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I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
one last thing, a few posts said "mine died"... is this totally dead? will they be able to see if it was rooted in this case?
Sorry for the long post!
ps, please post color and (maybe model number???) and if its broken or not
xsirhc6x said:
I will be purchasing one soon, but i see alot of problems! Is this just because no one posts "everything is good" and most posts are just going to be "mine broke"?
including, leds/trackball light, broken pixels, screen gap etc
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Mine is an unlocked HTC-branded brown one. No hardware problems so far (2 weeks).
xsirhc6x said:
also is there any thing in common between the broken ones? Ex mostly white ones are breaking
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Problems with build-quality (screen gap) seems isolated to some batches of operator-branded phones.
xsirhc6x said:
and does htc offer a warranty at all?, i found the hero for 580 usd w/ free shipping but no return policy/warranty...this is scaring me!
Should i get white with teflon coating or brown which i sort of like more?
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The brown one also has a rubbery-like surface. Not sure if its teflon, but its definitely not the usual hard&glossy surface that most phones have.
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also i plan on rooting the hero, and i want to be clear on if you can put it back to normal after rooting if i have to return to htc.
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It shouldn't be a problem. I'd also expect HTC to reload a "known good image" on any returned phone before they run any form of diagnostics test.
thanks very much!
No problems with mine either..going on two weeks, white unlocked from clove.co.uk.
No problem here
all good here... lovin my hero!!!
Mine is still perfectly fine - no issues with build/hardware at all.
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
shaji007 said:
personally
before i bought my htc hero
i read reviews
most of them having a go at this n that and forums complaining about broken this n that
personally and through experience
reviews are just dumb they pick out on anything and everything i suppose thats what reviews are for but some of the stuff ive read on hero are really lame
and broken hardware etc comes to one result
people not taking care of the phones ive had me hero for some time theres nothing on it not even a scratch tried scratching the screen and back with a key no marks
its a good robust phone
it wont let you down
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well i just have to point out something. I bought my phone a week ago and till a few days ago, me too i thought that i was a happy hero owner until i read issues about the led thing and checked my phone. I do not know if i have the headphone prob as i never checked it out. What i want to say is that some issues are present and you wont notice them unless u pay attention to them.
Do u want to say that gap issues between the screen and more than 30 ppl complaining about issues with led,trackball and headphones ( probably more but some of us do not know it yet) are due to the fact that we dont take care of our phones????
I'm gonna jump right in, and just say. i've had my hero for 2 weeks and loving it.
This is my first android phone, so I took a little getting used to, think the missus is getting fed up with me checking forums and stuff. But all in all I am extremly happy with my Hero.
I use it everyday for:
E-mail
Facebook
Calls
Messages
USB Modem
Surfing
RSS
Podcasts
Performs better than my Ipod Touch ever did, and I almost never have to hook it up to the laptop... Loving IT!
so far mine works fine (1 week). the gap is a problem with some branded phones but mine (T-Mobile Germany "2G Touch") has no gap. the problems with the headphones and LED seem to be software related, since there is a workaround to manually activate the headphone again.
oh and BTW I <3 Hero. best phone i ever had.
got 2 on first release from orange (graphite), 6 weeks ago, 1 for me and 1 for me gf.
no screen gap issues, no dead pixels on arrival, but i had one appear after 2 weeks, right down bottom right of phone, extremely small and never notice it at all unless im on dead pixel detect.
gfs phone hasnt any dead pixels as of yet.
not a single other problem like leds or headphones.
2 totally happy customers here.
Totally happy with mine, no hardware problems so far.
Best phone I've ever had especially with how much I
Like to mess with stuff.
I was happy only one day. If I use longer (about 10 min) my Hero screen starts flashing. If I make reset, everything is ok for some period. I hope it's not serious problem.
I had the LED issue for a while, but just updated to the new rom, and they are back, so this could be a software, not hardware issue
Oh, and love love love the phone
I have read many posts saying that the new ROM update will fix LED and Headphone jack issues.
I just bought a phone on eBay myself, haven't had the chance to play around with it too much since I need to change my plan beforehand, but I have turned it on and look around and everything is fine. It is a White Unlocked one. I must say, the Teflon coating is like nothing I've ever felt before on a phone, it just makes it feel like a million bucks!
But besides the color, which is up to you, I would say get the phone! There is always a 1 year manufacturer warranty, even if the seller doesn't offer you one of their own.
An official HTC update will be coming out VERY soon if you don't like the idea of loading up a custom ROM (although it is highly recommended as there are added quirks such as root access).
I am either returning my Prime today or trading it for another (one more time). I have had to exchange at best buy a couple of times due to the horrible screen tearing on the first one in gallery, camera and several other apps. Second prime the bottom of the screen died in less than 3 days and would never come back. Factory reset/ cold boot/ soft boot/ you name it. So now im on my third prime and i am still getting artifacts on my home screen and other apps. I have done the whole factory rest, install from sd, cold boot, soft boot, and nothing will stop this dang artifacting. Is this a common problem with the prime and i should expect it from ALL primes, or am i a victim of bad luck and should try another prime? If the majority has issues with this, i am returning it, but if the majority never experiences it i would love to exchange it and get a good working tab that i can keep. Not to keen on anything else until the S4 Krait hits tabs.
thanks for as many replies as possible as i hope to get a good number of responses so i can determine if its a flaw in all primes or just the ones i have had the fortune of using.
Thanks for your time!
Edit, here is a test that anyone with the app can try and reproduce.
C4 Here and have them happen sporadically and easily produced in several apps and launcher. Beautiful widgets is the easiest. I have been wanting someone to test this but haven't had any luck. Just set the beautiful widget forecast (last widget in the list of BW's) on any screen. tap the widget to access the animated graphics. If you location does not have the moving clouds change it to San Diego as it has been cloudy here for a couple of weeks. While the clouds are moving click either the clock or the recent apps button and usually within seconds you will start getting severe artifacts. I have been able to reproduce this on every prime i have gotten my hands on. I also get screen tearing/flickering in androbench pretty regularly but it is different than the artifact. My first prime, before i had it replaced suffered horribly from the left hand side of the screen turning static in camera and other apps. After that replacement my prime and those i have access to suffer the artifacts on .28 in several apps. Someone please try the BW scenario to a tee and give it about 30 seconds at most and see if you receive the artifacts.
I can't blame the BW app though as i have it happen more randomly in several apps, its just that i can reproduce it easily with the BW animation.
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mine stopped for now. ever since I did a manual reinstallation of the firmware & did a full wipe, only saw it 2 times on random occasions. Gone after a reboot.
p/s : b4 reinstallation & wipe, reboot wouldnt solve a thing. the damn problem sticks around
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mine stopped for now. ever since I did a manual reinstallation of the firmware & did a full wipe, only saw it 2 times of random occasions. Gone after a reboot.
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Thanks! That is exactly what i am after, just some confirmation that it is a wide spread issue. I hate being picky, but my unit gets them pretty bad and i am holding out hopes that this doesn't affect all primes. Im gonna update the OP with a test if anyone else that reads this can try. It almost always forces screen artifacts that can't be reproduced on any of my other ICS tabs or phones.
Thanks again!
Also, i did the whole factory reset, installed via sd, hard boot, soft boot, and nothing gets rid of them...
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welrope said:
Thanks! That is exactly what i am after, just some confirmation that it is a wide spread issue. I hate being picky, but my unit gets them pretty bad and i am holding out hopes that this doesn't affect all primes. Im gonna update the OP with a test if anyone else that reads this can try. It almost always forces screen artifacts that can't be reproduced on any of my other ICS tabs or phones.
Thanks again!
Also, i did the whole factory reset, installed via sd, hard boot, soft boot, and nothing gets rid of them...
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This issue is a Graphics Driver Issue (I'm 99% Sure). It was almost gone in .21 (I never had it). The graphic drivers was cleaned up in this latest patch, and after that some users have been having this issue.
It's just a buggy driver / incompatibility with some apps.
No ;l
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No ;l
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Are you saying you have never had the issue?
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welrope said:
Are you saying you have never had the issue?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA Premium HD app
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not really. I had it maybe once or twice. it was either from an update or overclocking. the home screen icon and recent apps looked like it was glitching. I rebooted the prime n never seen it again. I wouldn't call that a display issue. Only a 1 time thing. never had anything like you described where bottom of screen or whatever died out on me.
Overall, I've been very satisfied with my prime display. its been performing fine for me. very responsive.
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not really. I had it maybe once or twice. it was either from an update or overclocking. the home screen icon and recent apps looked like it was glitching. I rebooted the prime n never seen it again. I wouldn't call that a display issue. Only a 1 time thing. never had anything like you described where bottom of screen or whatever died out on me.
Overall, I've been very satisfied with my prime display. its been performing fine for me. very responsive.
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That gives me hope, I wonder if i should try replacing the one i have once more. The screen tearing is the only think keeping this from being a perfect pad for me. I get the tearing in androbench, my home screen, weather forecast and even when unlocking my prime. Also, after following your recommendations on improving performance, all i can say is wow, made it a new machine (-minus the screen artifacts that have always been there even on .21.) So, in your opinion, do you think i have a lemon and my problem is specific to my prime and should replace it? or do you think this is a common problem and should just return it?
Was very curious and decided to check it myself, but sorry mate, I wasn't able to reproduce it on beautifull widget. DO you have another app I could try to reproduce the issue ?
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I have the same problem with Apex Launcher the left side of the screen starts to glitch and the only solution is to restart. It goes away for some time but after a while it comes back. I figured it's a software issue and just stopped using apex launcher. I'm curious if the problem is still there with some of the non-stock roms, but if it's the graphics driver I presume it's there ... Let's hope that with the next update things are going to be better.
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I have the same problem with Apex Launcher the left side of the screen starts to glitch and the only solution is to restart. It goes away for some time but after a while it comes back. I figured it's a software issue and just stopped using apex launcher. I'm curious if the problem is still there with some of the non-stock roms, but if it's the graphics driver I presume it's there ... Let's hope that with the next update things are going to be better.
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The cheap solution when using Apex is to just rotate the screen, scroll and rotate it back... it will get rid of it
ThiaiZ said:
Was very curious and decided to check it myself, but sorry mate, I wasn't able to reproduce it on beautifull widget. DO you have another app I could try to reproduce the issue ?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
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It only does it for me if the weather forecast is cloudy.( which it has been here lately) lol. Change your location to Miami or San Diego as they are having some bad/cloudy weather. Once you have a location set with "mostly cloudy" conditions, watch how choppy the clouds move when you click on the widget for the forecast. While the clouds are scrolling, open settings by clicking the clock in the lower corner, let it expand, and just wait. Within seconds my screen will start artifacting all over the place.
Also, thanks and thanked!
Have a BCOKA unit purchased in Dec 2011 (received in Jan) and have never experienced any sort of screen artifacts or tearing. BW weather forecast screen has been showing clouds flowing across the screen for 15 minutes now and still going smoothly.
I've never had tearing or artifacts and I have an old Prime (BCOKAS arrive Dec. 27th, 2011).
I did have all the blacks on my screen turn red (search for my thread) and had to RMA for that to get fixed but it turned out to be a hardware problem and Asus replaced my main board. I don't think this is a problemwith all Primes though. Maybe you'll get a better one this time. Good luck man.
The screen tearing is not the Prime's hardware - it's Asus and their incompetence in putting out decent firmwares. I can just about guarantee this is the situation. I had my Prime since launch. It had terrible screen tearing when I first got it. One of their early firmware updates just about completely solved the issue, and it was working great all the way through .21. Then, as soon as I installed the .28 update, the screen tearing and artifacting came back again. So like I said, it's definitely not a faulty prime (hardware wise). I'd suggest either keeping your Prime and waiting for an update that fixes this, or just returning it and getting another tablet.
As for some of the other issues caused by Asus using a garbage LCD, such as LCD mura (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550530), screen bleeding, and dead/stuck pixels, that's another story.
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That gives me hope, I wonder if i should try replacing the one i have once more. The screen tearing is the only think keeping this from being a perfect pad for me. I get the tearing in androbench, my home screen, weather forecast and even when unlocking my prime. Also, after following your recommendations on improving performance, all i can say is wow, made it a new machine (-minus the screen artifacts that have always been there even on .21.) So, in your opinion, do you think i have a lemon and my problem is specific to my prime and should replace it? or do you think this is a common problem and should just return it?
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I tried your BW test. the animations look and move great on my prime. I let it sit and no screen artifacts turned up. I did see in the options for BW that it said animations were an experimental feature and could cause possible issues. but none on mines though.
as for your situation, I'm not sure. I would say try exchanging again. but I'm starting to think if its maybe an app or combo of apps you have that's causing this. so this happens randomly, no matter what you are doing or app you're using? or is this only occurring when using certain apps or whatever? its kinda sounding like its your apps. did your prime do this immediately out the box brand new? or did this only start occurring after you installed certain apps or Widgets?
just curious, you don't have force gpu on in developer options, do you? that has caused similar issues before.
like previous poster said, I think this is a software issue. which will be solved through an update. maybe even try a manual install of update through Asus website. its a more thorough install.
After .28 I had some of this but none since words with friends put out the update. No doubt a combination of running processes, video drivers and in my case ezoverclock.
Not all Prime have this issue... however, there are enough that DO have this issue.
Just return the device.... don't decide based on what the "future" update will do.. or hopefully will do.
Don't even bother taking a chance.
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I tried your BW test. the animations look and move great on my prime. I let it sit and no screen artifacts turned up. I did see in the options for BW that it said animations were an experimental feature and could cause possible issues. but none on mines though.
as for your situation, I'm not sure. I would say try exchanging again. but I'm starting to think if its maybe an app or combo of apps you have that's causing this. so this happens randomly, no matter what you are doing or app you're using? or is this only occurring when using certain apps or whatever? its kinda sounding like its your apps. did your prime do this immediately out the box brand new? or did this only start occurring after you installed certain apps or Widgets?
just curious, you don't have force gpu on in developer options, do you? that has caused similar issues before.
like previous poster said, I think this is a software issue. which will be solved through an update. maybe even try a manual install of update through Asus website. its a more thorough install.
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Glad you are helping so here are the steps i have taken. I do a lot of research before i post as to limit the amount of time i need to take up. I too thought the app was an incompatibility until i went through the process of removing and formatting my SD card and placing the update zip from ASUS. Booted into what i would call bootloader and factory reset my prime. Once booted, i inserted the sdcard and the went through the upgrade process. Once done i skipped login and allowed the system to settle and then did a hard reboot followed by a soft reboot. I then choose to not restore my apps and only downloaded the BW widget. once opened and set to a location where it was cloudy, clicked the settings launcher and expanded by clicking the clock, which left the animation in the background and within 10- 15 seconds the artifacts became worse and worse. Entire sections of the screen would turn white or green for a split second. I removed the app and downloaded other apps one at a time and found that i would get the same flicker/glitch when using androbench. Also had and issue, when using the gallery, that the screen started scrolling white horizontal lines and slowed to a halt before rebooting. I recently had to travel to San Diego for a week, (poor me) and had my girlfriend go by BB and outright buy another tablet and as i couldn't trust the one i had and figured i would return whichever one worked (Money isn't an issue, just want this prime's display to behave.) Well, as soon as i unboxed it, logged in, allowed it to update, downloaded BW as a test and guess what, same flicker. Granted neither of these had the issues the first two Primes i had to exchange had, when half or most of the screen either went to static or completely quit responding/working.
Now to the interesting part. Both Primes in my possession when i returned home i could test further. I went through the same process of manually wiping, wiping, updating, HB/SB, FR yada yada and only installed the BW app and both Primes behaved the exact same way. As soon as i would expand the recent apps or settings overlay the screen would start to produce odd geometric shapes and would continue every few seconds (the flash is noticeable but quick). Now some good news. The prime i currently have was kept for a few reasons. THE GPS WORKS WELL!!! I have no issues with WIFI, 3/4 bars from70 ft connected to a Cisco 1262. Streaming Netflix with a set of slim JB Bluetooth headsets is a breeze. All of my games (Nova 3, Adrenaline6, Gun Bros, and multiple others play wonderfully and i can honestly say i have never had a game reset/ act funny/ or ANR. My browser would occasionally ANR but it wasn't too bad. The Prime i bought in San Diego would not get a gps signal sitting beside the prime i kept that was getting 10 satellites. Wifi on one prime was -84 in a location that my current prime gets a -66 with a 72Mbps connection. Games would force close on the other prime, Browser would just randomly close. SOD EVERY MORNING. So needless to say i returned it and kept the current one i have. I have tested all i know to test, and no, i don't have force gpu ticked. I have worked with Android for a while and have a Xoom running EOS that doesn't suffer any of the mentioned problems. (one heck of a tablet i might add). But as someone who travels a lot, and the work i do, this can be my laptop replacement.
So all in all i have a tablet that works wonderfully in every area except the fact that it will (at will) artifact/tear using BW animation. It will randomly artifact using Androbench, gallery, camera, quadrant, and both stock launcher and apex pro. Last and notable thing is it seems to do it less if i set the brightness to a static level, say 50%. All of this happens/ bone stock/ root/ no root. Currently running root with your build.prop, the atp app, and sio and this guy is rocking a lot better in the user experience (I/O)
Sorry for the rant, just giving all the info i have. No noob here and wish i could just unlock it and dive into it but cant do it as i don't know if it is hardware.
Thanks for all of the opinions and as soon as my thanking well replenishes i will thank those that i missed!
shinzz said:
Not all Prime have this issue... however, there are enough that DO have this issue.
Just return the device.... don't decide based on what the "future" update will do.. or hopefully will do.
Don't even bother taking a chance.
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Bro, i know you have told me that and my gut says that what i should do as i have kinda been asking this same question in some of the other threads. Thought i would quit hi-jacking and create a post to just see how wide spread this is. I mean dang, i am on my 4th prim in exactly 30 days and only one of them functioned above 75 percent of expected performance. So scared that if i replace it again, i will be out of a 499 tablet as i will likely target practice with it with my 45. lol. Seriously though, i believe you got it right, too many of them have this problem. Sucky thing is i can seem to find an alternative that has what a really want, an S4 krait or a exynos quad and the same docking alternative that the prime has.
So you think there are primes out there that wouldn't have the screen issues i am having? I know i don't think anyone has said they have never experienced it.
Was this a problem when it was on GingerBread?
Thanks,
Alright I found a fix for the Black Crush Problem.
Note these steps are just how I stumbled upon the fix. I'm not guaranteeing it would fix your Black crush but it fixed mine. I listed everything I did before it was fixed.
This is for you to Re-Enact It's not a guarantee.
WHAT IS BLACK CRUSH?
Watch this video for an example:Click Me
Explanation: It's when our phone can not display the black levels correctly resulting in clipping where there would be shadows, grey areas, dark areas, etc.
To Test if You Have Black Crush/Clipping
Watch This Video:Click Me To Watch
The most notable part if you have Black crush begins at 0:11
If there's no Black Crush/Clipping you're straight. If not try this out then test it again afterwards.
I know YouTube isn't what causes the black crush. I'm just listing what I had expereinced so you may re-enact it and hopefully reach the same solution I have.
On CMW Recovery Update your rom to
"[Rom]~[UCLF5]~TEAM PERFECTION'S ICS OBJECTION|06/28|SGSIII|S Voice|Fast|Spiced UP RC1"
Click Me
Now Follow the Instruction to Update to that rom by every detail.
Update to RC1 Non Flash after Successfully Booting the rom.
Youtube should be broken (At least mine was) Uninstall with Titanium Back-up
Uninstall Launcher with Titanium back up
Boot into CMW Recovery and clear Dalvick Cache and Fix permissions
Reboot
Re-install Youtube
When You reboot It should say "Optimizing Android 1/140" and it'll boot up normally.
After that black crush should be fixed. Test it with YouTube or any of your Pictures that had Black Crush on it before.
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Alright I found a fix for the Black Crush Problem.
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Go on youtube and search up Dusk Maiden of Amnesia Opening
Youtube Should be broken (At least mine was) Uninstall with Titanium Back-up
When You reboot It should say "Optimizing Android 1/140" and it'll boot up normally.
After that black crush should be fixed.
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So let me get this straight.. Since youtube is no longer installed, you can't see this nonsense "black crush", so problem fixed.
khaytsus said:
So let me get this straight.. Since youtube is no longer installed, you can't see this nonsense "black crush", so problem fixed.
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Nahhh, my youtube was just broken I just included every detail that I could so that you guys could re-enact my actions. I re-installed youtube right after.
So, I've noticed I even get major distortion in the black borders of some trailers like these two from Iron Man 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNQowwwwYa0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siQgD9qOhRs
It's like there's some crazy static in the borders. Is everyone experiencing this, or did I just get a particularly bad one?
Black crush has nothing to do with the Youtube app.
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Black crush has nothing to do with the Youtube app.
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Like I said, I added it into the instructions because it's what I experienced. I know that the Youtube app does nothing with the Black crush and it is merely the phone that cannot process / display the black levels correctly Lol.
Black Crush/Clipping
Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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lol does samsung really deny it exists?
even tho hundreds of people claim and show it does?
You cannot fix black crush!. ,.ics fixed the branding issues but that's it.. this thread is useless and has been attempted many times....
I can live with it.... no problems here.
I don't have it..and if I do...it doesn't bother me at all ..I love my note
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No software tweak can fix a known hardware issue.
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My first note didn't have it and my second one did until this happened. I wasn't looking for a fix I was simply trying to fix my youtube and it fixed itself.
My note didn't have it...
When I first got it I was AMAZED on how good the colors were... I rooted, flashed at I got it
But I don't really care.. fast phone big screen ultimate customization
I can care less about a black crush ^_^
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wow its really bad... especially with a SAMOLED display. my black background looks terrible
murso74 said:
wow its really bad... especially with a SAMOLED display. my black background looks terrible
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Played the video on both my PC's monitor, and phone at the same time, and the phone looked fine.
JGuinan007 said:
Black crush/clipping can not be fixed. No one is even sure what causes the issue (is it software or hardware?), Samsung denies it even exists, the level of black crush/clipping varies on different Galaxy Notes, and there are some people who claim their Notes are perfect and show no signs of black crush/clipping at all. All Devs that were working on this Issue have given up, the closest thing to a fix they could come up with was moving the clipping point from between 0/1 to between 6/7 on ICS.
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This.
OP, I'd love to see a photograph (not a screenshot) of your Note displaying the gamma test image in a dark room. If it shows no clipping, I'll try ICS Perfection.
could this be fixed with uclf6 ?
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could this be fixed with uclf6 ?
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Not likely.
I know this is amaze 4G forums but I was a little bit surprised to see this on the Internet. Galaxy S 3 for 500 dollars only!
http://1saleaday.com/wireless/
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Edit- wondering if anyone will jump on this deal. I'm thinking about it.
xndabox said:
I know this is amaze 4G forums but I was a little bit surprised to see this on the Internet. Galaxy S 3 for 500 dollars only!
http://1saleaday.com/wireless/
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using xda app-developers app
Edit- wondering if anyone will jump on this deal. I'm thinking about it.
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That is the At&t version. Won't work on T-Mobile 3g
Why would you want a gs3 anyway? The screen is really bad, the white looks like blue! I'm hoping the rumored HTC One X + comes out soon for T-Mobile.
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That is the At&t version. Won't work on T-Mobile 3g
Why would you want a gs3 anyway? The screen is really bad, the white looks like blue! I'm hoping the rumored HTC One X + comes out soon for T-Mobile.
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and that blue saturation thing can be fixed if you use a kernel with voodoo color control in it
For the record, that 1900mhz is being deployed at the moment, currently active in my area, so what network it's from shouldn't matter soon.
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benya said:
That is the At&t version. Won't work on T-Mobile 3g
Why would you want a gs3 anyway? The screen is really bad, the white looks like blue! I'm hoping the rumored HTC One X + comes out soon for T-Mobile.
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What blue saturation?
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It works for my area even though it's att, I don't see the blue saturation on my friends s3. Also even though I don't like touchwiz there is cm9. No way you can tell me it's not the best phone out right now. Then again I guess that's what opinions are for.
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For the record, that 1900mhz is being deployed at the moment, currently active in my area, so what network it's from shouldn't matter soon.
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What blue saturation?
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I wish 1900 was active in my area (NJ/NYC), but it isn't. It's only active in a handful of places. If it was, I would have the One X already. I went to the T-Mobile store with cash in hand ready to pay full price for the gs3. My Amaze is good, but the short battery life is frustrating. I also would love a larger screen. After holding the two phones side by side, I cannot get past the blue screen when it should be white. Open a web page and compare the backgrounds of the Amaze or One X to the Gs3 and it is painful. I decided to suffer with my Amaze until HTC or someone else releases a new flagship with a great battery and a screen that shows white as white. Please be the One X+!!!.
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I wish 1900 was active in my area (NJ/NYC), but it isn't. It's only active in a handful of places. If it was, I would have the One X already. I went to the T-Mobile store with cash in hand ready to pay full price for the gs3. My Amaze is good, but the short battery life is frustrating. I also would love a larger screen. After holding the two phones side by side, I cannot get past the blue screen when it should be white. Open a web page and compare the backgrounds of the Amaze or One X to the Gs3 and it is painful. I decided to suffer with my Amaze until HTC or someone else releases a new flagship with a great battery and a screen that shows white as white. Please be the One X+!!!.
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I think the device in store had issues, I have a tmo s3 that's as white as white can be, no blue tint what so ever, so you should check back, even have em check the device you get specifically before you leave the store to be sure it's okay, mine is, well, PERFECT.
And I'm in NYC, it's not covering the entire NYC area as yet but my area is, so eh that's good enough for me.
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I think the device in store had issues, I have a tmo s3 that's as white as white can be, no blue tint what so ever, so you should check back, even have em check the device you get specifically before you leave the store to be sure it's okay, mine is, well, PERFECT.
And I'm in NYC, it's not covering the entire NYC area as yet but my area is, so eh that's good enough for me.
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I have checked multiple s3s from all the carriers, it's all of them. I am not imagining this, its a well documented problem. Just Google Galaxy s3 blue screen. If I had never seen the screen on my Amaze or the One X, I could probably have lived with it. But having seen what a proper display looks like, I can't bear to own an inferior product, even with its other advantages that I crave. For some people its not a big deal. I wish it wasn't a big deal to me, because other than the screen, the gs3is awesome!
Where exactly in NYC do you get 3g on 1900? I have some unlocked world phones I want to go test!! Thanks for the info!
Edit- after reading some of those posts I found on Google, it seems someone has found a solution to the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687260&highlight=browser+tint
Next time I'm in a cell phone store I'll try it. I wonder if that will drain the battery faster though?
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I have checked multiple s3s from all the carriers, it's all of them. I am not imagining this, its a well documented problem. Just Google Galaxy s3 blue screen. If I had never seen the screen on my Amaze or the One X, I could probably have lived with it. But having seen what a proper display looks like, I can't bear to own an inferior product, even with its other advantages that I crave. For some people its not a big deal. I wish it wasn't a big deal to me, because other than the screen, the gs3is awesome!
Where exactly in NYC do you get 3g on 1900? I have some unlocked world phones I want to go test!! Thanks for the info!
Edit- after reading some of those posts I found on Google, it seems someone has found a solution to the problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1687260&highlight=browser+tint
Next time I'm in a cell phone store I'll try it. I wonder if that will drain the battery faster though?
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its every amoled screen. they all have a tendency to be on the blue side.
I have a Galaxy S3. The screen is beautiful. I'll let you know when I see the blue saturation on my whites that you were talking about.
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I have checked multiple s3s from all the carriers, it's all of them. I am not imagining this, its a well documented problem. Just Google Galaxy s3 blue screen. If I had never seen the screen on my Amaze or the One X, I could probably have lived with it. But having seen what a proper display looks like, I can't bear to own an inferior product, even with its other advantages that I crave. For some people its not a big deal. I wish it wasn't a big deal to me, because other than the screen, the gs3is awesome!
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this made me LOL...i have a launch s3, build date 6/16, and its flawless. never seen blue whites or anything of the sort. when a phone sells 10 million units in what, 2 months? theres bound to be some defective devices. btw, hows HTC doing these days? i hear they're posting losses
and if you think the amaze/one x has a better screen than the s3, see your local optometrist guy, you may have cataracts, or even worse, you may be blind
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I have a Galaxy S3. The screen is beautiful. I'll let you know when I see the blue saturation on my whites that you were talking about.
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this made me LOL...i have a launch s3, build date 6/16, and its flawless. never seen blue whites or anything of the sort. when a phone sells 10 million units in what, 2 months? theres bound to be some defective devices. btw, hows HTC doing these days? i hear they're posting losses
and if you think the amaze/one x has a better screen than the s3, see your local optometrist guy, you may have cataracts, or even worse, you may be blind
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I know what blue tint he's talking about, it's one of the things I hated most on my S2 and the Nexus had the same issue, though not so bad due to the higher pixel density but it was still there and when the screen was dimmed it got purple-ish, but as I said, the S3 totally changed that, that's why I give Sammy props on the screen quality, even the gorilla glass is flawless, two weeks without a screen protector and not a single nick, the first things I did when I first received my S3 was do the black background test like on the s2, it passed flawlessly, did the grey background test, same thing, did the play store test (my own personal observation/test I use), aced that as well, then I did the blank/black picture test, same result, I dimmed the screen to the lowest, blacks were still black, clean and well saturated, crisp cand clean, I even did the HD video test from the youtube app, it walked all over it, even though the pixel density is down a few pixels compared to the nexus, I have to say the screen is the best I've seen in a long time, hands down.
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I know what blue tint he's talking about, it's one of the things I hated most on my S2 and the Nexus had the same issue, though not so bad due to the higher pixel density but it was still there and when the screen was dimmed it got purple-ish, but as I said, the S3 totally changed that, that's why I give Sammy props on the screen quality, even the gorilla glass is flawless, two weeks without a screen protector and not a single nick, the first things I did when I first received my S3 was do the black background test like on the s2, it passed flawlessly, did the grey background test, same thing, did the play store test (my own personal observation/test I use), aced that as well, then I did the blank/black picture test, same result, I dimmed the screen to the lowest, blacks were still black, clean and well saturated, crisp cand clean, I even did the HD video test from the youtube app, it walked all over it, even though the pixel density is down a few pixels compared to the nexus, I have to say the screen is the best I've seen in a long time, hands down.
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didnt have a nexus, but i did have an s2 for a few days and was disappointed i had to send it back because of the lines and blobs issue. this is my first REAL experience with a sammy phone and im not disappointed at all. your experience makes me feel a bit better about going with the amaze, but honestly, after almost 2 months with the s3, htc is going to have to REALLY impress me to get my money again. word is, sammy is working on the next GED nexus and im leaning towards it as my next phone.
either way, the screen on the s3 is untouchable imo. hell, even dedicated htc fanboy GG returned his one s to get the s3. to me thats saying something about how awesome the s3 is. if anyone is considering it, grab and you wont be disappointed :highfive:
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didnt have a nexus, but i did have an s2 for a few days and was disappointed i had to send it back because of the lines and blobs issue. this is my first REAL experience with a sammy phone and im not disappointed at all. your experience makes me feel a bit better about going with the amaze, but honestly, after almost 2 months with the s3, htc is going to have to REALLY impress me to get my money again. word is, sammy is working on the next GED nexus and im leaning towards it as my next phone.
either way, the screen on the s3 is untouchable imo. hell, even dedicated htc fanboy GG returned his one s to get the s3. to me thats saying something about how awesome the s3 is. if anyone is considering it, grab and you wont be disappointed :highfive:
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The display issue on the s2 was the reason I left it for the amaze, the nexus was nice but I wasn't too big a fan then, when I went back to it before the s3, well it suited my basic needs since I just lost interest in fancy hardware and features, lol only reason I got the s3 was cause my buddy didn't like it so I gave him my nexus for it since he wanted back the nexus and well I'm so far satisfied, none of the old s2 or nexus issues/slack offs and well I don't use my phone much for anything but the basics to really care after running all my test and checking the device out.
I just want JB now and it's complete, though well my phone is so damn smooth I don't think I'll notice much of a difference.
Ok, so me and another guy did some tests with the onex+ touch screen and found out why so many of us have issues with scrolling, we need as many people as possible to report the issue to HTC so we can get a hotfix, i dont think HTC realize at the moment, this is what to do, type in on th phone keypad *#*#3424#*#*. choose more, then choose the screen drawing option, dont draw, just touch it with your finger and see if there is a white dot, if there isnt then touch another part of the screen and then see if the previous touch shows up, if so you have the same software issue as many of us, its quite possible that its a major hardware flaw and cant be rectified in which case HTC will have to do mass repairs or recall, we are not going to stand for this at a price of £500, if you have this issue please report on HTC website, either email or chat or phone call, it needs to be done or we will have scrolling issues time and time again on each update.
What touch screen issue are you talking about? I've not heard anything about it from anyone on here. I think mine is fine. Or maybe I haven't noticed it yet.
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I Did what u suggested and indeed... Dots appeared in places where I didn't even touch the screen... And yes ive also noticed that when I want to Swype through f.ex. tapatalk forum i verry often just pres thread instead of swype through them...
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I Did what u suggested and indeed... Dots appeared in places where I didn't even touch the screen... And yes ive also noticed that when I want to Swype through f.ex. tapatalk forum i verry often just pres thread instead of swype through them...
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Soon as you get the chance report issue to HTC, more people the better.
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What touch screen issue are you talking about? I've not heard anything about it from anyone on here. I think mine is fine. Or maybe I haven't noticed it yet.
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Me and another guy discovered it, trying to sort out our scrolling problems, as of now theres an issue. 4 people have the exact same issue so far and i bet theres more.Test your screen and you will no for sure. Its causing random clicks and rubberbanding when scrolling, its not all the time and probably wouldnt notice it unless your a heavy user(always on your phone)
you have the same software issue as many of us, its quite possible that its a major hardware flaw
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Yup, I noticed it too. It's gone now, since I switched over to CM10. It makes no sense! (See what I did there? )
I think I'm that other guy OP was talking about. I have this scrolling issue where stuff on screen are being selected or clicked on accidentally instead of scrolling though them - but never had this problem before I updated to the most recent firmware, so I'm pretty sure this is a software thing.
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Yup, I noticed it too. It's gone now, since I switched over to CM10. It makes no sense! (See what I did there? )
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Oh, so switching to a custom rom solves it. Must learn about those stuff then.
Had very similar problem on the sensation. Ended up being a bad ground. It was easy to fix because you could take the cover off. Small piece of aluminum foil or solder fixed it like new. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17072026#post17072026
Also i assume you guys are talking about the international version..? Anyone with US ATT version experience this issue yet?
Rant: These forums need separating... Nothing is interchangeable between the two phones..
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Had very similar problem on the sensation. Ended up being a bad ground. It was easy to fix because you could take the cover off. Small piece of aluminum foil or solder fixed it like new. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17072026#post17072026
Also i assume you guys are talking about the international version..? Anyone with US ATT version experience this issue yet?
Rant: These forums need separating... Nothing is interchangeable between the two phones..
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It would be nice to know if the problem shows its ugly head on the lte/4g versions, its def got to be reported, if its hardware they will have to recall or fix them, and they cant turn away people who are rooted or have custom roms if it hardware. Hi sharpshooterr, yes op is you, i couldnt remember your name untill i seen it lol. Same test on the onex with android 4.1.1 with sense 4+ shows the screen is perfect, theres not even any lag when drawing either. Things like this shouldnt be getting through quality control on high end flagship devices, really shows HTC is going down hill fast.
As of now i think your testing might be a little flawed, you are using the wrong test. This is a line draw test, not a touch test. Its liable to act the same for everyone when just touching. How does it draw for you? Draws fine for me. the thing about touching then touching again and both dots show is not any sort of test IMO because again this is a LINE DRAW test. Maybe download some of the touch and multitouch tests from the market and try those.
Dont get me wrong, if there is something wrong then it needs to be addressed. I applaud you for trying to bring it public. You should look into some other tests though. HTC will not pay any attention to this issue if its brought to them like this. Get some more info, more tests, different tests.. The more the merrier
With the information i've read here it does sound software related though.. custom roms can fix it and firmware updates can break it. Doesn't sound hardware to me.
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As of now i think your testing might be a little flawed, you are using the wrong test. This is a line draw test, not a touch test. Its liable to act the same for everyone when just touching. How does it draw for you? Draws fine for me. the thing about touching then touching again and both dots show is not any sort of test IMO because again this is a LINE DRAW test. Maybe download some of the touch and multitouch tests from the market and try those.
Dont get me wrong, if there is something wrong then it needs to be addressed. I applaud you for trying to bring it public. You should look into some other tests though. HTC will not pay any attention to this issue if its brought to them like this. Get some more info, more tests, different tests.. The more the merrier
With the information i've read here it does sound software related though.. custom roms can fix it and firmware updates can break it. Doesn't sound hardware to me.
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Ok, ive tested the same drawing test screen on the onex, doesnt happen, soon as you touch the screen it registers under your finger, the screen has to register the first touch in that same spot your finger is on no matter what your doing, this is why its clicking in other places and rubber banding when your scrolling, its registering to late, and the line drawing lags like f---k. When your drawing your keeping your finger on it so its going to register eventually in the place you want it, its no good when your scrolling. Ive reproduced the same in gesture search, and again on the onex it doesnt do it in gesture search. Keep in mind there both running android 4.1.1 with 4+ sense, the only screen difference is the glass. If what your saying is true then the onex should be the same way so i know its not down to he test app along with the other tests ive done. Eitherway theres def a problem with scrolling.Your probably right about HTC not doing anything.EDIT: Ive decided to refund or sell it and carry on using the onex, it just seems faster, battery last longer.
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It would be nice to know if the problem shows its ugly head on the lte/4g versions, its def got to be reported, if its hardware they will have to recall or fix them, and they cant turn away people who are rooted or have custom roms if it hardware. Hi sharpshooterr, yes op is you, i couldnt remember your name untill i seen it lol. Same test on the onex with android 4.1.1 with sense 4+ shows the screen is perfect, theres not even any lag when drawing either. Things like this shouldnt be getting through quality control on high end flagship devices, really shows HTC is going down hill fast.
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The problem does indeed show its ugly head on att lte/4g phone also.
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The problem does indeed show its ugly head on att lte/4g phone also.
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You received an OTA from AT&T?
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You received an OTA from AT&T?
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No... But thinking on it I may be a bad test subject since my phone is now rooted, bl unlocked, and running an insertcoin rom. I've had the phone for about a week.
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No... But thinking on it I may be a bad test subject since my phone is now rooted, bl unlocked, and running an insertcoin rom. I've had the phone for about a week.
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With the exception of insert coin my phone is the same. I do not have this problem. Something is wrong with the rom, your kernel or your phone if you are having touch screen issues.
I am unlocked, running elegancia, rooted. I do not have TWRP flashed as there are issues charging when the battery dies. Even when i did I never had touch screen issues.
Multi touch is useless also, only 2 fingers register, on a brandnew high end device and it only supports 2 finger multitouch, oh yes, i have a touch screen app that actually registers a soon as you touch the screen, but its only one app, all others i tested do as i described so i really do not know what to think, its def not hardware, its down to the software, we should get 4.2.1 soon and hopefully it will be gone, as the op said, i dont think HTC will do anything, especially now i found an app that makes the touch work as it should. So, basically, dont worry to much, its not the hardware. Ive boxed my onex+ back up and im using the onex untill new OS, i might even flash stock nexus 4 OS on the onex.
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Multi touch is useless also, only 2 fingers register, on a brandnew high end device and it only supports 2 finger multitouch, oh yes, i have a touch screen app that actually registers a soon as you touch the screen, but its only one app, all others i tested do as i described so i really do not know what to think, its def not hardware, its down to the software, we should get 4.2.1 soon and hopefully it will be gone, as the op said, i dont think HTC will do anything, especially now i found an app that makes the touch work as it should. So, basically, dont worry to much, its not the hardware. Ive boxed my onex+ back up and im using the onex untill new OS, i might even flash stock nexus 4 OS on the onex.
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To get the device to register more than 2 fingers go into settings -Display, gestures & buttons - turn off under gestures - HTC gestures (uncheck) this will give you up to 10 multitouch points.
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To get the device to register more than 2 fingers go into settings -Display, gestures & buttons - turn off under gestures - HTC gestures (uncheck) this will give you up to 10 multitouch points.
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I think what he said is absurd, I didn't disable HTC gestures and enabled "show touches" under developer options and the screen picks up my 10 fingers.
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I think what he said is absurd, I didn't disable HTC gestures and enabled "show touches" under developer options and the screen picks up my 10 fingers.
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wow absurd huh? I can confirm that it is NOT absurd and works the way he posted it... even if you hit show touches in development, and leave htc gestures checked, none of the multitouch testing apps pick up more than 2 touches... even though you can see more, they dont register as touches in apps and games.. So... in order to have the full 10 point multitouch, no matter how absurd you think it is, HTC gestures must be unchecked.. Google it
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wow absurd huh? I can confirm that it is NOT absurd and works the way he posted it... even if you hit show touches in development, and leave htc gestures checked, none of the multitouch testing apps pick up more than 2 touches... even though you can see more, they dont register as touches in apps and games.. So... in order to have the full 10 point multitouch, no matter how absurd you think it is, HTC gestures must be unchecked.. Google it
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You misunderstand, I'm saying that it's absurd that boe323's saying the device can only support up to two touches and multi-touch is useless. Since you yourself said it will register up to 10 touches with the correct setting then it IS absurd that he claims it can only pick up two. Even the HTC gesture settings clearly says 3 finger-touches so that in itself made his statement of only two-touch support absurd.
It seems that you think I'm disagreeing with ihavoc, you should improve your reading comprehension.