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Guys, I'm working on developing an AOSP ROM. I need your help in choosing a phone I can use for the testing. I was thinking of starting with a cheap Samsung Galaxy series phone since they have dual bootloaders (boot.bin and sbl.bin). Better safe than sorry, right? My work partner suggested we start off with a Vanilla Android phone, like an old LG. Can you guys recommend me one to proceed with? Is there a phone out there with Vanilla Google Android and possibly two bootloaders ?
Anyone?
c'mon guys !!
Most developers like the Nexus series phones since they are easy to unlock the bootloader and have a lot of other devs.
Thank you for replying But is the Samsung Galaxy series the only one in the Android universe with dual bootloaders?
Also, what phones run on Vanilla Android other than the Google Nexus series? I take it the old LGs do? If so, which ones?
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Someone please provide some input on this..
I REALLY gotta know this at the earliest so I can acquire the phone. Someone, please help out !!
not sure if this helps but the pantech burst is getting the ICS update shortly (they have it ready just having server issues trying to get it out today) its a cheep but badass att lte phone
I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
Prasad007 said:
I don't live in the USA. I need something available internationally. Also, it needs Vanilla Android. Is Google Nexus my only chance?
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If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
shimp208 said:
If your serious about development and testing pure vanilla Android is the way to go and the Google's Nexus line of phones and tablet it the way to go. You can easily compile AOSP for these devices, easily unlock the bootloader and root to flash custom ROM's. Also kernel sources are easily available, along with other great resources that will allow you to learn a lot about development.
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That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
Prasad007 said:
That's EXACTLY what I needed to hear! Thank you so much for your time! Considering I'll start with JB, is it necessary to acquire the latest Nexus available, or will any older variant do?
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I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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shimp208 said:
I wouldn't go any lower then the nexus s, since that's the oldest pure Google device that officially supports compiling AOSP JB from source. Personally I'd pick up the galaxy nexus if you want something right now. If you can wait until around November (November 5th) it's rumored Google is launching several (Supposedly five new nexus devices) new nexus devices to celebrate androids 5th birthday :thumbup:
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Good to know Guess I'll be picking up the Galaxy Nexus then!
Hi Guys,
Curious to know if any of the developers are working to bring kitkat 4.4 n Xperia P , since its made to work with low end devices too and Xperia P is having a decent hardware to support it . Can't rely on Sony's updates .
You must wait until is rom created.
Yes. It's a work in progress.
Look at THIS
there will never be a fully working rom because of sony...buy a samsung or whatever
Sony never offer support for they phones...and they never release sources for the chipset...so developers cant make fully working custom roms...so we will never have custom roms like others have...SO STOP BUYING SONY...BUY A SAMSUNG OR HTC OR WHATEVER
omymic said:
Sony never offer support for they phones...and they never release sources for the chipset...so developers cant make fully working custom roms...so we will never have custom roms like others have...SO STOP BUYING SONY...BUY A SAMSUNG OR HTC OR WHATEVER
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No Dude, sony is providing most good quality hardware, and they are now revealing their sources. It is 100% possible to built a custom ROM. But I agree their support to their phone in terms of android update is little bit vague when compared to samsung or htc
I know LG has confirmed Lollipop next year for the G2 but is it possible for Lollipop to be ported from another device? (Like the Nexus 5)
Or do we have to wait for LG to release some sort of source/kernal?
Just wondering
The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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GalaxyWhy said:
That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
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varund7726 said:
Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
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You sure about that? I mean I'm no code builder but I figured that would take a while, thatd be great if your right tho.
I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
NicoC72 said:
My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
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With multitasking and being able to rearrange/hide nav bar ??
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S3 Mini just got a L port... I'm sure we'll have something soon.
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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My nexus 4 have prepared already few version of Lollipop but my G2 still on 4.4.2. Devs, please port Lollipop for us.
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Does anybody know a few Devs who's maybe can try to work on a port?
I'd be happy to help with the testing. I WANT LOLLIPOP ON MY D802 SO MUCH!!
antoyn said:
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
LG G2
antoyn said:
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
LG G2
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I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
Koopa777 said:
I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
Raymonf said:
Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
flintfirewalker said:
Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
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Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?[/QUOTE]
We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.
berryman13 said:
He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
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Yeah, uh. It appears the second half of my post was cut out.
I'll just retype it here:
It's very possible. People can do what Cyanogen did with CM11. It's not very unlocked, really. Nothing has really changed since Loki was released. AOSP ROMs have been better recently, but the camera is pretty bad.
Everything is exploitable. Perhaps they'll figure out how to get out of the sandbox. Just look at iOS, for example.
Now, since since Lollipop kernel sources will likely be open, people can probably create a flashable zip of a Lollipop OTA and remove that part of the kernel that prevents rooting. People can always use the flash tool tip restore to an older version and then use AutoRec.
berryman13 said:
He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.[/QUOTE]
The LG G3 Lollipop ROM got leaked today. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-lg-g3-leak/ Is it possible to use ButtyG3 as a base to bring in Lollipop?
Seems obsoletism is occurring faster & faster.
upon release Feb 14 I upgraded to the galaxy s 5, now regret that move, at&t won't allow custom Rom! It's been getting glitchy, no clean up?! That's why I bought the dam thing... So last week I said f it. I bought the flagship iPhone, 6s plus 64... And again I'm regretting it's typical non functionality . Dam! oh well at least I look cool, right?. I hate the bloat of the quickly outdated Androids, they need to be replaced sooner & sooner.
Anyone tell me if custom Rom Is the way to go, on which device? I'm thinking about ditching my new iPhone 6s plus, but just learned that the nexus 6p has a fuse denying custom Rom to be ran. ? boo!
Another quick question, is there a particular forum that I might be interested in reading?
What does this have to do with the custom ROM called Paranoid Android?
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What does this have to do with the custom ROM called Paranoid Android?
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I've been reading up once again, so paranoid android is custom Rom? Is it meant for any particular device, or anything goes? (Ask except for the galaxy s5 on the at&t network I presume)
Who is using paranoid android on which device and which is it working the best?
Oh, to clarify, I'm looking for a new & best device so far that I can use I the at&t network. I'm now on this new iPhone and I'm having a hard time navigating to find some good reads on relevant information. Which is the best device? And what is paranoid droid, open source for a community of developers?
great2c4me said:
I've been reading up once again, so paranoid android is custom Rom? Is it meant for any particular device, or anything goes? (Ask except for the galaxy s5 on the at&t network I presume)
Who is using paranoid android on which device and which is it working the best?
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Paranoid Android officially only supports nexus devices.
A custom ROM has to be developed specifically for a device, there isn't a universal ROM that you can download to just any device. You need a build made specifically for your device.
If you want advice about a particular device, you need to go to that devices forum section.
If you want advice about general Android usage, visit the general Android forum section.
This forum section is dedicated to the Paranoid Android project.
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Paranoid Android officially only supports nexus devices.
A custom ROM has to be developed specifically for a device, there isn't a universal ROM that you can download to just any device. You need a build made specifically for your device.
If you want advice about a particular device, you need to go to that devices forum section.
If you want advice about general Android usage, visit the general Android forum section.
This forum section is dedicated to the Paranoid Android project.
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Are you saying that you don't know of an existing forum discussing good better best devices & builds?
In addition, I'm real impresses with galaxy s5 hardware , great camera, processor, expandable memory, good com', terrible that there doesn't seem to be a successful build Fite it on the at&t network
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Are you saying that you don't know of an existing forum discussing good better best devices & builds?
In addition, I'm real impresses with galaxy s5 hardware , great camera, processor, expandable memory, good com', terrible that there doesn't seem to be a successful build Fite it on the at&t network
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XDA has how many users across how many forum sections?
I have no idea what's out there. Nonetheless, this discussion doesn't belong in this forum section.
Has anyone found a solution to run multi-window, like on the LG G4 or LG V10? I know q-slide a solution was found and also the app drawer downloaded LG launcher. I want to buy this phone but only if I can run two apps at the same time.
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you are aware of the fact LG did not implement it for the LG G5 yet because android N will bring it out of the box?
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you are aware of the fact LG did not implement it for the LG G5 yet because android N will bring it out of the box?
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That's a bad excuse by LG if that's their reasoning. However, I don't really miss the feature, on a phone it's kind of useless.
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It is one thing that Android M is gonna bring some features, multi windows included, it is entirely another that it's gonna be implemented across all boards, especially when you look at some heavily skinned UI.
Like, app drawer is a native feature, what about the G5 and the plethora of Chinese smartphones? Adoptable storage? No worries, Android 6 has it. G4? G5? Galaxy S and Note series ?
So, no, it is not a given that we'll have multi windows feature when N comes along. Features are not there until they are, and at the moment, I don't see as to why LG would make us wait so many months until N is out to offer us a proper multi windows solution.
It is like when manufactures release new phones with a outdated Android version and saying "update is coming shortly", sometimes, it is a trimester... We've been to long into this game to get caught time and time again by the same catchphrase.
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Has anyone searched the system files to see if it exist in the software just hidden as such?
The Xposed module: XMultiWindow may work for you... I have yet to try it tho, so tread lightly.
LBensley said:
Has anyone searched the system files to see if it exist in the software just hidden as such?
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I know I'm late but I found dual window in nova activities although it doesn't really work.