Hi Guys!
Amazingly, I found out yesterday that Google stores our historic location. I'm thinking of disabling it, but afraid to worsen research services and access speed of Google Maps. Let me know if anyone knows this history consists of access to the GPS of the device or the networks? Consumes more battery when enabled?
https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0
You leave enabled or not?
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Hi Guys!
Amazingly, I found out yesterday that Google stores our historic location. I'm thinking of disabling it, but afraid to worsen research services and access speed of Google Maps. Let me know if anyone knows this history consists of access to the GPS device or the networks? Consumes more battery when enabled?
https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0
You leave enabled or not?
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Have to check mine....
But I have it ALWAYS off unless I use Maps...
Going to check mine but i dont see it as a draining problem.
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Hi Guys!
Amazingly, I found out yesterday that Google stores our historic location. I'm thinking of disabling it, but afraid to worsen research services and access speed of Google Maps. Let me know if anyone knows this history consists of access to the GPS of the device or the networks? Consumes more battery when enabled?
https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0
You leave enabled or not?
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I won't cause you battery consumption too much ( it used to be ) but with the new Google Play Service, it consume battery very low and it's really good if you leave it on.
1. It help you if you get picture and have G+ to make a Story for you.
2. It help you for your favorite location and trip time and traffic time to there.
And lots of other thing that I don't remember now.
Nobleman1 said:
Going to check mine but i dont see it as a draining problem.
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It's strange to think how he draws our daily route without consuming battery! So I think he does this with the help of cellular networks! If the device used the GPS, we would have a huge battery drain!
dany20mh said:
I won't cause you battery consumption too much ( it used to be ) but with the new Google Play Service, it consume battery very low and it's really good if you leave it on.
1. It help you if you get picture and have G+ to make a Story for you.
2. It help you for your favorite location and trip time and traffic time to there.
And lots of other thing that I don't remember now.
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Particularly I not use Google Now, much less G +, believe not be advantageous to have this option enabled! I mean, it would not matter to me!
I saw on Google's help page that it uses a considerable amount of data, which can be harmful to the battery!
I disabled both functions and deletes my history. My big fear was disable this function and impair functioning of any device, such as speed of access Maps, which tested it and did not notice any difference!
I believe that this function would be for Google to know what my daily route and enter it into the database of Google Now.
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
It's strange to think how he draws our daily route without consuming battery! So I think he does this with the help of cellular networks! If the device used the GPS, we would have a huge battery drain!
Particularly I not use Google Now, much less G +, believe not be advantageous to have this option enabled! I mean, it would not matter to me!
I saw on Google's help page that it uses a considerable amount of data, which can be harmful to the battery!
I disabled both functions and deletes my history. My big fear was disable this function and impair functioning of any device, such as speed of access Maps, which tested it and did not notice any difference!
I believe that this function would be for Google to know what my daily route and enter it into the database of Google Now.
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Google Now is very limited in our country, Brazil.
higgs_ said:
Google Now is very limited in our country, Brazil.
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Exactly! Higgs, you leave these options enabled or disabled?
I leave this option always on! It's helps several services and apps.
Experience tells me that when this location is ON together with Google Now then it is a battery killer!!! Google now is always looking for information to show on the cards in the background and uses fairly more battery.
But of course it can be cool when Google Now tells you witch buses you can catch and how long can you be at home...
SWEagle said:
I leave this option always on! It's helps several services and apps.
Experience tells me that when this location is ON together with Google Now then it is a battery killer!!! Google now is always looking for information to show on the cards in the background and uses fairly more battery.
But of course it can be cool when Google Now tells you witch buses you can catch and how long can you be at home...
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Exactly!
I disabled these options, given that I do not use Google Now for now! Here in Brazil is very limited!
BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Exactly! Higgs, you leave these options enabled or disabled?
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Disabled
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Greetings!
I've recently bought Samsung Galaxy S3 and am trying to get the most of its battery by disabling things I don't need. The one of these things is Push service. I've managed to disable it for Google Mail and Google Talk, but I can't find how to do this regarding Play Store Push. To see how it works, I visit Play Store via my PC browser and chose anything to download. The next second my phone starts the downloading and installation. To me, there's namely Push service involved.
I'd appreciate if you share your knowledge/thoughts how to make this thing disabled. All settings of Play Store that possibly may have impact to this behavior are turned off. There also was an advice to stop Software Update service that I followed, but to me that didn't work. And yes, I have no root enabled, if that makes any sense.
Thanks in advance,
Eugene
Turned off updates on phone Play app ???
jje
JJEgan said:
Turned off updates on phone Play app ???
jje
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Of course, it was the first thing to do. It has nothing in common with Play Store Push.
That service is not only used for Play Store, but for nearly all Google Apps and several non-Google apps, being called C2DM.
It does not consume any battery in normal conditions since it uses a technology called Comet long polling (aka "push") and thus waits for Google servers to send a notification, the device does not have to actively monitor for changes.
As long as you have data enabled you can safely keep it running since it won't cost you battery in idle.
Dropping your data to 2G is the only method to really save battery (disabling data does not really give you any more advantage over 2G with enabled Sync for all services, ~2-3 days of standby battery)
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
Sound a bit paranoid to try to conserve battery in such manner. Is it necessary?
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d4fseeker said:
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
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These minutes I could save by turning this off may be vital in some cases So, I assume there is no legal way to turn this off? I even can't see this C2DM in my SystemPanel App. Should I?
Ok, no big deal. If you guys insist I can leave it as is
Thanks a lot for the lesson.
I even can't see this C2DM in my SystemPanel App.
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No you can't. I can't even seem to find the toggle 'Background data' responsible for this feature in the current CM10 Jellybean build.
These minutes I could save by turning this off
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As I said, C2DM will not use battery except in 2 cases:
- when a message/notification is being pushed (well duh!)
- when you keep switching network or loosing internet connection (however in this case the C2DM's is neglectable in comparison to the modem's battery drain)
It is technically basically a few bytes in RAM that remind the phone that incoming data on Port X is Push-notifications. The underlying service (Android market framework) will run anyway.
turning this off may be vital in some cases
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I always keep a "mobile power pack" and USB-cable (which is a battery with USB plug) in the car and backpack so that I can easily quickly charge the phone either through the mobile power pack or an available USB port on a computer. In case of emergencies, lots of other people have a mobile phone too which you can borrow - you'll have to remember the phone number though.
Buying a smartphone and then not using it so you have some juice in case of emergency is somewhat ridiculous. Stick with feature phones then =)
Ok, no big deal. If you guys insist I can leave it as is
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There are a lot of other system options you can tweak starting from the modem and ending with the kernel and ROM features which all affect battery life. E.g. Siyah can be tweaked for performance or battery life.
d4fseeker said:
That service is not only used for Play Store, but for nearly all Google Apps and several non-Google apps, being called C2DM.
It does not consume any battery in normal conditions since it uses a technology called Comet long polling (aka "push") and thus waits for Google servers to send a notification, the device does not have to actively monitor for changes.
As long as you have data enabled you can safely keep it running since it won't cost you battery in idle.
Dropping your data to 2G is the only method to really save battery (disabling data does not really give you any more advantage over 2G with enabled Sync for all services, ~2-3 days of standby battery)
How about you enjoy your phone instead of trying to manually cripple it down just to get some more juice out of it?
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Speaking of nearly all Google apps, I noticed this morning when I turned my rooted S3 back on that two of them, Play Books and Play Movies & TV, which I had frozen with TB, were back and had to be refrozen. Are these coming from Play Store and could I turn off auto updates just for them there? Annoying.
Push not working
Hello guys
I need your help here. So I flashed this new ROM, and the Google Push service seemed to have stopped working completely.
1. Gmail not pushing.
2. Google play store not pushing as well
I have played around (sync on,etc) but I can't seem to find what's wrong with it. So I tried to restore a previous Nandroid backup, but the md5 checksum was mismatched!
I then tried to wipe everything, reflash new ROM etc, and yet the Google Push services aren't working as well.
Can anyone help? I am stuck, I can't go back due to md5 checksum error, and I can't move forward because I don't get Google Push services
I am sick of google trying to always store my location every single second of my life through my device. It eats massive amounts of battery and is not useful at all! I have no idea how to disable it completely, I use navigation apps like Sygic, so i want to enable GPS, but I am unable to set it to high accuracy, because then it asks me to enable location reporting, otherwise, gps stays at device only mode. What the hell is wrong with google? I have always loved them, but God do I hate them for being such a d***s about this.
I dont know whats wrong with them but use light gapps so less google services and the location options are in the google locaion menu. If you want good battery life for navigation and like that i recommend an rom with android 4.12 or 4.2.2
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That's the penalty you pay for using their firmware rather than the manufacturer's or something based off it.
Mariius said:
I am sick of google trying to always store my location every single second of my life through my device. It eats massive amounts of battery and is not useful at all! I have no idea how to disable it completely, I use navigation apps like Sygic, so i want to enable GPS, but I am unable to set it to high accuracy, because then it asks me to enable location reporting, otherwise, gps stays at device only mode. What the hell is wrong with google? I have always loved them, but God do I hate them for being such a d***s about this.
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For Sygic, which is an offline app, device only gps is enough. You can look for something like LBE Security Master here on XDA, so you can decide which apps you want to allow to use gps. It helped me a lot to reduce the search for location from all kind of apps when I have gps turned on.
Hi All
I'm trying to get my head around what Huawei have done with the "Launch" functionality. My naive understanding is that it's huawei's own attempt at greenify. Killing apps that are not being used... somewhat intelligently.
I'm wondering if this actually has any impact on battery at all, it certainly stops processes from launching and running.. notifications being missed etc.
Anyone have any ideas what this is actually doing, or if the setting is actually beneficial? I thought google was against this sort of practice when doze is their solution.
Secondly, the following apps are allowed to ignore battery optimisation out of the box:
Backup
Camera
com.huawei.hiviewtunnel
Email
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Health
HwLBSService
Screen recording
System update
Any one know if it is advisable to set these to don't allow ignoring of battery optimisations?
Thanks
alexs1mmo said:
Hi All
I'm trying to get my head around what Huawei have done with the "Launch" functionality. My naive understanding is that it's huawei's own attempt at greenify. Killing apps that are not being used... somewhat intelligently.
I'm wondering if this actually has any impact on battery at all, it certainly stops processes from launching and running.. notifications being missed etc.
Anyone have any ideas what this is actually doing, or if the setting is actually beneficial? I thought google was against this sort of practice when doze is their solution.
Secondly, the following apps are allowed to ignore battery optimisation out of the box:
Backup
Camera
com.huawei.hiviewtunnel
Email
Google Play Services
Google Services Framework
Health
HwLBSService
Screen recording
System update
Any one know if it is advisable to set these to don't allow ignoring of battery optimisations?
Thanks
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Allow none of them. Cause no harm
lawtq said:
Allow none of them. Cause no harm
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I'm wondering the same thing.
Are you sure that we can allow none of them app ?
I'm not allowing any apps that need to stay running (in the background) like Garmin Connect, Ad blocker, virus scanner and some more to avoid Huawei killing them. I see no difference in battery consumption.
sonydesouza said:
I'm wondering the same thing.
Are you sure that we can allow none of them app ?
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I've disallowed all of them. I don't see any problems
lawtq said:
I've disallowed all of them. I don't see any problems
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And did you see any improvments ?
sonydesouza said:
And did you see any improvments ?
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Tbh no. Lol. Battery is great no matter what. But no harm either
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
Improvements:
- AlwaysOnDisplay: off
- Playing now: off
- reduce brightness
Are there any Google APPs which can be safely deactivated without getting the phone lunatic nor have heavy impact on the system?
And why is the Google APP so large? On my Moto G5+ it was around 35MB and now it's ten times bigger?
TGHH said:
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
Improvements:
- AlwaysOnDisplay: off
- Playing now: off
- reduce brightness
Are there any Google APPs which can be safely deactivated without getting the phone lunatic nor have heavy impact on the system?
And why is the Google APP so large? On my Moto G5+ it was around 35MB and now it's ten times bigger?
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I wondered the same as you before receiving my Pixel 3. Comjing from a Galaxy S8 battery / SoT was always an issue, I barely made it trough a whole day of work without recharging at 5 PM.
With the Pixel 3 I did the following:
- Set it up and migrate everything from the S8 (via the Assistant in the Setup screen)
- Restored my ringtones and Notification sounds
- disabled the following Apps (because I don't use them): Action Services, Android Auto, Chrome, Connectivity Health Services, Device Health Services, Device Policy, Gmail (I use Aquamail instead), Google Connectivity Services, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Suport Services, Live Transcribe, Pixel Ambient Services, Youtube (I prefer Youtube Vanced and MigroG instead)
- Set up a ton of Cal and Carddav Accounts for my personal cloud services
- Disabled the automativ battery saver (which would kick in at 15% by default)
- Set up Automate: toogle WiFi on automatically when I reach a specific location (I know this is build in, but with the build in version it doesn't switch of when I leave the location) and disable it when I leave, Disable Bluetooth when not in use for 5 Minutes, automatically activate DnD when I'm charging after a specific Time (I charge every night) and disable it when I remove it from the Qi Charger
That's what I set up because of my experience with the S8 and because I want most things automatically done.
Yesterday I pushed the phone to the limit (a whole workday plus 2 Hours Spotify and 3 Hours Gaming):
imagebanana.com/s/1383/8vZEWmFF.html
P.S.:Sorry for the broken Link, just copy the Link into your webbrowser. I lost my old account and had to set up a new one, where I will be allowed to post links after 10 Posts
TGHH said:
Opening this thread because battery life could be better even though it's only ~2950mAh. Currently I'm getting a bettery life of 20h with moderate usage. So I started to gather infos about how to reduce battery drain and usage.
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Why don't just turn on Battery Saver? It shuts down some functions, like instant response for "Hey Google", idles background running apps etc. It also switches on dark theme at least in settings. I didn't measure exact battery life, but it feels, it lives longer. However, there were some days (I think, once in a couple months) when the battery drained almost in half in literally some hours. Since I registered it aftermath, I can not recall what could lead to that, but since I live in Los Angeles with some areas of pretty bad coverage (in hills areas, on some freeways), it's possible those caused the drainage. Also it could be the result of some glitches that Pixel is famous for, so I just rebooted it and it stopped drain the battery for that reason or because I was already out of bad coverage areas.
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TimLux said:
I wondered the same as you before receiving my Pixel 3. Comjing from a Galaxy S8 battery / SoT was always an issue, I barely made it trough a whole day of work without recharging at 5 PM.
With the Pixel 3 I did the following:
- Set it up and migrate everything from the S8 (via the Assistant in the Setup screen)
- Restored my ringtones and Notification sounds
- disabled the following Apps (because I don't use them): Action Services, Android Auto, Chrome, Connectivity Health Services, Device Health Services, Device Policy, Gmail (I use Aquamail instead), Google Connectivity Services, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Suport Services, Live Transcribe, Pixel Ambient Services, Youtube (I prefer Youtube Vanced and MigroG instead)
- Set up a ton of Cal and Carddav Accounts for my personal cloud services
- Disabled the automativ battery saver (which would kick in at 15% by default)
- Set up Automate: toogle WiFi on automatically when I reach a specific location (I know this is build in, but with the build in version it doesn't switch of when I leave the location) and disable it when I leave, Disable Bluetooth when not in use for 5 Minutes, automatically activate DnD when I'm charging after a specific Time (I charge every night) and disable it when I remove it from the Qi Charger
That's what I set up because of my experience with the S8 and because I want most things automatically done.
Yesterday I pushed the phone to the limit (a whole workday plus 2 Hours Spotify and 3 Hours Gaming):
imagebanana.com/s/1383/8vZEWmFF.html
P.S.:Sorry for the broken Link, just copy the Link into your webbrowser. I lost my old account and had to set up a new one, where I will be allowed to post links after 10 Posts
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Your setup of apps and syncing is very close to mine! Some of the services you mentioned are still running on my Pixel. That's a good starting point for further optimisation. Very appreciate your help!
Che Kirila said:
Why don't just turn on Battery Saver? It shuts down some functions, like instant response for "Hey Google", idles background running apps etc. It also switches on dark theme at least in settings. I didn't measure exact battery life, but it feels, it lives longer. However, there were some days (I think, once in a couple months) when......
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I applied already the standards for saving battery life (AoD, etc.) and as I don't use the Google services also those I was sure it doesn't break anything. Getting rid of the services I don't use is a good start for optimise it.
b1337 said:
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Unlock and root will come by time but for now I keep it locked. ??
TGHH said:
Unlock and root will come by time but for now I keep it locked.
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literally no point but ok
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literally no point but ok
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Yes, it is. Loosing warranty.
Never had a problem with this since Nexus one
b1337 said:
Never had a problem with this since Nexus one
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Well, it's not about the process of unlocking and rooting the phone, but just the legal side.
I would not get any service for free if I unlocked it.
I rooted every phone I had but as my Pixel is new I will wait till I'm sure that there are no hardware problems occurring.
TGHH said:
I applied already the standards for saving battery life (AoD, etc.) and as I don't use the Google services also those I was sure it doesn't break anything. Getting rid of the services I don't use is a good start for optimise it.
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Do you mean you applied that after special mode "Battery Saver" as additions to it? That standard mode was enough for me to keep my battery charge mostly over 50% after full day.
Che Kirila said:
Do you mean you applied that after special mode "Battery Saver" as additions to it? That standard mode was enough for me to keep my battery charge mostly over 50% after full day.
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Yep, that's what I ment. I identified already one of the drainers - my Openvpn client is consuming quite a lot. After switching to Blockada (as AdBlocker) battery consumption is quite okay.
But let's see what can be achieved by further optimization.
Try to use the private DNS setting instead, I figured this would save even more battery than a locally hosted VPN
TimLux said:
Try to use the private DNS setting instead, I figured this would save even more battery than a locally hosted VPN
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I will try, but one after the other. Otherwise I don't know what was a good setting.
Seems like I found descent settings to make battery last longer. So let's see how this turns out during the week (this is my normal use case - mail, some music, business stuff, photos; I don't play!).
I'll let u know what I did, so maybe others can profit as well.
While in standby/mails/some browsing the drain is descent. While listening to some music using BT the drain is quite visible as you can see.
What?? When you use the device it uses more battery then when it sleeps? crazy
b1337 said:
What?? When you use the device it uses more battery then when it sleeps? crazy
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LOL - sorry, maybe misleading. Yes, I used it for reading mail, some websites. So maybe I should have written moderate use.
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Which CPU mode do you use? I typically use "on demand"
What can I use to check to see what's causing my phone to not go into deep sleep mode at night or during the day. My batter all of the sudden is draining way too fast and almost dies at night.
Inside your settings there should be app called battery/ device health/ digital well being
It keeps track of app usage and battery drainage (this works if you dont have custom mods)
next it could be that your device is running in performance mode the whole time
flairepathos.info said:
Inside your settings there should be app called battery/ device health/ digital well being
It keeps track of app usage and battery drainage (this works if you dont have custom mods)
next it could be that your device is running in performance mode the whole time
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I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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But better battery stats will use more of your battery since its logging everything, all the time. And has your phone always been draining fast or is this something new?
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But better battery stats will use more of your battery since its logging everything, all the time. And has your phone always been draining fast or is this something new?
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I know it will but I can at least see what's going on for the short term. No, this just seemed to start about a week ago so I'm trying to figure out what new apps I may have installed.
steelersmb said:
I have power-saving mode turned off. I'm not sure about the app listed above. I don't see anything in settings. I just installed Better Battery Stats which I used to use a long time ago to see if that can tell me anything.
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Leave power management disabled; ID and deal with each battery hog on a case by case basis.
Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker can be useful.
Karma Firewall. Package Disabler (not on Playwhore).
For starters:
Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase... prime suspects.
Playstore, wretched apk it is.
Google play Services is another one to watch, try disabling it. A lot of apps are dependencies of it.
Any cloud apps.
All carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback
WhatsApp, FB, etc, take out the trash.
Carrier update app, kill it if you don't want OTA updates jammed down your throat.
blackhawk said:
Leave power management disabled; ID and deal with each battery hog on a case by case basis.
Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker can be useful.
Karma Firewall. Package Disabler (not on Playwhore).
For starters:
Google backup Transport, Framework and Google Firebase... prime suspects.
Playstore, wretched apk it is.
Google play Services is another one to watch, try disabling it. A lot of apps are dependencies of it.
Any cloud apps.
All carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback
WhatsApp, FB, etc, take out the trash.
Carrier update app, kill it if you don't want OTA updates jammed down your throat.
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Would it be possible to explain to me why have an S21 if not to deactivate everything and make it a Nokia 3310. Stop using a smartphone, I have the solution ........... .
And if you have twrp and copy your system and vendore partition files to your pc you can also look in the priv-app section and their xmls to include apps to not run always