[Q] Charger options? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I recently have the Z ultra with the standard portable charger from sony - 1.5 mA, I was just wondering as it takes pretty much upto 2.5 hours to full charge, is that ok to use a samsung charger I have for note series whch is 2 mA ?

angry_machine said:
I recently have the Z ultra with the standard portable charger from sony - 1.5 mA, I was just wondering as it takes pretty much upto 2.5 hours to full charge, is that ok to use a samsung charger I have for note series whch is 2 mA ?
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no? When Sony gives you a 1.5 mA charger use it! Using another Charger whith higher mA can really damage your device and if the Battery explodes the user can be hurt, too.
Possible things to go wrong:
Lesser battery live time
Battery damaged irreparably
Battery explodes and may hurt you
Phone can not be charged up again (controller damaged)
complete Phone can be damaged (hardware unusable)
Warranty lost

Lightbird said:
no? When Sony gives you a 1.5 mA charger use it! Using another Charger whith higher mA can really damage your device and if the Battery explodes the user can be hurt, too.
Possible things to go wrong:
Lesser battery live time
Battery damaged irreparably
Battery explodes and may hurt you
Phone can not be charged up again (controller damaged)
complete Phone can be damaged (hardware unusable)
Warranty lost
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Sounds good, thanks bro .

Lightbird said:
no? When Sony gives you a 1.5 mA charger use it! Using another Charger whith higher mA can really damage your device and if the Battery explodes the user can be hurt, too.
Possible things to go wrong:
Lesser battery live time
Battery damaged irreparably
Battery explodes and may hurt you
Phone can not be charged up again (controller damaged)
complete Phone can be damaged (hardware unusable)
Warranty lost
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Never had that problem, using multiple types of charger including car chargers. Battery life from day one is just about the same, and i keep my phone plugged in whenever possible.
- ipad charger (2.1A)
- iphone charger (0.5A)
- Samsung charger (1.0A)
- car ciggy port lighters (2.1A and 3.0A)
- international power plug adaptor (2.1A)
- notebook (~0.5A to 2A)
- powerbanks of various makes (1.0-2.1A)
...come to think of it, my Sony charger is still wrapped up nicely in the box lol
it has been this way even before using the ZU, with my other phones - Nokia N97, N8, E65/66, Note 1, Note 8

jeremy.chan said:
Never had that problem, using multiple types of charger including car chargers. Battery life from day one is just about the same, and i keep my phone plugged in whenever possible.
- ipad charger (2.1A)
- iphone charger (0.5A)
- Samsung charger (1.0A)
- car ciggy port lighters (2.1A and 3.0A)
- international power plug adaptor (2.1A)
- notebook (~0.5A to 2A)
- powerbanks of various makes (1.0-2.1A)
...come to think of it, my Sony charger is still wrapped up nicely in the box lol
it has been this way even before using the ZU, with my other phones - Nokia N97, N8, E65/66, Note 1, Note 8
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The phones IC's should limit the current drawn by the phone (the ZU seems to stop at 1.8 A) and limit it even further if the battery gets hot.
The ICs in the ZU is capable of fastcharge 2 from what I've read - anyone keen to see how hot a battery can get pulling 4A? <= don't try this at home kids

blueether said:
The phones IC's should limit the current drawn by the phone (the ZU seems to stop at 1.8 A) and limit it even further if the battery gets hot.
The ICs in the ZU is capable of fastcharge 2 from what I've read - anyone keen to see how hot a battery can get pulling 4A? <= don't try this at home kids
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So A 2 mA original Samsung charger should be fine .
What about the dock chargers,how about their mA?

angry_machine said:
So A 2 mA original Samsung charger should be fine .
What about the dock chargers,how about their mA?
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Note I said should
All damage is on you :angel:

blueether said:
Note I said should
All damage is on you :angel:
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Haha thats why i sayed no to charging whith over 1.5 mA . All that what i sayed are possible things what COULD happen. Made that once on an older phone whith the result of an balloon like battery.
Don`t wanted to be someone who kills ZUs

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Portable charger

The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z ... won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet).
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The Xperia Tablet Z is supplied with a charger that connects to its USB port; so, the XTZ will charge via its USB port.
If you attempt to charge the tablet via a computer's USB port, that port must be capable of supplying enough charging amperes, otherwise, the tablet will not charge. Standard USB 2.0 ports supply up to 500 mA and standard USB 3.0 ports supply up 900 mA, neither of which is truly enough amperes to charge the tablet. USB ports on computers that are specifically designed for charging devices usually supply 1500 mA (1.5 A) or more. Some manufacturers mark these types of USB ports with a lightening bolt symbol.
As for portable chargers, I have not used any except for chargers that fit in my automobile's power plug (cigarette lighter plug).
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
USB chargers are standardized, you need a "special" one nowadays about as much as you need a "special" socket for a device with a power plug.
The only difference is that we have weaker and stronger chargers, but this does not limit their usability. If you use a weak charger your device will charge slower, if you use a charger with an higher maximum power as your device needs it will expl nothing bad will happen either, it won't take more from the charger than it can handle.
Personally I bought (since I need the original 1.5A charger for the dock) a 2A Samsung charger for travelling. I think it is the same as the Galaxy Note 2 uses, which you already have.
Oh, and it charges with the 2A one over USB also around 30% faster than with Sonys 1.5A.
Psykhe said:
Any halfway recent (read: last 5 years) USB charger will work with it. Be it the one Sony supplies with the tablet, an iPad charger...or one for the Galaxy Note 2.
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Maybe I'm not being clear.
Portable power supply. With a battery. One that puts out enough power to actually use the XTZ while it's charging, even if doing so only keeps the battery the same rather than actually charging it.
Can anyone recommend anything?
I know it uses a standard micro USB connector to charge but I've heard it won't charge from most PCs as they don't put out enough power. My understanding of many portable chargers is that they also don't put out a great deal of power unless specifically designed for laptops and the like. I don't know if the tablet's needs are quite that, but I'm looking for anyone who has experience using a battery pack with it and if anyone has any recommendations.
Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
Thanks.
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Or am I being silly and it'll work with anything capable of charging any tablet?
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It should. The XTZs battery isn't exactly high capacity as tablets go. The Nexus 10 has a 50% bigger one and the iPad3/4 one is almost twice as large.
The principle of power packs is in the end identical as that of basic USB chargers, even a 500mA one will charge the XTZ, but it will take around 15 hours for that (and around 24+ hours to charge an iPad). It isn't a question of "working", but of "working how fast". But, as said, the XDZ hasn't exactly an huge battery, so if anything it will charge faster than other Tablets.
Assuming you do not use it, that is. It is quite possible to discharge it as fast a 3A/hour if you use maximum screen brightness and CPU intensive tasks. But you can discharge other Tablets faster than you can charge them as well.
So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
Psykhe said:
So what to use - same principle as with USB chargers, pick any. It does not matter if its power comes from a power plug or batteries. If ti works for one USB device it will work for all. What matters is it's maximum A output. One with 2A should be able to charge the XTZ in 4.5 hours, one with 1.5A in 6 hours, and so on...
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The Sony CPF2LS USB Portable Power Supply with 7000 mAh Battery charges at 1.5 amps so it should work for you. I'd post a link to Amazon, but, alas, I can't. It's around 63 bucks.
Regards,
John Francis
Morti said:
The Xperia Tablet Z is a notoriously slow charger and won't charge over USB (from what I've heard, I don't have mine yet). Does anyone know of a portable charger or power pack that'll work with it?
Ideally one available in Europe.
Cheers.
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There is a slew of chargers that will charge it. You can use laptop USB, but like mentioned if you use it while charging it will drain
To solve this problem you simply need to have a portable charger that will put out at least 1.5amp(which is what the tablet charges at if im not mistaken).
So plenty are on amazon or ebay which you should have access to in europe
I use powergen ,they work well and is good quailty. Like either of these will workbigger mah will make the charger simply last longer)
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-2&keywords=powergen
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-PGMP...=UTF8&qid=1372292278&sr=8-3&keywords=powergen
Key thing is to simply look for the amerpage it puts out before you buy, that's how you know if it will charge and use the tablet at the same time. I can sucessfully do both using my car charger(2amp made for iphones) and my Powergen
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Yeah, I'm looking for something that charges the XTZ faster than (or as fast as) it discharges.
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The thing is this entirely depends how you use it. It is quite possible to use it in such a way that you would need a 3A charger to stop it from discharging. I do not think such one exists nor that the battery can accept such a charge.
So AFAIK a charger (be it a power plug or battery one) which stops it from discharging under all kinds of usage scenarios does not exist.
Therefore there is no answer to you "which charger I should use" question, only that the more A a charger puts out, the more usage scenarios will be covered (as in "will charge tablet while using it that way") by it.
Test how fast the Tablet discharges (without charging it) when you use it the way you plan to while using your charger. That will give you an indicator what kind of power you need. I.e. if it takes 12 hours even only a 0.5A charger will work, if it takes 2 hours you would need a 3A charger, which likely doesn't exists.
Im using an innergie charger that gives 2.1 amps and it charges a little faster than the 1.5a that came with it!
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also i noticed that the quality of the cable has an effect, cheap ones take longer!!
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
padooka said:
http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Flas...?ie=UTF8&qid=1374806804&sr=8-3&keywords=anker
I'm looking into buying this,hopefully the charging will be somewhat quick as opposed to my current rate. I wonder if there will we a decent charging rate when I use it with this:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/david-toledo/the-practical-meter-know-your-power
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You know that that charger will only charge around 66% of the XTZs battery, though?
(Effective maximum capacity ~4A (see "attrition factor" explained in 2nd review), XTZs battery: 6A)
I am using my Samsung Note2 charger that states 2A.
Charges alot faster so for people with other chargers I should check samsung chargers haha.
Heya,
I've used the Momox iPowerPro+ on my Xperia Tablet Z and no problems
http://shop.brando.com/Momax-8500mA...2-1A-1A-External-Battery_p08658c0191d003.html

[Q] Fast Charger, compatible and without risk ?

Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
WolwX said:
Hi people
Since I'm part of the lucky people owning a Huawei Ascend Mate 7 (MT7-TL10), I'm actually looking some accessories like a quick charger.
I wish a charger better than the original one if possible, with EU pins, and with a good quality checked (I prefer to avoid some product with awesome specs but not tested ...)
So anyone have any idea where I can find a good charger, and without any risk for my phone ?
Thanks
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for few days i went to jarir book store on KSA . I found Charger good price also 2 USB 5 volt 2.4 Amber ... compatiable with mate 7 and faster from orignal ...
just to know more fasting to charge wil damge your batter of mate 7 quickly .also orignal 2 A will damge
for me I charging with Iphone charge 1A good for batter and Stander and low risk to Device
If you want proper charging, then always use the accessories coming with that product. It is tested for sure and good. Other than that, you can use any charger delivering the same charge. The original charger is 5 volt, 2 Ampere. Don't use anything above 2 amperes as it may damage the device. Below that will charge it slowly.
BTW, why you don't want to use the original charger?
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I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
Is it safe for battery life of Mate 7?
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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djmaxi said:
I'm using a NTT Docomo Quickcharge 2.0 adapter and It does support it even though is not specified and it's not a qualcomm chip.
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Can you test it with ampere (free in gplay) i don't think it will charge over 1800mA so that it acts like a normal 2a charger
Fast charging
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
Hi,
PoopDonkey said:
Using a fast charger will destroy your battery faster. Not recommended as the battery is not removable. You can get a battery and if you are comfortable removing the back and swapping it out then go for it.
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that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
blackinfinity said:
Since battery is not removable be careful with fast charging, since it will decrease the life span of the battery and in the end it will just give you less battery performance.. it is stupid... however.. there is situations where it can be really needed though but not on a regular basis..
Last weekend I would really had needed fast charging.. It forced me to spend about 3 hours on a cafee so I could make it 100% so I did know I did survive the day with gps and all other things.. However in these situations I really like the ultra power saving mode..it saved me that night.. when I was lost in stockholm.. and my phone was really the only way to get contact with people
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Why don't you buy a powerbank? I can advice you the xiaomi 16000mah. That one charges fast and you can be mobile.
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps. Batteries will automatically lose cells from charge cycles and by the time you feel the effects of the battery going bad, you would have already moved on to the next device for the next person to worry about. And saying to use the Stock Charger isn't really good enough as the Stock charger doesn't serve as a Car charger also. If you want to charge your phone quick, and you already have a 2 Amp charger, Check your microUSB cable. Don't use junk cables, buy quality or use the cable you received with the device. You get what you pay for. Fast Charging won't work as the Charger has a chip inside that communicates with the Phone and Device. Also, when buying a charger, don't just randomly buy a charger online, Make sure its UL Tested. Even if it says UL tested, there should be a test number on that UL Label, take it a step further and google it and make sure it matches the charger specs and passes as knockoff chargers are notorious for copying other chargers Regulatory icons to make it seem authentic. You don't want to buy a junk charger that ends up burning your house down or gives you a very bad 120 Volt shock through the microUSB cable that would also kill and fry your phone.
treem said:
I use Nexus 6 Turbo charge (made by Motorola) 5v 1.6A it charge full battery in 90 minute.
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories/power-storage/chargers/motorola-turbo-charger/motorola-turbo-charger-pdp.html
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1.6A is nothing.. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours
one friend conected his phone to a hi suite, he went to repair sistem or something like that, and it pop out an option of QUICK CHARGE... even he doesent know how that hapends, now his phone charges faster. he is on b331 rom
cyvr1 said:
Hi,
that is not correct as you are not connecting the charger to the battery directly. In fact the charger is just a power supply. The actual charger is integrated into the phone (charging controller).
In general you need to know that volts are pushed to the device by the power supply and amps are drawn by the device (phone) from the power supply. Therefor using a power supply with more than 5V will kill your phone but using one with 2A, 3A or even 4A will make no difference as the charging controller will just pull the amps required. Because of that you can not really fast charge a phone by changing the power supply only if the phone supports the fast charge option (for example some Nexus phones).
I tested this myself with a power supply (can provide 5V and 1.5 to 4 amps) and an amp meter. The phone always drew between 1.5 and 1.6 amps (with and empty battery, 8 to 10% left) regardless of the selected amps of the power supply. Using a power supply with less than 1.5A will kill the power supply as the phone tries to draw the 1.5 amps or more. As result the power supply will get hot and eventually die.
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so much misinformation
this post is the only one who gets it right.
Kalemucu said:
Any recommendations?
I wonder if a S6 charger do the trick. Stock charger is too slow damn. Spending 3 hours to have a full charge is not acceptable for me.
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You have not read my earlier post or you did not understand it. Changing the charger on the Mate 7 will have NO effect (zero, nada) on the time required to charge your phone except the charger delivers less then appr. 1.6A. Then it would take longer and evetually kill the charger. The Mate 7 uses a Kirin chip which has no fastcharge implemented. Samsung uses Qualcomm Chips with implemented fastcharge technology. The charger (in fact a power supply) and the phone/CPU/charge controller need to communicate with each other, otherwise fastcharge will not be activated (the reason fastcharge with charge-only cables does not work because they lack the required data cables for communication).
I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v and 2 Amps.
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Wrong. Correct would be "I'm going to be honest, it doesn't really matter how you charge your phone as long as you don't go over 5v." The amps of the charger don't matter at all -> amps are PULLED by the phone not pushed to the phone. You could use a charger with 100 or 1000 amps and it would not hurt your phone a bit as long as it is only charged with 5 Volts.
More amps (>1.6A) on the charger do not improve the time for charging one second.
1.6A is nothing. i use 2.0A and it still chrges 3 hours.
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Yes, and that won't change one bit even if you use the best and most expensive charger and a 1000$ cable. The Mate 7 is limited by its hardware (built in charge controller) and pulls max 1.6A. End of story.
As long as you don't understand how charging works you will spend 100's of bucks for cables and chargers to no avail.
The only reason, why charging with some charges is quicker than with others is that those chargers actually deliver the amps they are supposed to deliver. There are a lot of cheap/bad chargers out there which are labelled with 5V/2A but only deliver a fraction of the amps. You can identify those chargers easily because they get extremly hot. I use a 2A charger from Aukey which gets only lukeworm.

C5 Ultra Compatible Charger?

I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
Using an old note 3 2amp charger, makes it charge faster, but would also like to know re ep881
I tried to charge using my old Zenfone 5 charger (1.35A) and it is indeed faster, my friend's Z1 also charges faster.
But when I use my iPad Air charger (2.4A) it's slow just like the desktop charger (850 mA).
So yeah because of this mixed results, I'd also like to know how fast it would charge with the EP881.
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I am using a Samsung high speed travel charger which gives out 2.1a. Very fast and charges my C5 Ultra in around 2 hours...
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
senthilrmohan said:
guys,
i also bought a new sony c5 dual ultra phone couple of days before.
phone is dead now and unable to charge it from sony charger.i tried with computer usb port also.
please suggest me something.
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Return it for repairs or replacement...
dear
kanej2006 said:
Return it for repairs or replacement...
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i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
senthilrmohan said:
i bought it in dubai airport during my transit.
is it possible to check with them.
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Oh dear. There are two options.
1 - Try returning the phone to the nearest Sony dealer. Show the original receipt which will show the device is new and still under warranty. Hopefully they can resolve the issue.
2 - Sony may ask you to return it to the shop where it was bought. Unfortunately you may have to return it to the shop you bought it from in Dubai Airport. They will most likely send the unit off to Sony for repair or replacement.
That said, try option 1, much more convenient. Hopefully they can solve your problem without having to mess about returning it to the original shop which happens to be in another country! Otherwise you may even have to ship the item along with the receipt to the shop. Once they receive the unit they will advise you on what they will do and how long it will take for it to be fixed/replaced. Once that has been completed, they will need to ship it back to you.
Either way, good luck and let us know what happens!
Bought this phone when I was in Thailand when I killed my Nexus 6 by walking into the ocean while it was in my pocket..lol. Anyways, the phone is slow at charging, not like my Nexus 6 which takes only 15 mins to charge fully. I switched to the Motorola Nexus 6's turbo charger and my C5 is charging A LOT faster. Standard charging is 5V @1.6A, Turbo 1 is 9V @ 1.6A, and Turbo 2 is 12V @ 1.2A. Not sure if the C5 is a Turbo charging enabled device but it's definitely charging way faster than the stock charger.
zarerraldin said:
I just got my C5 Ultra Dual 3 days ago... and the main disappointment of this phablet is the battery. Because the battery drains really fast, so i have to charge it twice a day. Actually it doesn't really matter, but this phone really have a super sloooow charging. When i checked the desktop charger, it only give 850 mAh output (meanwhile other phones' official charger alreade give 1,5-2 A output).
I'm thinking of buying Sony EP881 Fast Charging (1,5A output), does it really charges C5 faster?
or do you know any other "faster" charger that compatible for our C5?
Thank you
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I've used my old Samsung charger that came with my old s4 and the charger puts out 5.0v at 2amps. And I used it on the original z ultra and I tested it on my new c ultra and it works great however I have realized that these particular phablets really don't charge that fast and from my experience they never have but they are at best average when it comes to charging. Oh by the way I also have the original Sony charger u s version and I see vary little differents in the amount of time it takes to charge
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
Bavz08 said:
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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Not at all...
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
Seshcena said:
Are u sure charger giving 1.5-2A output if used with c5 ultra will not harm the phone
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Not at all.
I use various chargers (Anker, Samsung, LG, Apple) and all of them work better than original, but you should leave the phone idle when charging.
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Bavz08 said:
But will it damage the battery or affect the battery life if we use a 2A-5V charger??
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The phone charges on maximum ampere it can take (~2A) no matter the charger is 100A as long as the output stays 5V.
Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
Seshcena said:
Yes but what will happen if we use the phone while charging. Please tell the consequences
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I played Candy Crush Saga when charging. The phone can be hot but it doesn't make your hands uncomfortable.
What happens if we change charger means sometimes use 2A charger, sometimes 1A or 1.5A
The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
A side note: avoid REV (sold on BestBuy) external battery because the phone refuses to charge while Asus 10050mAh and TSST 5Ah and 10Ah external battery charge fine.
jetstreamblue said:
The amp rating on chargers are the max it can output. It doesn't mean it has to output that. Your phone's charge circuitry will control the current it actually draws. So there is absolutely no danger to use a higher amperage charger with your phone. However, I found that no matter what charger I use, including those rated up to 2.4A, the C5 is very slow to charge. It takes a lot longer to charge compared to any other phone I've had in the past. I'm going to get a current monitoring device to check actual current draw.
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In my case, if the battery is 5% or less, it'll take around 3 1/2 hours to charge. However, should the battery be 25-30% it'll just take around 2 hours to fully charge...

Chargers and Ampage

I know there is a thread about what charger to buy, but I have a specs question. Mine z5 came with the International charger and I am in the US. I noted it is 5v and 1.5a. I have a 5v 1a charger on hand. Can I use that?
Sure, it will just take longer to charge.
No lasting negative effects on the battery?
BigHulkDiesel said:
No lasting negative effects on the battery?
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Most certainly no negative effects. In theory it should actually be better for the battery to charge it with less current, but I don't know if that is true.
Different topic: I read that there are multiple versions of the Z5 (US, Europe, ...) and that they support different LTE frequencies. So maybe you want to check if your mobile connection works as intended, if you don't have the US version.
My phone is showing LTE after choosing my apn settings.
I tried using a 5V 1A charger with my phone and it doesnt seem to work. (It works fine on my old phone) The charge light keeps turning on and off. The vibration pulse you hear when it starts charging keeps pulsing too.
Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
I once connected my Z5C to an old 500mA charger (caught the wrong cable) and kept using it a bit (screen on, etc.) and it gave me a nag screen that said that the charger is not suitable because apparently the battery drain from usage was more than what trickled back in.
However, if left alone even a 500mA charger should eventually charge the phone, taking much longer though.
Generally, with chargers, you need to get the voltage right. If the Amperage is higher that what the OEM charger is it does not matter. The electronics in the device limit the charge to what the device can handle. The Amperage on the charger is the max it can deliver. In other words, the charger does not pump 2.5A into the phone forcefully, the phone just nibbles whatever it can take (say 1,5A).
farfetch said:
Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
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Any reliable source for that? The charging will be slower - yes, but I seriously doubt, that this has negative long-term effects on the capacity.
dd23 said:
Any reliable source for that? The charging will be slower - yes, but I seriously doubt, that this has negative long-term effects on the capacity.
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Just try it by yourself for few days
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I think you need a 2A charger to be sure with the Z5c. Most of my older chargers take hours to charge it, and the car USB port (Nissan Qashqai 2015) barely charges it at all.
The UCH20 that came with the phone, takes 2 hours 15 mins to charge the phone fully. I got a quick charger which takes around 1 hour and 10 mins at max
Wow, really?
It is basic electronics. The voltage must be the exact one. Amperage is what the device draws , therefore the charger must be capable to provide a minimum not a maximum.
I repeat, it is basic electronics!
Now a more pertinent question :
What are the voltages for quick charge ? Does anyone know?
If someone has a original charger with quick charge can you please state what voltages are written on it?
Should be 2 or 3 voltages with lowest 5V
Edit : Found myself the info on Sony UK website of a Sony charger.
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farfetch said:
Better use an HIGHER amperage, than lower!! Charger will adapte it to phone specifics...A lower amperage will reduce your battery capacity in long time.
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I also want a source for that... It's the first time in my life i hear it's the opposite... and i have been charging this phone with 1 amp or 500mA (with pc usb) for the past 4 years, battery is still fine. Only used a 1.5A charger a few times.
On the other hand, my sisters z5 had a swollen battery a year ago, she always used quick chargers...
farfetch said:
Just try it by yourself for few days
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What do you mean by that?
you are not going to notice battery degradation in just a few days of charging...
EDIT: i only notice now that i accidentally replied to a post from years ago, sorry for that...

Can I Use Standard Samsung Charger on Xiaomi Note 10 Lite?

Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
Update: I have been charging 'Mi Note 10 lite' with Samsung Standard Charger (1.55A 5V) but the charger is getting too... hot, not sure whether its affecting battery life (battery is not getting hot) though.
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Can I charge Xiaomi Note 10 Lite with a standard Samsung charger? Following are the specifications of chargers
Xiaomi Note 10 Lite came with 30w Fast Charger, following is whats written on the charger:
Output 5.0V=3.0A 15.0W/9.0V=3.0A 27.0W/12.0V=2.25A 27.0W/20.0V=1.35A 27.0W/10.0V=3.0A Max 30.0W Max
I want to use the following Samsung charger:
Output 5.0V=1.55A
I don't need fast charging and I am planning on keeping this phone for a longer period of time thus want to use a standard charger to save the battery.
Kindly if anyone has technical knowledge about these readings please advise me whether I can use the above standard charger without damaging the battery if not what standard charger should I buy for my phone?
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Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
ParaSense. said:
Yes you can use any charger.
1.55A Charger gets hot because mi note 10 lite can support up to 30w so it get all the "juice" of this weak charger..
Technicaly the battery life will be even better with slower chargings.. but xiaomi batteries are very good in my experience and everything official (like 30w charging) will not harm the battery.
Im phone technician btw.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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Thank you.
- Are you sure this charger getting very hot is not of any concern and will not hurt the note 10 lite battery?
- Also is this dangerous for the charger? It doesn't get hot with the Samsung pone it came up with?
- I am worried because in the past one of my laptop's battery bloated because I used a charger with 19V instead of 19.5V. it shouldn't hurt the battery by some experts but I guess it did in my case probably because battery was inside laptop all the time while I was using AC power, although laptop had a feature to disconnect battery when fully charged but in my case battery still got bloated.
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volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
ParaSense. said:
volts matter.. you can damage a device and its battery with more volts than it supports.. about amps , the device will get as much as it can.. for example if u plug a 5volt10 amp on mi note 10 lite it will get 5 volt and 3 amps, and the charger will not get hot
mi note 10 lite can handle from 5 to 20 volt.
The only concern is about the charger because it give all the power it have.. but i dont think samsung charger will blow up they got all protections.. your phone gets as much as the charger can give (5v 1.55amp) but i suggest you buy a stronger charger so it can charge cooler
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Thank you. Btw I was using less volts charger 19V while laptop required 19.5V, I was told slightly less volts don't matter but boom a year later we find a pregnant battery.
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Less volts can't harm.. Laptop batteries are fragile and they die after 2-3 years.. To live longer you have to remove it from laptop when you are not using it (the battery if charger is plugged)
+1 TO ABOVE, won't be issues. Worst case scenario charger may die, not the phone battery.

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