Anyone here switch from a Verizon S4? - Verizon LG G3

I'm in that boat - switching today. Was curious if others were and their experience as they try the new G3.

Im switching from an S5, had the S4 too.. will let you know

J3ff said:
Im switching from an S5, had the S4 too.. will let you know
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Interesting - I'm switching in hopes of getting better call reception than I got on my S4. May I ask what feature(s) made you give the G3 a try?

Switching from my S3 in about 2 weeks... IDK if my mind can handle such a big upgrade.

boe said:
Interesting - I'm switching in hopes of getting better call reception than I got on my S4. May I ask what feature(s) made you give the G3 a try?
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I wanted that size screen/phone, the high resolution 2k screen made it a "must have"

I compared again to my S4 today, but do not see the step up that makes it worth it. S4 display looks better to me. That said, if I were coming from and S3, the G3 is a much better device. Not enough to jump for me from the S4. The Qhd seems to drag it down some due to throttling and the display has to be set to a very high value to not look dim, but it is still faster than the S4.
JMO and still a NICE device I will wait to see if the Plus version with the 805 is released, or maybe the Note 4.

Just got mine today! Came from the S4 (which I got launch day last year).
So far really liking it. :good:

tjk639 said:
Just got mine today! Came from the S4 (which I got launch day last year).
So far really liking it. :good:
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Can you tell me about the SIM card? MIne said they were shipping one but I don't see it (although it might be in there) and I have an S4 - tried taking the card out of it and sliding on top of the white spot above the battery but it doesn't seem to fit.

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Can you tell me about the SIM card? MIne said they were shipping one but I don't see it (although it might be in there) and I have an S4 - tried taking the card out of it and sliding on top of the white spot above the battery but it doesn't seem to fit.
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SIM card was preinstalled in the phone.
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Thanks - mine came preinstalled too. I couldn't get it to come out so I wasn't sure if I should try to remove it. used a jeweler screwdriver and saw the white sim was indeed a new sim.

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Can you tell me about the SIM card? MIne said they were shipping one but I don't see it (although it might be in there) and I have an S4 - tried taking the card out of it and sliding on top of the white spot above the battery but it doesn't seem to fit.
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I think that white spot may be your SIM card. There are 2 slots in that location. The bottom slot is the SIM card (mine came with it installed) and on to of it is the SD memory card slot.

I was going to. But lack of unlocked boot loader AND incompatible apps have me thinking I should keep the s4. Not what I expected.
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I was going to. But lack of unlocked boot loader AND incompatible apps have me thinking I should keep the s4. Not what I expected.
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Ahhh come on Shaf you'll love this phone. . I'm hoping in the next week or so someone will pull through with a custom recovery.
Won't mention any names but it's being worked on right now.
Hey in the mean time at least it's not stock Touchwiz lol
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I came from a Galaxy S4 running the latest version of Hyperdrive. For anyone having doubts, you can drop them.
True, the G3's display doesn't scream color at you like the often times cartoonish display of the Galaxy line, but personally I don't see that as a problem. That may be because I've also preferred a screen that gives a more natural and accurate reproduction of colors, which between the two, I feel is the G3. That's just my own opinion though, most people's is probably different.
Unlike some people who have picked up the G3, I have zero lag. No random reboots. Nothing. It runs flawlessly. And that's on a device that is rooted, debloated and running ART.
Call reception has been better than the S4 so far. However, signal strength I am a little baffled by. In some areas, I'm getting signal where I didn't get it with the S4. In other areas, I am getting weaker signal. Personally, I am starting to lean towards the idea that the G3 gives a more accurate signal readout than the S4 ever did, but I still have some testing on that to do.
Battery life tends to be hit or miss for people. If you tend to use your devices like I do: Call/Text/Spotify and light Internet/Camera/Bluetooth usage throughout the day away from the house, mixed in with the occasional game/emulator while at home...you'll be happy. However, if you're one of those users who expect to watch a movie or an episode or two, play a handful of games and shoot from an on screen time of 5+ hours all during the work day...you'll be sorely disappointed. Because this phone has an amazing standby time: mine went down by 3% last night over the span of eight hours. However, the display devours battery power at a sometimes alarming rate. But, I've only had the phone for a couple of days, so I'm not worried about it yet. Also, battery life in the S4 was significantly improved for me while running Hyperdrive, so overall it's not a fair comparison. Also bear in mind that with the exception of Bluetooth, I keep everything on at all times (gps, wifi, auto brightness set at full, etc).
As to anyone giving excuses for not getting this device in the vein of "It has a locked bootloader". So does the S4. In fact, I made the mistake of picking up a 32GB S4 a month after it was released on Verizon, and I was forever screwed out of having an unlocked or loki'd device because of the firmware version it was running out of the box. In fact, Samsung devices are notoriously worse about bootloaders than any other manufacturer on Verizon currently.
So, is it a worthy upgrade to the S4? Hell yes. And if none of what I said works for you, think about this: The Snapdragon 801 in this device charges the battery significantly faster than the 600 in the S4.

Thanks for the review. Now that I've had it a couple of days I thought I'd give my thoughts as well.
Battery life - at first I'd say it was comparable to my S4 but then I went to all applications and disabled a bunch that were on after I activated my phone - now the battery life is great - I've had it on but unused and uncharged since last night (1 push email account - no texting, no imdb, no calls) and it only went down 5% in 12 hours (BT enabled, WIFI disabled). The screen activity does seem to use more battery life than my S4 and so does GPS. Otherwise phone talk time seems to have about the same battery drain. I only use BT for making calls so BT is on 24x7. FYI I just got the Plantronics EDGE and it is amazing (I also have the Sennheiser presence which has better battery life but overall I like the Edge much more.
Charging - the phone is picky about chargers. I've used the same chargers I've had for years for my Nexus, S3, S4, Plantronics and Sennheiser headsets but the G3 said it wasn't acceptable and wouldn't use it to charge. On the plus side the included charger does seem to charge it quickly. Biggest disappointment - that it didn't come with a wireless charging backplate.
Signal strength - I'd say it has only slightly better voice signal reception than the S4 but every bit helps (e.g. calls from the cement garage beneath my apartment complex). Data seems a teeny bit slower though when running speedtest. I haven't done enough testing for this to be an accurate or detailed analysis.
Overlay - I have to say it seems zippy enough to me and as user friendly as the Samsung although different so it takes a teeny bit of getting used to - except the back arrow - that took a lot since it is on the opposite side from where my thumb automatically tried to go when I wanted to go back.
Screen - great size. I don't think the contrast is as sharp as the S4 - you can say it is color saturation or whatever you want - in the end it still means some things are as well separated. There is a color adjustment some say impacts contrast but what it does is adjust colors - not contrast IMHO.
Buttons - I thought I'd really freak out about not having the hard buttons where I had in the past but that was easier to get used to than the back button - I'm finally used to both though.
Bloat ware - both Samsung and LG have some apps I'd love to just uninstall but until you root them, you are stuck with the crap although most of it you can disable. Health was the very first thing I would uninstall if I could.
Issues - no issues so far other than the charging one. No reboots or hangs. My guess is that people are installing an app that doesn't play well with the G3 or perhaps the current version of Android. I admit I don't have more than 15 apps I install myself. The only ones I really care about are truecaller(mediocre call blocker/id app), Tesla (flashlight), call history, cal widget (calendar for home screen) and the rest are items I only use occasionally - e.g. ip calcs, where's my car, speedtest etc. I tried some live wallpapers and went back to static ones - attempting to keep every bit of battery life. I had a hard time pairing my BT headset with my new phone - perhaps there is something difference about the process on the G3 - I ended up using NFC and it worked instantly.
Conclusion - I like the phone a lot although I'm sure the S5 would have been an excellent choice as well. I like the screen size on this a bit more but I like the contrast on the Samsung screen. I notice the difference in large 4K TVs right away but for a screen of this size the S4 resolution was fine. You really have to look to notice the difference.

Mistertac said:
Ahhh come on Shaf you'll love this phone. . I'm hoping in the next week or so someone will pull through with a custom recovery.
Won't mention any names but it's being worked on right now.
Hey in the mean time at least it's not stock Touchwiz lol
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Hopefully they will get it unlocked. That would be sweet.
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Got mine a few hours ago.
Found a guy on Swappa. Keeping my unlimited.
Anyway.
ioroot was the first thing I did.
I used it a few weeks ago on my wife's LG G2.
Installing all my apps and then will use TI backup to get the last of my data.
Need to install the tethering hack.
Also install Xposed and Wanam.
Case and screen protector here on Wed.
Until then, I'll leave all the plastic on.
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Had an S4 for 2 months when it first came out
I don't know what you want to know exactly but I can tell you that even the G2 was a huge upgrade from the S4. I sold my S4 after having it for 2 months and if I could have sold it a week after I got it I would have. I waited for the G2 to come out and upgraded to it and I loved the G2 but hard bricked it a few months back and got stuck with an OG razr and today I got a G3. I don't get the hype with Samsung's S line of phones because I personally think every LG G series phone has been better. As long as LG and Samsung keep doing what they have been for the past 2 years I'm sticking with LG because their phones are a lot better now. The G2, and G3 even look a lot better than other phones because LG has wisely adopted the small bezel look which I personally think is very attractive compared to the large bezels Samsung is still using.
I was in the verizon store sunday for a couple hours looking at all the different phones (even though I already knew I was gonna get the G3) and the G3 screen blows the others away. People who think you won't see a difference between the 1080p and the 4k on the G3 are mistaken because I could see a good bit of difference.
I also like how LG is moving towards a more clean UI whereas Samsung is looking as cartoonish as ever. The S5 looked so bad to me with the over saturated colors and ugly UI.
Lastly I'll say that for me the kicker with the S4 was at that time it was completely locked down because I got an S4 that had the update which broke all the root methods. I had it for 2 months and there was over 6G's up for anyone who could figure it out and no one had yet when I sold it. I don't know if people are still having issues with unlocking Samsung phones but that experience with the S4 turned me off of Samsung probably forever because I love to root and flash things on my phone, I had to suffer for 2 months not be able to do anything with my phone. Lg phones always get rooted day one and after a few months the development picks up and we'll have all sorts of roms to flash and it will be easy and fun.

tech_head said:
Got mine a few hours ago.
Found a guy on Swappa. Keeping my unlimited.
Anyway.
ioroot was the first thing I did.
I used it a few weeks ago on my wife's LG G2.
Installing all my apps and then will use TI backup to get the last of my data.
Need to install the tethering hack.
Also install Xposed and Wanam.
Case and screen protector here on Wed.
Until then, I'll leave all the plastic on.
Cheers!!
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Check this module out for the g3 if you haven't already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792242
- Sent From My G3

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Check this module out for the g3 if you haven't already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792242
- Sent From My G3
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Found it before I saw your post.
Pretty good. I've been running Wanam on my S4. Wanam made the S4 liveable.
My daughter will get the S4 now.

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T-Mobile Buyers remorse

Well I switched to Tmobile 18 days ago and got a Galaxy S4 and then a few days ago the G2 shows up on Tmo pre order and now its available to purchase online . I called Tmo and since I'm within 20 days of my initial purchase they are letting me come into the store and turn in my S4, giving me a loaner phone and Fedexing a G2 to me all so I can be within the buyers remorse 20 day window.:highfive: I have to pay 35 dollar reboxing fee for the S4, the only other way I could have done this is to have turned in the S4 for any phone now to reset my buyer remorse cycle and pay 35 dollars and then go back at the end of the month when the G2 is in stock at the store and pay another 35 bucks to turn in the second phone lol. I'm sure I'll love the G2 as I much preferred my Optimus G on Sprint to this galaxy S4 and if for some weird reason I hate the G2 I will turn it in in a couple of weeks for the Note 3 when it hits the shelves at Tmobile. Anyone else going out of their way to get a G2? I'm turning in a brand new S4 and eating 35 dollars for the privilege, the G2 is priced to sell at 99 dollars down at T-Mobile which is a nice gesture to try and move LG'S Flagship phone and Tmobile just got in 2 budget LG phones the F3 and F6 both with LTE. Just nice to see it seems LG is getting some love from T-Mobile at least, when I got my Optimus G I was shocked at the scarcity of accessories especially cases for a flagship device. Sprint stores didn't even carry any cases by the time I bought the phone and Amazon only had a few choices. I'm sure the G2 will have at least half a dozen cases at Tmo stores compared to the fifty or so they carry for S4 and Iphone 5, they only had 2 or 3 choices for the Note 2 and HTC One at my local corporate stores. Guess I'm rambling now but excited to be getting this LG, the Optimus G was my first ever LG phone and I thought it was just perfect so I have high expectations.
Don't get me wrong, the G2 is a great phone. But I like my S4 just as well. I don't see any great advantage in the G2's favor. With the way the stock screen is on the G2, my S4 screen is bigger. The S4 has an SD slot. Both types of screens are great. The G2 has a stabilized camera but I haven't noticed any big difference in pictures yet. The G2 sounds a better when playing music. Neither of them lag any for me and I'm running a stock kernel on the S4. GPS and 4G signal are the same so far. I'm not loving the back buttons yet but time will tell if I like them. Both have IR blasters... I can flash roms on my S4 because I didn't take the update that locked down the bootloader. I kind of like the gadgets in the Touchwiz UI that the S4 has.
If I had to choose which one right now I would probably choose my S4, but I wouldn't be upset if I could only have the G2. It really is a nice phone.
Now once the G2 gets some roms that will let me make the nav button background transparent like it is on the home screen with the stock launcher and get some other tweaks available, I may change my tune. Right now they're pretty equal to me.
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Don't get me wrong, the G2 is a great phone. But I like my S4 just as well. I don't see any great advantage in the G2's favor. With the way the stock screen is on the G2, my S4 screen is bigger. The S4 has an SD slot. Both types of screens are great. The G2 has a stabilized camera but I haven't noticed any big difference in pictures yet. The G2 sounds a better when playing music. Neither of them lag any for me and I'm running a stock kernel on the S4. GPS and 4G signal are the same so far. I'm not loving the back buttons yet but time will tell if I like them. Both have IR blasters... I can flash roms on my S4 because I didn't take the update that locked down the bootloader. I kind of like the gadgets in the Touchwiz UI that the S4 has.
If I had to choose which one right now I would probably choose my S4, but I wouldn't be upset if I could only have the G2. It really is a nice phone.
Now once the G2 gets some roms that will let me make the nav button background transparent like it is on the home screen with the stock launcher and get some other tweaks available, I may change my tune. Right now they're pretty equal to me.
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I respectfully disagree. I've tried every rom and kernel combo on my S4, and it still stutters and lags in spots where it shouldn't. The G2 blows it away in general ui quickness and smoothness imo.
Not to mention that the G2's screen is much better to me. Brighter, whiter and still has good contrast and decent blacks. When I opened Google in my browser on both phones with full brightness, I was shocked how much brighter and whiter the G2's screen was. I didn't realize how dingy the S4's screen is.
There are more things too, but I just feel the G2 is a better overall device.
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jspradling7 said:
Both types of screens are great.
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Like Sun and Moon, comparatively. IPS is bright and vivid like Sun and crapoled is dim like Moon
jspradling7 said:
The G2 has a stabilized camera but I haven't noticed any big difference in pictures yet.
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Probably then it's time to buy a pair of new eyes, heh?
The battery life of G2 in active state is probably twice as much as of SGS4 (games excluding)
jspradling7 said:
Right now they're pretty equal to me
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Strange, but then again it's your opinion and preference
WizeGuyDezignz said:
There are more things too, but I just feel the G
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I think so too
I run phones at 50% or so brightness. I have both phones laying on my desk at 50% and there isn't much difference except the shade of white. The S4 does look a little grey or dirty, and the G2 has a pink tint to it. But that may be due to the florescent lights I'm under.
Now, when I crank up the brightness, yes the G2 looks a lot brighter and better. But honestly, I don't usually have the brightness up that high. It just eats battery.
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Billy Madison said:
Like Sun and Moon, comparatively. IPS is bright and vivid like Sun and crapoled is dim like MoonProbably then it's time to buy a pair of new eyes, heh?
The battery life of G2 in active state is probably twice as much as of SGS4 (games excluding)Strange, but then again it's your opinion and preference
I think so too
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You're taking this way too personally. I said I hadn't seen a lot of differences in the cameras yet. I've only had the phone a day and my eyes are fine thanks. : )
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I respectfully disagree. I've tried every rom and kernel combo on my S4, and it still stutters and lags in spots where it shouldn't. The G2 blows it away in general ui quickness and smoothness imo.
Not to mention that the G2's screen is much better to me. Brighter, whiter and still has good contrast and decent blacks. When I opened Google in my browser on both phones with full brightness, I was shocked how much brighter and whiter the G2's screen was. I didn't realize how dingy the S4's screen is.
There are more things too, but I just feel the G2 is a better overall device.
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As an owner of 2 Galaxy S4's, I agree with WizeGuyDeZignz.
The S4 and G2 aren't even in the same league when it comes to hardware and software. God knows I've tried almost all imaginable roms on both my S4's and could not get it to run smoothly. It lags and stutters more than any of the last generation Android devices I've owned which is terribly sad for a latest generation device.
It's hard to believe that both devices can be had for the same price, WHY would anyone choose the much inferior S4 is beyond me.
The S4 UI Lag, Camera Lag, and Micro Stuttering drove me mad everytime I used the device, I wanted to fling it out the window sometimes....like seriously.
Simple task like browsing the web will lead to much frustration on the S4. In desktop mode, it just can't handle complicated websites. It would crash or take 20 seconds to redraw on certain webpages, theverge.com full site for example.
Wow. I would feel the same way if I had those problems with the S4. Are these Verizon S4's that ya'll are getting all the lag and stuttering on? I've ran all the roms on mine and settled on Hyperdrive with a stock kernel. The ONLY issue I've had with the S4 is the dang 64gb SD card. My phone eats 64gb SD cards and renders them useless. But haven'r had any problems like ya'll are describing.
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Wow. I would feel the same way if I had those problems with the S4. Are these Verizon S4's that ya'll are getting all the lag and stuttering on? I've ran all the roms on mine and settled on Hyperdrive with a stock kernel. The ONLY issue I've had with the S4 is the dang 64gb SD card. My phone eats 64gb SD cards and renders them useless. But haven'r had any problems like ya'll are describing.
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I had T-Mobile versions.
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The S4 UI Lag, Camera Lag, and Micro Stuttering drove me mad everytime I used the device, I wanted to fling it out the window sometimes....like seriously
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The stutter is inherent in touchwiz software. But S4 owners not eager to discuss it

S4 to G2

Anyone own an s4 prior to the g2? Might trade my s4 but was hoping for some feedback
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Anyone own an s4 prior to the g2? Might trade my s4 but was hoping for some feedback
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Do it buddy the G2 is the better device all around.
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Sweet. Thanks!
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Anyone own an s4 prior to the g2? Might trade my s4 but was hoping for some feedback
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I did the same thing. I sold my S4 and bought the G2. I do not miss the S4 at all, only the SD card slot.
The screen is very pretty and bright, battery life is so. much. better. And everything else is very peppy quick.
You will not be disappointed.
Alright I'm sold. Thanks guys!
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Anyone own an s4 prior to the g2? Might trade my s4 but was hoping for some feedback
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I'm using an LG G2 D802 and yesterday I've got may hands on i9505 = new one for me father in law:silly:
I was messing with S4 for few hours, its nice but my G2 is killing it, wont regreat that I didn't take the S4 still its a nice phone
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I also sold my S4 and got the G2. I haven't missed the S4 at all. The S4 is a good device and I enjoyed it. However, the G2 blows it out of the water in terms of build quality and performance. The camera and call quality is also great on the G2. The only thing missing is SD card. However, I only had a 16gb card in my S4 anyway, so it equals out for me.
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Swapped my S4 with G2. Then, purchased another G2 for my wife. ?
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Also swapped the s4 for the g2.
You will not be disappointed
The battery life alone is worth the trade
(Also look at my samsung record. The grass is much greener on the other side)
Did the same, never looked back. If the g2 was marketed by Samsung, it would have been their hottest selling phone since the s3.
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Swapped my S4 with G2. Then, purchased another G2 for my wife. ?
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I currently have the S4. I'm on T-Mobile and about ready to JUMP. Don't want another Sammy like the note 3 however I sure would miss the SD card if I came to the G2. I understand there's about 27 GB to play with. I was hoping for the flex to be out by the end of the month but alas not till maybe April. I never liked this s4. I got it mostly because I was tired of my HTC one s. So how is the G2 for ease of rooting?
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I currently have the S4. I'm on T-Mobile and about ready to JUMP. Don't want another Sammy like the note 3 however I sure would miss the SD card if I came to the G2. I understand there's about 27 GB to play with. I was hoping for the flex to be out by the end of the month but alas not till maybe April. I never liked this s4. I got it mostly because I was tired of my HTC one s. So how is the G2 for ease of rooting?
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Rooting is pretty easy on the G2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45692679#post45692679
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Read my thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2609992
Anyways I posted my problems with the G2 coming from an S4 , the issues are still there .
One more issue I have found with this phone that simply bothers me is that the menu buttons bar doesn't fade away when browsing, playing games, reading books ,etc... they only go away when watching videos. Why couldn't LG make them fade and bring them up with a tap? That would make too much sense, having the menu bar on the screen make the phone feel like a 5" screen anyways just like the S4.
So a recap of my issues and see if they are going to bother you:
1. GPS slower to lock / no lock at all --- *update - It seems fine now but first week it was bad.
2. Back buttons keep turning on and taking pics - Still giving me problems and my buddy who uses loose pants same thing , it happened to him, any pressure on them while sitting down and your phone in your pocket it will wake the phone, quite frankly the back buttons were a big gamble by LG , some like me are probably never going to get used to them or like them there.
3. Sound is too low - Yup still bothersome, even at max level the sound is pretty low, I think the speaker placement is an issue. Hope for an LG update fix. S4 not problems, not the loudest like the HTC One but was fine.
4. Auto Brightness sucks - The S4 was king at auto brighness , hope LG issues a software update to fix.
5. Menu Bar Buttons - Mentioned above, I had to root the phone and get an auto Hide app to make them go away so I can use the full screen. But I feel a customer shouldn't have to root a phone to get things working. - On S4 no issues since buttons are off the screen.
Again some might think i'm a LG hater or something, I'm not, I actually like the phone a lot, I think the screen is superior than the S4, the UI believe it or not i think it's better than Touchwiz, the phone feels faster (and it should as it has a newer processor) than the S4 . But the issues I'm mentioning are real and hopefully can help you make a desicion. Some will post I never had those issues, which is fine lucky you but simply google them and you will see a lot of people reporting the same issues.
Good luck , me ? I'm 80% sure os of today i will use the JUMP upgrade and go back to Samsung as I felt the experience was overall better.
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1. GPS slower to lock / no lock at all --- *update - It seems fine now but first week it was bad.
2. Back buttons keep turning on and taking pics - Still giving me problems and my buddy who uses loose pants same thing , it happened to him, any pressure on them while sitting down and your phone in your pocket it will wake the phone, quite frankly the back buttons were a big gamble by LG , some like me are probably never going to get used to them or like them there.
3. Sound is too low - Yup still bothersome, even at max level the sound is pretty low, I think the speaker placement is an issue. Hope for an LG update fix. S4 not problems, not the loudest like the HTC One but was fine.
4. Auto Brightness sucks - The S4 was king at auto brighness , hope LG issues a software update to fix.
5. Menu Bar Buttons - Mentioned above, I had to root the phone and get an auto Hide app to make them go away so I can use the full screen. But I feel a customer shouldn't have to root a phone to get things working. - On S4 no issues since buttons are off the screen.
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1> I agree GPS is slow to lock first time after a reboot, and is real crap indoors for me. Outside is much better. I had an S4 for a 6 days and it got GPS lock once after about 3 minutes, and the compass was always wrong.
2> I've never had that issue with the back buttons, and with the size of the screen, I'm glad they are on the back because I wouldn't be able to reach them on top.
3> If I wanted to run a party, I'd use a Bluetooth speaker. I've used the phone to play music in one room and been working in a room on the other floor, and still able to hear it.
4> Yup, auto brightness is crap.. S4 was the best I've ever seen for that. But.. Lux will fix that problem.
5> I personally like the bar always on. It isn't that the phone isn't working. It's that it isn't working the way you think they should be.
Then when you add in batter life and how much nicer the screen is.. I'm glad I switched. I had thought about just getting a different S4 assuming it was bad hardware causing gps/compass issues.. but haven't looked back. I do miss the ability to pull battery (haven't had any need too though), and the sdcard slot.
I traded mine my s4 for a g2 a few weeks ago and i love the change. Lg did a great job i love this phone, its better in every way except for the camera. Even though reviews say that the g2 camera is superior i don't agree i feel like the g2 camera was over hyped to me its really not that good. And the battery life is amazing but for me sometimes its also not so good it just drains for no reason. Im still glad about the change.
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I traded mine my s4 for a g2 a few weeks ago and i love the change. Lg did a great job i love this phone, its better in every way except for the camera. Even though reviews say that the g2 camera is superior i don't agree i feel like the g2 camera was over hyped to me its really not that good. And the battery life is amazing but for me sometimes its also not so good it just drains for no reason. Im still glad about the change.
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I sure appreciate the input of this thread. I would love to wait for the flex but I think I want to be rid of this S4 more. Sorry, this device just gnaws at me in a bunch of little ways... Its like, so many things that could have been just a little better... IMO.
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I do not regret buying the G2 and giving my wife the S4. I just love this phone, I don't miss the amoled screen at all.
From S4 to G2
I also sold the S4 for the G2 and the only thing I miss is the sd card slot. An sd card slot would have made this phone perfect. The camera on the S4 is slightly better though in some respects, but the mods found in this forum make it much better.
I have both but use my G2 wayyyyy more. If the G2 had expandable storage (or 64g internal) and ditched the on screen nav buttons it would be pretty much perfect...i might even be able to own only one device lol
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Went from the S4 to HTC One to S4 back to HTC ONE to G2, lol. Personally, the S4 was the least appealing. Wasn't as sexy as the One, nor a powerhouse as the G2. Honestly, if I had to recommend a phone, it'd be the One, but only for a basic user who wants a badass phone.
For a REAL android user, G2 ALL THE WAY.
Plus the battery was easily better than both. I used to get about 3-4hrs max on screen time with both one and s4, but g2 easily hits 5hrs with 20-25% remaining.

Who upgraded from a Samsung?

What Samsung (or any phone, really) did you upgrade from? What do you miss? What did you find better?
IMHO the design of the g3 was better for the white color, two-tone and not like a purse like the s5. Also was disappointed for another 1080p Samsung..
Anyone?
Design, UI, sexy. Came from S5 M8. And Moto x
I came from a note 3, I also owned a s5 for almost two weeks. Hated the s5 other than the water resistance, at the time there wasn't a root method. Loved my note 3 but had to deal with ROM problems to get as far from TouchWiz as possible.
Only thing I miss about my note 3 is the battery. Though the battery on the G3 gets the job done.
Beautiful phone. No problems so far.
Came from s5, had the m8 a couple weeks, g2, note 3, m7, etc etc
I miss a lot from the s5, although it's a lot of little things. Flashlight, call reject, all play store apps working (hell even my Amazon is a New version with a white icon on my s5) battery life (g3 is pretty bad) Milk (music streaming app that's actually really good), miss the option to have a text message preview on the lock screen vs "New message". I think the Samsung message app UI is better, the keyboard is better. Screen is brighter.
I am liking my g3 more and more, but it's likely I'll sell it and go back to my s5
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Came from a Razr Maxx HD. Battery was failing. Don't miss much about it performance was pretty bad period.
Coming from S3. After rooting and debloating it a bit (freezing from Titanium), I'm fairly happy with the purchase (bought unsubsidized to keep unlimited data, not in the mood to play the transfer game). The screen itself is a big improvement of course in all aspects (color, size, brightness etc), phone is very quick without lag overall when cleaned up and runs better than my S3 on CM11, and battery so far has been nice as well. Can't wait till we get some roms going....just got my wife a G2 to upgrade her as well and she has been extremely happy with the rom I flashed....and I must say, the G2 battery is just amazing with that rom....maybe G3 will get close when the roms roll around we'll see. Happy for now!
Came from a Note II, but owned the One Max for a few weeks, and hated it.
FWIW, you can long-press the recent apps button to pull up the legacy menu button.
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Came from s5, had the m8 a couple weeks, g2, note 3, m7, etc etc
I miss a lot from the s5, although it's a lot of little things. Flashlight, call reject, all play store apps working (hell even my Amazon is a New version with a white icon on my s5) battery life (g3 is pretty bad) Milk (music streaming app that's actually really good), miss the option to have a text message preview on the lock screen vs "New message". I think the Samsung message app UI is better, the keyboard is better. Screen is brighter.
I am liking my g3 more and more, but it's likely I'll sell it and go back to my s5
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Those are some good lounges that I miss from my samsung also, I do miss the milk out the most. Has anyone gotten the weather on the lockscreen to work yet?
Went from a Galaxy S3 to this. I liked my S3 for the most part (though it did hard brick at the very end a month or so ago), so I mainly just wanted to experience something different by going with LG. I'm very pleased with the decision so far. Again, nothing against Samsung or the S-series, I did enjoy my time with them and the device, I was just ready for a change.
Had the S5 for a month until the G3 came out. I love the G3 and have no complaints. The S5 was an okay phone, but it stuttered way more than the G3 IMO, even with Nova Launcher. I rooted both and had a custom rom on the S5 as well. The only gimmick I miss is the fingerprint scanner for Lastpass.
Battery on the G3 is way better for my uses, the camera is way better and the phone just fits in my hand. The boxiness (I have no idea if that's a word) of the S5 really bothered me, but I liked the feeling of the back plate.
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Went from a Galaxy S3 to this. I liked my S3 for the most part (though it did hard brick at the very end a month or so ago), so I mainly just wanted to experience something different by going with LG. I'm very pleased with the decision so far. Again, nothing against Samsung or the S-series, I did enjoy my time with them and the device, I was just ready for a change.
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I am in the same boat. Loved my s3 but really wanted something new. So far not much I miss. The g3 has what my s3 had plus some. I really like the IR blaster. Can control my TV and Xbox from my phone its really cool.
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I upgraded from an S3 and am extremely happy. The G3 has all the same features as the S3 and more. I can't speak for any other phone, but the only other phone I was thinking about getting was the Note 3 because i wanted something with a larger display. I might switch this phone out for the Note 4 if it has some of the same features as the S5.
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What Samsung (or any phone, really) did you upgrade from? What do you miss? What did you find better?
IMHO the design of the g3 was better for the white color, two-tone and not like a purse like the s5. Also was disappointed for another 1080p Samsung..
Anyone?
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Came from a GS3.. G3 blows it out of the water. IU is a hell of a lot better then TouchWiz. I always had an AOSP ROM on it.
Im coming from a GS3, was running some oooooold version of MOAR. Wasnt too bad except the battery was going to **** and it would die at ~40%, would also lose 10%/10 mins under heavy drain because reasons. Only complaint is the god awful dpi of everything with this beautiful screen. I need to root, toss xposed on there and get everything looking nice. Also this battery, uummfff its nice. 13 hrs off charger still at 70% with light use and about 20 mins of messing around with a game.
Galaxy S3, upgraded today!
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Never tried an LG android came from gs4, m7, gs5, m8 then back to gs5 and that's what I've been using picking up the g3 later today hope I like it. I got use to the no hardware keys and the double tap to wake off the m8. And if I'm not mistaken the lg does both of those.
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Never tried an LG android came from gs4, m7, gs5, m8 then back to gs5 and that's what I've been using picking up the g3 later today hope I like it. I got use to the no hardware keys and the double tap to wake off the m8. And if I'm not mistaken the lg does both of those.
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Correct
coming from most currently de note 3 but have had m7, m8, s3, s4 and note 2. I like the change so far but I still love my note and isn't going anywhere yet lol
Personal preference I find the G3 a great light/medium use device, but runs as warm/hot as my S4 with heavy use and just as bad battery life. The Note 3 seems a much better device for heavy use, but most people are not heavy users so 100% get why the G3 is appealing. Perhaps it is me being used to AMOLED (Razr, S3, S4, Note 3) is why I find the G3 display not as good as the S4 or Note 3. Contrast is the key for me and even adjusting the settings documented on the forums does not do much.
The one thing the G3 does have over the G3 for me is easier to manage with one hand than the Note 3. I find video, web and gaming though far better on the Note 3. Must admit I am surprised folks bailed from the Note 3, since Nova is an easy fix for the gosh awful atrocity known as Touch Wiz.
As far as the S5, I would choose the G3 over it due to storage space. A 16GB device now, especially with ART sucking 25% more storage and needing 1GB more floor to operate is NUTS. The battery life and performance are not far enough off to want to sacrifice twice the storage space.
Rippley05 said:
Came from s5, had the m8 a couple weeks, g2, note 3, m7, etc etc
I miss a lot from the s5, although it's a lot of little things. Flashlight, call reject, all play store apps working (hell even my Amazon is a New version with a white icon on my s5) battery life (g3 is pretty bad) Milk (music streaming app that's actually really good), miss the option to have a text message preview on the lock screen vs "New message". I think the Samsung message app UI is better, the keyboard is better. Screen is brighter.
I am liking my g3 more and more, but it's likely I'll sell it and go back to my s5
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For milk, If you're rooted, you can download the apk from androidpolice (they wrote an article about running milk on non Samsung devices) but if you run xposed and the chocolate milk module.. Good to go. Enjoy
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Are you happy with your S5?

How's it going guys I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and in 15 days I'll be able to jump to a new phone. I have a question for you guys... What are some pros and cons on the s5? I'm huge into flashing roms don't want to be stuck with another phone where the development is kind of dead.(Not knocking on the devs for the T-Mobile note 2 but development was pretty much non extent)
I recently made the jump both to T-Mobile from Verizon and the Galaxy S5 from the S3. I really liked the LG G3, but development there seemed to move at a snail's pace and there's still not much happening. For me it helped that I always ran Beanstown (Alliance) ROMS on my Verizon Galaxy S3 and seeing that team move to T-Mobile was a huge incentive. I like to tinker and maybe somewhere out there people are cooking up some good stuff for the LG, but the T-Mobile Galaxy was both familiar and easy to root, put a recovery on and flash new "available" ROMS. The phone it's self gets the job done and there are even some nice surprises once you plow through all the features. So long story short, if development is important to you, I don't think you can wrong with the Galaxy.
Yes. Absolutely. I've had the g2 and the 5s. The s5 was a huge upgrade from those phones
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Yes. Absolutely. I've had the g2 and the 5s. The s5 was a huge upgrade from those phones
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Im extremely happy with this phone even more so after putting alliance on it . I had a Att GS4 for 2 months and it had to go..It had a locked bootloader so there was no kernel flashing what so ever . Only custom roms based off stock . I also was thinking about the G3 until i took a look in the development thread and under original development it said NEVER. Everything meets my standards . Very VERY happy with my purchase
i have always loved stock android for its speed and customization , but with the s5 and xposed it just works very well and the battery life is awesome getting like 3 days on a charge on stock rom .
Also another happy user. When the S5 was announced I was disappointed but later down the line decided to try it again. I love the speed, camera, screen and feel of it. It really makes the s4 seem like a cheap toy in comparison. Used to be a nexus only guy, but will continue to support the galaxy s line.
Thanks guys looks like this will be the phone I'll be upgrading to.
I miss my note 3 and still like the LG g2 over my crapsung s5
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the device is very powerful and im mostly happy. the one thing that really bugs me is the phone doesnt work very well as a phone. dropped calls when i use wifi calling the person on the other end doesnt hear me sometimes. volte is screwy sound goes in and out during calls. maybe t mobile network is not developed enough,? idk i came from att with galaxy s3 the international one without lte and i had much less problems.
this morning i tried 5 times to make a call finally after reboot i was able to.
again not sure if its the phone, tmobile or my settings or a combination of all. but im not happy
Wait for the Note4, the s5 is a real disappointment.
Especially the childish looking OS, what a real drag!
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Wait for the Note4, the s5 is a real disappointment.
Especially the childish looking OS, what a real drag!
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Note 4 is too big. S5 LTE-A as the base flagship device would have been nice though. Otherwise, i came from the S4 and i love my S5. Overall its smoother, battery lasts forever even when downloading all day. Only down side of the phone is i had to pay for it ha.
had good battery life at first then the update killed that, still better than most.
the stock rom has tons of problems glitches errors all that, touchwiz is amazingly bad at everything, the camera is SO bad at focusing and actually taking pictures is a pain, every menu is just a huge wall of choices, no planning or thought went into streamlining TW
music playback skips (still)
tethering will not connect unless using a custom rom
phone slides out of my pocket like it was designed to do it
pixels visible on certain colors because its still a stupid pentile
msg to samsung; please copy the sense 6 msg app exactly, its lightyears ahead of yours
so other than halfway decent battery this phone is disappointing
on my 3rd replacement because data stops working all the time and calls are just pure static but the update fixed that
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I recently made the jump both to T-Mobile from Verizon and the Galaxy S5 from the S3.
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I did the same thing for all 5 of our lines (ETF pay off was the draw). The S5 is a great device. My mother has an S3 and the screen now looks small compared to the S5. The S5 has fantastic battery life and is very responsive in everything it does.
Very happy with the S5.
Also very happy with T-Mobile.
Overall I'm happy and would do it again.
I have to agree about the camera focus issue.....esp. closeups. I kind of think the the s4 camera was a bit better.
And I've had the s3, s4 and s5 and have always disliked the side button. The s5 is worst of all. I constantly look down at my pocket and my phone is doing things, like I pulled it out one time and it had brought itself into the playstore(!!!).....It has made multiple pocket calls on it's own. No kidding. I think I'm pressing the side button while slipping it into my pocket.
I ended up going with the Note 4 so far so good maybe I'll pick up an s5 to play with the roms in a few months
I was not happy with my AT&T S5 due to the locked bootloader. I am very happy with the TMO S5. Very customizable not toooo big, not too small. Doesn't lag, but gets a couple days of battery with medium use. Got a nice case and glass screen protector so it's pretty safe. Very dependable with Omega rom. What's not to love?
Very Pleased!
I am VERY pleased with my T-Mobile S5. It's my favorite phone I've owned thus far. I had the S3 before this and really liked that phone and also the Vibrant prior to that (which I was also pleased with). This is actually the 1st Galaxy phone that I've kept the TouchWiz base on though. I really enjoy the customization options on AOSP as well as the appearance, but I also enjoy the stability of KitKat TouchWiz base on this one (using XtreStoLite ROM by Edgar).
I like the Note 4 Specs, but it's just too big for me it wouldn't be comfortable in my pocket, and it's not like I wear skinny jeans either. Another nice luxury is the water resistance that the S5 offers, and the Note 4 does not. I hope that you enjoy your Note 4 though, best of luck!
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How's it going guys I currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 and in 15 days I'll be able to jump to a new phone. I have a question for you guys... What are some pros and cons on the s5? I'm huge into flashing roms don't want to be stuck with another phone where the development is kind of dead.(Not knocking on the devs for the T-Mobile note 2 but development was pretty much non extent)
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Even at the end of the year, I still very much like my Galaxy S5. The reasons I purchased it are still completely valid for me, even with the release of the Note 4 as well as several competitor's phones. Part of the criteria is that while I have a larger display, it shouldn't be too much larger in overall footprint than my prior phone. This put it over the Note 3 as the Note 4 was not available at that time.
Couple feature notes:
1. Screen size/quality. Prior to the Note 4, the S5 was also Display mates "best display ever" report winner. The Super AMOLED display at 5.1" also had phenomenal color matching when the display settings are set to Cinema.
2. Camera. 16 megapixel ISO cell outperformed in daylight conditions and in my opinion eliminated the low light issues I had with the Galaxy S3. Note 4 has optical stabilization, so it's a better camera if this is your number one feature.
3. micro SD card. Important feature, I use it extensively to get the most out of my phone. Pictures, Music, Movies do not consume storage on the phone and some applications support installation to SD card.
4. Environmental protection. The S5 is IP67 against dust and water. While it's not water proof, I've started YouTube and thrown it into pitchers of water for 15 minutes or so for the brag factor. So the feared toilet dunk is not as much a concern as you can wash it with soap and water after retrieval.
5. Fingerprint reader. Yeah, it's not perfect but when properly trained, you'll find it works pretty well. I use it not only to unlock my phone, but in combination with Last Pass (has support for S5 fingerprint reader) and Pay Pal applications (fingerprint to pay). There are more on the way. Would be nice if Google adopted the API as a standard so that Google Wallet used it as well.
Pros:
Moving from one Samsung phone to another is extremely easy, especially with the use of the Kies software to backup your content/settings.
Excellent display quality over Galaxy Note 2.
Greatly improved camera.
USB transfers are faster at USB 3.0
Pretty close to waterproof.
Great audio with headphones.
Solid Bluetooth functionality.
Touch Wiz UI has been greatly reduced in footprint and is actually useful.
Great battery life and the ability to go Ultra for days of power.
Fingerprint reader is supported by several third party developers besides just Samsung apps.
Official Samsung Qi wireless charging options are available (charging back or S View wireless cover).
Numerous case options
Cons:
USB cover must be closed for IP67 waterproofing.
Wireless Qi Charging Back from Samsung makes the phone FAT.
Touch Wiz UI as memory/performance impact.
KNOX security has a "electronic fuse" that once tripped voids warranty. Flashing ROMs may trip that fuse if proper methods are not followed.
Fingerprint reader is not as accurate as desired.
Plastic build (low on issue meter as case hides this, other premium build phones have their metal hidden by cases so it's no big deal)
Even well over 8 months after release you'll find that the Galaxy S5 is a great challenger to even the latest released phones. Processor and Video performance are still incredible.
That said, there is rumors of the S6 coming sooner, depending on if you are willing to wait until March you may find the newer product has specs worth waiting for. But if you have to upgrade now, I believe the S5 will continue to be a solid workhorse for a few more years. Which is good, at $600 it's expensive to get every single generation point release. I skipped the S4 for example when waiting to upgrade from my S3.
New to the s5, maybe 2 mths. I had one a few mths ago but the lack of dev made me sell it and stay with my s4 for a few more mths. Then I came across another s5 and decided the best way to fall in love with it was to donate one to my fav developer. So if you want to fall in love with your s5 check out my man @The Sickness and his sick and twisted rom....trust me you will be in love with it as i am. Support on the rom is far one of the best in my opinion, all due respect to all other threads.
OK but moving to note 4 in a couple months when I can jump
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[Q] Moving up from SGS3 - questions

I'm about to upgrade phones and looking at options between SGS5 and LG G3. I'm coming from a SGS3, so most question are in relative terms to it.
Only down sides I see right now are: no bootloader unlock (on either), screen brightness/dimness not as good as SGS5 (amolded vs ips lcd), and battery life.
Bootloader I'm up to speed on (have actually been reloading a few pages way to often this evening, good things can happen on Monday's right?). Does root and xpoused modules replace enough functionality to be passable right now? I'm use to messing with everything (led, added onscreen nav to the SGS3, embedded tweaks in the ROM, hotspot) of the mindset that nothing should inaccessible.
For the screen: seems to that the SGS5 gets dimmer and brighter. I work outside and use it in bed a lot so this is a fairly important point. BUT, the SGS3 is fine. How does the screen bright/dark compare to the SGS3?
Battery life: on par with SGS5, with the sammy doing slightly better most likely due to the QHD. On my SGS3 I get average ~18.5hr (by GSam stats), custom ROM, kernel, tweaks, everything... Need better than this though, have a second battery almost everywhere (bag, car, work) if I need it, just depends how heavy the day gets. What has been the battery experience so far, and anticipate it getting better when the bootlock is shattered.
Nothing about the SGS5 moves me other than the IP67 rating, but the port plugs would get annoying with a case I think, and if it's bootloader is broken either not sure if I could stay with it and touchwiz taint.
Thanks for any input.
wrong thread, apologies, thought I was on the Q&A.
My G3 is much brighter in sun than my GS3. For max brightness, turn auto-off and slide to 100%.
My G3 gets way more battery life than my GS3. At the end of the GS3, maybe the batteries were just going bad, but I did have 2 different ones that I had swapped during the time I had it.
Root/Xposed gets me everything I want, so I don't really care about the bootloader. Actually, stock was pretty darn good as far as customization capabilities.
I agree with lexluthor. Brightness on the G3 is MUCH better than the GS3. I typically run 50% with auto brightness and I think that gets brighter than the GS3 did. The G3 does not get as dim though. I use my phone as my alarm clock and it took a while to get used to how bright it is at night even at 0% brightness.
G3 has much better battery life than the GS3. When I switched, I struggled to get through a day without having to charge. Now I usually have over 50% battery at the end of the day. However, I'm sure part of that was degradation of the battery after two years.
Screen on the g3 is brighter than the gs3 but not as bright as the gs5. Plenty bright to see outside IMO tho.
Battery life is slightly better (maybe) than the gs3 but it's negligible, not as good as the s5.
Xposed helps, and even tho the g3 still offers customization..it isn't as much as the g2 offered. Its give or take with the s5 because they both offer different customizations.
The g3 looks much better that the s5, even being bigger, it feels great.
You're splitting hairs between the 2, and honestly, the g3s major selling point over the s5 (QHD) is barely noticeable in most cases. The s5 still has one of the best displays available. The g3 and s5 both have exceptional displays.
There are some hiccups and imperfections throughout the g3 software, so just be aware of it. Great phone, but a lot of room for improvement
I just refuse to buy another Samsung phone due to KNOX and voiding your warranty even if you return to stock.
No thanks.
The G3 looks better and has better ergonomics.
Also the GS5 is 16GB Flash and 2GB RAM vs 32GB Flash and 3GB RAM for the G3.
You are less likely to get that "out of memory" or low memory warning on the G3.
I came from the gs3 and honestly i miss it. I was rooted running liquid smooth and that phone was a beast. Xposed on the g3help
g3 helps but still a lot to be desired. Bootloader is the key. To happiness for me.
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I came from the gs3 and honestly i miss it. I was rooted running liquid smooth and that phone was a beast. Xposed on the g3help
g3 helps but still a lot to be desired. Bootloader is the key. To happiness for me.
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Well, if that's the case you are more likely to see a LG G3 unlocked than the GS5.
The GS5 bootloader is signed with SHA256 just like the GS4 and there is a bounty of almost $20K that is still uncollected after a year.
After MDK on the GS4 there is no LOKI and only Safestrap.There is Safestrap for the S5 but you are limited to TW variants of ROMs.
Anyway, good luck.
I gave my GS4 to my daughter which was an upgrade from a GS3. I have not looked back.
Read lots of reviews on both. Gs5 five came out slightly ahead in most and lg in display. My wife has a gs4. She reminded me how well we loved lg phones. I had 4 and she had 3. I have been running mine 3 days now. Glad to be back.
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Well, if that's the case you are more likely to see a LG G3 unlocked than the GS5.
The GS5 bootloader is signed with SHA256 just like the GS4 and there is a bounty of almost $20K that is still uncollected after a year.
After MDK on the GS4 there is no LOKI and only Safestrap.There is Safestrap for the S5 but you are limited to TW variants of ROMs.
Anyway, good luck.
I gave my GS4 to my daughter which was an upgrade from a GS3. I have not looked back.
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I do agree that if we had to pick, the g3 would get a boot loader unlock first. It's a shame that nobody is able to defeat these new "security" measures.
Honestly. I don't think the g3 will ever see a boot loader unlock either. The phone just doesn't seem all that popular. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I'm just irritated that we can't do as we please with phones we own anymore. It was so fun on the Evo, Evo 3d and Evo lte. There was plenty of development, themes, stock and aosp roms, MIUI. It was great..
I wouldn't switch back to the gs5 even though I love the amoeled with an all black theme. I'm guessing we have a better chance at unlocked boot loader with the g3 though. If you want to have full customizability maybe consider the M8. I also tried that phone and have the whole s-off ROM thing done but I'll stick with the g3. With the m8 the camera is what puts it out of the comparison for me. The gs5 and g3 both get much better pics IMO. Battery seemed best for me with the gs5 then the m8 and last g3. I'm always near a charger so battery have never been an issue with me. You coming from the gs3 will notice a huge difference.
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Thanks everyone.
Think that answers that, LG G3 it is. Just don't expect huge increase in battery and be patient and hopeful for the unlock.
@jaguarpaw - same here with LS, going to miss it but they'll get it running soon after unlock I'm sure.
Any case recommendations?
Running a Seido OBEX (worked in aquatic enviroment), can go a little lighter and not water-sealed but some would be nice.
Rippley05 said:
I do agree that if we had to pick, the g3 would get a boot loader unlock first. It's a shame that nobody is able to defeat these new "security" measures.
Honestly. I don't think the g3 will ever see a boot loader unlock either. The phone just doesn't seem all that popular. Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I'm just irritated that we can't do as we please with phones we own anymore. It was so fun on the Evo, Evo 3d and Evo lte. There was plenty of development, themes, stock and aosp roms, MIUI. It was great..
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These new security features, especially those from Samsung, were co-developed by General Dynamics and the NSA so that GD could sell a secure phone. The previous phone was the Sectera Edge and it was based on old Windows Mobile.
See: http://www.gdc4s.com/secure-smartphones-prod-category-listing?taxonomyCat=511
The only way the Samsung phones are going to see the bootloader unlocked is if Samsung sells one that is unlocked.
There are no known backdoors for SHA256 and the computing time to brute force is just insane. So we know there is and will not be a bootloader unlock for the Samsung Galaxy "whatever".
HTC and LG currently do not sign their bootloaders with SHA256. There is hope.
HTC is easy, they have the S-OFF USB thing for people that refurb phones. Not cheap, but it works. They also will unlock the bootloader for all but AT$T and Veri$on.
Anyway, an unlocked bootloader is a "NICE" thing to have.
I will not buy a phone that cannot be rooted. Even if I have to stay on an older version of the firmware, root is a must for me.
Stock to stock from s3 to G3 is a no brainer. Now talking development, it's no where near the s3....yet. I'd imagine in time it will be.
I honestly haven't felt the need to root yet. I don't notice the lag people talk about but once in a blue moon on the apps drawer. I do at times run Nova and takes care of that.
Brightness is perfectly fine and should suffice for most. It's a little difficult in bright light, but no worse than my s3.
Battery life just depends what kind of user you are. Your s3 battery probably worse down after a while like mine did. Easy enough for our phones, just get a new battery. I generally get 16-18 hours in a work day with about 2 hours SOT. Off days, 13_14 hours with 3 hours SOT. Mix of 4G and wifi.
No idea how people off stock can get over 5 hours SOT. I am not one of those lucky ones.
Honestly never had amazing battery life besides getting extended batteries. Must just be hard on phones. Even get good signal most places as well...
Anyway, this is a great phone and much rather deal with lg software over Sammy... Way more polished and pleasing to the eye IMO.
Enjoying the discussion in this thread. I also have the S3 and the only reason I haven't bought the G3 is because of my love of tinkering with the OS.
I've had the OG Moto Droid (physical keyboard), Verizon Nexus, and S3... all 'hackable'. I can't quite come to terms with the potential of not having my bootloader unlocked for 2 years yet.

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