I have had it I have deleted all my photos AGAIN!!! I can't seem to see why KitKat made the Ext-SD Read Only : (ie photos in the internal memory) : WHY can't we access the internal memory from any of the recoveries and with all the other problems associated with the LB that we are all familiar with this is a really bad phone to root.
How did this happen ?
I downloaded a new ROM, made sure my phone had them both the ROM and the Dual Recovery flashable file on the SD and rebooted to TWRP. I then wiped out my everything but external and internal SD. After doing this I went to flash the ROM but couldn't find it (I know it was there but buried in one of the million sub directories.) Next I was interrupted at the door by my boss, we got to talking and I realized that my screen was off. When I returned the phone was in fact dead. #$#@ I screamed out loud because I knew what this meant. Despite my knowledge of how this operates I knew from experience loosing all my wedding photos that this wasn't going to go over well (read my previous thread of lost wedding photos).
Why even recommend rooting to anyone with a locked boot loader after all this is a phone people buy to use the camera. The photos are forced by default to internal memory and internal memory is extremely volatile on this phone
HAS ANYONE OUT THERE been able to get the data back I simply have no system/recovery partition now ?! Surely SOMEONE out there knows of a way to .ftf a system partition only so I can access my internal memory as the data partition is still fully intact..
If not I wont be surprised as this LB phone (camera) is a total disaster for me and I am regretting getting it in the first place... It's a real mess with these glitches ..
futiless said:
I have had it I have deleted all my photos AGAIN!!! I can't seem to see why KitKat made the Ext-SD Read Only : (ie photos in the internal memory) : WHY can't we access the internal memory from any of the recoveries and with all the other problems associated with the LB that we are all familiar with this is a really bad phone to root.
How did this happen ?
I downloaded a new ROM, made sure my phone had them both the ROM and the Dual Recovery flashable file on the SD and rebooted to TWRP. I then wiped out my everything but external and internal SD. After doing this I went to flash the ROM but couldn't find it (I know it was there but buried in one of the million sub directories.) Next I was interrupted at the door by my boss, we got to talking and I realized that my screen was off. When I returned the phone was in fact dead. #$#@ I screamed out loud because I knew what this meant. Despite my knowledge of how this operates I knew from experience loosing all my wedding photos that this wasn't going to go over well (read my previous thread of lost wedding photos).
Why even recommend rooting to anyone with a locked boot loader after all this is a phone people buy to use the camera. The photos are forced by default to internal memory and internal memory is extremely volatile on this phone
HAS ANYONE OUT THERE been able to get the data back I simply have no system/recovery partition now ?! Surely SOMEONE out there knows of a way to .ftf a system partition only so I can access my internal memory as the data partition is still fully intact..
If not I wont be surprised as this LB phone (camera) is a total disaster for me and I am regretting getting it in the first place... It's a real mess with these glitches ..
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If you got proper root you're always able to backup. It's just your fault you lost your data.
If it's just system that's gone you haven't lost any actual data yet, get the ftf for the firmware you were using, flash it in flashtool with everything but system /kernel checked. That way it doesn't wipe data etc. I'm not at my computer so can't be exact but you get the picture just restoring system via flashtool should do the trick
Also if you use xposed there's a module to enable handling of external storage, that and setting pics to save to external memory card should avoid you ever having this issue again. There's also an app called folder mount that can be used to ghost internal directories to the external card too hth
Oh also, I may be wrong but if you were using philz if you let the screen go dark while your running something it stays dark till it's finished then a quick press of the power button wakes it back up, you should of waited a little longer if that was the issue
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If it's just system that's gone you haven't lost any actual data yet, get the ftf for the firmware you were using, flash it in flashtool with everything but system /kernel checked. That way it doesn't wipe data etc. I'm not at my computer so can't be exact but you get the picture just restoring system via flashtool should do the trick
Also if you use xposed there's a module to enable handling of external storage, that and setting pics to save to external memory card should avoid you ever having this issue again. There's also an app called folder mount that can be used to ghost internal directories to the external card too hth
Oh also, I may be wrong but if you were using philz if you let the screen go dark while your running something it stays dark till it's finished then a quick press of the power button wakes it back up, you should of waited a little longer if that was the issue
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Your a GENIUS this totally saved me thank you so much sir : THIS WORKED... it was something I considered but found daunting because I have a 6906, the 6903 FTF worked for anyone reading this !!!! Maybe I can fix my attitude on this one thanks again...
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Your a GENIUS this totally saved me thank you so much sir : THIS WORKED... it was something I considered but found daunting because I have a 6906, the 6903 FTF worked for anyone reading this !!!! Maybe I can fix my attitude on this one thanks again...
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Can I suggest you edit title to include [SOLVED] - might help other folks out
No worries pal, glad you got it sorted I'd be just the same if I thought I'd lost data that was important to me
Plus, why the hell are you not using google+ to backup your photos ?
Personally I use My PhoneExplorer to back my phone up and synchronise with my pc. It wil also back up all your photos to a folder in the My Pictures directory, sync your calendar and even make basic data backups. Been using it for years now, ever since I had a Sony Ericsson K700 phone
This is just a suggestion if you are also a bit paranoid in storing all your stuff on google.
http://www.fjsoft.at/en/
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But you know that even without any rooting there is an option inside the camera app where to store pictures? You can choose ext. SD Card there. In my opinion it's not hard to find and due to your last disaster it's your fault not checking this. Since there are options to keep pictures on SD Card in fact you shouldn't blame the phone nor Sony.
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Plus, why the hell are you not using google+ to backup your photos ?
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Privacy reasons, not wanting a third party to be responsible for your data etc etc
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Would like to do this but don't know how exactly ...
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Would like to do this but don't know how exactly ...
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Plus, why the hell are you not using google+ to backup your photos ?
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Kind of short sighted and pretentious to think we would all see things exactly the same. Personally Google isn't the "answer" to all my problems. Secondly I have had numerous smart phones as most of us have and this Xperia although I love it I have to dance around the volatile situation it poses to have 4.4 limitations which requires root to be able to in order to write to SD (?!). Kinda weird if you ask me and this is just one more thing to setup and calibrate so between roms it is easily overlooked. As I don't actually use social networking all that much and I have such large photos among many other things. I am thinking of other ways to automate this in the future. I am looking for a more set it and forget it method and if I could persist this between roms so be it.
I would like to know who keeps everything they own online aswell today... I mean why do companies use a VPN for data archive ... when they can just sync EVERYTHING to the cloud ?
I ponder politics
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You should not flash ROMs in locked BL even if you have a recovery and root that doesn't mean it will flash a ROM.
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If I'm getting a new note. Can I restore a Nandroid of the rom from my old note to the new one to keep everything in tact or us that gonna mess stuff up?
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If I'm getting a new note. Can I restore a Nandroid of the rom from my old note to the new one to keep everything in tact or us that gonna mess stuff up?
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I would say right off the bat...Yes...your gonna mess stuff up....
why not use titanium backup paid...which is great, you can save all your setting/data/apps....then if your going to run the same ROM, on your new Note...just copy the titanium backup folder from your old Note to your new Note... and put tibu on your new Note...hit restore...btw the paid is great due to you capabilities of run batch backup and restorations...among lots of other items ...Tibu is a very powerful tool for any android smartphone...
check it out...
I think his goal is to clone his phone. Not for samsung even if it is the same exact model.
Samsung phones have an encrypted file that generates the phone IEMI. If you nandroid, that folder and file go to the second phone and your phone ends with no (or a generic) IEMI.
There are better ways to restore a new phone.
Edit: I did this with an AOSP ROM without issue. Even though everything seemed fine, I wouldn't suggest doing it. I know setting up the phone is a PITA, but the extra time it takes is well worth it considering the problems that may arise from restoring a nandroid to the same model phone.
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I would say right off the bat...Yes...your gonna mess stuff up....
why not use titanium backup paid...which is great, you can save all your setting/data/apps....then if your going to run the same ROM, on your new Note...just copy the titanium backup folder from your old Note to your new Note... and put tibu on your new Note...hit restore...btw the paid is great due to you capabilities of run batch backup and restorations...among lots of other items ...Tibu is a very powerful tool for any android smartphone...
check it out...
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Yea i have the paid version so i could just do it like that and treat it like a new rom. Just restore my apps from tibu, sms/ call logs with mybackup pro, and just use my launcher/messaging theme and setup . So all i have to manually restore are my system settings. Thanks
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I think his goal is to clone his phone. Not for samsung even if it is the same exact model.
Samsung phones have an encrypted file that generates the phone IEMI. If you nandroid, that folder and file go to the second phone and your phone ends with no (or a generic) IEMI.
There are better ways to restore a new phone.
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Didnt know that about the encrypted files,thanks for the warning. You were right I just wanted to be lazy and "clone my phone"
froidroid said:
Edit: I did this with an AOSP ROM without issue. Even though everything seemed fine, I wouldn't suggest doing it. I know setting up the phone is a PITA, but the extra time it takes is well worth it considering the problems that may arise from restoring a nandroid to the same model phone.
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Point well taken
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I think his goal is to clone his phone. Not for samsung even if it is the same exact model.
Samsung phones have an encrypted file that generates the phone IEMI. If you nandroid, that folder and file go to the second phone and your phone ends with no (or a generic) IEMI.
There are better ways to restore a new phone.
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i am certain nandroids DO NOT contain the /efs folder... back in the captivate days you had to do a manual backup of that folder in case your IMEI (M comes before the E btw) got messed up you could restore it with that backup... if a nandroid contained that, then that backup step would have been superfluous.
On top of that... nandroids don't even contain the fuggin modem...why would they have the phone specific information that you should NEVER even touch in the first place?
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i am certain nandroids DO NOT contain the /efs folder... back in the captivate days you had to do a manual backup of that folder in case your IMEI (M comes before the E btw) got messed up you could restore it with that backup... if a nandroid contained that, then that backup step would have been superfluous.
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Are you certain enough to let what you say brick someone's phone? I don't think you or I are enough of an expert to make that assertion.
From Rootswiki forum:
This question comes up in a lot of forums because some people think we should be able to just copy the whole package from one phone to another like we can on computers. Unfortunately almost every piece of software on phones is installed in such a way that it is inextricably tied to that particular piece of hardware. Nandroid and other backups only work on the phone they were made.
At code.google.com the consensus was don't do it.
I got the /efs folder detail from Samsung support. Its within the /system folder -- why would you think it gets skipped during backup? And the messed up IEMI number is a very common outcome. Just look around in other galaxy s class phone forums.
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And your concern about the frakkin modem -- that code isn't in the modem, its in the nvdata file (the encrypted one I mentioned) in the /efs folder.
@ctraywick1:
Don't follow advice that could ruin your phone when there are only opinions not facts available.
Just develop a good backup strategy so migrating to a new rom or phone is less painful.
My point about the modern was not that IT contained the IMEI, i know perfectly well where it is, in fact better than you (see below lol). it was the fact that you flash modems all the time and yet they are not contained in s nandroid, so...why would non volatile data like that be included...
And the efs folder is most certainly NOT IN the /system directory...that would be retarded as that directory gets COMPLETELY FORMATTED with every Rom flash.
IT'S IN THE ROOT DIRECTORY
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My point about the modern was not that IT contained the IMEI, i know perfectly well where it is, in fact better than you (see below lol). it was the fact that you flash modems all the time and yet they are not contained in s nandroid, so...why would non volatile data like that be included...
And the efs folder is most certainly NOT IN the /system directory...that would be retarded as that directory gets COMPLETELY FORMATTED with every Rom flash.
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Why are you making such a big deal about this? The OP just wanted advice and I can find 100 posts that say don't copy your nandroid to another phone. Because we are dealing with a $600 device the wisest thing to do is say "don't do it" and help him develop a usedul backup strategy. What are you doing to further that goal? I gave several experts and you only offer your opinion. Thats just not good enough even if you are the smartest guy in the room.
And your own picture says you're mistaken about the flashing and rewriting. Look at the date of your /efs folder. I'm sure your phone is more than two days old. My stock phone has May 6 2012 date created.
Yes, I was wrong about the location, but the advice is still his best course. Experiment on your own phone.
Lol you come back with false information...i correct it.. Not "making a big deal", but i will not be corrected with information that is not accurate.
A nandroid is not the "whole phone"
As i said, it does not contain a modem, also doesn't contain your bootloaders, your sdcards/emmc, or the /efs folder.
And since it doesn't contain bootloaders there is no chance of hard bricking anything.
I didn't condone nor endorse anything either...Just saying the IMEI is not in a nandroid, that 's all
Yeah, I'm no expert just an enthusiast. Thats why I got the TiBu screenshot that said "whole phone". I guess they are giving incorrect information.
Your screenshot contradicts you -- look at the /efs folder date.
Oh.. That's cause i was experimenting with some stuff inside there, just goofing around and looking through it really, and even though it was a copy i was messing with... i copied back a known untouched version just out of ocd.
Well anyway I don't think it matters to you but I enjoy your posts and repect your opinions.
You add a lot of value to xda.
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Oh.. That's cause i was ... i copied back a known untouched version just out of ocd.
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I moved some apps to the storage card and now my phone only stays up for a few minutes!!
Is there any fix I can do without recovery? TIA
DAMN I wish Android had a Safe Mode like SPB Pocket Plus gave us WinMo!!!
What does Wipe Delvik Cache do? I know the others completely restore the rom.
Or is it possible I could access I can load the internel android sd card and delete something i.e.: suspected app go taskmanager
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I moved some apps to the storage card and now my phone only stays up for a few minutes!!
Is there any fix I can do without recovery? TIA
DAMN I wish Android had a Safe Mode like SPB Pocket Plus gave us WinMo!!!
What does Wipe Delvik Cache do? I know the others completely restore the rom.
Or is it possible I could access I can load the internel android sd card and delete something i.e.: suspected app go taskmanager
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First thing you should forget about is moving apps to the SD card.
Secondly you can uninstall any app via adb commands in recovery (you can search on how to do that
You can also find mounds of info on what Dalvik cache is by Googling
You should've known all that before trying to move apps to SD or research and find which apps are safe to move to SD
Forget completely about moving apps to SD if you want a smooth trouble free experience
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First thing you should forget about is moving apps to the SD card.
Secondly you can uninstall any app via adb commands in recovery (you can search on how to do that
You can also find mounds of info on what Dalvik cache is by Googling
You should've known all that before trying to move apps to SD or research and find which apps are safe to move to SD
Forget completely about moving apps to SD if you want a smooth trouble free experience
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I searched Delvik Cache StreakMod in GOOGLE and found nothing... All that showed up was countless "Should I Clear My Delvik Cache When Installing A New Rom" threads, ClockworkMod Wiki didn't even tell me much about Delvik and when I searched there for it no results came up atll.
Thanks for nothing and being on the pessimist attack mode side of xda, I appreciate that very contributing, of you to assume I didn't try searching first!! You made an ass out of you and me now! LoL! Only tidbit of info that was remotely useful was telling me about uninstalling through adb.
I went ahead and tried a new rom out on my 32Gb card. Still got the LXdroid 0.2 rom on the old internal 2Gb card.
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I searched Delvik Cache StreakMod in GOOGLE and found nothing... All that showed up was countless "Should I Clear My Delvik Cache When Installing A New Rom" threads, ClockworkMod Wiki didn't even tell me much about Delvik and when I searched there for it no results came up atll.
Thanks for nothing and being on the pessimist attack mode side of xda, I appreciate that very contributing, of you to assume I didn't try searching first!! You made an ass out of you and me now! LoL! Only tidbit of info that was remotely useful was telling me about uninstalling through adb.
I went ahead and tried a new rom out on my 32Gb card. Still got the LXdroid 0.2 rom on the old internal 2Gb card.
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Then you should word your search differently and do more reading
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Then you should word your search differently and do more reading
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Tried that... LoL!! Dude I know how to find warez and paid for apps using google. So I know how to search, otherwise why do ya think I came to a developed community to ask for help??? That's like directing traffic AWAY from XDA instead of TOWARDS/INTO XDA! Good one! LoL
Like I said I even tried looking on ClockworkMod Wiki and didn't find anything with the simplest search phrase "Delvik" and nothing showed up... Somebody needs to plug up some holes!
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Tried that... LoL!! Dude I know how to find warez and paid for apps using google. So I know how to search, otherwise why do ya think I came to a developed community to ask for help??? That's like directing traffic AWAY from XDA instead of TOWARDS/INTO XDA! Good one! LoL
Like I said I even tried looking on ClockworkMod Wiki and didn't find anything with the simplest search phrase "Delvik" and nothing showed up... Somebody needs to plug up some holes!
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First of all its "Dalvik" and if you can't find what it means then you still need to hone your search skills instead of arguing with someone that knows more than you
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First of all its "Dalvik" and if you can't find what it means then you still need to hone your search skills instead of arguing with someone that knows more than you
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Knows more, maybe... But it took you 3 posts to tell me that! Good job.
Shew off with ya!
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Until you have something to contribute again, instead of bickering with someone like a grump old lady. Thanks =)
when you say moved some apps? what apps that you moved?
try reflashing the rom again.. might help you .. but usually start fresh is all the better..
or move the apps that you moved to external sd back to the internal sd ... but shouldnt streak have many extra spaces in internal sd? i never moved any apps to sd because there is always extra space even after i install hundreds of apps...
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when you say moved some apps? what apps that you moved?
try reflashing the rom again.. might help you .. but usually start fresh is all the better..
or move the apps that you moved to external sd back to the internal sd ... but shouldnt streak have many extra spaces in internal sd? i never moved any apps to sd because there is always extra space even after i install hundreds of apps...
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All that were suggested. Yea I wasn't staying up long enough to uninstall or move the apps back over to the internal storage.
I switched rom's an am using PCM7, loving it so far with the repentance of a few bugs that need to be worked out on my end.
Sorry if this is a bit of a generalization, but I got curious: I would like to understand why having the app living on the external SD could cause the phone to stop working. I know the developer may have a "flag" on the app manifest telling the system it wants to stay on the "main" storage, but what is it exactly that could break the system when reading from the SD? If I understand correctly, an app is merely a zipped .apk file, which is loaded into memory (maybe in chunks, whatever) and run from there... So: why would it matter where it's being read from?
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Sorry if this is a bit of a generalization, but I got curious: I would like to understand why having the app living on the external SD could cause the phone to stop working. I know the developer may have a "flag" on the app manifest telling the system it wants to stay on the "main" storage, but what is it exactly that could break the system when reading from the SD? If I understand correctly, an app is merely a zipped .apk file, which is loaded into memory (maybe in chunks, whatever) and run from there... So: why would it matter where it's being read from?
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I'm no expert at android but I'll give it my best shot...
Some app's tend to tie themselves into the system, like app's that require root access or whatever, maybe even task manager app's too. So unexpectedly moving that, would possibly cause a problem or hand ups, I also am led to believe that some app managers might not properly move the app in question correctly to the sd card, like the main android systems feature offers also. I believe.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know how the heck I somehow have 32gb of storage used in the "Other" category? As you can see I don't have much apps/music/etc so what the heck is this other stuff?
How can I check specifically what this "Other" stuff is that is killing my storage? Wish I could click on it in this screen and it shows me but no so jot sure how? I have file manager with root but not sure where to look to see what the heck this 32gb of waste is? Thanks
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I don't know how the heck I somehow have 32gb of storage used in the "Other" category? As you can see I don't have much apps/music/etc so what the heck is this other stuff?
How can I check specifically what this "Other" stuff is that is killing my storage? Wish I could click on it in this screen and it shows me but no so jot sure how? I have file manager with root but not sure where to look to see what the heck this 32gb of waste is? Thanks
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I would recommend downloading an app called "Clean Master" , then going to "Junk files" > Advanced > "Files > 10mb"
It helps tracking the huge files that you have on your SDCard like Media, zip files and other file types. However there are files it can't detect. But try it out first
Secondly on any rooted phone the storage becomes filled up with :
*ROMs.zip
*Titanium backup files (or any other backup files) since it keeps all the APKs even the huge one (like fifa 1gb+,,etc) so the storage becomes filled.
*Recovery nandroid backups , believe me when i tell you I become a freak when it comes to backups, every time I am about to flash a ROM, I make a new backup and I don't delete the old one.
Thats basically the major factor when it comes to filling up your storage, hope you find the issue ^^
Ghand0ur said:
I would recommend downloading an app called "Clean Master" , then going to "Junk files" > Advanced > "Files > 10mb"
It helps tracking the huge files that you have on your SDCard like Media, zip files and other file types. However there are files it can't detect. But try it out first
Secondly on any rooted phone the storage becomes filled up with :
*ROMs.zip
*Titanium backup files (or any other backup files) since it keeps all the APKs even the huge one (like fifa 1gb+,,etc) so the storage becomes filled.
*Recovery nandroid backups , believe me when i tell you I become a freak when it comes to backups, every time I am about to flash a ROM, I make a new backup and I don't delete the old one.
Thats basically the major factor when it comes to filling up your storage, hope you find the issue ^^
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Thank you very much! Ill try your suggestions and see what I can find. Just my next device purchase is only a 32gb device so don't want to fill that all up. Before coming to android I had an iPhone 4 16gb and never maxed it out so when I purchased this device with 64gb I figured no way I could ever fill it as I don't save movies or anything big on this device.
To he honest I believe I've only done 1 nandroid backup and that was when I first rooted my phone. How do I do that again and what is the purpose? Thanks!
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Ghand0ur said:
I would recommend downloading an app called "Clean Master" , then going to "Junk files" > Advanced > "Files > 10mb"
It helps tracking the huge files that you have on your SDCard like Media, zip files and other file types. However there are files it can't detect. But try it out first
Secondly on any rooted phone the storage becomes filled up with :
*ROMs.zip
*Titanium backup files (or any other backup files) since it keeps all the APKs even the huge one (like fifa 1gb+,,etc) so the storage becomes filled.
*Recovery nandroid backups , believe me when i tell you I become a freak when it comes to backups, every time I am about to flash a ROM, I make a new backup and I don't delete the old one.
Thats basically the major factor when it comes to filling up your storage, hope you find the issue ^^
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I downloaded the app and did as advised but only was able to clean up 1gb of space :crying:. Now just have 22.2gb of free data out of 64gb and still have no idea how? I have only maybe 1gb in pictures/videos saved, 2gb of mp3 music files, 1 rom which is about 898mb, and that's really it for what I put on the device manually and even after cleaning up all caches with the app you suggested. I've maybe done 1 nandroid backup ever and that was i believe before flashing my first custom rom.
Maybe the titanium backup issue is holding up a lot of data? Any hints on how to check on that as the app you suggested doesn't show any titanium backup files. I did download large games around 2gb each in the past and have deleted them since but maybe it's saved their apk's somewhere that i can delete? Still boggled how i'm eating up so much freakin space on this device when i have less installed on this phone then i did on my iphone 4 which only was 16gb of possible storage?
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I downloaded the app and did as advised but only was able to clean up 1gb of space :crying:. Now just have 22.2gb of free data out of 64gb and still have no idea how? I have only maybe 1gb in pictures/videos saved, 2gb of mp3 music files, 1 rom which is about 898mb, and that's really it for what I put on the device manually and even after cleaning up all caches with the app you suggested. I've maybe done 1 nandroid backup ever and that was i believe before flashing my first custom rom.
Maybe the titanium backup issue is holding up a lot of data? Any hints on how to check on that as the app you suggested doesn't show any titanium backup files. I did download large games around 2gb each in the past and have deleted them since but maybe it's saved their apk's somewhere that i can delete? Still boggled how i'm eating up so much freakin space on this device when i have less installed on this phone then i did on my iphone 4 which only was 16gb of possible storage?
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Quite so, using a file explorer go to /sdcard/titaniumbackup/ Check the properties of that folder , my guess you will find it like 10gb+ ..
Hi, to see exactly what is taking storage space, install "diskUsage" from the play store. Its free. If you cant track whats heavy on mb with that, i'll be damned.
Also, you have to know that out of 64gb, there is only around 58gb user available space.
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Hi, to see exactly what is taking storage space, install "diskUsage" from the play store. Its free. If you cant track whats heavy on mb with that, i'll be damned.
Also, you have to know that out of 64gb, there is only around 58gb user available space.
Out of an unknown reason after I rebooted by Galaxy S II, it just did a factory reset on its own.
So my S2 was bugging about something about the calendar storage crashing and the dialogue box won't stop popping up again and again no matter how many times I press OK. It won't let me do a proper reset as the dialogue box is in the way so I took out the battery and put it back in.
So it was booting as normal (Samsung Galaxy bootscreen, then the Siyah boot animation*, then finally the oval Samsung animation). But instead of my usual lockscreen, it greeted me with a setup screen as if I did a factory reset, even if I didn't do any special commands or gestures or button combos. So after going through the setup, as well as the tutorials, the factory default everything is now set.
But it gets weird. Real weird.
So all of the apps I downloaded are gone (except for the root apps when I did a root on my device*, which is no surprise as these are now embedded in the firmware or something). BUT my files (including the ones NOT on the SD card) are still there, as well as other personal files. Yes, personal files are still in there but the apps and settings are gone. Shouldn't those be wiped out after a factory reset?
So what's not wiped out are my personal files (pictures, videos, docs, etc.), my Contacts--which are saved on the SIM card, and the root apps*.
Ok, now for the technical information
Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 (Int'l Unlocked) 16 GB
2 GB Transcend microSD
Stock Battery (1650 mAh)
OEM Android Firmware (4.1.2 JB w/ Touchwix UX) even after the factory reset
*ROOT information
Siyah Kernel S2-v6.0beta5
flashed with Odin 3.07
CWM v3.15
This is the guide I used to root my device. I followed it carefully bit by bit.
YouTube Title: " How to Root Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) Jelly Bean 4.1.2 with Siyah Kernel "
I simply need an answer how this happen, as well as any knowledgeable set of information. I have scoured the web and I have no concrete answer and I hope the experienced people here can give an answer. This is just so unusual and it never happen to me before.
Also I should also point out I am a noob and this is my first time posting . I have already watched the "You are a noob on xda-developers" video and read the written guide and I hope I followed everything. If I have any mistakes, please inform me I would gladly appreciate it!
Same happened to me few times on stock jb.Didn't found any logical reasons for this.Everything at stock.
Ok... A few things :
1. I'm sorry for your loss of all the apps. I don't know why that happened, although I have seen it happen before. Take the chance to install only the apps you need, and you should find an improvement with battery life and speed.
2. It's normal that all of your photos, videos etc didn't get deleted. A factory reset will reset all the apps and settings, but all data on the internal or external sd card will be intact. The i9100 has an internal sd card partition built in (11.5GB for the 16GB model) whatever is on that won't disappear in a factory reset
Thanks for reading the rules and posting with logical information, it's nice to read for a change
Edit: sorry for not quoting you.. Instead, @MixEcoSystem now you'll get a notification :good:
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Thank You very much But now I have a new problem
Hopper8 said:
Ok... A few things :
1. I'm sorry for your loss of all the apps. I don't know why that happened, although I have seen it happen before. Take the chance to install only the apps you need, and you should find an improvement with battery life and speed.
2. It's normal that all of your photos, videos etc didn't get deleted. A factory reset will reset all the apps and settings, but all data on the internal or external sd card will be intact. The i9100 has an internal sd card partition built in (11.5GB for the 16GB model) whatever is on that won't disappear in a factory reset
Thanks for reading the rules and posting with logical information, it's nice to read for a change
Edit: sorry for not quoting you.. Instead, @MixEcoSystem now you'll get a notification :good:
Sent from a galaxy far, far away
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Now I havr most of my needed applicatoons are now installed, a notification occured. It is alerting me that I only have 200 MB free space of the 2 GB capacity of the system partition. Of coarse I just had a factory reset which should have cleared it in the first place. Before the unknown factory reset, I still had ~700 MB free space. Now I didn't even reinstall everything and it is already warning me. This is just weird.
Is there a way to check this system partition?
UPDATE: Now I can't install other new and large applications like evernote. Error 919 even if it downloaded 100%. Now I'm frustrated I have to go back to the restricted iOS of iPod touch 5th gen until we can fix this
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Now I havr most of my needed applicatoons are now installed, a notification occured. It is alerting me that I only have 200 MB free space of the 2 GB capacity of the system partition. Of coarse I just had a factory reset which should have cleared it in the first place. Before the unknown factory reset, I still had ~700 MB free space. Now I didn't even reinstall everything and it is already warning me. This is just weird.
Is there a way to check this system partition?
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Yes, it's possible to see what's in there, use this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.levelokment.storageanalyser and go preferences - options - and tick both boxes there.
To be honest, it sounds like it's time for a system clean. If you've already flashed siyah kernel, you'll be fine to do it. I actually did it myself yesterday :good: here's a screenshot of my storage after I cleaned it yesterday. I had so much rubbish floating around yesterday. Much better now
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In my signature is a link, in that link is a download link to a 3 part firmware. If you flash that via Odin, it will wipe your system partition and then you'll be good to go.
Once that's wiped, then I would re-root (siyah kernel is as good as any to do that), then flash a custom ROM based on a stock ROM, say NeatROM, as long as you want something similar to what you're already on. To flash that ROM, flash the zip file from siyah kernel recovery. NeatROM is a bit lighter than a full stock ROM with some bloat removed, but has a lot more customisation options
Hope that helps
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data/lost+found consuming 1.32 GB (75%) is well...found
Hopper8 said:
Yes, it's possible to see what's in there, use this app: and go preferences - options - and tick both boxes there.
To be honest, it sounds like it's time for a system clean. If you've already flashed siyah kernel, you'll be fine to do it. I actually did it myself yesterday :good: here's a screenshot of my storage after I cleaned it yesterday. I had so much rubbish floating around yesterday. Much better now
In my signature is a link, in that link is a download link to a 3 part firmware. If you flash that via Odin, it will wipe your system partition and then you'll be good to go.
Once that's wiped, then I would re-root (siyah kernel is as good as any to do that), then flash a custom ROM based on a stock ROM, say NeatROM, as long as you want something similar to what you're already on. To flash that ROM, flash the zip file from siyah kernel recovery. NeatROM is a bit lighter than a full stock ROM with some bloat removed, but has a lot more customisation options
Hope that helps
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After using storage analyzer and enabling it to access root, " lost+found " folder inside /data is using 75% of the system partition with the 2nd consumer to be dalvil-cache at only 160 MB. I think this is where all my apps went because of its name. Is this a recoverable thing and I could restore everything like before the reset occurred OR is it just "dump" that can only be safely erased?
Also thanks for the ROM recommendation :good: , but I think I'll stick with TouchWiz since I am kind of a fan of it despite its high memory use I might go for a KitKat build in the future
Note: I had to remove the links cause I haven't reached the 10 post requirement
Neat ROM is touchwiz, its a stock custom rom, its touchwiz minus high memory use, the only way to use stock rom imo.
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After using storage analyzer and enabling it to access root, " lost+found " folder inside /data is using 75% of the system partition with the 2nd consumer to be dalvil-cache at only 160 MB. I think this is where all my apps went because of its name. Is this a recoverable thing and I could restore everything like before the reset occurred OR is it just "dump" that can only be safely erased?
Also thanks for the ROM recommendation :good: , but I think I'll stick with TouchWiz since I am kind of a fan of it despite its high memory use I might go for a KitKat build in the future
Note: I had to remove the links cause I haven't reached the 10 post requirement
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Hmm. I've never seen that folder before... I really doubt you need it! But maybe try a quick google search before you delete it? If it was me... It would be gone already but then again, I have stuffed a few things up before. Best to be sure what you're doing before, not after you do it
And, as the guy above me said, NeatROM is touchwiz... Just without all the rubbish apps and a lot more customisation. Think of it as stock touchwiz on steroids but yes, I'm on kitkat now. I personally don't like touchwiz. Don't ask for ROM recommendations though, it's against forum rules. I merely suggested NeatROM as a way to get some extra space for your system partition :good:
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Hi. I'm currently running Android 8.0.0, build 34.4.A.0.364 with the following modifications:
I'm using a US carrier (Ting), but I have the EE UK ROM flashed through flashtool in order to get the fingerprint sensor working.
I'm running a rooted kernel provided by YasuHamed
I have Magisk installed
I flashed TWRP to recovery
My phone works great as-is, but OTA updates fail. They get announced, but if I try to install it downloads successfully, appears to start installing successfully, but eventually just stops, then advertises that the update is available for download again.
So here's my question - how should I upgrade my phone? I know that the most thorough method is to use flashtool to wipe and then reflash the latest version, but re-installing and re-configuring everything, even with backups, is too time-consuming for that to be a regular process.
What are my options for upgrading without wiping my data and/or internal storage? Is there a way to obtain the OTA update files for standalone installation? Is there a way to flash the latest release through flasthtool without losing all of my data? Maybe I can "unroot" my phone, then install the OTA update? Any other options?
I'm obviously not only person to have this problem. How are others dealing with it, and what (generally) works best?
Thanks!
sirs
1.once the BOOT is UNLOCKED , OTA will always fail
2. the only way to update your xperias are now via flashtool
3. if you flash with below configuration, everthing will be wiped , under WIPE area if you don't TICK these boxes, flashtool will not reset your phone. it will just replace your necessary sin files with new ones. , however such flashing always results in higher batter drain (personal experience)
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4. if you have your TA.img, after rooting, lock you bootloader again and you will start reciving OTA. but after any major OTA, kernel will be updated and you will have to unlock your bootloader again to gain root access. , EveryTime when you relock and lock you bootloader device wipes everything. (so basically its a same thing whats happening to you now)
Thanks! I tried re-locking my bootloader in the past, but as you pointed out you lose root when doing that, which defeats the whole point of unlocking in the first place. So, that's not really an option.
I'll try using flashtool with the options you mentioned unchecked. Would it perhaps make sense to still wipe everything except userdata (and also disable the reset options under Misc TA)? or would that not buy much in terms of reliability?
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Thanks! I tried re-locking my bootloader in the past, but as you pointed out you lose root when doing that, which defeats the whole point of unlocking in the first place. So, that's not really an option.
I'll try using flashtool with the options you mentioned unchecked. Would it perhaps make sense to still wipe everything except userdata (and also disable the reset options under Misc TA)? or would that not buy much in terms of reliability?
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under WIPE section
I always tick either ALL boxes , or NONE, because once i tried skipping one of the ticks under wipe and sony kept asking me password. sony stockrom itself locked out of the internal storage. I guess its Master Reset , or rese without reasons are the key triggers of wiping encrytion key also.
you may experiment combination of these ticks, keeping in mind that you may have to reflash, reset your deice from zero, hence take backups (always) (even if you are 100% sure of what you are doing, still take backup)
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under WIPE section
I always tick either ALL boxes , or NONE, because once i tried skipping one of the ticks under wipe and sony kept asking me password. sony stockrom itself locked out of the internal storage. I guess its Master Reset , or rese without reasons are the key triggers of wiping encrytion key also.
you may experiment combination of these ticks, keeping in mind that you may have to reflash, reset your deice from zero, hence take backups (always) (even if you are 100% sure of what you are doing, still take backup)
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For Xperias, what's the best method to backup ALL app data (Play Store and unknown source apps) and all the other things not explicitly listed?
Xperia's own Backup tool? (the PC Companion backup vs on-device?)
Titanium?
No cloud for me btw... I'm also talking about app data like the data downloaded by games after their installation, because which games these days don't download additional data, and no, not just the download that may even happen via Play Store, but only as soon as you launch the app. (guess it's the dev's own server, however the app has been taken down ever since, so without a backup it will only keep looking for data that it can't fetch... tried with Titanium to transfer from an older Android device to my Xperia X)
Boy, really missing the beauty of a no-BS all-encompassing backup solution like on iOS, even though I fully expect that to be on very shaky legs as well...
And what about those three boxes under the wipe section? For example, what does MASTER-RESET do?
Sorry for the many questions.
Glassed Silver said:
For Xperias, what's the best method to backup ALL app data (Play Store and unknown source apps) and all the other things not explicitly listed?
Xperia's own Backup tool? (the PC Companion backup vs on-device?)
Titanium?
No cloud for me btw... I'm also talking about app data like the data downloaded by games after their installation, because which games these days don't download additional data, and no, not just the download that may even happen via Play Store, but only as soon as you launch the app. (guess it's the dev's own server, however the app has been taken down ever since, so without a backup it will only keep looking for data that it can't fetch... tried with Titanium to transfer from an older Android device to my Xperia X)
Boy, really missing the beauty of a no-BS all-encompassing backup solution like on iOS, even though I fully expect that to be on very shaky legs as well...
And what about those three boxes under the wipe section? For example, what does MASTER-RESET do?
Sorry for the many questions.
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1. I am not a GAMER but I believe for the games, A service called Google play Games saves Everything about your games saved. so even if you have different mobile, same google account you will start your game from same point which was left out on device 1 .
2. I have never tried iOS so I cannot comment on that but I would definitely add (from what i have seen on youtube videos and read online) that iOS has basic notion in mind which is let us make our users tension free and we will do EVERYTHING for them. now this notion for me means, someone taking my freedom away and controling my decicions, (irrespective of what noble cause behind) where ANDROID basically GIVE MORE CONTROL to me so when it does, it also expect me to know what this freedom means?. I will have to be detailed oriented and I must cover all bases manually. Backups, Rooting, Flashing on my terms, Flashing different roms with different launders, Cloud base options, gaining control over android paritions to alter core structure of device.etc. Android offers more for sure!
3. Master Reset will wipe your login credentials , apps, and encryption keys, hence when device boot, you will have to setup everything again
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1. I am not a GAMER but I believe for the games, A service called Google play Games saves Everything about your games saved. so even if you have different mobile, same google account you will start your game from same point which was left out on device 1 .
2. I have never tried iOS so I cannot comment on that but I would definitely add (from what i have seen on youtube videos and read online) that iOS has basic notion in mind which is let us make our users tension free and we will do EVERYTHING for them. now this notion for me means, someone taking my freedom away and controling my decicions, (irrespective of what noble cause behind) where ANDROID basically GIVE MORE CONTROL to me so when it does, it also expect me to know what this freedom means?. I will have to be detailed oriented and I must cover all bases manually. Backups, Rooting, Flashing on my terms, Flashing different roms with different launders, Cloud base options, gaining control over android paritions to alter core structure of device.etc. Android offers more for sure!
3. Master Reset will wipe your login credentials , apps, and encryption keys, hence when device boot, you will have to setup everything again
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With all due respect, but I think I failed to express myself properly to get it all across:
1) As I said, I'm not talking about cloud-solutions, I'm not talking about game progress, not all games are part of Google Play Games and other kinds of apps like to download data from third-party servers as well.
2 Why do you think I'm using both by now? because I want that control, but I also like simplicity to whatever extend I can get it. I don't want a forced way of Android telling me to use XYZ, I want a way I can choose and that way needs to fulfill certain criteria, such as a complete no BS backup solution that is incremental.
Just because I want control doesn't mean I'm stoked about DIYing everything, otherwise I might as well hire an intern and direct by orders. :laugh:
So all I can do is refer back to my questions. Hell forget I ever mentioned iOS. I'm too chatty anyways which often distracts from the actual point. Sorry for that.
3) Wow, well good that I asked it seems! So I leave ALL boxes unchecked, right? Both wipes and all resets? I surely don't want to retype a million passwords again for all the stuff where LastPass doesn't have my credentials stored (yet).
Thanks a lot for your time, really appreciated.
Hi. My understanding is that the most thorough way to backup an android phone is to do a nandroid backup. If you search google you'll find plenty of info about that. If you have TWRP flashed to your recovery partition, you can fairly easily kick off a nandroid backup directly from within TWRP, though TWRP seems to add some proprietary extensions that make recovery only possibly with TWRP.
That'll give you your all-encompassing backup.
The problem with nandroid is that it's, well, all-encompassing. If you restore, you revert back to that original state. You can't use it to backup your data before an upgrade, for example, then restore under the new version. I haven't found a great solution for that yet, but my current solution is oandbackup. This backs up APKs and data for all user (and system, if desired) applications. This can then be copied to an external SD card or to another computer or whatever, then used to restore your apps and data after wipe/reset or upgrade. I setup a couple scheduled jobs to backup all user data and newly installed apks nightly, then have a job in a separate sync program to copy that to my NAS. No cloud necessary.
The main caveat here is that, because oandbackup is app-centric, it does not include system preferences, accounts, SMS messages, etc. All of that will need to be manually reconfigured or backed up with another app. Recovery, therefore, still takes some time (hence my request about upgrading without requiring a full wipe), but all of your important data should be preserved with this method.
Definitely not recommending this as the best approach, but it works well enough for me and avoids any dependency on online services.. Interested in any other approaches people may wish to share.