTunes and you can select which playlist you want to sync, and bam... done
Sucks that doubleteist runs so slow though... I've tried it a few times in my Mac and SLOW is an understatement
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I'm a big fan of the iSyncer - keeps everything synced up wirelessly and can be set to sync at intervals. Quick question for the others using it... have you noticed any problems with the stock music player?? When I go to the list of playlists the phone freezes up and I cannot scroll up and down and finally just have to wait until the phone ask me to shut down or wait. If i'm on artist, album, songs it will scroll up and down, no problem... not sure if it is the playlist files that is freezing things up?? Anybody else seeing this? J
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Never had that problem and I use the stock music player.
Howmany playlists do you have? I think I'm sitting around 45... maybe that's why? But then i would think the artist, albums would freeze too since there are more of those... any 3rd party app works just fine though... except rocket player, the album covers blink/flash when looking at an artist's albums....
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kangi26 said:
You can use DoubleTwist too. It'll sync to your iTunes and you can select which playlist you want to sync, and bam... done
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Doubletwist runs slow and can't upload files bigger then 10mb (320 quality mp3s)

Music unlimited intergrated w/ walkman app

I have two questions in regard to the Music Unlimited app/function that is integrated with the Walkman.
1. While using the Walkman App, I am searching music (I'm a paid subscriber) within Music Unlimited. I am trying to download a song, not just simply add to my playlist, for playback while off-line. Does anyone know how to go about this? Do I have to download the actual stand-alone Music Unlimited app to have this "offline/download" playback feature? The attached screenshot does not show an option for "download".
2. The second question is when I do add a song to my playlist, how do I delete it once I no longer want it? The only way I was able to delete a song when saving it to my playlist via the Walkman app is to go directly to the Music Unlimited website on my PC, log on, and then delete song from my playlist. This is not cool, and it's unacceptable that I can add a song to a playlist via the Walkman/Music Unlimited app on my Xperia Z3 (D6616), but not have the option to delete it, without having to log on to a PC.
I also never found any purchase option, I would advise you to stick to a non manufacturer based store like GooglePlay Music, etc that way you have the same experience on any phone like when you upgrade/change models. You can still use Sony sound effects like Clear Audio+ in Google Music app.
I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
augie7107 said:
I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
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Any pros/cons versus Google Play Music? Well, putting downloads aside.
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I don't believe you can purchase/download through Music Unlimited. Sony chooses to make you pay for subscription rather than purchase and ditch subscription. From a sustainability perspective, its good business. I am a subscriber.
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Music Unlimitd does allow for downloading for offline playback. This is allowed on the pc, as well as the official Sony Music Unlimited stand-alone app (avail in Google Play). But for some odd reason, the option is not available via the Walkman app. It really doesn't make sense since it's a Sony phone, with a Sony music player app, integrated with a Sony music service application.
I do have a subscription and am able to download songs for offline playback as mentioned earlier on the pc and through the actual stand-alone Music Unlimitd app.
In the walkman app you have to go to download the playlist.
Also make sure to go into settings and authorize your device for offline playback. This and the ability to mix playlist are the two things I miss from google music.
calbrs said:
In the walkman app you have to go to download the playlist.
Also make sure to go into settings and authorize your device for offline playback. This and the ability to mix playlist are the two things I miss from google music.
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Just as calbrs said,
You need to add to a playlist then there is an option within the playlist to download for offline usage [emoji13]
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Just as calbrs said,
You need to add to a playlist then there is an option within the playlist to download for offline usage [emoji13]
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Hey all, thanx for the tips! So I downloaded the song to a playlist and chose offline playback. It works! However, It will only play from the playlist. I was hoping I can put my whole library on random, and the downloaded song will play, but it appears as blacked out, and unable to playback, unless I play from the playlist. Suggestions?
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Hey all, thanx for the tips! So I downloaded the song to a playlist and chose offline playback. It works! However, It will only play from the playlist. I was hoping I can put my whole library on random, and the downloaded song will play, but it appears as blacked out, and unable to playback, unless I play from the playlist. Suggestions?
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Eventually I said screw it and went back to Google Play music. The walkman app kept deauthorizing my device for offline playback, and the UI just sucked.
Google play also gives out free albums every week, this week imagine Dragons/Gaurdians Mix Tape 1, both free. Also free music from new artists monthly.
Also Google play is better as a cross platform service. I use it on laptop, iPad and Z3.
Long term Sony's music service can't compete with iTunes, Google Music, Spotify etc. I'm sticking to Google.

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