Hello everyone.
I bought my Z2 from Amazon.com. So, As you know, We can replace the phones in 30 days.
I'm in USA for now. And I'll return my hometown after 25 days later from now on.
Here is my problem:
I bought the Z2, and I was aware of that issues that "Heating, Gap between speaker, self-cracking issues etc". But Still, I bought It because I listened my heart and the Z2 the is best phone btw.
The Problem that is blows my mind : The Over-Heating. I'm not talking about the "4K Recording over heating" I know that I have this issue and I don't care about this.1080p is still good.
The thing that I care about, the phone is getting warmer after using 10-15 minutes.
For example; I tested In room temperature, 20-25 C, I've played the game "Hungry Shark" about 10 minutes. Phone got warmed but it's acceptable. After 5 minutes more, It was like I heated the phone under sun and I don't like that.
Even in browsing, Facebook, whatsapp, or other applications, my phone gets warmer too quickly. And while charging, even without using my phone, It gets warmer a little bit.
Anyone who has the same issue or this is really normal ? Should I go for a replacement?
Because I've upgraded z2 from my retired Desire HD and It never get that much warmer.
I appreciated. Thanks.
I'd day that's completely fine. My Z2 heats up quite easily to. Battery is atm 38 degrees and I'm only on WiFi and using XDA app. Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it from getting damaged.
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Asus Padfone 2
Sony Xperia Z2
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antti91 said:
Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it
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Glass is an insulator, metal is a conductor other than that +1.
Please bear in mind you've upgraded from a 1ghz single core CPU to a quad core monster, I'd be astounded if it wasn't getting appreciably hotter.
Its gonna make a very high tech hand warmer in winter time, thats a bonus
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I'd day that's completely fine. My Z2 heats up quite easily to. Battery is atm 38 degrees and I'm only on WiFi and using XDA app. Glass conducts heat much worse than for example metal (or so I think ). Also since the phone is waterproof and thus sealed it heats up more easily. I doubt that you have to worry about the heat, unless the phone gets really uncomfortable to hold. If it gets too hot it will throttle down and ultimately shut down to prevent it from getting damaged.
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Samsung Galaxy S I9000
Asus Padfone 2
Sony Xperia Z2
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I really appreciated your answer. I hope that it is true that there is some kind of "over-heat protection" or something. But still I'm thinking about it because many other phones, I mean LG G3, they don't have such kind of issue.I mean I've never heard about such kind of thing on forums.
I don't want to say goodbye to my Z2 because I really love the feeling of it. But I have to decide before I returned back to my hometown.After that, it'll be impossible to get a replacement. I want to emphasise that after 4 years, I upgraded my phone and I'm not that kind of person who changes his phone after using it 6 months .
I want to use that phone like for a long time. And something brand-new which is overheating... Makes me think.
Thank you for other answers, and that bonus feauture make me laugh
So, Any other answers from Z2 users ?
I thought u can only return your phone within 30 days if it hasn't been used?. Are u after a replacement or refund?. I got mine from amazon uk, and also have heating issues. My 6yr old always complains it gets to hot when he plays games, never had that issue with my 5s.
gibbo82 said:
I thought u can only return your phone within 30 days if it hasn't been used?. Are u after a replacement or refund?. I got mine from amazon uk, and also have heating issues. My 6yr old always complains it gets to hot when he plays games, never had that issue with my 5s.
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You can return your phone in 30 days. That's what's written in return policy.
I don't know what I'm after at.I couldn't decide what to do. But it seems that everybody has that issue.It's quite easy to heat Z2.
I've got mine from amazon .com. But the good news is that I bought a case for my handset and at least I don't feel the heat so much.
Btw, What is your batch number? Could you check yours ?
Mine is 14w28.
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I really appreciated your answer. I hope that it is true that there is some kind of "over-heat protection" or something. But still I'm thinking about it because many other phones, I mean LG G3, they don't have such kind of issue.I mean I've never heard about such kind of thing on forums.
I don't want to say goodbye to my Z2 because I really love the feeling of it. But I have to decide before I returned back to my hometown.After that, it'll be impossible to get a replacement. I want to emphasise that after 4 years, I upgraded my phone and I'm not that kind of person who changes his phone after using it 6 months .
I want to use that phone like for a long time. And something brand-new which is overheating... Makes me think.
Thank you for other answers, and that bonus feauture make me laugh
So, Any other answers from Z2 users ?
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The G3 has overheating problems. My G3 idles at 55degC and during gaming It got very,very hot. It also dropped frames during gaming due to the thermal throttling.
In comparison my Z2 is cool.
I've not had this issue with my z2. It maybe because I don't play games and its winter but general browsing and string HD over LTE only make KT slightly warm. And obviously it only gets warm towards the top where I expected the processor to be. People shouldn't expect processors to stay warm. Even the latest Intel processor can idle at 30 bit the minute you put stress on it, its gonna jump several degrees. This should be a given for any processor
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You can return your phone in 30 days. That's what's written in return policy.
I don't know what I'm after at.I couldn't decide what to do. But it seems that everybody has that issue.It's quite easy to heat Z2.
I've got mine from amazon .com. But the good news is that I bought a case for my handset and at least I don't feel the heat so much.
Btw, What is your batch number? Could you check yours ?
Mine is 14w28.
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I'm pretty sure you can only return it in a unused condition.
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I have been looking to purchase the galaxy s 2 for some time now. I've read about alot of problems with the phone but I played with the at&t version and it is super fast, beautiful screen, perfect size and has a great camera. The biggest thing that's keeping me from purchasing it is the audio quality from the headphones. Is it as good as the Iphone 4 or Zune HD(which is my favorite music player) from your experience? Next, hows the battery life compared to the iphone 4 which has great battery life and the only android phone that matched it from my experience was the nexus one. If I do decide to purchase the galaxy s 2, should I get the international version or the at&t version as Im getting them both off-contract. One more question, what kind of 3g speeds are you guys seeing in NYC with the international version and at&t version? Thanks
Now is not the time to get a Galaxy S II in my opinion. Wait for the Prime to come out and either decide on Prime or 4S
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My brother just told me that he can get the at&t galaxy s 2 for only $430 so I'll just buy it and if I dont like it, I can sell it for 450-500. I'm really hyped for the prime but I dont know when they are gonna release it and I want to get a new phone over my iphone 4. I dont want the 4S as Im kind of bored by IOS and it was barely an upgrade over the Iphone 4 and I was disappointed, but IOS 5 looks nice.
Wait for prime bro'.
And if I was in New York, I'd sold mine to you.
I recommend you to wait mate, there are some problems with galaxy s2 that still has not been corrected (im running 2.3.4 because i havent got an update few weeks ago greater than that on kies).
The biggest problem with this phone is the retarded overheating, it overheats ALOT when recording at 1080p and playing a decent ammount of games, (i experience overheating issues mostly in 3D games like asphalt 5, Motor Academy, dungeons defenders and more. The overheating issue is a huge downside mainly because it cannot let you enjoy your game without feeling that boiling effect on your fingers and the fact that i worry most of the times for it to not melt the circuitry board inside, like it has happened before with other people (ive only read 1 guy having this problem so far).
But there are also other problems, the oled screen still blurrs, its faster than an lcd but blurr is still there, viewing angles shifts hue to a bit of blue, if u put solid colors like pure gray on whole screen, you will notice the color displays with a different contrast on different parts of screen, the camera displays a pink circle on the screen when in medium lighting conditions viewing white walls or other objects that occupies the whole screen.
Speaker quality is average, there might be more but i cant remember them right now.
This is the best phone i know right now but i recommend you to wait for a better one, hopefully without these problems, if u cant wait and rly like oled then this might be the best one so far.
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I recommend you to wait mate, there are some problems with galaxy s2 that still has not been corrected (im running 2.3.4 because i havent got an update few weeks ago greater than that on kies).
The biggest problem with this phone is the retarded overheating, it overheats ALOT when recording at 1080p and playing a decent ammount of games, (i experience overheating issues mostly in 3D games like asphalt 5, Motor Academy, dungeons defenders and more. The overheating issue is a huge downside mainly because it cannot let you enjoy your game without feeling that boiling effect on your fingers and the fact that i worry most of the times for it to not melt the circuitry board inside, like it has happened before with other people (ive only read 1 guy having this problem so far).
But there are also other problems, the oled screen still blurrs, its faster than an lcd but blurr is still there, viewing angles shifts hue to a bit of blue, if u put solid colors like pure gray on whole screen, you will notice the color displays with a different contrast on different parts of screen, the camera displays a pink circle on the screen when in medium lighting conditions viewing white walls or other objects that occupies the whole screen.
Speaker quality is average, there might be more but i cant remember them right now.
This is the best phone i know right now but i recommend you to wait for a better one, hopefully without these problems, if u cant wait and rly like oled then this might be the best one so far.
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WHAT? Dude if you have all those problems then you should return your device and get a replacement because i got none of them. This phone is seriously phone of the year and this is my first samsung device. If sammy keeps this up then i am in for good. And about screen getting real hot... I got that problem in the first weeks but then after an update the problem went away. Using lates villainrom now. But like every other dual-core smartphones the phone gets hot when you use it for a long time... Again this happens to every dual-core smartphones as the cpu uses alot of power. And to the op, I seriously recommend you to get this device, unless you're thinking about getting the prime then you should wait a few more weeks. But i dont think that the prime will be much better then SGS2 except better screen.
Umm i don't think you can call it overheating for the sgs 2. In the sense that it is not overheating, it is simply expending the amount of heat proportionate to the amount of work being done. it's like when you play crisis 2 on your computer, your computer gets really hot right? Well an average computer per say, not a prepped, or modded one.
So like the computer, the sgs 2 is bound to heat up since you are forcing it to perform at such high levels, meaning big 3d games, 1080p, etc. To summarize, with great power comes great heat.
Which brings me to another speculation, how bad will the prime or iphone4s heat up? if the Mali does this bad, I'm wondering how the sgx543 will do since it has atleast twice the performance.
Anyways onto your own matter, I'd rather wait than get a half year old device despite the enormous pros.
The SGS2 is kinda cheap now, and it will be even cheaper when the Prime will be out. This phone has good specs, it won't grow old that fast, so i wouldn't go mental for whatever comes next. Anyway, i'd wait a little if i were you
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Umm i don't think you can call it overheating for the sgs 2. In the sense that it is not overheating, it is simply expending the amount of heat proportionate to the amount of work being done. it's like when you play crisis 2 on your computer, your computer gets really hot right? Well an average computer per say, not a prepped, or modded one.
So like the computer, the sgs 2 is bound to heat up since you are forcing it to perform at such high levels, meaning big 3d games, 1080p, etc. To summarize, with great power comes great heat.
Which brings me to another speculation, how bad will the prime or iphone4s heat up? if the Mali does this bad, I'm wondering how the sgx543 will do since it has atleast twice the performance.
Anyways onto your own matter, I'd rather wait than get a half year old device despite the enormous pros.
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Well then, im not sure what u call melting the circuitry board, but i call it overheating.
as for whoever told me that i should change the phone because someone else got none of those issues, i had changed it 2 times and all 3 i had, had the exact same problems, you probably dont get overheating because you either dont use it for the same apps or games as i do or u have possibly underclocked it or have some sort of battery saving application, or maybe even an unnoficiall firmware, these problems are part of all s2 phones it has been checked plenty of times by plenty of experienced people in this forum, they are nothing new.
PS: i doubt iphone will have such issues, maybe their battery will explode again or maybe it will loose signal if holded with left hand, but i doubt itll have overheating issues, there are some dual cores out there and none have such issue as sgs2 has, it has nothing to do with it beying stressed to much, its either a hardware building fault or a software issue.
The S2 is pure gold still when Prime is out, the phone got no problem at all IF and only IF you follow the root instructions/rom installation instructions step by step, if you forget something, you probably end up with problems. (most forgotten is to install kies drivers or to not shut down kies while flashing with odin).
Prime is gonna be the top phone, so it can be worth wait.. but sure the S2 (2nd best phone by then) will cost about 200 less.
I bought the SC2 right after the iPhone 4s was announced, not regreting, and don't think the the prime will be much better, I probably buy the s3 when it comes out next year.
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Buddy just go for the phone that YOU want...Galaxy S2 is for me a top top phone..dual core gorgeous screen and memory is great....regarding audio i cant find any faults with it..you have different equalizer settings and you can adjust it to your liking....
regarding the overheating issues i have occured them as well when i first got my phone....since ihave rooted it though and have got my custom rom and kernel that i am using that has gone away now and im experiencing great battery life....like the post above the next handset for me will be the s3....
iphone 4s if the screen was a tad bigger i would of gone for that....but as i said if you cant wait for the prime then s2 is the one for you buddy
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Well then, im not sure what u call melting the circuitry board, but i call it overheating.
as for whoever told me that i should change the phone because someone else got none of those issues, i had changed it 2 times and all 3 i had, had the exact same problems, you probably dont get overheating because you either dont use it for the same apps or games as i do or u have possibly underclocked it or have some sort of battery saving application, or maybe even an unnoficiall firmware, these problems are part of all s2 phones it has been checked plenty of times by plenty of experienced people in this forum, they are nothing new.
PS: i doubt iphone will have such issues, maybe their battery will explode again or maybe it will loose signal if holded with left hand, but i doubt itll have overheating issues, there are some dual cores out there and none have such issue as sgs2 has, it has nothing to do with it beying stressed to much, its either a hardware building fault or a software issue.
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Well overheating for me means it is expending so much heat whilst doing so little. Meaning it is heating up even though it is on standby or screen off.
Melting the circuit board I think is natural if you expect it to handle so much. Because when the GPU or processor demands so much power/electricity in proportional to the process, and the process is a big one, then of course it will need a lot of power. And where does the power go? Well the wasted becomes heat. And personally i don't think you can compare other past dual cores as none are nearly as good in architecture as the exynos or in fact perform as close, side from the A5.
And yes I do experience great heat when I play games like dead space, dungeon defenders, and so on. But i expect it since the phone is trying its utmost best to perform. Meaning it is trying its best to play at 60fps or more when it isn't needed. Now a solution maybe to cap the GPU and CPU to only produce frames at say 24fps or so. That may fix "overheating".
Note however that above is sincerely speculation as i have no idea how the SoC operates.
My personal experience after 4 weeks with the S2:
It´s great as a fast multimedia device (great images from Camera, HD Video recording and playback of movies and films, internet browsing), but if you plan to use it MUCH as a phone stay away... speaker quality is quite poor, you may experience trouble with echoes due to failing noise redcution, volume with headset is very low.
Other MAJOR downsides i found, compared to other droid phones:
Wlan signal strength very poor, around 20% lower signal rates that LG Optimus. Also 3G signal strenth is poorer than LG. Really disappointing.
AMOLED display is overrated, colors of images are distorted and very unnatural (reds, blues) compared to standard LCD (i´m a photographer so i know how my images should look).
Ob btw,if you plan to use the S2 as a GPS car navigation device forget it, because the battery will be charged at a max rate of 650 mAH even if your car charger can deliver more - at least with Navigon your battery will drop even when charging! What a joke!
Long story short: don´t buy unless you can get it for under 200 USD.
Nexus Prime. Simple.
Or Nokia WP7 if you can wait.
wait for primee buddy, i'd do it
Might wanna look at this phone. Its has all the latest technology packed into a sexy slim stylish design.
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Sparksltd said:
Might wanna look at this phone. Its has all the latest technology packed into a sexy slim stylish design.
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You're on to something there!
- Also useful for hand to hand combat.
- privacy, no one will be trying to snoop a look at your screen.
- outdoor hobby requirements, you'll never be afraid of doing an army assault course knee deep in mud with it in your pocket.
My sgs2 , while good, isn't great at meeting the above points.
Go with what agrees with you.
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You're on to something there!
- Also useful for hand to hand combat.
- privacy, no one will be trying to snoop a look at your screen.
- outdoor hobby requirements, you'll never be afraid of doing an army assault course knee deep in mud with it in your pocket.
My sgs2 , while good, isn't great at meeting the above points.
Go with what agrees with you.
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Yea I read somewhere it can be used as a baseball bat too. I wish my gs2 could do that . I loose count the amount of times I've left mine at home while out shopping and I've spotted some chavs.
I belive that the nexus Prime will be on pair wih the Galaxy S2
I heard that sometimes 4K makes the phone overheat but what about under general usage?
My Z gets quite hot after web browsing n stuff and my back panel has lifted near the camera... IDK if the Z1 had this problem or not but i dont want to suck again for a serious problem like this.
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I heard that sometimes 4K makes the phone overheat but what about under general usage?
My Z gets quite hot after web browsing n stuff and my back panel has lifted near the camera... IDK if the Z1 had this problem or not but i dont want to suck again for a serious problem like this.
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Well , what ive noticed so far is when you use the camera it heats up. Even when your just taking pictures, once you use it for a bit it heats up then tells you to close the camera app.
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Well , what ive noticed so far is when you use the camera it heats up. Even when your just taking pictures, once you use it for a bit it heats up then tells you to close the camera app.
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And apart from the camera?!
@ SkyS1gn - It is definitely warm, but I wouldn't say it was hot. It also cools down very quickly when you stop what you were doing.
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@ SkyS1gn - It is definitely warm, but I wouldn't say it was hot. It also cools down very quickly when you stop what you were doing.
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Thanks, i hope sony taught from their fault and the Z2 wont suffer from bakpanel-lifting issue!
for the record my galaxy note (no z2 until tomorrow) gets quite warm when i use it for browsing, gaming etc....... my galaxy s before that got quite warm also..... come to think of it my sisters s4 n her fellas moto razr x get quite warm when they're fiddling with them....... i would be more concerned if i bought a new phone and it didnt heat up during use.
Having said that tho, the back lifting definately doesnt sound right, pix?
Edit, sorry thought you was talking bout a z2
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for the record my galaxy note (no z2 until tomorrow) gets quite warm when i use it for browsing, gaming etc....... my galaxy s before that got quite warm also..... come to think of it my sisters s4 n her fellas moto razr x get quite warm when they're fiddling with them....... i would be more concerned if i bought a new phone and it didnt heat up during use.
Having said that tho, the back lifting definately doesnt sound right, pix?
Edit, sorry thought you was talking bout a z2
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Nope its an issue with the Z, idk about the Z1 or Z2 but Z2 hasnt got that plastic strap around the edge of the back like the Z1, Z2 is more like the Z, just the edge and the glass, thats why some pll see gaps...
But im 99.8% sure they fixed the glue with the Z1 and the Z2. Z's nfc springs are a little bit higher than it should be so its constantly pressing the back panel away + considering the heat = made the back panel to lift a bit around the cam area. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/general/discussionxperia-z-glass-coming-unglued-t2304680
I've been using the z2 for about 2 weeks, I personally find that it gets warm rather quickly. However most people (especially fanboys) would just say that all phones get hot or ridiculous stuff like you can use water to cool the phone since its waterproof. The phone gets rather warm in a few minutes even when you're just browsing, messaging or meddling with the settings. Playing graphics intensive games drive the temperature up really high, to a point that it is hot to touch. I understand that the phone is packed with awesome hardwares and that huge screen in such a slim body, which are probably why temperature gets so high. But when I use the HTC M8 or Iphone 5s for similar activities, they just dont get as hot, and definitely not as fast. However as mentioned, it cools down as pretty quickly too. I feel that this is something Sony can definitely do better in.
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I've been using the z2 for about 2 weeks, I personally find that it gets warm rather quickly. However most people (especially fanboys) would just say that all phones get hot or ridiculous stuff like you can use water to cool the phone since its waterproof. The phone gets rather warm in a few minutes even when you're just browsing, messaging or meddling with the settings. Playing graphics intensive games drive the temperature up really high, to a point that it is hot to touch. I understand that the phone is packed with awesome hardwares and that huge screen in such a slim body, which are probably why temperature gets so high. But when I use the HTC M8 or Iphone 5s for similar activities, they just dont get as hot, and definitely not as fast. However as mentioned, it cools down as pretty quickly too. I feel that this is something Sony can definitely do better in.
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I think "hotness" is subjectif. What is hot for you might be normal for me.
When can we speak of overheating in degrees?
Mine gets only up to 31 degree by browsing, games or camera. And not very quick too. And don't forget that iPhone hasn't got very powerful hardware. But we got just up to 23 degree in spring. Where do you live?
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It does get hot very easily, thats one of the first things I noticed about this phone. But I have yet to experience any issues as a result of it, so in all I wouldnt say its really a problem you should worry about.
Hey,
I was consider to get the HTC One M8 but then I came across the Sony Xperia Z2. I was looking at the feature set of both. I went and got a feel of both the devices. My only real concern that came about would be the development aspect of the Z2. I love to tweak around with my phones.
The other issue that hit me is the speakers on the Z2. I havent had a chance to play with the Z2 in the sound department but I did have a chance with the HTC One M8. Does the speakers feel good to listen to?
Any thoughts would be helpful
Well opinion wise on the Z2 , the speakers arent perfect but thats because of the fact the phone is waterproof, everything else is amazing
Development has started slow for Z2 alike most xperias, give it a couple months for it too speed up, we already have official CM11 and TWRP, there should be more to come
And not to mention all mods for 4.4 will most likely work on other xperias
(this does disinclude kernels and roms)
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I have both devices i think that the M8 is better in design and the sound quality is better both speakers and earplugs wise.
The camera on the Z2 is waaaaaaayyy better then the M8 and i personally think that the system ui is better as well i am not a fan of sense it just to heavy.
And custom development always takes a tad longer on sony devices. I've had both devices and i'm still not sure which one is better .....:silly:
i have z2 and love it. Overall i feel m8 is great but z2 has a slight edge in all departments other than sound. Sound is awesome on z2 but m8 is better.
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If you want a single device for all your needs go for Z2.
Want only a smartphone and have a separate professional camera? Go for M8.
Here's a comparison video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKCgqeVdZ3w
Well as far as I see. The sony xperia has a pretty gud feature set. I know the development is a wee bit slow. But considering the fact, I think I just might go for the Z2.
I haven't got a chance to play with M8 but I have had M7 for 5 days before I decided to sell it and married Sony Z2.
Originally, I came from Apple 5s and to be honest the camera on HTC One M7 was horrible. I went out for a persimmon picking trip and I took my brandnew HTC M7 for photo shooting and I was shocked by the photo quality, blueish, dark, blrury and incorrect colour. Even my gf was shocked with my new toy's camera performance. Overall HTC was a good phone, sleek design, study and iron cold feeling, nice and sharp screen and beautiful UI. But after I sold my HTC M7 and bought the Sony Z2 and I must say it is one of the best phone I have even owned. Fast, beautiful scree large screen, simpe UI and super long lasting battery. I am a heavy user and apple 5s could not keep up with me as long as Sony Z2. Anyway, from Apply 5S -> HTC M7 -> Sony Z2, I am really happy to stay with Sony for a long time. And it is my first Sony device I have ever used since I was born ...lol
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
valdigre said:
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
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The one you tried in vodafone store was probably on for whole day i.e., screen, speaker, demo... therefore it was already hot prior your camera shooting trial. I have no problem with my device. Trust me HTC M7 heat problem is a lot worse due to its metal case. Sony used combine materials including plastic, glass and aluminum therefore heat is not as bad as metal housing in general.
Worst case scenario, it is waterproof so just give it a shower, will help to reduce heat issue
Feels like I might just get the Z2. Ijust have the issue of the dev community for the device. Since its a new device, I have a feeling that the dev community will be strong but that we shall see.
Plus me getting the Z2 depends on my stupid carrier keeping it in stock xD. They released the device here and with 2 days all the carriers ran out of stock. So lets hope I get my hands one xD
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
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I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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Camera is set to shutdown at 65c cpu temp, which is nothing in todays technology. So no, it wont affect battery or something else. Also what do you expect, you make 4k recording, turn temperatures to hell and then take pictures, outcome clear to me. If you start by taking pictures that wont happen. And m8 is not a factor here, its probably imposible to make any smartphone overheat by taking 4mpixel photos lol.
valdigre said:
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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No offence here but really you buy a smartphone just to shoot 4K?
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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vipaman said:
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
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I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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I was inclined to the M8 in the beginning but now I feel this device is better in terms of hardware as compared to Sony.
Development is real slow but thats expect from Sony devices. As far as stock goes, Its not bad but can definitely be improved. Sony actually did a really amazing job with the software.
Believe me you will love the Z2
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
Hope I helped you out.
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That is the thing, the phone is not expected to get hot when doing not so really intensive tasks like browsing, downloading, or recording hd video/taking pictures... I had Galaxy S 1, 2, HTC One, Note 3, played with M8, Galaxy S5 and those phones only get "warm" when sat nav or comparable heavy task...
If your phone gets very warm at home with AC on, than what do you expect will happen when you try to use it outside at 35 degrees in your country?
Nothing like this would happen with any other competition's phone, seriously... It must be a design flaw, those problems were present with previous Z's as well if my memory serves me right.
No, I don't care about 4k video recording, I would survive this overheating problem if the phone overheated only in this case, but overheating when taking pictures after doing some light intensive tasks? Unacceptable...
I am pretty certain it can survive for a long time. The thing that gets hot is the glass not the metal frame. And when it's hot it's not hot as in u touch and u r gonna burn yourself.
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I have the same problem with my phone. So basically i have a white brick now. It works when your not doing anything with it. But trying to use facebook, chrome or any other app the screen stops working.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z5-Z5-Compact-Z5-Premium/z5-compact-touchscreen-acting-weird/td-p/1043339
Major ouch, especially seeing the number of people who reported the problem!
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So far it's only owners of the white model, is that just a fluke?
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Seems bad. Very bad. But the thread on talk.sonymobile.com is full with owners of white ones so it seems a major problem with that batch
Unfortunately, the consistency of the reports on the lag, slowness, touch issues and the blurry left corner camera problem, made me decide not to buy this phone anymore. Terribly sad, as I love the compacts.
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tudork said:
Unfortunately, the consistency of the reports on the lag, slowness, touch issues and the blurry left corner camera problem, made me decide not to buy this phone anymore. Terribly sad, as I love the compacts.
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Wait till Sony delivers.
My only issue with the Z5C is some very rare stutter, else i am really satisfied with it.
The situation should improve with some incoming software updates.
let's be honest - 90% of normal users wont even care about those issues. i can best sony is aware about those issues and will fix this in the next upgrade. sony would be stupid company to admit that they have released phone with some issues.
this is unfortunately how everyone are making phones now - i am fed up with all those bend, blur, melt gates and will use my phone as a phone with nice camera and not for using it as my work tool
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let's be honest - 90% of normal users wont even care about those issues. i can best sony is aware about those issues and will fix this in the next upgrade. sony would be stupid company to admit that they have released phone with some issues.
this is unfortunately how everyone are making phones now - i am fed up with all those bend, blur, melt gates and will use my phone as a phone with nice camera and not for using it as my work tool
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Sony is not a good company, they are unethical and would rather endanger people than fix an issue they were even told about before they used the 810 processor.
I know this is a bit late and all, but well done on the choice not to get a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact, not only is the device flaw filled, but the Sony Support will blame anyone but themselves, what happened to me is i got a new Z5c which was to replace my Z1c which was an amazing phone, and i noticed from the start the phone was hotter when running, with each new OS / FW update the problem seemed to get worse and worse, after 2 weeks there was the first big update, i think its the next android version as the file was 1GB, less than a week later, after leaving my Z5c on my bed not even charging while i went to the shops, i returned to find the rear glass cracked, just above where the CPU is situated, i contacted Sony Support, and they said that since there was not only 1 crack (there is a whole shatter patern inline with the NFC but on the opposite side of the camera, it is what looks like from the side cover, but there is not even a mark / scratch / piece of dust on it so how, especially when its a flat side part, you cant crack glass say 1/3 down hitting the side panel.) it was not their issue. They also said that phones do get hot and that i must not use it while it charges. then the next issue, the heat, after about a month since the glass cracked the phone was getting so hot i could not keep it in my pocket, which i am sure is too hot, and since all this has happened the battery life seems to be getting less and less very quickly no matter how i charge or if i even run a battery calibration, i googled the issues and saw so many others with the issues, and so i have now gone the legal route, since my 3 month old phone Sony has informed me must go into a Repair Center and they cant give me a phone to use while it is in.
Another scary issue, is when the glass is cracked, people think it is still waterproof, IT IS NOT, THE CRACK MAKES YOUR PHONE NOT WATERPROOF, so be careful with it if the glass is cracked.
I think Sony needs to do the right thing and recall this model, the heat issue they "solved" by throttling the CPU, throttling the CPU means i am not getting the CPU speed as advertised which means false advertising as well. They say it was just a FW fix for now, but i cant see with the damage this has caused already, the FW throttling being taken away, MEANING THE PHONE IS NOT THE SPEC AS ADVERTISED, which is false advertising and means i am not getting what i paid for. So its wrong and also ILLEGAL.
Just my review, it seems like a very nice phone, if you are not worried about shattered glass in your ear or waking up an your house is on fire cause the phone got too hot.
Hello, im thinking of buying a z2 , but i read about the self cracking screen, that happens a lot? .
Myth
Ive had a Z2 since it came out and quite many have reported they HAVENT had this
Some of the pictures taken of a "self crack" have shown impact areas where as a few "self cracking" posts were true but that was down to Quality control issues
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Hello, im thinking of buying a z2 , but i read about the self cracking screen, that happens a lot? .
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First time that I heard that.
You should buy Z2,its just a some false story.
At the beginning of Android 5.0 the phone was able to heat like hell if the app was using lots of CPU.
I cracked my BACK of the phone this year in January (or was it in February?) while it was f*****ng cold outside and I used Osmand.
Osmand likes to heat your phone anyways, but these early Lollipop days added extra heating due to the rom, especially I was on some CM-rom...
But as I said, this was like -5 degree cold and windy outside, the phone heating at +60 or so... And then the glass-back cracked...
I didn't even bother to replace it, works just fine with the crack
Not so bad. You can try