[Q] Can't Root My EVO 4G LTE No Matter What I Do - Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE

I have been trying to root my HTC EVO 4G LTE for days now without any luck. I have an unlocked bootloader. That was pretty easy. I originally tried the "Kingo Android Root" which unlocked the bootloader and claimed that it had rooted my phone. However, I did not have superuser privileges. I re-ran the "Kingo Anroid Root" several times. Each time it said I was rooted, yet every time I checked I was not. So, I came to the conclusion that the EVO 4G LTE was incompatible with the "Kingo" method.
So, I moved on to methods more specific to the EVO 4G LTE. I tried WinDroid, which flashed TWRP recovery and I then booted to that. However, when I installed superuser.zip, it said successful even though rebooting my phone once again left me without superuser privileges. I retried flashing superuser.zip multiple times, yet each time it failed to give me superuser access. It was around this time I noticed that while my bootloader reads "Tampered" and "Unlocked", I still have S-ON rather than S-OFF. Could this be preventing superuser.zip from giving me superuser access? I tried rumrunner to get S-OFF but that failed halfway through. Yes, I have installed both HTC and ADB drivers.
Honestly, this has just been a nightmare. I thought it would be a simple and relatively painless process, but it has become a multiple day affair that is consuming way too much of my time. I am about to either just pay someone to do this for me or give up entirely. So, any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hit up the link below and download the latest version of SuperSU, then flash in recovery. As far as the tampered warning in the bootloader, that's normal when you've unlocked the bootloader. As far as S-off goes, post your Hboot and radio (firmware) version, as that will determine which method you need to use to gain S-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Also make sure that you have your superuser rights set to "ask" in the SuperSU app.

Well, I downloaded the new SuperSU.zip you posted and I rebooted to recovery. I installed it and TWRP said the install was successful. I then chose to reboot system. By the way, I don't think I mentioned this in my OP, but after the "Success Screen" and choosing to reboot I am prompted with a screen that says "No OS installed! Are you sure you want to reboot?" to which I say yes and then continue to another screen that asks if I want to "Install SuperSU. This will root your device." I swipe yes to tell it to install SuperSU even though I just installed it. Then, it kind of just sits there until rebooting normally. Just letting you know in case this changes anything. Should I try it again and choose to not install the second SuperSU? Could it be overwriting the updated one I flashed a few seconds prior?
Anyways, as you can probably guess by the nature of my disorganized post's first paragraph, the updated SuperSU did not root the phone as there is still no sign of the SuperSU app, nor any indication that I am rooted such as being able to delete the annoying bloatware installed. Any other suggestions?
Oh, and for the information you need for the S-ON problem:
HBOOT-2.09.0000
RADIO-1.13.11.0830
Magnum_Enforcer said:
Also make sure that you have your superuser rights set to "ask" in the SuperSU app.
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Okay, but I don't currently see the SuperSU app. Isn't that supposed to come from the root or do you have to download that off the play store? I assume this post was for if updated SuperSU zip file worked.

Install the SuperSU app from the Play store, then check the permissions I previously mentioned. Also, the Rumrunner method should work fine but you can also try the Firewater method. Try Rumrunner a few times first, though.

Installing the SuperSU app off the play store and then running it only gives me a prompt that says, "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
Any ideas on how to fix this?

Install the SuperSU zip in recovery again. Then reboot.

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Install the SuperSU zip in recovery again. Then reboot.
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Okay, I tried it again, but it isn't installing. I flash the UPDATE-SuperSU-2.02.zip file and then reboot. Then I go to the SuperSU app that I got off the Play store and it still brings up the same prompt followed by the app closing. Any ideas why the SuperSU.zip won't flash in TWRP?

M3TLGMR said:
Okay, I tried it again, but it isn't installing. I flash the UPDATE-SuperSU-2.02.zip file and then reboot. Then I go to the SuperSU app that I got off the Play store and it still brings up the same prompt followed by the app closing. Any ideas why the SuperSU.zip won't flash in TWRP?
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Try an older version like 1.94.

Okay, I tried the 1.94 version. Same result as all the other versions of SuperSU I have tried.
I did notice something odd that somehow slipped past me. I copied the zip file to my root directory on my PC, yet when I launch into TWRP I find the file in the "/data" directory. Could this be the problem? That the zip files aren't in the root when in TWRP? Anyway, can I move the files up a level while in recovery? Because the files are in the root directory of my phone when I copy them on my PC. They aren't in the "data" folder...

Not sure what to tell you at this point. The location of the zip file shouldn't matter, though. Putting it on the root of your internal or external storage makes it easier to flash when it comes time to install, but it can be flashed even if it's in a folder somewhere. I'd suggest making sure that you have the latest version of TWRP on your phone (2.7.1.0) and starting over with a clean install of a rooted ROM, like MeanBean, since it is fairly easy to install while still being S-on. Link can be found below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2048229

I was having a similar issue to this a week ago. What is TWRP showing when you flash the file?

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[Q] Can't root after installing Samsung firmware

After I installed the firmware update, via Odin, i can't seem to re-root my phone. I re-installed the update, renamed the zip, flashed it and no smoke. I'm kind of new with all of this so what do i do to access root at this point?
Also, I re-downloaded the superuser app from the market and it stated that there was a new version available. The app states" an error occurred and su was not updated. A zip(su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip) has been placed on your sdcard, please reboot into recovery mode and flash it to update your su binary. " I tried to flash this recieved an error message saying that the zip was "(bad)". What do I do?
did not have a problem with ryans one touch lag fix that also takes care of root
I'm having the same problem. Also new to this so I'm sure it's going to be something simple. But it's dricing me crazy. I'm sooo close. Anyone with advice it would be much appreciated.
sorry I forgot to say that I have the Epic 4g
aaconteh said:
After I installed the firmware update, via Odin, i can't seem to re-root my phone. I re-installed the update, renamed the zip, flashed it and no smoke. I'm kind of new with all of this so what do i do to access root at this point?
Also, I re-downloaded the superuser app from the market and it stated that there was a new version available. The app states" an error occurred and su was not updated. A zip(su-2.3.1-bin-signed.zip) has been placed on your sdcard, please reboot into recovery mode and flash it to update your su binary. " I tried to flash this recieved an error message saying that the zip was "(bad)". What do I do?
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The Superuser app from the market isn't going to give you superuser privileges without the phone being rooted. That's why you are rooting the phone in the first place.
As I've made a habit of experimenting with every ROM known to man I've gotten this down to a routine when it comes to flashing and re-rooting. And a big part of my routine is using TGA_Gunnman's handy One Click ROOT Windows application (also a mac version available in the same thread)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739300
Just use it and follow the instruction. Biggest thing is to make sure the phone has USB Debugging enabled and that the internal and external SD's are NOT MOUNTED. Just click the ROOT ME button, look in the shell window to see that the update.zip has been pushed successfully, use the vol rocker keys to select REINSTALL PACKAGES, and reboot.
It's never failed for me so far, and I've re-rooted dozens of times now.
Best of luck!
DemDonkies said:
sorry I forgot to say that I have the Epic 4g
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The root method for the Epic4g is a tad different...and located in another forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388

Root permission problems

I already posted about this...
I still can't get root perms to work correctly. Super SU is installed. binary update fails even though superuser claims to have an updated binary named 098:SuperSU (i assume this means it is pointing to supersu. super su has superuser disabled, and whenever something asks for permissions the phone reboots.
I finally got root to work, but now some apps when requesting root re-boots my phone.
it's pissing me off lmao, I can't stand it I've looked everywhere for answers and no one has the same problem. i can install any mod or kernel but superSU is messed up lol just doesn't make sense.
theguitarhero94 said:
I already posted about this...
I still can't get root perms to work correctly. Super SU is installed. binary update fails even though superuser claims to have an updated binary named 098:SuperSU (i assume this means it is pointing to supersu. super su has superuser disabled, and whenever something asks for permissions the phone reboots.
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When I was rooting my phone (both my original and my replacement), I flashed SuperSU and did a root check through Root Checker. And on both of the phones, it didn't work out, so i Opened up SuperSU and i got the same message as you (Need to Update, and Failed to Update).
On my first phone, i just flashed Superuser (which works fine for me, no problems yet) and i didn't use/got rid of SuperSU.
On my replacement phone (Current), i Flashed SuperSU and got the same error, so i goggled a little bit and found this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31887507&postcount=1). I didn't try it out, because i just ended up flashing Superuser again and it has worked every since.
I was having the same thing yesterday. Then I re-flashed and when I ran SuperSU and tried to update binaries it immediately rebooted. But then programs could get root again. Now every time I go into SuperSU it wants to update the binary and if I say yes it reboots. I downloaded Superuser from the Market and ran the update su binary from there, it was successful but same results when I go back into SuperSU. I guess as long as programs can keep root permissions it's fine. Anyone else seeing this?
In regard to all fo the problems below:
theguitarhero94 said:
I already posted about this...
I still can't get root perms to work correctly. Super SU is installed. binary update fails even though superuser claims to have an updated binary named 098:SuperSU (i assume this means it is pointing to supersu. super su has superuser disabled, and whenever something asks for permissions the phone reboots.
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wowens0822 said:
I finally got root to work, but now some apps when requesting root re-boots my phone.
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theguitarhero94 said:
it's pissing me off lmao, I can't stand it I've looked everywhere for answers and no one has the same problem. i can install any mod or kernel but superSU is messed up lol just doesn't make sense.
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BigRed35m said:
When I was rooting my phone (both my original and my replacement), I flashed SuperSU and did a root check through Root Checker. And on both of the phones, it didn't work out, so i Opened up SuperSU and i got the same message as you (Need to Update, and Failed to Update).
On my first phone, i just flashed Superuser (which works fine for me, no problems yet) and i didn't use/got rid of SuperSU.
On my replacement phone (Current), i Flashed SuperSU and got the same error, so i goggled a little bit and found this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31887507&postcount=1). I didn't try it out, because i just ended up flashing Superuser again and it has worked every since.
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eddiecanuck said:
I was having the same thing yesterday. Then I re-flashed and when I ran SuperSU and tried to update binaries it immediately rebooted. But then programs could get root again. Now every time I go into SuperSU it wants to update the binary and if I say yes it reboots. I downloaded Superuser from the Market and ran the update su binary from there, it was successful but same results when I go back into SuperSU. I guess as long as programs can keep root permissions it's fine. Anyone else seeing this?
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Listen up guys I'm assuming most of you are bone stock and freshly unlocked the problem is the SuperSU APP it is stated in the OP for the unlock method and most of the root threads around here that currently the binaries we have for supersu that is flashed in recovery during the root process are not compatible with the SuperSU APP from the market. Downloading "superuser" from the market will fix all of your problems.
download this > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su&feature=nav_result#?t=W10.
Until further notice this will be necessary. There are some people that have hacked in different binaries for their updates/roms just make sure you read OP's first before tryingto switch back to the SuperSU app.
Thanks for that info. I did install Superuser from the market. But when the device was in a state where programs were not getting root access, I couldn't do anything with it (update binaries, manage app permissions, etc). Since SuperSU keeps rebooting me, I can't change any settings like having Superuser manage program access. Then I re-flashed the supersu zip in recovery and apps had root permissions, then I was able to run Superuser to update the binary (maybe that was a mistake?). But programs were still asking SuperSU for rights, and since I can't get into SuperSU as it is still rebooting I'm kind of in this loop. It's not a huge deal at the moment as I don't really have anything else I need it for. So I guess I'll just wait until the supersu that is flashed is compatible with the SuperSU app.
eddiecanuck said:
Thanks for that info. I did install Superuser from the market. But when the device was in a state where programs were not getting root access, I couldn't do anything with it (update binaries, manage app permissions, etc). Since SuperSU keeps rebooting me, I can't change any settings like having Superuser manage program access. Then I re-flashed the supersu zip in recovery and apps had root permissions, then I was able to run Superuser to update the binary (maybe that was a mistake?). But programs were still asking SuperSU for rights, and since I can't get into SuperSU as it is still rebooting I'm kind of in this loop. It's not a huge deal at the moment as I don't really have anything else I need it for. So I guess I'll just wait until the supersu that is flashed is compatible with the SuperSU app.
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Did you make a NAND b4 supersu app installed? Revert if so if not i recommend UKB in the development sections its a solid rom right now with lots of options. I'd say fix it now so it doesnt bite you later. Also you could try freezing in tibu then using tibu to uninstall SuperSU that is.
I did an uninstall updates for SuperSU to get it back to what was flashed, and I can uninstall Superuser. Haven't done a NAND yet but will. Looking at UKB, was going to stay stock for a while but after looking at that I probably won't.
Most likely flash it tonight, has some nice features. Thanks again for the input.

[Q] SuperSU not allowing binary update

I have had this phone (HTC 4G LTE) rooted previously but reverted it back with RUU. I decided that after using Jelly Bean for a bit I would re root this phone. Everything seems to be working great, when apps need superuser access I can give it. The problem is when I open the SuperSU application a message window pops up saying "The SU Binary needs to be updated", I click continue and the phone just resets. So I cant go in and deny access or grant, unless asked by a program..
So far I have tried going into recovery and clearing the cache and dalvik cache to no avail. I read online to install superuser and grant supersu access, which makes no sense to me but I tried it. I also tried downloading a new zip of it and installing it again in recovery.
I have read in a couple places that some other have had this problem but nobody came back with a solution..
I am by no means an expert just a person that likes to play with their toys in their spare time. Any help would be appreciated.
Oh not sure if this helps;
Software version: 3.15.651.16
Android version: 4.1.1
HTC Sence version: 4+
HBoot: 2.09
Anum86 said:
I have had this phone (HTC 4G LTE) rooted previously but reverted it back with RUU. I decided that after using Jelly Bean for a bit I would re root this phone. Everything seems to be working great, when apps need superuser access I can give it. The problem is when I open the SuperSU application a message window pops up saying "The SU Binary needs to be updated", I click continue and the phone just resets. So I cant go in and deny access or grant, unless asked by a program..
So far I have tried going into recovery and clearing the cache and dalvik cache to no avail. I read online to install superuser and grant supersu access, which makes no sense to me but I tried it. I also tried downloading a new zip of it and installing it again in recovery.
I have read in a couple places that some other have had this problem but nobody came back with a solution..
I am by no means an expert just a person that likes to play with their toys in their spare time. Any help would be appreciated.
Oh not sure if this helps;
Software version: 3.15.651.16
Android version: 4.1.1
HTC Sence version: 4+
HBoot: 2.09
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Please go to my thread here and read my update on 12/20/12 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
Hboot 2.09 now DENIES access to anything that attempts to write to the /system partition. However you CAN flash an alternative version of the binary. It was coded by chainsDD and it WILL allow you to get into the settings menu and deny access if you wish or turn off pop up warning messages. It is the latest version of superuser 3.2. It is flashable as a zip so you can use TWRP to install it. No need to uninstall supersu as this will replace it when you flash it.
rawintellect said:
Please go to my thread here and read my update on 12/20/12 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038123
Hboot 2.09 now DENIES access to anything that attempts to write to the /system partition. However you CAN flash an alternative version of the binary. It was coded by chainsDD and it WILL allow you to get into the settings menu and deny access if you wish or turn off pop up warning messages. It is the latest version of superuser 3.2. It is flashable as a zip so you can use TWRP to install it. No need to uninstall supersu as this will replace it when you flash it.
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Thank you, it appears to have worked for the most part. SuperSU is still there though which is causing a slight conflict between the two. Ill post in your thread to keep that discussion going about this.
Hmm it always replaces supersu for me when i flash superuser. Ok to manually uninstall supersu delete the supersu.apk found in /system/apps and delete the binary named su located in /system/xbin then IMMEDIATELY reflash superuser 3.2 zip
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[Q] Failed Root?

I'm usually good at searching for answers for my problems, but I couldn't find the answer to my problems. I'll be as specific and detailed as I can.
I got my HTC Rezound and was running Android 4.0.3 out of the box. Then I decided to root my phone mainly to try to remove HTC sense and bloatware.
*First time at rooting*
From my understanding, I first had to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then install a custom rom (if I choose to, which I wanted to do).
So I successfully unlocked the bootloader through the HTCdev website. (I'll admit I was having trouble initially on my Windows 8.1 desktop, but I switched to my Windows 7 laptop and it worked perfectly)
Then I went on ahead to flash a custom recovery (Amon Ra Recovery).
After that, I managed to go into Recovery from the Bootloader to install Superuser. Then I updated it to the latest version via Google Play.
So far, I was having little to no issues up to this point.
But here's where I start getting into trouble...
Before I install a custom rom I wanted to test out the phone with it's new unlocked features. So I decided to download Titanium Backup (which downloaded and installed successfully) and it failed to find root access. So I decided to do some research and found out that rebooting it a few time helped some people out. Not for me.... Hard rebooted as well, but no dice. Looking at my Superuser (v 3.1.3), I noticed that the binaries were out of date (v3.0.3, and the latest is 3.1.1)
Thinking that this was the issue I tried to update it.
This is what the Binary Updater read:
Downloading manifest... okay!
Parsing manifest... okay!
Latest version = 3.1.1
Checking installed version = 3.0.3
Unpacking sutools... okay!
Checking current install path... /system/bin/su
Downloading new binary... okay!
Gaining root access... fail!
Then I decided to continue reboot 3-5 times, still nothing changes.
I downloaded a root checker app, which also told me that my phone is not rooted. I've also tried to reset my phone to factory settings through Recovery, but nothing changed.
I'm not sure if it's the Amon Ra Recovery or what. All I know is that my phone is telling me that it's not rooted, when I successfully did all the steps to do it. If there is another thread that I may have missed that solves this issue, please help me out.
I'm pretty sure I may just need to update the binary files on Superuser, but I can't do that through the Binary updater on my phone due to it's failing to gain root access. I just can't find the proper Binary files online. I'm also not too sure on how to update the binary files either.
Help?
:angel::crying:
androooleee said:
I'm usually good at searching for answers for my problems, but I couldn't find the answer to my problems. I'll be as specific and detailed as I can.
I got my HTC Rezound and was running Android 4.0.3 out of the box. Then I decided to root my phone mainly to try to remove HTC sense and bloatware.
*First time at rooting*
From my understanding, I first had to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, then install a custom rom (if I choose to, which I wanted to do).
So I successfully unlocked the bootloader through the HTCdev website. (I'll admit I was having trouble initially on my Windows 8.1 desktop, but I switched to my Windows 7 laptop and it worked perfectly)
Then I went on ahead to flash a custom recovery (Amon Ra Recovery).
After that, I managed to go into Recovery from the Bootloader to install Superuser. Then I updated it to the latest version via Google Play.
So far, I was having little to no issues up to this point.
But here's where I start getting into trouble...
Before I install a custom rom I wanted to test out the phone with it's new unlocked features. So I decided to download Titanium Backup (which downloaded and installed successfully) and it failed to find root access. So I decided to do some research and found out that rebooting it a few time helped some people out. Not for me.... Hard rebooted as well, but no dice. Looking at my Superuser (v 3.1.3), I noticed that the binaries were out of date (v3.0.3, and the latest is 3.1.1)
Thinking that this was the issue I tried to update it.
This is what the Binary Updater read:
Downloading manifest... okay!
Parsing manifest... okay!
Latest version = 3.1.1
Checking installed version = 3.0.3
Unpacking sutools... okay!
Checking current install path... /system/bin/su
Downloading new binary... okay!
Gaining root access... fail!
Then I decided to continue reboot 3-5 times, still nothing changes.
I downloaded a root checker app, which also told me that my phone is not rooted. I've also tried to reset my phone to factory settings through Recovery, but nothing changed.
I'm not sure if it's the Amon Ra Recovery or what. All I know is that my phone is telling me that it's not rooted, when I successfully did all the steps to do it. If there is another thread that I may have missed that solves this issue, please help me out.
I'm pretty sure I may just need to update the binary files on Superuser, but I can't do that through the Binary updater on my phone due to it's failing to gain root access. I just can't find the proper Binary files online. I'm also not too sure on how to update the binary files either.
Help?
:angel::crying:
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1) I'd recommend TWRP or CWM for your recovery, both can be found in the Original Development section.
2) Try flashing this via recovery for root on an ICS rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23897942&postcount=371
i think rooting method u use is not working.
have u try another rooting method?
like z4root or superOneClick shortfuse?

[Q] Did Perm Root - Only got Temp Root?

Hey guys.
Used the HTC All in one toolkit and rooted, installed TWRP, and a new rom on my device. I want to S-off but since my phone is brand new it doesnt seem to work. (This will never work on your phone stop trying - error with firewater) I used the Perm Root method on the All-in-one toolkit but everytime i reboot my device i lose root and need to wait for it to come back up (2-3 Min after bootup). This means its not permanent correct? Maybe this is why firewater is not working?
Another really weird thing, when i reboot with adb reboot, the phone takes literally like 10-15 minutes to power on. What is that about?
TWRP seems as it is permanent, and on the bootloader it says tampered and unlocked with s-on.
Im kinda confused here, I came from a nexus 4 so im not used to things not working.
SOOOOOOO..
(Q) Can someone give me an overview of what is going on so i can go in the right direction? should i unroot to stock and try again? Why would it give me a TEMP root if i used the permanent root method of flashing SuperSU in recovery? If i switch roms, is the perm root method removed?
Thanks in advance guys!
If you flashed a custom ROM, they are already rooted. So if you also flashed SuperSU in addition, you might have some conflict, such as a built-in SU conflicting with the SuperSU you flashed.
I would re-flash the ROM (you can probably "dirty" flash and keep user data, just wipe cache and Dalvik), don't flash any separate SuperSU or SU, and see if the problem persists.
The long boot problem is a known issue if you flashed a 2.xx based ROM (Android 4.4.3) but your phone is still on older firmware (hboot, radio, etc.). You might also experience some other significant bugs like broken WiFi or Bluetooth.
Firewater s-off has been patched for some time now, but Sunshine S-off should work (but costs $25).
You will need s-off to manually update firmware. But the alternative is to return to stock ROM and recovery, accept your latest OTA, which will install the new firmware.
redpoint73 said:
If you flashed a custom ROM, they are already rooted. So if you also flashed SuperSU in addition, you might have some conflict, such as a built-in SU conflicting with the SuperSU you flashed.
I would re-flash the ROM (you can probably "dirty" flash and keep user data, just wipe cache and Dalvik), don't flash any separate SuperSU or SU, and see if the problem persists.
The long boot problem is a known issue if you flashed a 2.xx based ROM (Android 4.4.3) but your phone is still on older firmware (hboot, radio, etc.). You might also experience some other significant bugs like broken WiFi or Bluetooth.
Firewater s-off has been patched for some time now, but Sunshine S-off should work (but costs $25).
You will need s-off to manually update firmware. But the alternative is to return to stock ROM and recovery, accept your latest OTA, which will install the new firmware.
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Thanks for the speedy response.
I flashed the insertcoin rom. It was supposed to root with that (Chose SuperSU on aroma install) but no SuperSU was installed. It seemed like insert coin was a little buggy. So i installed the SuperSU with perm root option on all-in-one toolkit. And SuperSU was giving me errors of not being supported and need to update through recovery, it wasnt updating. Wiped, Reflashed insertcoin, this time SuperSU installed on the device, tried s-off with firewater and didnt work. Then i did a full wipe again.
This time I flashed M8Rx.v2 and seems like a solid running rom - Minus the fact that Wifi is broken. (It said use a specific kernel if on 1.58 firmware, but my phone came with 2.xx, maybe it went down to 1.58 with insertcoin) Came with SuperSU however now it doesn't have permanent root (I have not done perm root on all-in-one after wiping and flashing M8Rx.v2).
I have read that perm root may not work unless s-off. Is this true?
Also - Worth noting that when i was stock, there was no OTA available. i was on build 2.xx and now with M8rx.v2 im on build 1.58.502.1.
H0rn3t920 said:
I have read that perm root may not work unless s-off. Is this true?
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No, that is completely false.
How are you determining root or no root?
For Insertcoin, you won't see SuperSU or SU in the app drawer. Its in the Settings>InsertCoin. If not having SuperSU in the app drawer is solely what led you to believe you weren't rooted, I think you may have just been confused about it and were rooted all along.
I don't know about M8Rx, as I've never used it.
redpoint73 said:
No, that is completely false.
How are you determining root or no root?
For Insertcoin, you won't see SuperSU or SU in the app drawer. Its in the Settings>InsertCoin. If not having SuperSU in the app drawer is solely what led you to believe you weren't rooted, I think you may have just been confused about it and were rooted all along.
I don't know about M8Rx, as I've never used it.
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That was part of it, the other part was when using firewater, i would get no superuser prompts. That is a good piece of info though, thanks!
So how would i go about doing a permanent root and s-off? should i go back to stock and use the 25$ method or should i keep my rom and custom recovery and then do it? Mainly im curious about the permanent root as i have done what i should have for a permanent root and its not permanent. So I dont really understand what to do here.
H0rn3t920 said:
That was part of it, the other part was when using firewater, i would get no superuser prompts. That is a good piece of info though, thanks!
So how would i go about doing a permanent root and s-off? should i go back to stock and use the 25$ method or should i keep my rom and custom recovery and then do it?
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I think you are perm rooted already. Not getting SU prompt in firewater is likely a different issue.
Make sure debugging is activated. Also, firewater doesn't work with some custom ROMs, not sure about InsertCoin. But you might try a different ROM.
Firewater was patched some time ago, and doesn't work for most M8's at this point. As your device was updated to the 2.xx software, firewater likely won't work. But you should at least get to the "whelp" error message from firewater before concluding that it won't work on your device.
redpoint73 said:
I think you are perm rooted already. Not getting SU prompt in firewater is likely a different issue.
Make sure debugging is activated. Also, firewater doesn't work with some custom ROMs, not sure about InsertCoin. But you might try a different ROM.
Firewater was patched some time ago, and doesn't work for most M8's at this point. As your device was updated to the 2.xx software, firewater likely won't work. But you should at least get to the "whelp" error message from firewater before concluding that it won't work on your device.
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I did get the whelp message...
My confusion here is if i am perm rooted, why do i lose root on a reboot? All my xposed modules stop working, says version 58 has been installed but only found version 47. I hit install/update, superuser permissions granted and it immedietely says version 58 is found. I need to then soft reboot in order for all modules to activate.
Now its saying SuperSU is having issues updating the binaries. I flash the binaries in TWRP and then after the phone boots, it says the same thing again, to update binaries. I want to get into SuperSU to unroot and then flash SuperSU again in TWRP to see if that works, but i can not get around the update binaries screen. If i hit cancel, app closes.
EDIT: So i updated binaries, and i didnt get the update notification anymore. Got into the app, unrooted, then reinstalled supersu from TWRP, and then installed SuperSU from app store. Asked to update binaries, did it. Enabled SU at boot in SuperSU Settings. Still exactly the same. Even though xposed is granted superuser permissions, i need to go into the app and tinker with it before its auto granted and version 58 of xposed is seen.
I also tried in SuperSU Settings to write to system but it doesnt seem to work.
What am i missing here!?
Did you try to flash the ROM again, and this time not do anything additional to root (aside from the AROMA selection of SU/SuperSU), like I suggested back in Post #2?
I think something with the toolkit or flashing SU otherwise is messing with the built-in root.
I'm on InsertCoin, and have never had any issues with root.
redpoint73 said:
Did you try to flash the ROM again, and this time not do anything additional to root (aside from the AROMA selection of SU/SuperSU), like I suggested back in Post #2?
I think something with the toolkit or flashing SU otherwise is messing with the built-in root.
I'm on InsertCoin, and have never had any issues with root.
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Thats how i did it to begin with on all my roms that i flashed. Only went and flashed the SuperSU after I realized that the rom itself didnt give a permanent root.
So I wiped the phone fully like 4-5 times before flashing M8Rx.v2 and everything is working super smooth and beautiful now. Thank you to redpoint73 and his help!
H0rn3t920 said:
Thats how i did it to begin with on all my roms that i flashed. Only went and flashed the SuperSU after I realized that the rom itself didnt give a permanent root.
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Odd, all I can think is that the AROMA option to select SU/SuperSU is a little buggy.
Looks like persistence (or at least vigorous wiping) was the key!

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