guys i have a question, does the padfone x have the capability to do usb otg when its in tablet mode ? i feel like the tablets micro usb port is only for charging ...
alleyezondisromo said:
guys i have a question, does the padfone x have the capability to do usb otg when its in tablet mode ? i feel like the tablets micro usb port is only for charging ...
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I think the padfone x tablet's micro usb is only for charging. At least, our Windows laptop will not recognize the padfone x when connected through the tablet's micro usb port. The laptop does recognize the device when connected through the phone's micro usb port.
I hope that this issue can be fixed, that seems fairly retarded to have that setup like so
I doubt there is a "fix" for it dude, it is most likely electrically connected to only charge. The station has to use the USB port on the phone to communicate with the phone, I don't see this as "retarded", but just a limitation of the connection between phone and station.
Its kind of like saying you have a USB transfer cable connecting 2 PCs. Now you want to splice that connection to allow a 3rd PC in the mix. Sounds confusing and complicated to me.
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Hi together,
ive asked me if it is possible to use an adapter for 1x micro usb (plug) -> 2x micro usb (jack).
Could the phone handle 2 USB devices at the same time?
Maybe then it is possible to use the HDMI output and the USB host parallel?
For example to use an TV as screen and an HDD as the source for a movie.
This would be nice.
Thanks in advance.
macc
When the connector is used for HDMI I doubt it can be used as USB at the same time, I'n sorry.
Maybe in a few months cyanogenmod provides a hack, if there will be an dual adapter soon.
We will see. Thank you.
macc
The hardware needs to allow this if it'd become possible. You need a really smart USB dongle that knows how to split the HDMI output from the USB output.
Sounds a little too difficult to ever happen.
Hmm thats right. I think i still dream xD
But thank you.
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it is not possible. because as stated on this forum many times before, the type of usb connection is determined by the resistor between pin 4 and 5 of the micro usb connector. the strength can tell the phone, that there is either a charger, a pc connection, car kit, jig, usb otg or mhl connection present.
and i believe, this is an important thing to keep in mind for so many things:
for instance, why the original car kit triggers car mode and generic car charging cables don't or why not just any micro usb male to usb a female will work as a otg cable or why flashing should be done with the original usb cable...
so if you were to buy or build a micro usb hub, since it has no resistor in the very plug that connects to the phone, it cannot be used for anything but charging and quite frankly, i wouldn't connect more than one charger to the phone.
however, if you want to use your phone for presentations or watching movies and still be able to use it, get a bluetooth keyboard and mouse or a bluetooth presenter or do it the other way around and use a usb input device and transfer your media using allshare. everything else is physically impossible, so neither CM nor XDA can do anything about it. the only device that can do what you want is the new motorola. it has a separate micro usb and micro hdmi port and a docking station, so you can use it as a full notebook.
Thats obvious. Thank you.
macc
Hi everyone,
and thanks in advance for any help / advice that you may have for me.
I'll start off with my question, before I unload all of my information. I simply would like to know exactly what type of USB Connection the Sony Tablet has, and therefore, what specific USB Cable I need to buy in order to connect it to my PC running Vista.
I bought a Sony Tablet and have been surprised the lack of information in regards to the USB connectivity of the device. Specifically, the exact 'cable type' required to connect the device to a PC. Everywhere I have read so far, it simply says USB Micro, or USB 2.0 micro. But when I try use the micro USB cable that I currently use with my Xperia Play phone (which works fine for PC transfer with the phone) it's doesn't work at all with the Sony Tablet. It doesn't even register on the PC when I plug the cable into the tablet. Just nothing.
Since then, I have read a lot about USB, and found that there are different types, like 'Mini USB' versus 'Micro USB'. Apparently there is also Micro USB 'A' and Micro USB 'B'. And finally, apparently there is 4 pin micro usb and 5 pin micro usb type.
hope this all makes sense, many thanks guys.
Austab.
This tablet uses micro USB, I'm pretty sure the cable for your Xperia should work fine with the tablet. Perhaps you plugged it in upside down?
Thanks for the reply, I agree with your thought train. If it works with the Xperia, then surely it should work with tablet. I'll try it again after work today, and confirm. Is it actually possible to plug the cable in the wrong way around?
I'll kick myself if I did! Thanks again, cheers.
Austab.
It cannot be plugged in upside down, unless you use extreme force and break it.
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But yeah, this cable *should work, if it works with your Xperia Play. In principle there is only one kind of micro-USB cable (well, actually it could have either regular type A *OR micro type A connector at one end, but let's keep it simple. Mini-USB is a different kind and A and B are just connector types.
See this picture with different USB connectors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Types-usb_new.svg
Your cable should have a regular USB A connector (the one on the top left) at one end and micro-USB B connector at the other end (the one on the bottom right).
Yeah, it should work; I'm using the same USB cable that I use with my Xperia Arc.
For what it's worth, I've been having issues too. Mostly windows fails to find the drivers and install them. I've talked to multiple Sony reps and have tried multiple computers but haven't had any luck. Maybe it's a bad cable but I have had Windows detect the device...just unable to install the plug-n-play drivers.
Systems I've tried it on:
Custom built - Windows 7 with Service Pack 1
Dell - Windows XP Service Pack 3
Sony Vaio Laptop - Windows XP Service Pack 3
I had the same problem on both of tablet P and tablet S. I can tell you, its more about luck than the wrong cable type! At the end, it just works after retrying a few plugs and unplugs.
Hope they can get a fix for this soon.
Hey again guys, I've now tried the cable again with my Sony Tablet, and I'm definitely plugging it in correctly. There's no response whatsoever on the tablet or the PC once I've plugged the cable in.
When using the same cable on my Xperia play, the phone will instantly start charging once I plug the cable in to the PC. However, the PC doesn't actually recognize the phone as a device (i.e. it doesn't show up in windows explorer, or launch the Ericsson Phone Software, as it once did). It charges the phone, but doesn't talk to it, if that makes sense.
So it would seem that some Micro USB cables are good for charging only, but not for data transfer / PC recognition.
I'll buy a different cable tomorrow so will let you know if it works then.
Thanks again for all the replies guys I appreciate it.
cheers again,
Austab
Looks like the cable is faulty then and you have to try another one.
I bet one of data wires is broken, or a data contact inside connector is broken (worn down), because when you connect your Xperia Play it should also be recognized as a device.
Then again, maybe there is something wrong with your computer.
Can you try the same cable on another computer, and see if the device is recognized, before you buy a new cable. Or let them check the cable at the store to see if it really is faulty.
My understanding is you need an OTG USB cable, (On The Go) - this is what you need to connect USB keys and other hard-drives and so therefore I would think external PCs too.
I bought a nokia one for around 5 pounds from amazon, do a search for OTG USB cables,
thanks
Pratish
He wants to connect it to a computer, not connect external devices to it.
So he needs a regular micro-USB cable.
the cable is USB Host finde with this name
People, wtf are you talking?!
He *does not* need USB host (OTG) cable. That's for connecting USB devices, like keyboard, mouse, USB-storage etc., to your tablet.
He wants to connect his tablet to a computer. For that he needs a regular type A USB to type B micro-USB cable.
Hi,
Would seem like op had a charging cable, not data one. As stated, he need a regular data cable with appropriate connectors. OTG has nothing to do with it.
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Hi Crazzzik,
so you're saying that there are micro usb cables for charging only, and then there are micro usb cables for data + charging etc? That would explain things perfectly for me, as my cable seems to work for charging devices, but not communicating with a PC (i.e. data transfer).
I'm getting a new cable today - sorted!
Many thanks everyone for your help & advice
Austab
Yes when I got the cable for my sony tablet s, I saw several usb cables that would fit the tablet, but on the package it said specifically "for charging only, not meant for data transfer", so they do make the cabkes just for charging, as a PC tech, I was a little embarrassed that I just found this out this weekend.
Thanks
I also got a microUSB-cable adapter, it works fine with usb driver / joypad and keyboard
but not sure if it's capable for connecting with PC or even for charging
hello all,
I recently bought the usb cable for the tablet they sell at the sony store. The micro usb to female normal usb ( I think you know what im talking about). It is sony tablet specific. The micro usb end of the cable is square instead of tappered at one side. it worked fantastic for plugging in and usb deviced to the tablet, but when I tried to plug it into my galaxy s, it wouldn't fit. just thought those thinking of buying one would appreciate the heads up so its not a shock if they try to use it on any other devices. Im sure you can find that same cable at any well stocked computer shop.
i borrowed a htc wildfire s cable, this works and installs drivers.
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When I want to connect my droid X phone to my laptop, the cable is usb on one end and micro usb on the other end. So can I use that on my Sony S also to connect to the laptop? or are there different wires inside the cable or something so that I cannot use it, different wattage or amperage or whatever??
As always I am technically challenged LOL
Sandy
The Sony Tablet S uses the standard Micro-USB cable so you'll be able to connect to your laptop with no problems.
It will work for both, given the chip( Mini USB) is the same for both. The cable just carries the current. It is the charger portion that puts out the specific voltages. You are good to go as long as the mini USB fits
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rithsv said:
The Sony Tablet S uses the standard Micro-USB cable so you'll be able to connect to your laptop with no problems.
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Really? This works?
Uh oh. I've tried hooking up my tablet to the PC with a standard micro usb cable. And also with the sony converter that makes it a normal sized USB port and a double ended USB cable. Both of these didn't do anything for me. I've just been transferring files to/from it with the sony converter and a jump drive.
Anyways, let me know if everyone else is normally hooking the tablet to a PC or if you guys are just assuming. Thanks
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Really? This works?
Uh oh. I've tried hooking up my tablet to the PC with a standard micro usb cable. And also with the sony converter that makes it a normal sized USB port and a double ended USB cable. Both of these didn't do anything for me. I've just been transferring files to/from it with the sony converter and a jump drive.
Anyways, let me know if everyone else is normally hooking the tablet to a PC or if you guys are just assuming. Thanks
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You should only need the one cable.. The cable I use for my HTC Desire HD works on the tablet and the same with the cable for the Galaxy S II as they are the same kind of cable.
Just connect micro USB, from tablet to PC and it works
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Just connect micro USB, from tablet to PC and it works
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Same here. I plug it in with a cheap USB <-> Micro-USB cable and it recognises it instantly and I can copy stuff to and from without even having to mount the storage manually.
Weird!! I tried plugging it in with my normal phone's micro usb cable when I first bought it and nothing happened. I tried again last night and nothing happened.
I just read all your posts about how it will work and I tried again, and my computer recognized it this time.
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dear experts,
Im going to buy xperia z tab but I have a few questions to you.
Can I buy some adapters which allow me to connect in the some time, usb HDD, wifi mouse (via usb I use this mouse on windows currently ) so need 2 usb slot, HDMI (so I can transfer display on TV), and need another plug for a charger. Is it any chance I an buy some adapters, plug etc. where I can connect all this device and tablet will still be manage to run all of this optcion at the some time?
please help
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dear experts, Im going to buy xperia z tab but I have a few questions to you. Can I buy some adapters which allow me to connect in the some time, usb HDD, wifi mouse (via usb I use this mouse on windows currently ) so need 2 usb slot, HDMI (so I can transfer display on TV), and need another plug for a charger. Is it any chance I an buy some adapters, plug etc. where I can connect all this device and tablet will still be manage to run all of this optcion at the some time? please help
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You are going to need a USB 1.x/2.0 Female Type A to Male Type Micro-B adapter cable.
The XTZ's USB port does not supply enough amperes to power most portable USB HHDs, so when selecting an HDD, make sure it requires very low amperes.
The WiFi mouse's Windows-based adapter will not work with the XTZ unless the mouse's manufacturer can provide Android drivers. You need to check with the manufacturer to see if they have any, but I highly doubt they have Android drivers. You will have better luck using a Bluetooth or USB mouse.
You can use a non-powered or powered USB hub to gain more USB ports. A powered USB hub would be a better choice because it would eliminate the problem of powering a USB HDD. Most powered USB hubs are powered by AC adapters, but you can find some that are battery powered.
There are several discussions in this forum about USB MHL to HDMI adapters. Search the forum to find out which adapters work with the XTZ.
You cannot charge a device using a charger through a USB hub. You will need a powered USB hub specifically designed for charging devices.
Right but the question is does the Xperia z tab can be charging the some time when is connect to tv via hdmi?
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x7nofate said:
Right but the question is does the Xperia z tab can be charging the some time when is connect to tv via hdmi?
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Try using a Micro USB Host OTG Y-Cable with Micro USB Power for Sony Phones & Tablets from Valarm, which they say has been tested with the XTZ SGP312.
I can't seem to get USB 3.0 working on this tablet. I copied 30gb to a 128gb UHS 3 SD card and it copied at 17MB/s (sd card empty)
I don't know why it is so slow!
I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
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I am at work so I cannot check the original cable but the first question is "was the cable you used 3.0?", with a blue connector? I actually cannot find out the specifications of the USB port of our tablet, not sure if it supports USB 3.0 but the cable (if I remembered correctly) that came with it is not a blue cable.
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I think it is USB 3.0 cable, it has a blue end to it (on USB A end) I have another cable somewhere, but I can't find it at the moment.
Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
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Those are in line with the speeds I have gotten, over a USB C cable, to a gen 2 port. I don't think it supports faster transfers.
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Personally, I just think that MTP is slow AF compared to MSC. Shame that android had removed MSC support. Pulling the SD out and using a reader seems to be the only fast way these days.
I'm also talking about USB OTG here.
Given that it is a Hi Sillicon Hi 3660, there is a manual for it.
That manual states that it has USB 3.0 OTG support..
https://en.alpha-star.org/docs/hardware-development-for-hikey960/hi3660-user-manual
see page 64..
Also worth noting that MTP is down to the device speed i think, it's odd and sometimes doesn't even max USB 2.0 even on my one plus. (i don't know why, but MTP is bad).
That speed was using USB OTG, which in host mode is supported at Superspeed according to that manual, so the only thing stopping it is software, in theory.
I sent Huawei an email, and they confirmed that it hasn't got USB 3.0
"Thank you for contacting Huawei Support.
The USB specification on the M5 tablet are:
hmm, after thinking about this, the hi 3660 has a USB 3.0 controller built in, and there are two modes, SS at 125MHz and HS at 60MHz, maybe a software update could change this.
I'm doubtful though, as the internal wiring might be different, and probably is.