So my Verizon contract expired so I hopped over to T mobile and got myself the S5. Tmobile's service has been appalling IMO and I want to switch back to Verizon. Will my S5 work on Verizon? Do I have to do anything with the phone? I have had it for over 40 days and from what I have read I just have to bring it to the tmobile store and ask them to unlock it. After I do that will I be able to take it to the verizon store for service? Thanks!
knexkid said:
So my Verizon contract expired so I hopped over to T mobile and got myself the S5. Tmobile's service has been appalling IMO and I want to switch back to Verizon. Will my S5 work on Verizon? Do I have to do anything with the phone? I have had it for over 40 days and from what I have read I just have to bring it to the tmobile store and ask them to unlock it. After I do that will I be able to take it to the verizon store for service? Thanks!
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Verizon is CDMA, tmobile is GSM. So, no. They have different bands.
aooga said:
Verizon is CDMA, tmobile is GSM. So, no. They have different bands.
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I thought this was not an issue because my understanding is the 900T was basically the international edition of the S5 so it had all the different bands. Why is it legal to even sell me a $650 phone that is locked to one provider?
What carriers CAN I use this phone with?
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I thought this was not an issue because my understanding is the 900T was basically the international edition of the S5 so it had all the different bands. Why is it legal to even sell me a $650 phone that is locked to one provider?
What carriers CAN I use this phone with?
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Anything but Verizon or Sprint. You're correct that it's pretty much the international edition, but other than Japan and a few other countries, everyone uses GSM. As to why it's legal, blame Verizon and Sprint, not the 99% of other carriers.
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Anything but Verizon or Sprint. You're correct that it's pretty much the international edition, but other than Japan and a few other countries, everyone uses GSM. As to why it's legal, blame Verizon and Sprint, not the 99% of other carriers.
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Barf, thanks for the info. Cell phone companies drive me nuts!!!
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Barf, thanks for the info. Cell phone companies drive me nuts!!!
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Just Verizon and Sprint :laugh:
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Just Verizon and Sprint :laugh:
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I took mine to Verizon and was told the LTE bands weren't the same as theirs. I showed them that the unlocked TMO S5 does in fact have the required bands. Finally, the manager admitted that it is Verizon's choice NOT to accept other carrier's phones. At least he was honest, so I'm not blaming him.
I am still on VZ's unlimited hotspot, and I use a LOT of data (over 25GB last month. I was ready to give it up just so I didn't have to carry the little bugger everywhere. When I found this out, I went back to Consumer Cellular with my phone, and it seems to have the same coverage as VZW. VZW can keep feeding me the GBs since they won't accept my phone... and I'm paying less lol.
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Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Hi, I'm in California and I have an Motorola Atrix with AT&T and I just unlocked my phone because I'm about to switch to T-mobile...
However, my friend told me that AT&T and T-Mobile has different 4G networks. He said the AT&T Atrix can not use 3G or 4G speed on a T-Mobile network, It can only go up to Edge speed.... Is that true? Does anyone know about this?
Hope some people can help me here ...
Thank you
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Its true. While both AT&T and T-Mobile use HSPA+ for their "4G" speeds, they run on different bands. If you want 3G/4G, use a T-Mobile phone. Otherwise, enjoy EDGE. Opera Mini with images set to low will be a big help.
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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From everything I have read that is correct, but also know that it won't be much longer till you are back as an AT&T customer since they are acquiring T-Mobile.
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Yep, but sucks that they still charge minutes when I call a T-Mobile number. I'm switching it for my girlfriend, so I can get Unlimited mobile to mobile minutes... I might get a sensation when I switch to T-Mobile
Phoneguy589 said:
T-Mobile leases cellular space from AT&T which is why unlocked AT&T phones can use T-Mobile service. Not sure if it is the phone's software issue that is causing the 4G/3Gnot working. It's possible that T-mobile implemented their so called 4G first but it's still AT&T equipment.....I work for AT&T. Also 4G, is just higher speed 3G, 4G LTE won't be rolling out until next year.
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Good job on the misinformation front.
And also not being helpful, I'm going to assume your in sales and don't actually know anything.
Now on to the OP's question.
T-Mobile uses the same type of technology as AT&T however they operate on different bands. As such most devices that are sold on AT&T will be able work on T-Mobile for phone and edge but don't get 3g or hspa+ due to the radio in the device only supporting some of the bands. Which is why as a general rule AT&T phones such as the iphone, will work on T-Mobile if unlocked but can't use 3g because it doesn't have the ability to operate in the correct MHZ range. Its the same going from T-Mobile to AT&T. My HD2 was awesome, other then the slow data. *Not that my atrix or inspire are much better.
There are exceptions to the rule though. You'll have to check to see which bands the Atrix is capable of using. I know some of the Samsung devices had all the GSM bands so they worked fine on all networks.
the answer is NO the atrix will not work on tmobile USA 3G or 4G network. there, done!
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Thank you for the quick reply... I need to get a T-Mobile phone then.
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Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
linky
AT&T said Monday that it planned to convert T-Mobile's 3G towers to 4G service and move T-Mobile 3G subscribers to AT&T 3G phones.
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gnahc79 said:
Problem is that if/when the AT&T/T-mobile merger goes through, AT&T will likely flip Tmobile's 3g towers to 4g. All tmobile 3G phones...sorry no more 3g unless you buy a new phone. yay....
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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They won't just flip a switch and everyone has to buy new phones. They will be phased out as people finish contracts and begin new ones. If they don't, they'll be buying T-Mobile customers all new phones or paying fatcat lawyers to defend them from all the lawsuits.
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Agreed, sorry I used the term 'flip', never meant to say it would happen instantly . The article I linked stated the switch would take several years. That's not written in stone though, AT&T could move up the timeline if they are losing too many customers to Verizon and Sprint.
This is only an issue if you plan on keeping your tmobile 3g phone for YEARS, which is not likely for anyone that frequents xda .
soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/
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soon we won't have to go through all the nonsense, not having the right bands for our phones.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/t-mobile-lost-more-customers-in-q4-will-launch-lte-in-2013-with/
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If you're willing to wait a year or two...
I think it's great news. The only thing that has kept me at ATT was the family plan and t-mo 2g speeds with my ATT phones.
also this will allow tmo users to get phones directly from there german counterpart. deff give them an advantage because they wont have to have phones custom made for the aws band that they use now
I dont think T-Mobile and AT&T will be on the same LTE bands, and worldwide fragmentation of wireless spectrum is going to be much worse as well with LTE.
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id10terrordfw said:
I dont think T-Mobile and AT&T will be on the same LTE bands, and worldwide fragmentation of wireless spectrum is going to be much worse as well with LTE.
Sent from my SAMSUNG Galaxy Note
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I'm still trying to figure out if our LTE will be compatible. I'm assuming our (tmo) will be linked with sprint.
Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
Make sure you live in area with 1900mhz bands reframed or tmobile lte otherwise you will be stuck with edge speeds
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Weird,
I want to by HTC One to use with T-Mobile in USA, if I select unlocked version from HTC site:
HTC One® Unlocked (32Gb) says: The unlocked version does not support the 1700 band so HSPA+ and LTE will not work on the T-Mobile network.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41589
HTC One® Developer Edition (64GB) doen't say this.
http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=41599
Is it safe to buy 64G for T-Mobile?
The problem is I can't buy from T-Mobile onlive steore, cos they sell only with a plan (even full-price version).
Thanks.
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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They have the same exact frequencies. HTC goofed up. Its in the forums bro. Anyhow, thing is T-mobile will work on AWS LTE band 4 1700. but not 4G which is hspa. If your in the area with 1900 coverage or LTE then your in luck. If not.. go on to a t-mobile store and get yourself a phone
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Use this website should help
http://www.airportal.de/
worry said:
That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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LA has spotty 1900Mhz coverage on TMo. It's far, far better here with 1700Mhz. That's the exact reason why I bought the TMo version instead. If I need to unlock it, I'll either pay $20 on eBay for a code, or just pay for my device and get one from TMo instead. There isn't any branding on the phone at all, and you'd miss WiFi calling with the HTC store version.
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That's stupid, how do I know my coverage frequency? I'm in Seattle area, sometimes I travel to LA.
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Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
olemetry said:
Im in the same boat. I get E on HTC unlocked One, when I had 4G on my Tmobile One S unlocked. So, if I return the phone and get a T-Mobile version I should get 4G like I did with my old One S??
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Yes.
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Yes.
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olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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It was there all along and everyone who did the research knew it won't get T-Mobile aws band. Your best bet is buying direct from T-Mobile and unlocking.
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Becool0130 said:
Bro, if you got always "4G" on your last phone its not going to work on dev edition simply put. no 3g for you sir! if you got "LTE" or "H" on it then dev phone will work for you. if you always got just 4G.. welcome to Edge world on your dev phone.
I just put it to you in simple terms. Off you go Decide either the dev or t-mobile phone. Honestly, its looking like you gotta send that bad boy back and get a t-mobile one
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T-Mobile's branded phones always say "4G" when on HSPA+. International phones usually idle with "3G" and then change to "H" or "H+" while data is active. Neither of these things is an indication of what frequency your data is being transferred over.
That airportal site linked above seems pretty good; there are other crowdsourced options for finding the PCS refarmed areas, too. A good way to be safe if you're dead set on the developer edition is to wait for LTE to roll out in your area since that will definitely work.
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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You don't need an unlock code if you plan to use it on T-Mobile US (including prepaid MVNOs), only if you plan to use it on AT&T or internationally.
Dude call tmobile and you will be able to order via the phone
olemetry said:
That is crazy. I dont think that 1700 warning was there two weeks ago when I pre-ordered. Either way, where do I get a T-Mobile unlocked from now? Do I have to buy a regular T-Mobile outright then enter a unlock code? Thanks again.
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Wal-mart has it for $148 with 2 years contract.
I got as a gift a Galaxy Mega 6.3" (SCH-R960) and its for US Cellular. They don't have coverage or dealers in my area (CA, US) so I need to flash it to work with any other CDMA network. How could I do that?
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I got as a gift a Galaxy Mega 6.3" (SCH-R960) and its for US Cellular. They don't have coverage or dealers in my area (CA, US) so I need to flash it to work with any other CDMA network. How could I do that?
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You could possibly just sim unlock the device and use another carriers sim card
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jzsidebott said:
You could possibly just sim unlock the device and use another carriers sim card
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Thanks, but this is a CDMA phone. That can only be done on GSM phones.
tegraconn said:
Thanks, but this is a CDMA phone. That can only be done on GSM phones.
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sorry didnt know that.
I am in the same situation.
please can some one tell me how can i activate this phone with another company here in my country. how to get spc and prl please.
thank you I will appreciated
mastterjuan said:
please can some one tell me how can i activate this phone with another company here in my country. how to get spc and prl please.
thank you I will appreciated
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ive got mine on page plus (verizon service) works fine but then again i flash phones for a living.other then paying someone (the easy way) theres a few ways to flash it just gotta look around the forums
unlocking US Cellular Samsung MEGA
All you have to do is go to a US Cellular store and they can unlock the phone for you. However, this limits you to roaming (voice) and 3G (data). Doesn't cost you any more or mess up your service, but lack of 4G is painful. Also note that the MEGA does not have hotspot mode so you can't use its data capabilities for any other machine.
If store won't unlock is still doable to unlock them and sprint phones relatively easy or pretty cheap depending how handy you are
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Is there any software difference between att and tmo versions. I plane to get one and use it on tmo network. Is that cost effective to get att version for full price, pay for unlock service and use it on tmobile or buy one straight from tmo?
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darekz said:
Is there any software difference between att and tmo versions. I plane to get one and use it on tmo network. Is that cost effective to get att version for full price, pay for unlock service and use it on tmobile or buy one straight from tmo?
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Sorry it took so long, but VERY minor differences. Icons and little things like that. Software updates show up faster on Tmo vs ATT and if you are looking to root...well go for the Tmobile version. Also, technically when you buy a device at full cost, they have to give you the unlock code. But it all depends what provider you are going to use it with.
cipherswitch said:
Sorry it took so long, but VERY minor differences. Icons and little things like that. Software updates show up faster on Tmo vs ATT and if you are looking to root...well go for the Tmobile version. Also, technically when you buy a device at full cost, they have to give you the unlock code. But it all depends what provider you are going to use it with.
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If both have root why go with T-mobile I see the at&t version can be rooted as well just asking because around me they are in Stock at at&t and not t-mobile
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IMHO, software updates always seem to be faster on Tmobile. and to avoid an unlocking headache, just get the Tmobile one. I ordered online and had it in 2 days.
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IMHO, software updates always seem to be faster on Tmobile. and to avoid an unlocking headache, just get the Tmobile one. I ordered online and had it in 2 days.
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Would I be able to pair the T-mobile gear with T-mobile service to my vzw phone?
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Only if verizon unlock your phone. Usually vzw phones are gms unlocked for international travelers but they dont want to accept US sim cards.
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darekz said:
Only if verizon unlock your phone. Usually vzw phones are gms unlocked for international travelers but they dont want to accept US sim cards.
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AFAIK , the verizon and sprint variants dont even have sim slots. someone correct me if im wrong.... samsung has made it a PITA for the international traveller and this watch, the hardware supports all the bands but for whatever reason they split up all the variants and made each watch support different bands.
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AFAIK , the verizon and sprint variants dont even have sim slots. someone correct me if im wrong.... samsung has made it a PITA for the international traveller and this watch, the hardware supports all the bands but for whatever reason they split up all the variants and made each watch support different bands.
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All i want to do is pair it for like music and what not I could care less if it supports the phone service or bands
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