This module permanently disables prediction/autocomplete/completion bar within SwiftKey keyboard.
Future versions/updates of SwiftKey might break this mod. Tested working agains versions 5.0.1.87, 5.0.2.4, 5.0.3.26, and 5.0.4.93. EDIT: No longer true as of v0.2 which should be futureproof.
Disable SwiftKey Prediction is available from Xposed Module Repository (source).
It also disables flow. Is that suppose to happen?
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It also disables flow. Is that suppose to happen?
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It is because whole prediction is disabled and flow depends on it. Solution for using flow would be only hiding the bar (while prediction/completion would still work) but I have no real intention for this as I don't use it and to get rid of all prediction effects, disabling it fully is still required. Maybe Suggestions Toggle would work better for you (but I don't use flow so I don't know...).
@moneytoo thanks for the mod. Now its perfect.
Anyway to make long press space to toggle keyboards like Google stock keyboard?
I'm just curious but why did you want to create this mod? Prediction is the main attraction of SwiftKey. I mean, otherwise I would use any other keyboard. Just wondering and no offense meant.
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I'm just curious but why did you want to create this mod? Prediction is the main attraction of SwiftKey. I mean, otherwise I would use any other keyboard. Just wondering and no offense meant.
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I want a nice looking black/dark keyboard (the stock one on my S5 is light). My primary language is Czech which (thanks to Czech declension) can never work as good as in English. I do not write texts anyway - I use it mainly for entering urls in browser so I prefer not to waste screen space as I want to see more search suggestions in browsers (or addresses history) etc.
I hate to be one of those people that asks irrelevant things in a thread, but since you are familiar with the inner workings of the Swiftke.apk, I figured you might be able and willing to help. The one thing I dislike about swiftkey is the auto-space feature that it has. Meaning after you type in a word, it automatically adds a space after. This is a huge pain in the butt when it comes to entering passwords and usernames. Do you know what file(s) in the apk would be responsible for this behavior? I could probably figure out how to change it, I just don't know where to look.
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I'm just curious but why did you want to create this mod? Prediction is the main attraction of SwiftKey. I mean, otherwise I would use any other keyboard. Just wondering and no offense meant.
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i thought the same when i saw this thread. that is pretty much the whole point of the keyboard (and flow for rapid typing), unless you only use it swiftkey for colorful themes lol, there are far better keyboards than swiftekey if you're only interested in themes. IMO
but you can disable the annoying automatic word correcting as i mention below (which is an annoying) while still keeping the prediction bar (which is very good just to use as spell checker too).
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I hate to be one of those people that asks irrelevant things in a thread, but since you are familiar with the inner workings of the Swiftke.apk, I figured you might be able and willing to help. The one thing I dislike about swiftkey is the auto-space feature that it has. Meaning after you type in a word, it automatically adds a space after. This is a huge pain in the butt when it comes to entering passwords and usernames. Do you know what file(s) in the apk would be responsible for this behavior? I could probably figure out how to change it, I just don't know where to look.
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that only happens (i think) if you have "complete the current word" or "always insert a prediction" selected in settings >advanced>spacebar completion mode. i have mine at "always insert a space" and ironically it doesn't insert a space only when you select a word from the prediction bar.
you can keep the prediction bar enabled and stop auto prediction and adding a space (where words are automatically corrected in input field you didn't want) by selecting the option i mentioned above.
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that only happens (i think) if you have "complete the current word" or "always insert a prediction" selected in settings >advanced>spacebar completion mode. i have mine at "always insert a space" and ironically it doesn't insert a space only when you select a word from the prediction bar.
you can keep the prediction bar enabled and stop auto prediction and adding a space (where words are automatically corrected in input field you didn't want) by selecting the option i mentioned above.
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No it still happens, this is how I have it set and it still auto spaces which is annoying.
moneytoo said:
This module permanently disables prediction/autocomplete/completion/prediction bar within SwiftKey keyboard.
Future versions/updates of SwiftKey might break this mod. Tested working agains versions 5.0.1.87 and 5.0.2.4.
Disable SwiftKey Prediction is also available from Xposed Module Repository (source).
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For 1 whole year I regularly contacted Swiftkey and asked to fix this they never fixed it, issue is Swiftkey is taking COPIED text as TYPED text. It should take typed words only (this is big reason behind inaccurate/unneeded word prediction). Could you do something about it?
Below is the email i wrote to Swiftkey:
There is one ANNOYING feature I found in Swiftkey. I checked this twice thrice and informing you. The problem is: Saving the words what we type is good but BAD/WORST part is, it also saves the words when you just copy text from other sources for example: Copying random text or paragraph from webpages, Ebooks and Documents. Those text are NOT TYPED by the user and those words get copied to internal dictionary of Swiftkey which I don't like to be predicted while I type. I copy some stuff from webpages to read it later but it doesn't mean that I like all the words in that copied text and it should not add in internal dictionary of swiftkey. Please fix this ASAP.
P.S. I have English and Hindi language packs installed. Experiment yourself. Just copy the below words in text file and save it. I would never use the below words ever. While typing, long press on the below words and hit 'Do not predict again'. It will not predict. But when you open the text file you saved and select and copy those words, they will simply added to the dictionary of Swiftkey and you'll see them come across while you type.
Words:
chateau chatman chatham zuzana zyban zuma zu beau beaune beauregard
i always wanted to use Swiftkey because it looks good, but i hated the fact you can't turn prediction off. THANK YOU.
there is one minor bug though. the keyboard size gets messed up after changing the screen rotation. it ends up being either too tall or too short?
using it on stock-ish Note 3.
zmfl said:
there is one minor bug though. the keyboard size gets messed up after changing the screen rotation. it ends up being either too tall or too short?
using it on stock-ish Note 3.
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It seemed to me kinda weird one time I rotated it with keyboard opened... I see it now and will check it.
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It seemed to me kinda weird one time I rotated it with keyboard opened... I see it now and will check it.
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tnx, i hope you can fix it
I thought it was the obfuscated method name but it is still the same. Seems like this was caused by later versions of SwiftKey - my two months old version is ok. So it's either waiting whatever new version will fix that or go through changes within apk and attempt to fix "their" bug. I will probably try in the next few days but no promise - it's really low priority for me.
thanx
thank you so much, i hated that bar. Finally. I don't know why they don't offer that option. They have that option in ios. It makes me angry how unthoughtful people are.
Swift Keyboard Rotation Bug
I absolutely love this mod mixed with the fact that you can change the size of keyboard. Both of these combined allow me to go landscape and still be able to see conversation while typing. Same bug though when I rotate it resizes to all sorts of weirdness. Would be like the greatest thing ever if you could fix. I know you said low priority but I would soooo donate if u could figure out.
This Mod disables "Quick Period with double tap spacebar" as well. I reckon that is not supposed to happen.
not working on 5.1.0.60
this mod doesn't work for me anymore on the new version 5.1.0.60
Great fix but unfortunately doesn't seem to work on latest version of SwiftKey, tried to downgrade to 5.0.5.95 but can't install previous version somehow .. Waiting for some update mate
Related
Hi all,
I had an idea for a better keyboard for the streak, but I can't find any step-by-step walkthroughs for making android keyboards. If there's one available, let me know and I should be able to tackle this.
If not, I think the streak needs a split keyboard. Imagine the left half of the keyboard on the left third of the screen, the right half on the right third, and a big numpad/d-pad in the middle third. When I'm typing in landscape mode, I know I'd appreciate minimizing my thumbs' reach.
Any takers? Or good keyboard making tutorials?
-- David Z
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I thought the same thing when i first got my streak.
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Great Idea!
If someone does make one you should add settings so you can control where the DPAD is, so you could make it like the original Dell Keyboard too!
I'm guessing you've not tried swype then?
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While we're on the subject of thumb reach, might I suggest a portrait keyboard with more keys on the left/right side, so you don't constantly mis-type those O's and P's as a leftie (for example), when using the streak one-handed?
I was thinking of a real multitouch keyboard.
First, you have the standard qwerty keyboard, with shift, enter en dpad buttons. A tab button would be cool too.
Second, if you tap and hold the keyboard (anywhere) and slide it to the left, on the right side it will reveal the nummeric keys, where you can input your numbers. Releasing the keyboard and it'll slide back in position. Slidng the other way around, gives other keys.
I'm dreaming of such a keyboard a long time now.
Someone?
Radddogg said:
I'm guessing you've not tried swype then?
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I'm guessing you blatantly did not read the OP's idea then?
Zelman said:
I think the streak needs a split keyboard. Imagine the left half of the keyboard on the left third of the screen, the right half on the right third, and a big numpad/d-pad in the middle third. When I'm typing in landscape mode, I know I'd appreciate minimizing my thumbs' reach.
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If somebody makes this, I will personally buy them a drink
I love the Streak, but my thumbs don't...
Hi guys- I don't know of any tutorials, but basically you need to create a custom IME (that's the term used by Android SDK). There is an android SDK example for creating an IME I believe. Also, here is the source code for a Latin keyboard IME someone made:
http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/packages/inputmethods/LatinIME.git;a=summary
+1 to the initial idea.
Myself and my office mate were just discussing UI's and both of us agreed that a split keyboard option would make the streak far more ergonomically friendly and probably speed up typing.
BTW, for mocked up examples of what we are talking about see:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/google-tablet-1.jpg
http://wp.appadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/4309481995_5bc3276d61_o.png
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/ss_dialkeys_horiz_520.jpg
I would really love to see a keyboard like this!
Dell's 1.6 stock keyboard makes good use of the additional space instead of just making the buttons ridiculously large, but it really should be symmetric.
With smartphones getting larger and tablets on the rise it's high time for new keyboards, so I think not only the Streak would benefit from it!
All thumbs up for the idea!
Here's an idea: find a developer and start up a kickstart for this... Perhaps we could post this to the general android development forum.
Basic Version
Hey all,
Here's a basic version. It's just a slightly modified version of the soft keyboard that comes with the SDK. It's only usable it in landscape mode, unless you have really small fingers.
Any thoughts/ideas/feedback? Basic changes may be within my ability. A lot of the programming is way over my head, so if anyone wants the source to do some fancy stuff, let me know.
Zelman
Zelman said:
Hey all,
Here's a basic version. It's just a slightly modified version of the soft keyboard that comes with the SDK. It's only usable it in landscape mode, unless you have really small fingers.
Any thoughts/ideas/feedback? Basic changes may be within my ability. A lot of the programming is way over my head, so if anyone wants the source to do some fancy stuff, let me know.
Zelman
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Nice work will give it a try
Works fine i would just prefer the buttons to be a bit bigger about double the size infact and would like the numbers on the end and not in the middle and the numbers a different colour but thats me other than that a great start thanks
Awesome! Some color / shading might help to distinguish between the letters and numbers and more easily find keys. May be its something you adjust to but i find myself having to search for letters.
Two other layout thoughts. 1) maybe stretching out the spacebar a bit. since thats a frequently pressed key it'd be nice to have it by the other letters and closer to the thumbs., 2) rearranging the numpad to have the zero at the bottom center as with a typical dialer numpad. This would require splitting the spacebar into two segments.
Just my 2 cents.
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gtg203a said:
Awesome! Some color / shading might help to distinguish between the letters and numbers and more easily find keys. May be its something you adjust to but i find myself having to search for letters.
Two other layout thoughts. 1) maybe stretching out the spacebar a bit. since thats a frequently pressed key it'd be nice to have it by the other letters and closer to the thumbs., 2) rearranging the numpad to have the zero at the bottom center as with a typical dialer numpad. This would require splitting the spacebar into two segments.
Just my 2 cents.
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Can't get color to work, yet. Good idea on the spacebar(s). Check this version out.
Screenshot
Here's the current state of things (as of the build above). I'm going to look more into changing the color of the number keys, but I don't think it's really as necessary with this layout. Any and all suggestions are welcomed, and I will let you know what I can/can't/will/won't do.
Also, anyone with android programming experience who can tell me things like, "What are the image format requirements for icons like the one on the delete key?" please let me know if you can offer expertise.
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Can't get color to work, yet. Good idea on the spacebar(s). Check this version out.
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hi thanks alot for the keyboard, its amazing, only 1 bug/error or maybe its just me, as i type a text, after every fullstop, it automatically changes to capital which is good, but it doesnt change back to small case letters after the first letter has been typed, for example if i type this and then stop. IT CONTINUES LIKE THIS. hope u understand? plz help cause otherwise this keyboard would be perfect for me
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hi thanks alot for the keyboard, its amazing, only 1 bug/error or maybe its just me, as i type a text, after every fullstop, it automatically changes to capital which is good, but it doesnt change back to small case letters after the first letter has been typed, for example if i type this and then stop. IT CONTINUES LIKE THIS. hope u understand? plz help cause otherwise this keyboard would be perfect for me
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I have definitely seen the same issue. I will take a look at the source, but if anyone has the SDK and has a good eye for troubleshooting code, feel free to post hints.
Fellow modders, could you please suggest some good Keyboards?
The problem is that there probably won't be a good swype-like keyboard available for Serbian language for a long time (there are simply too many word-forms and irregular forms per word). I've been trying to get used to Swype (the latest version) for 2 weeks now, but it's simply not possible, their Serbian dictionary is not really big and I have to type in manually at least one new word per a message which then completely destroys any speed effect that swyping has I've added ~150 my words so far, but I still have to write in new ones all the time... And wnex ord prediction is non existent, Swype sucks at predicting words. The good thing about Swype is that it keeps the standard 26 letter keyboard (all Ć, Č and C are under C; Š and S are under S etc).
I've also tried the latest SwiftKey X. The problem with it is that it shows all 30 letters of Serbian Latin script and that makes the key too small... The dictionary and word prediction seems a lot better than it is on Swype, but the keys are just so small I couldn't find an option to switch to a 26 letter keyboard while using the Serbian dictionary
So, after weeks of experimenting, I would like to return to the usual way of typing - letter by letter. What keyboard would you recommend for this?
The best keyboard for letter by letter typing on Gingerbread was that HTC one, it was A LOT better than the 2.3 AOSP keyboard! But it doesn't work on anything higher than Android 2.3
Coming to ICS and JellyBean, the AOSP keyboard has been greatly improved, but I find the keys a bit too small for our screens and when I type fast, mistakes happen all the time
I will try to use SwiftKeyX as a regular keyboard, without Serbian and "Flow" enabled, but would you recommend any more? Are there any good brand-made keyboards for Android 4.x? Sony/Xperia, Samsung/TouchWiz, HTC/Sense?
*sorry for the terribly long post*
I remember seeing a HTC Sense keyboard somewhere for ICS+. I'll post the link if I find it.
hotdog125 said:
I remember seeing a HTC Sense keyboard somewhere for ICS+. I'll post the link if I find it.
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Please do so
Any comments on the Xperia keyboard from anyone?
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Any comments on the Xperia keyboard from anyone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265906
Worth a try. It's from the One.
and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35568457
Not sure whether they'll work, have a backup in hand.
I use SwiftKey whit no problems.
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I use SwiftKey whit no problems.
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I've switched from Swype to Swiftkey and have been using it for the past week or so and deleted it last night. The more I used it, the worse the predictions and the corrections became... The Xperia keyboard is nice, but the keys are utterly to small for me, I couldn't achieve any speed or precision
I will try TouchPal and Kii keyboards in the following days, maybe one of these two will work out for me
If not, I've also signed up for the Minuum keyboard beta and I'm waiting for them to contact me.... (you can sign up here - http://minuum.com/ )
I also was searching for good keyboard for our "small" screens.
Also i needed Serbian letters and Ћирилица. I tested a lot of them and last 1 year i am using Smart Keyboard Pro.
You can edit everything you want. There is also calibration so can be calibrated it to your usage.
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I also was searching for good keyboard for our "small" screens.
Also i needed Serbian letters and Ћирилица. I tested a lot of them and last 1 year i am using Smart Keyboard Pro.
You can edit everything you want. There is also calibration so can be calibrated it to your usage.
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Thanks, mate, will check it out for sure
I have tested Kii Keyboard and Touchpal since my last post. Kii Keyboard is not on par with the bigger names (like Swype, Touchpal and Swiftkey), it just doesn't feel that mature. I didn't find it enjoyable.
Touchpal was very good for my needs, but I couldn't turn off its "toolbar" (that's how they call its word suggestion line, because it has shortcuts to some tools) which was very irritating
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Thanks, mate, will check it out for sure
I have tested Kii Keyboard and Touchpal since my last post. Kii Keyboard is not on par with the bigger names (like Swype, Touchpal and Swiftkey), it just doesn't feel that mature. I didn't find it enjoyable.
Touchpal was very good for my needs, but I couldn't turn off its "toolbar" (that's how they call its word suggestion line, because it has shortcuts to some tools) which was very irritating
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There's a lot keyboards at marketplace for sure but i never found any keyboard that i can change everything i want, there is always that something need to stay or i am missing something from reall keyboard. When you are typing, some suffs are just anoying and that was:
- Turn off complitlly text predirection, only Auto-capitalizion to stay,
- add enter button,
- remove speaker button,
- remove smiley button,
- remove or change popup button (usually that can makes small deley when you type fast, so without it you can type how much fast you want)
- having " , " and " . " at same time
- control extra space
- having normal, not some colored styles
- support for needed language and when i use it, i don't need to use that layout. So when i am using Serbian language, i dont need to have changed letters Z ana Y. English layout can be used.
- Calibration is incredible, its impossible to wrote wrong word with it. I dont understand how perfect can be but it is. I just will never learn to use touch screen for type message
- after all after you restore backup from memory card, calibration and all settings are same as you saved them.
There is so much more stuffs that i didn't found on other keyboard but i just need them. That was the only reason why i hated this phone when i buyed it At first look i tought that its impossible to write normal messages without 30% of bad typed words but after this one, i found it possible. Maybe there is many peoples who will find that less important but when you wrote some important mail or something, i don't wanna spend 10 minutes more to find all strings or keys i always need.
Phone is just incredible and i want to make it most possible incredible that i can
Sorry for mine English
Use swift key keyboard its the best one for me since you can download your languages and it can learn on Facebook or twitter...
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bryanchan727 said:
Use swift key keyboard its the best one for me since you can download your languages and it can learn on Facebook or twitter...
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I know, and Swiftkey and Touchpal have those features as well, but I don't want to use text prediction and auto-correction... I've tried living with those features for almost a month and it didn't work out, the Serbian dictionaries available for keyboards are not very good and the amount of word forms covered is very low...
Thanks for the suggestion, though
@EmptySD Downloaded Smart Keyboard Pro, will test soon! And don't worry, your English is good enough to get the message across :good:
You can turn swift key's auto correction settings off when you just started with the app....
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You can turn swift key's auto correction settings off when you just started with the app....
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Which I did But then SwiftKey didn't make much noise, because the keys are more cramped up than they are on the AOSP keyboard and, furthermore, the symbols were strangely positioned and smileys weren't as accessible as on the AOSP one, so...
But it doesn't matter, because Smart Keyboard Pro is just what I needed A tad bigger keys than on the AOSP keyboard and that's it. Everything is in the same place, but I have a higher speed combined with a better accuracy
Thanks goes out to all of you who had any suggestions!
i use multylanguage keboard becoz of the big letters. it helps writing weel
cm7 keyboard is great , but if not you can use go keyboard or swiftkey
Thumb Keyboard has been the best of all I have tried. I am on a Note 2 and imo Thumb Keyboard looks/works the best when forced into tablet mode, but it is still the best even in phone mode.
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I use SwiftKey.
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I use SwiftKey.
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Touchpal kb.
Now, I've upgraded it to ICS and using Google Keyboard (downloaded apk from non-play and installed). Prediction looks great but lacks themes.
Have you tried AnySoftKeyboard with com.anysoftkeyboard.languagepack.serbian ?
(but there is not swype taping)
I use SwiftKey
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Those of us who have had our TrueSmart have learned that while this thing is crazy cool, there are a few quirks that need to be worked out.
For example, the YouTube app's Full Screen. The TrueSmart has a square, not rectangle wide screen, so the Full Screen wouldn't be quite full.
With the Xposed Framework Installed, you can install a Mod called "App Settings" and find the YouTube app, then you can make DPI (resolution) changes and click "Force Orientation > Portrait Mode". Now when using YouTube, expanding to full screen will allow for a more 'dedicated viewing experience'.
There are some apps (found in the Play Store) that you can't access without accepting the ToS (Terms of Service), and the "accept" and "decline" buttons are below the screen. In this case, you'd need to change the DPI, and possibly more settings. I even also had the same SuperSU issues that quite a lot of us had: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2656146 There are quite a few ways to fix the spillage.
Also, simply because I feel like saying something, why don't we have subsections for General, Q&A, Accessories, Development and such? meh :/
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Those of us who have had our TrueSmart have learned that while this thing is crazy cool, there are a few quirks that need to be worked out.
For example, the YouTube app's Full Screen. The TrueSmart has a square, not rectangle wide screen, so the Full Screen wouldn't be quite full.
With the Xposed Framework Installed, you can install a Mod called "App Settings" and find the YouTube app, then you can make DPI (resolution) changes and click "Force Orientation > Portrait Mode". Now when using YouTube, expanding to full screen will allow for a more 'dedicated viewing experience'.
There are some apps (found in the Play Store) that you can't access without accepting the ToS (Terms of Service), and the "accept" and "decline" buttons are below the screen. In this case, you'd need to change the DPI, and possibly more settings. I even also had the same SuperSU issues that quite a lot of us had: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2656146 There are quite a few ways to fix the spillage.
Also, simply because I feel like saying something, why don't we have subsections for General, Q&A, Accessories, Development and such? meh :/
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Thanks. If you want to make you post a [Guide] I'll add it to the Everything sticky.
Except for the rotation issue, qemu.sf.lcd_density=115 added to the build.prop also resolves the "fit" issue on almost every app as well and is the reason why I'm adding it back to the patch for all x201s.
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Thanks. If you want to make your post a [Guide] I'll add it to the Everything sticky...... (Cont.)
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I'll consider turning it into a guide. Friendly tip: It may have been a mistake but please try not to quote the entire long post, it takes up extra unneeded room, a @deedscreen mention in reply or partial quote works just fine. It can make things a bit hectic. (Ex: you have a long development thread and someone quotes the long post to say "this is cool".) Nevertheless, the guide is a good idea - now if we can only figure out how to get the status bar to always show when using -say- Nova launcher. My attempts haven't gone the greatest so far. :cyclops:
Hi Loki
Don't you just love when guys learns developers how to quote OP...
BTW - request is already sent to moderators for sections inside of Omate section.
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It was before my first cup of coffee so blame it on the lack of caffeine.
The solution I've been using is Swipe Statusbar. It's not ideal but does free up the space a consistent status bar would use. A permanent status bar fix is going to most likely require the framework and related files be gone through and redone as they use a show intent versus a hide intent from what I've been told.
I do use my ppi edit and Force Orientation on my daily device. Hopefully I can make the need for the orientation lock unnecessary and have it active at all times for all apps. That would cover the majority of users and apps used and can't remember the last time I wanted an app to rotate on the x201.
I know what you mean, with that app I've tried and it covers some areas of apps and drives me insane, I can't quite win...
Hi guys,
Now that I've put the Imperium Operative installed, the fleksy keyboard is gone. I've thought about downloading it again, but wonder: are there better keyboards out there? In my ideal keyboard I could just draw each letter on the entire screen, like on old Palm devices.
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Hi guys,
Now that I've put the Imperium Operative installed, the fleksy keyboard is gone. I've thought about downloading it again, but wonder: are there better keyboards out there? In my ideal keyboard I could just draw each letter on the entire screen, like on old Palm devices.
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There is a version of graffiti for android, but like the old palm it requires your strokes in the input area. Full screen writing may have been added much later in my Palm days
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.access_company.graffiti&hl=en
Time with the similar MotoACTV introduced me to the Flit keyboard. It has some neat transparency options and provides great accuracy on small screen devices.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.locnet.flitkeyboard&hl=en
Currently I use the paid version of swype with the xposed module that replaces dragon dictate with google voice. I find the touchscreen's sensitivity leads to a lot of false inputs when pecking, but great word swiping accuracy.
-fg
Maybe Minuum
Payed app, on sale now. I dont believe links are allowed, so I skip linking.
I have no TS yet, but the keyboard works well for English on other smallscreen devices I have tried it on.
Daniel Ortiz recommended it for the TS too.
metaphor_ said:
Hi guys,
Now that I've put the Imperium Operative installed, the fleksy keyboard is gone. I've thought about downloading it again, but wonder: are there better keyboards out there? In my ideal keyboard I could just draw each letter on the entire screen, like on old Palm devices.
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Flesky is not gone. "Backs up all changes into a "Removed" folder on internal storage"
I do agree with you about Graffiti though. Graffiti for Android is close but would be better if the input area was transparent as screen space is pretty critical with such a small screen.
gerhardo said:
Maybe Minuum
Payed app, on sale now. I dont believe links are allowed, so I skip linking.
I have no TS yet, but the keyboard works well for English on other smallscreen devices I have tried it on.
Daniel Ortiz recommended it for the TS too.
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I backed Minuum on Indiegogo and I use it as my main keyboard on the Truesmart.
It has a few issues with the settings (I can't figure out how to enable some of the new features...I think it may have a dpi issue that is keeping me from getting to the last step in their "enable minuum" screen, now that I think about it; I should try that xposed thing), but works very well in my opinion other than not having swiping input. The "precision entry" mode that it defaults to using for things like usernames, urls, and passwords takes up almost the entire screen; I find it better to switch back to the linear mode and use long presses to select the exact characters I want. But in that mode, it's the one thing I've seen that takes less space than Fleksy.
EDIT: Okay, I just checked out the Flit keyboard mentioned above. With its first keyboard set to the small qwerty and second set to small numbers (and no suggestion dictionary), it takes up less space than Minuum (by about the space Minuum uses for the suggestion area, shift, and backspace). That's enough to get me to try Flit for a while and see if I like it better. So for anyone looking for absolute least space consumed (ignoring the possibility of transparent keyboards that don't reserve screen space), Flit looks like a good option.
I actually have been using SwiftKey on mine, and it works reasonably well.
The predictions are a huge help.
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Great. Now it looks like I'm following you around.
I use swiftkey a well. I've been using swiftkey on my devices so long (Android BBQ 2012 I think) that prediction has gotten to the point were entire emails are written using only the first letter of every word.
About the only thing that might compete is Minimium but the smartwatch version has not been released yet.
I agree that minuum is shaping up be a good competitor. I have no use for Fleksy at all.
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kilroo said:
I backed Minuum on Indiegogo and I use it as my main keyboard on the Truesmart.
It has a few issues with the settings (I can't figure out how to enable some of the new features...I think it may have a dpi issue that is keeping me from getting to the last step in their "enable minuum" screen, now that I think about it; I should try that xposed thing), but works very well in my opinion other than not having swiping input. The "precision entry" mode that it defaults to using for things like usernames, urls, and passwords takes up almost the entire screen; I find it better to switch back to the linear mode and use long presses to select the exact characters I want. But in that mode, it's the one thing I've seen that takes less space than Fleksy.
EDIT: Okay, I just checked out the Flit keyboard mentioned above. With its first keyboard set to the small qwerty and second set to small numbers (and no suggestion dictionary), it takes up less space than Minuum (by about the space Minuum uses for the suggestion area, shift, and backspace). That's enough to get me to try Flit for a while and see if I like it better. So for anyone looking for absolute least space consumed (ignoring the possibility of transparent keyboards that don't reserve screen space), Flit looks like a good option.
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already contact minuum developers to check this defect and the answer that they have a special version for smart watches and they ask me to send them an e-mail which i have done but their email address has an error which is not delivered i sent them again via FB but no answer received due date
The "swype-ish" Google Keyboard from the play store has been working well for me -- it would be perfect for me if it could be made transparent...
I actually like the perfect keyboard in t9 mode mostly because it has bigger buttons for my fingers. Since I don't expect to be typing a novel just short messages and mostly receive notifications and perhaps using for my checkbook app, the t9 format of keys works for me.
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Minuum is preparing a smartwatch version, described on their blog: http://minuum.com/blog/
You can get a version by emailing them: [email protected]
The smart watch version is a modified 1.2.5b. The only difference in functionality I saw was that you do not have to use Xposed per-app-settings to login and that space was not enabled by default.
Expanded keyboard also have letters that you can read, but so has the just released 2.0. I will probably use 2.0, it has the cursor bonus panel and more.
A quote from the person answering me: "We are hoping to get Minuum pre-loaded on future versions of the TrueSmart and all feedback is helpful."
Good that there are alternatives.
I used the Fleksy keyboard for a bit and it seemed okay. I liked some of the things I could do on there, but I really like Swype, the paid version, much more. Even when "pecking," I can still type pretty accurately. This is especially because of how it learns from your typing habits, and since I have it linked to my Gmail account and I use Swype on my phone too, it recognizes the three words/symbols I'm likely to use after a certain word. I also like to use Swype too, or Dragon Voice. And I actually prefer Dragon Voice over Google Voice because Dragon Voice lets you pause in the middle, think a bit, and continue on. As far as I know, Google Voice doesn't let you do that.
This app makes it really convenient when you have to factory reset a device or you're going into a new device. Once you register Swype with your Gmail again, you have access to all the words you saved. I love this because I hate typing out my email addresses over and over again, when I'm used to typing in just three letters and being able to find it in the predictions.
Tried the Minuum Keyboard on Truesmart
Just started trying the Minuum keyboard and I like it better than what I was using which was the perfect keyboard. It uses much less space in linear mode and responds pretty well with the gesture selection mode of use. Just started using it and adjusted the font size using the settings as well as the Big Font app for adjusting font size across apps. Works very well as far as I have played with it and don't have any problems with the setup or usage. Will play with it more and see if I have any other comments soon.
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Just started trying the Minuum keyboard and I like it better than what I was using which was the perfect keyboard. It uses much less space in linear mode and responds pretty well with the gesture selection mode of use. Just started using it and adjusted the font size using the settings as well as the Big Font app for adjusting font size across apps. Works very well as far as I have played with it and don't have any problems with the setup or usage. Will play with it more and see if I have any other comments soon.
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I'm back on Minuum myself instead of Flit now. With the settings as I currently have them (being able to get to the settings helps a lot!), in linear mode with the extra toolbar showing but the spacebar hidden, it ties Flit for the least screen space taken of everything I've tried, but it's still just as fast to type with so far (even when I need to press and drag for precision) and if I turn off the extra bar temporarily, naturally it gets even smaller.
I'm experimenting with Super Keyboard Free right now. It has a few features I like... The t9 entry works as I expect it to... press once for m, 2 times for n, etc. You can force to fullscreen entry in portrait orientation, and you can configure the height of the rows of keys.
Don't know if I'll like it for the long term. Some keyboards that start promising end up annoying me. It takes forever to enter anything, but since I only use the keyboard to log into accounts, the amount of time it takes to enter stuff is made up for by the fact that I can type my passwords on the first try.
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Big Button Keyboard
Just found this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigbuttons i set the keyboard height slider all the way to the left ( 80% ).
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Perfect Keyboard with T9 layout work well
2nd for Flit keyboard (with 1st set to letters, 2nd to numbers). Was the first thing I installed coming from the Motoactv.
I have been playing with Swiftkey (my hands down fav on regular devices) and the fleksy one.
Wish fleksy had better predictions. swiping with swiftkey works surprisingly well, but it takes up a lot of the screen
Flit Keyboard is very good choice, is very small (in 1 row mode), uses only 1/3 screen and has big buttons. Thank you for tip
Im running Themer on my Moto X (stock) and sometimes it takes several attempts for a touch to register to open a given module. (Favorites, camers, etc.)
Sometimes it works ok, but sometimes the screen seems unresponsive to touch. I had it show touches in dev options but even 'direct hits' don't register and open whatever the icon is supposed to open. This seems to occur across themes. I do have widgets locked.
Am I missing something here or is this normal?
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Im running Themer on my Moto X (stock) and sometimes it takes several attempts for a touch to register to open a given module. (Favorites, camers, etc.)
Sometimes it works ok, but sometimes the screen seems unresponsive to touch. I had it show touches in dev options but even 'direct hits' don't register and open whatever the icon is supposed to open. This seems to occur across themes. I do have widgets locked.
Am I missing something here or is this normal?
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Hi,
Try uninstalling Themer - delete the /sdcard/MyColorScreen/ folder (removing the Exported folder within it if you saved any themes) - then reinstall Themer.
Let us know if that helps!
I have the same problem, both before and after doing what is suggested above. The pretty themes with really small or really close selections are the worst at it.
Thank you for responding, I'll give that a try. Though it is possible that with some themes with small target zones may contribute to the issue.
Thank you!
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Hi,
Try uninstalling Themer - delete the /sdcard/MyColorScreen/ folder (removing the Exported folder within it if you saved any themes) - then reinstall Themer.
Let us know if that helps!
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RED ZMAN said:
I have the same problem, both before and after doing what is suggested above. The pretty themes with really small or really close selections are the worst at it.
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Could you give us an example? We could try increasing these areas for selection.
Shades of green and coordinate are two perfect examples. I'm using a rooted Nexus 5 running droid Kang. Beautiful themes, but even with the screen showing presses I can be pressing right on something and it doesn't pick it up.
RED ZMAN said:
Shades of green and coordinate are two perfect examples. I'm using a rooted Nexus 5 running droid Kang. Beautiful themes, but even with the screen showing presses I can be pressing right on something and it doesn't pick it up.
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Thanks for the heads up, will speak to the developers and see what they can do.
I experience the same problem on my Note II running PA.
Is there an official place to request features
Same thing, doesn't seem dependent on theme (happens across all themes I've tried), T-Mo Galaxy Note 3 running stock 4.4.2 (unrooted)
It's hit & miss, sometimes everything works, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 presses before it registers. Seems to be memory related because it generally only happens when returning to the home screen after leaving another app that uses a significant portion of RAM, though I do not have actual evidence of this.
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Same thing, doesn't seem dependent on theme (happens across all themes I've tried), T-Mo Galaxy Note 3 running stock 4.4.2 (unrooted)
It's hit & miss, sometimes everything works, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 presses before it registers. Seems to be memory related because it generally only happens when returning to the home screen after leaving another app that uses a significant portion of RAM, though I do not have actual evidence of this.
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The developers are still looking into reducing RAM usage, hopefully this will be resolved soon.
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The developers are still looking into reducing RAM usage, hopefully this will be resolved soon.
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I believe this will solve the non-registering touches.
I don't think it's grid/sensitivity related, I really think it's the RAM issue.
ingenious247 said:
I believe this will solve the non-registering touches.
I don't think it's grid/sensitivity related, I really think it's the RAM issue.
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On my device it appears to be related to adding the dock feature or persistent search box. Adding either appears to cause the problem and then removing them causes the problem to be alleviated. I ran up my RAM usage to near 90% without any problems (without the dock or search).
Another bug I would love to see fixed is Themer retaining the dock and search features when applying a new theme. It is annoying having to reconfigure the options and add everything back to the dock each time.
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I'm going to add my feature requests/changes here since I can't find a specific thread for it.
App drawer:
Horizontal or vertical scroll options perhaps with a paginated option for both
Allow Themer icon to be swapped for the play store icon
Allow for the removal of the tabs at the top entirely
Launcher screens:
Allow custom smart categories and/or folders to be used by widgets (maybe the news icon could open a folder or category I've created to show all my news apps instead of launching the themer news app only)
Allow reordering of home screens (perhaps even allow adding multiple themes at one time next to each other)
Retain custom added home screen folders and icons when changing themes
Give end user access to icons used by the theme so when customizing an icon I can use one built into my theme (I like the dialer in my dock but I would love to use my theme's dialer icon instead of the default android one)
As mentioned above:
Retain dock and persistent search options between themes but also allow themes to better resize when those options are selected (some themes get cut off slightly or the aspect ratio gets out of whack)
Hopefully that doesn't sound too demanding. I'm just trying to help make an awesome concept better
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On my device it appears to be related to adding the dock feature or persistent search box. Adding either appears to cause the problem and then removing them causes the problem to be alleviated. I ran up my RAM usage to near 90% without any problems (without the dock or search).
Another bug I would love to see fixed is Themer retaining the dock and search features when applying a new theme. It is annoying having to reconfigure the options and add everything back to the dock each time.
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Agreed (Bold), I would like the notification bar auto-hide to stay selected when I change themes. However, because each theme requires a different configuration to work/look properly, this might not be ideal.
For me, the problem only happens when the launcher is trying to "catch up". This indicates a memory issue IMO. Anytime the launcher is fully loaded and I'm on the main home screen(s), I do not experience any issues registering touch.
Perhaps that is the problem then. I don't use Themer as a daily driver just yet because there are a few thing I need sorted out first. The touch issue in this thread being one of them. Folder/custom smart categories, mentioned in my edit above, are another.
This also happens when I use the gesture system(Swiping up/down). Personally this is the least fluid launcher I have ever used, sad seeing that its my favorite.
I know themer is still beta but this problem has been happening for a long time now.
On the gestures, I agree there is definitely an issue.
When attempting to do the "two fingers down" or "two fingers up", it generally triggers the "pinch in" gesture. This is the only launcher I have experienced this problem with. It's not make-or-break as I know it's beta, but accurate gestures are very important to me with the way I use my phone.
I expect these will get fine tuned before they transition out of beta
I'll have to rescind my former statement(s). I did more testing
There are definitely issues with touch not registering on some themes. As I tried more and more themes, I started to see it more and more. And it's bad. 2-3 times minimum to get the touches to register, especially on the Tron looking theme (I forget it's name). There are many more themes with this issue as well, and it appears over time the more cache/data stored in the MyColorScreen folder, the less responsive the launcher becomes. It got to the point of being unusable until I uninstalled, deleted the folder and reinstalled.
This, coupled with the intense RAM usage and pretty aggressive battery drain (10-12% daily, minimum) and I have to hold off on using Themer for now.
I'm not against sacrificing one or two minor things, but to sacrifice device response + RAM + Battery is too much just to use Themer. I will wait and watch and as improvements are made I will reinstall and retry.
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I'll have to rescind my former statement(s). I did more testing
There are definitely issues with touch not registering on some themes. As I tried more and more themes, I started to see it more and more. And it's bad. 2-3 times minimum to get the touches to register, especially on the Tron looking theme (I forget it's name). There are many more themes with this issue as well, and it appears over time the more cache/data stored in the MyColorScreen folder, the less responsive the launcher becomes. It got to the point of being unusable until I uninstalled, deleted the folder and reinstalled.
This, coupled with the intense RAM usage and pretty aggressive battery drain (10-12% daily, minimum) and I have to hold off on using Themer for now.
I'm not against sacrificing one or two minor things, but to sacrifice device response + RAM + Battery is too much just to use Themer. I will wait and watch and as improvements are made I will reinstall and retry.
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Hi,
Could you possibly provide us with some more details? What device/Android version/ROM are you using?
Also, which themes are doing this?
T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3, running stock 4.4.2, unrooted. For Theme specifics, I will have to reinstall and test for a few days. I will get back to you.