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I used to work with WM 5 & 6 phones, had plenty of them and enjoyed them all until I discovered the HTC Magic. What a giant leap forward!! Especially when using Google Apps as we do. I am however a bit reluctant to root the magic as it doesn’t seem like a walk in the park. I really miss being able to backup SMS messages and all the other apps that only run on rooted devices.
So my question is if the HERO is a rooted device or not.
Does anybody have an answer to this question? I’m so tempted to preorder one
the answer to the question should be probably yes seing how people have the system dump files. so its just a matter of time
In the meantime, you can back up SMS and MMS with GBackup from Market - backs up to Gmail automatically - can also back up call log and pics...
Dayzz
Apologies for my ignorance but what does rooting the phone mean? I've just come from using a Windows mobile phone - which I have been using since the original SPV!
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
Eventually I'll guess the Hero will be rooted, but when and how... we'll just have to wait.
dipje said:
Ofcourse it's not 'rooted' when you unpack it from the box.
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Easy son... He asked, I provided.
barryallott said:
Easy son... He asked, I provided.
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wasn't ment to be offensive in any way ...
barryallott said:
Root access comes from Unix - Linux operating system speak (which is what Android runs on). Root basically means administrator privileges. So if you can run under root access then you have privileges to change/modify/do anything.
In the phone out of the box you do not have root to protect the phone from modifications that could brick it. People who do modifications under root access need to either know what they are doing, or follow a script from someone who knows what they are doing.
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But as in Unix /Linux you use an ordinary login for normal day to operations and su to to use root. You have to consciously change your privelidges which is safer!!
Simon
Lots of useful info on allsorts, including rooting and other hacks here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542452
Daisy xx
when u become root does it have like a new gui or its just the same layout?
the same layout but with a lot of customization options
dont think of ROOT as a thing....its a level of permissions. ROOT = GOD in unix/linux worlds (which android is part of).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
Another way to explain it might be....
User Level & Description
User = Normal, default user account (standard on computers and phones)
Power User = Elevated priveledges, able to do advanced tasks but not system wide changes (pc based more than phone)
Root = Top level access, can perform system wide changes and delete/modify what ever is desired
gaining root access allows you to do a lot of things that are restricted to a normal user.
root is the only user account with permission to modify the root directory of a unix/linux based system
mrtim123 said:
dont think of ROOT as a thing....its a level of permissions. ROOT = GOD in unix/linux worlds (which android is part of).
Another way to explain it might be....
User Level & Description
User = Normal, default user account (standard on computers and phones)
Power User = Elevated priveledges, able to do advanced tasks but not system wide changes (pc based more than phone)
Root = Top level access, can perform system wide changes and delete/modify what ever is desired
gaining root access allows you to do a lot of things that are restricted to a normal user.
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so are the customization options in root command line or GUI?
and isit risky?
ChrisChan92 said:
so are the customization options in root command line or GUI?
and isit risky?
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it can be both cmd or gui......in your phone once you have rooted it you will have a superuser permissions box popup asking for an application to be allowed to run in root mode.
yes, it is risky but the main benefit of android is if you stuff it you can flash it back to original spec again using the SEUS. Dont let the fact that its risky put you off, just make sure you have everything backed up before you make and changes
root your phone, install titanium backup and backup any apps that you want - then go play
(im offline now, but there are many other that can help - just read heaps and search is your friend)
mrtim123 said:
it can be both cmd or gui......in your phone once you have rooted it you will have a superuser permissions box popup asking for an application to be allowed to run in root mode.
yes, it is risky but the main benefit of android is if you stuff it you can flash it back to original spec again using the SEUS. Dont let the fact that its risky put you off, just make sure you have everything backed up before you make and changes
root your phone, install titanium backup and backup any apps that you want - then go play
(im offline now, but there are many other that can help - just read heaps and search is your friend)
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much thanks will go try
k just rooted but nothing seems different...how do you even know whether its rooted?
o okay found a superuser app but can someone tell me what i can do with it? im abit lost
I suspect that rooting might not be a good thing, for you, my friend..
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I suspect that rooting might not be a good thing, for you, my friend..
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+1! I suggest you take the time to do some reading up.
Hello XDA-Forum users,
I ask you a question: How does Android Root works ?
I mean, for example, How does it works in Nexus One ?
This would be an understanding question to know more about how I get root from my Phone (Nexus One, for example) from scratch, from sources.
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Rooting basics:
http://lifehacker.com/5342237/five-great-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone
For details on how to do it on your device, Google or use the forum search. Lots of rooting information that is device dependent out there.
It basically gives your phone permission to do almost anything. It is similar to giving a user in Windows Administrator rights. It is called super user. You can do many things such as removing unwanted apps and overclocking.
This is not what I mean, I asks for an explaining in which the question is "How the root is possible? What active the root ?" Probably a kernel exploit, or stuff like that, to understand the underground passage to take it, from an hack view.
So, How works a root utility (such SuperOneClick) to set gid to 0 ?
Valid question, I am also interested in learning this.
In other words, if I were to perform the rooting manually, where can I find such info?
And some of the question is why su must be in some diredctories, and can't be run from /data/local/tmp for example?
Someone can enlighten us?
diego.stamigni said:
Someone can enlighten us?
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The general approach is taking advantage of bugs in the android OS
The process works something like this
User crafts some special data that contains a "payload" (the script/executable that we want to run)
User runs a system process that has root privileges and gets it to open the special data
The bug causes the system process to get confused by the data, and ends up running the embedded script
The embedded script runs with the same privileges as the system process, and thus can stuff that normal users aren't allowed to do (e.g. installs the SU app)
Commonly, things such as buffer overflows are used
So after gaining root access, which apps can run as root?
Or the user becomes root(as in desktop), and can run all types of apps?
Can root app(run as root) access everything?? Or app permission still applies?
Is it that system exploit is always used to run root apps?
can someone explain in technical details? not how to root.
are rooting programs open source??
What is the root procedure
Bayint Naung said:
So after gaining root access, which apps can run as root?
Or the user becomes root(as in desktop), and can run all types of apps?
Can root app(run as root) access everything?? Or app permission still applies?
Is it that system exploit is always used to run root apps?
can someone explain in technical details? not how to root.
are rooting programs open source??
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Hi guys!
I have the same question and after searching and asking find this!
it is good!!
hope it works!
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...hat-are-the-pre-requisites-for-it-to-work-wha
also look at the suggestedpages at the right of this page!
Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM. I would also prefer to not change my bootloader.
What exactly is rooting? Is it replacing the whole system image with an image that gives the user root access? Or is it just like enabling sudo for the user? Or is a smaller part replaced? (I am somewhat familiar with electronics, computers and Linux, but I find the Android hacking a bit confusing )
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access? Will the access be lost when upgrading?
c3c0l0n said:
Hi, I would like to have root access to my phone, but not necessarily with a custom ROM.
DEV section rooting post /
What exactly is rooting?
root is the user account in Linux with all privileges. The root user can edit anything on the system. For safety reasons, users do not have all those privileges. When you root your phone, you will gain write access to areas of the phone you couldn't previously access and are allowed to run more commands in the terminal. Because applications do not get a lot of privileges, some of them require you to root the device in order for them to function properly (or fully).
Also, is it possible to run stock Android, only with root access?
Yes and Yes lost root on upgrade usually .
jje
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Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
c3c0l0n said:
Thank you. How is the rooting performed? Is only an ACL modified, or is a more fundamental part of the system changed (like the kernel, bootloader etc)?
I know that a custom ROM might be unstable/experimental, but does the same apply for rooting, or is the modification so small that one could expect the exact same stability as in the stock ROM?
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All your questions are explained in detail in the Development section
Sorry, I did not find it. However, I read this without getting smarter. This video suggests that rooting is a process that does something with your phone without replacing everything. An exact list of what the rooting tools do would be perfect
Not all tools do the same thing. To get a specific answer, you will have to ask the person that came up with whatever rooting tool you are referring to. Some phones take more to root than others.
I have a question, and if possible the answer should be as wide as possible to work on as many systems as possible. While I am not fully conversed in Android functions, syntax, and interfaces, I have been programing various computers since the mid 80's and have applied rooting/jailbreaking methods to several systems (if it functions like a computer, I want my Admin rights, much thanks to each and all authors of these). I know that someone somewhere out there may have asked and already found a solution to this very annoying problem.
Thanks to the Google's decision to increase security in the Android OSes (KitKat and higher) by removing write access to the SD Card (as I call it a very 'bonehead' and brute force decision), most of the older apps do not work properly anymore with the user added SD Cards and most are not being updated with some form of support (create a folder on SD Card). The solution for most persons is to root the system then either run an app that corrects the problem or install a new LRAM image (Lockable RAM: 'unlock' the RAM and overwrite its data with a new image then re-lock it. I don't like the term 'ROM' for this as it has been incorrectly used since the late 80's). I have found at least 2 file managers that say they have a (in-app) solution, but these solutions don't extend to all of your other apps (ie "Root Explorer" or "B1" solution doesn't help your File server/uTorrent/Photo Gallery app).
But what of the owners that for one reason or another can't root their system (unable to root, not authorized or allowed to root, etc.) but want/need to have write access to the user added cards (mainly because their internal storage is just too small)? Example, in my case my personal phone has several apps that require it to remain in an unrooted state for certain work related programs (security issues).
So here is my question:
Is it possible, on an unrooted and stock LRAM android device, using ADB to PULL the "platform.xml" file, add the line '<group gid=”media_rw” />' to it, then PUSH the edited file back to the android device?
I realize this may require entering (various name versions) Recovery or Update mode which is specific to each device (I think Samsung calls their ODIN). But I think the ADB commands and computer side instructions should be the same. So if it is possible, please list all ADB instructions (I know the text editor used will depend on the PC/MAC OS used).
Thank you one and all that give any advice or assistance.
Well it looks like there have been a lot of lookers since I first posted this but still no reply by anyone that knows Android OS inside and out. Most of you are probably thinking "tl:dr" to all of it.
I know there has to be a way to update/upgrade system files that doesn't require rooting or a way to find the manufacturer's or cellular vender's access path or password.