On a forum I'm a member off, a discussion started about many phones today that may struggle with this type of video content including importantly, the Z2.
Now I watch a fair bit of anime on my phone and a lot of it is encoded in this profile but I often watch 720p encodes and these are prefect on the Z2 as for 1080p videos I've only watched a couple but these were very smooth as well but I just want to see what other people's results maybe.
Just to be clear I am referring to 10bit encodes, if they were 8bit then it would be hardware decoded. The profile for 10bit encodes is also known as Hi10P.
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I have changed the title of the thread as it seems you are trying to start a discussion. If you did mean to ask a question then Q&A is the correct place for it.
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For 720p it's very smooth, no problem at all. :good:
For 1080p it may lag/stutter a bit in some scenes (usually the fast action scenes). But it's fairly smooth most of the time and very watchable.
I've tried a 720p h.265 video too, and it's smooth ^^;
I'm using MX Player.
I would have to check which one are 10-bit. But so far no problems using BS player and a Synology NAS. Will check when I get home.
I have a z2 and yes i agree with you ravdo 1080p movies some action scenes lag and stuttering i dont know why becasue samsung s3 s4 s5 was perfect on 1080p videos no lag and stutter i dont know why z2 does and also z2 plays 4k videos so interesting anyone can explain why or how solve this problem?
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Hello All,
I am running CWM and TNTlite 4.40. I am having issues playing video on it.. I tried playing the videos that it came with and some on them it would play no problem with the standard video player that it came with.. Then i tried loading my videos thru USB or microsd and it has a LAG.. I converted the video from 2GB mkv to Mp4. i used Rockplayer and it does the same thing.. The audio is fine but the video has a delay. Not sure what is going on or if it is the firmware it self. Can someone shed some light.
thanks in advance
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What is your video encoded at? If it's high profile H.264 you may have issues depending on resolution (and at 2GB, I'm guessing it's not a 480p video!)
A program called MediaInfo (free) will tell you how your video is encoded - if you see anything like "[email protected]", it's too much for the Tegra 2 chip to handle. It will do [email protected] with some tweaks to settings (like no p frames). One of my other posts (shold be able to search under my profile if you're really interested) has Handbrake settings for a good 720p video encode that runs like butter and isn't a space hog either.
To be safe, at the moment I'm starting this one at Q&A; but if enough useful info is gathered, or, if the mods see it fitting, I would like to move this thread to "General".
if i'm using some farmer terms, plz feel free to correct me so that the final summary is understandable for eveybody.
So the questions are:
1. Which video/multimedia player is the best for android?
- For example which one plays the most audio/video formats,
- Which one gives you the most flexibility as for screen size, zoom, aspect ratio.
2. Which (preferably free) converter to use?
2.1 What is the maximum capability of SGSII?
- How many bitrates etc. can it handle with its mighty processor? How many bitrates and other hd settings are necessary for sgsii.
Please comment
Try dice player..not free though but u can try it for a few days before purchase.
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Only an answer to #2, no experience with other than the stock player (yet).
For conversions I use AviDemux.
It's multiplatform and some people I have referred to it reacted favourable as well.
Tried to get a full movie to the SII, no succes yet. (4GiB+).
Kind of curious myself if there is a filesystem which will allow that on a memorycard and leave it usable in the SII and Windows.
No best player for sgs2 ?????? i tried so many nth seems to work fully functional !
Im media playback fan my self, but just to lazy to make guides or explain alot.
1. My favorite players from market
mVideoplayer for daily use and
Diceplayer and or Moboplayer (for rare videos that don't work with hardware decoding and need software decoder)
2.0 I use MeGUI for video conversion encoding to MKV high profile x264.
2.1 SGS2 can playback "MKV high profile x264" 720p @ 60fps and 1080p @ 30fps
I use Handbrake (freeware) to convert my HD videos to 800x448 (or whatever aspect ratio the original video is) and 1000kbps (I don't use TVout, so I don't really need the extra resolution).
Since CM7's video player doesn't support subtitles which I need, I use MoboPlayer and mVideoPlayer to play my videos.
For reference, after I watched a 20min video encoded at the above settings (brightness was at ~50%), my battery lost 3-4% of its charge, which in my opinion is pretty good.
Players that are able to show subtitle on TV screen
Stonos said:
I use Handbrake (freeware) to convert my HD videos to 800x448 (or whatever aspect ratio the original video is) and 1000kbps (I don't use TVout, so I don't really need the extra resolution).
Since CM7's video player doesn't support subtitles which I need, I use MoboPlayer and mVideoPlayer to play my videos.
For reference, after I watched a 20min video encoded at the above settings (brightness was at ~50%), my battery lost 3-4% of its charge, which in my opinion is pretty good.
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I've already tested both players that you mentioned above and I can't get get any subtitle on TV , just on the phone's screen. Any suggestions of players that can do what I need?
Hi, I know there has been some discussion about this already but I dont think this has been properly resolved.
I am fully aware of the tegra 2 video decoding limitations so lets not get into a discussion about that.
Basically, on the website Samsung suggest this can play 1080p video and there are various videos floating about suggesting it can plan youtube videos in 1080p format.
Now, here's the rub....
If you play a video in none desktop mode it plays great but this isnt in 1080p format, this is pretty obvious if you pump it out the HDMI. If you attempt to play it straight out of the browser, stock or Dolphin it stutters in 1080p and is just about watch-able in 720p.
So, I am wondering exactly what 1080p video sammy are actually referencing to?
On a side note however I have found that DICE and MXplayer do a really good job or playing main and high profile MKV's to the point where 720p high profiles are watchable at stock cpu 1 gig and smooth at 1.6 gig overclock (neither is hardware decoding, all done by CPU).
wow 60 views and no replies... ghost town in here...
Samsung simply repeats what Nvidia states which is the tegra 2 can only play 1080p video encoded in Baseline profile. The problem is nobody uses Baseline profile as its obsolete and has poor compression.
Youtube certainly does not use Baseline profile when it re-codes videos uploaded to its servers and that is problem....
Yes the video decoder in the tegra 2 sucks balls.
I dont think that is right, flash 3.2 is supposed to have tegra 2 hardware acceleration and should be able to play 1080p youtube stuff through a browser.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
See here, it still states full 1080p video playback, if it cannot play youtube 1080p then you have to wonder what it is refferring to exactly?
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I dont think that is right, flash 3.2 is supposed to have tegra 2 hardware acceleration and should be able to play 1080p youtube stuff through a browser.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab/10.1/spec.html
See here, it still states full 1080p video playback, if it cannot play youtube 1080p then you have to wonder what it is refferring to exactly?
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Just because it has hardware acceleration of a codec does not mean it can play all 1080p video as explained with h.264. If the video is encoded with too high of a bitrate the tegra 2 hardware accelerator chokes, and it does not take much to choke it....
Unfortunately advertisement is inherently deceptive as the case with the link you provided.
Does anyone have any more info regarding this? I really thought that with the 3.2 Honeycomb update they would optimize the Tegra 2 GPU more, but it still cant play any stream or youtube video at 1080p.
i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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i have the TF101, which unfortunately only plays 720p and 1080p files very choppy (someone told me you you re-encode them for the tf101 but meh).
do you guys think the prime will bw able t play such MKVs with no issue? im talking about normal 72ßp/108ßp mkvs which you can dl all ovwer the net, not specially encoded ones.
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Anandtech says it's amazing at playing high quality video. this was an issue for me.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/5
crap, guess now i have to buy the prime
Plus in the what would you like to know about the prime thread a member already tested this as he has a prime already. It was mkv and 1080p. Played flawlessly. He made a video on it. He has at least 3 you tube vids reviewing the prime hands on.
Check out his videos in that thread n you will see.
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tegra3 has the ability to play high profile 1080p videos, the prime should do just fine with pretty much anything you can throw at it...
Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Tegra 3 may support 1080p and all, but question is, if default video player, that uses HW decoding, supports MKV format. My iPad 2 supports all kinds of HD, as long as it's in proper format. MKVs play very choppy if I use a player for any format other than iPad supported.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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Default player doesn't even matter. Even if a format not supported, there are always 3rd party players which will. The member here that has a prime used a 3rd. Party player to play that 1080P MKV file. Which it played perfectly. No default player in any tablet plays all formats. That's the great thing about getting a good 3rd. Prty player that will.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
When someone goes to play with a demo at gamestop, they should take with them a micro sd that has a high profile 1080p mkv and see how that plays on the prime. They should add other video players on the card and install them and see which one plays better with the high profile mkv. Yes I know that reviews have said this or that, but having someone that is not part of any review circle would be grateful to many.
I would do this but I'm not popping my head in that gamestop store after getting that dump.
this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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this guy plays a high profile mkv in his review...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8d4tPW_6Cw&feature=player_detailpage#t=323s
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That guy posted two above you. lol
oh hahaha. wasn't paying attention i guess =P
I wonder how Prime will play avi files. I find that playing avi on TF101 is fine but the quality is very bad - I get a lot of artifacts - like it had a grid of dots over it. Probably because players use simplified decoding algoritms? Or maybe it's because Tegra2 lacks NEON? I also think it should be able to send 1080p signal to the screen even if the video is below 1080p (and different than 720p) - otherwise it will be scaled twice - once to 720p by the Prime and second time by the monitor itself - it will probably degrade quality. (well, but on the other hand I can just stick to 720p and 1080p videos which should be great)
Tegra3 does have NEON so no worries.
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default player plays the video fine, but for some reason theres no sound.
bsplay, mxplayer and rock player are all HD accelerated players.
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I had this same problem with a 1080p .MOV file off of my DSLR as well as a MKV file. I haven't tried mxplayer, but I will when I get home. I've been looking forward to being able to play MKV files without having to convert or manage with iTunes. Like Sinatra sang, "I'll do it my way!"
somehow I can't copy mkv to my asus prime... it keeps saying explorer error and it restarts the explorer
I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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I have been playing around with my Prime for the last 5 days, especially in regards with video. Here are my findings:
- Not all files can be played back with HW decoding.
- mkv containers does not seem to be playable in the default player, only 3rd part, like mx video player.
- 720p mkv plays back almost flawlessly with some initial stutter in SW, 1080p does not.
- mp4 and avi seem to be HW accelerated by mx video player.
I am not entirely sure on what seem to be the problem. My initial reaction is that it is a problem with the container formats. However, I have not checked whether the videos, that I have tried to play, have some exotic encoding settings, which the software controling the HW decoder, does not recognize.
Perhaps mkw HW acceleration support broke in one of the updates I received, when I booted my prime for first time monday.
What are your experiences, especially with 1080p?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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The first three high profile 720p MKV files I tried with BSPlayer worked flawlessly. Same videos will not play at all on my Xoom.
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Try the same videos but with BSplayer ... let us know if that works ?
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Will do when I get home. I will also try the same videos on my SGSII for comparison.
My hunch is that the hw decoder refuses to decode the video stream. Perhaps this is controlled entirely by the android system and not the video player app.
Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do? I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p Help please :crying: Sorry bad english
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The best video format for the Sony Tablet S is MPEG-4 (mp4) encoded using a H.264 CODEC with a pixel size of 1280 x 720, a bit rate of 1500 kbps, and a frame rate of 29.97 fps. The video's audio should be stereo AAC with a sample rate of 44100 Hz and a bit rate of 96000 bps. I use and recommend Handbrake for converting videos and MX Player Pro for playing videos.
RulezMac said:
Hi! I'm trying to find a way to play 720p videos smoothly on my Tablet S but I can't find a proper bitrate for it. I tried 4000 but it's still laggy. On some tutorials I found they were saying to use 1500 as bitrate but that is ridiculous. A 720p video with bitrate 1500 will result in a lot of dead pixels. So what can I do?
I'm using Format Factory to convert the MKV videos to MP4 H.264/AVC 720p
Help please :crying:
Sorry bad english
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Actually you can just download Dice Player or BS Player Lite. This two video player can play any mkv files I load into it. even upto 1080p :laugh: :good:
1080p are terribly laggy
RulezMac said:
1080p are terribly laggy
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But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
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But still you can now play your 720p vids w/o converting them :good:
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Ok I tried some 720p MKV files and the sound isn't synchronized with the video. Also I still noticed some lag.
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Try QQPlayer. I had a lot of problems with video playing slower than audio when using Dice and MX, but QQ seemed to clear them up. Other than that, try using a video converter (such as Handbrake) and use the Apple TV preset. Works for me.
I'm also disappointed by the Tegra 2 performance in video. Here are some thoughts and questions.
From my personal tries, all video players (MX, BSPlayer, Dice) have about the same performance (perhaps BSPlayer with ARMv7 plugin is a little better). Does every video player Tegra 2 video playback implementation are based on the same library?
Is there some way to make some low-level (asm) optimization that would help? I would gladly take a look if there was a way to do it.
I've noticed that even 720P High profile have some lag! Not very serious, but noticeable!! For example, Rise of the Silver Surfer 720P-HP trailer (see h264info.com/clips.html) lags at several points in the video. It may be clearly seen with BSPlayer, when displaying FPS information ('(i)' button during video playback).
1080P Baseline Profile seems to play smoothly (and H/W acceleration is enabled).
Video players disables H/W acceleration for High Profile 1080P so, of course it is terribly laggy. Is it a technical requirement? Isn't there a way to force H/W acceleration for Full HD High profile videos, even if that wouldn't mean full speed?