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Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
Second thing, when I am selection anything more than 8MP, in manual mode - the option of scene selection gets disabled? Why???
15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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duk3r said:
15.5 and 20.7 mp disable scenes and hdr. Wasn't the same in z1?
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agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
xperiax10.awesome said:
agree, but how about Image Quality - my Z1 giving better results than Z2?
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You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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zodiac100 said:
You're the only one I think with this problem. Most agree that image quality is considerably improved from z1 especially lowlight. Not sure what else to stay.
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Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
xperiax10.awesome said:
Dude - check this thread below and compare the pictures, m not JUST saying - I have both Z1 and Z2 to compare !!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
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I too have both phones. The Z2 is a definite improvement in IQ compared to the Z1, low light shots are way better! you must have a duff device as MOST agree that the camera is definitely one area it excels over the Z1 for sure.
But camera module of z1 and 2 are still the same correct? If thats the case then I believe there are some massive update to the software. Hope it will come to Z1 eventually. I did notice the file size seems to be bigger than z2, so maybe shots are less compressed now.
Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
se1000 said:
Maybe you have a bad device? I'm sure there is some variance to these components.
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can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
xperiax10.awesome said:
Hi Guys,
I recently switched from Xperia Z1 to Z2 and m really disappointed with the Camera performance. Ideally Z1 and Z2 camera should give me same result but somehow my Z2's pictures arn't cmng good.
I am talking about night/low light shots, even my Z1 is giving me better result than Z2 !!! Is my set faulty or everybody is facing this issue?
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I too switched from Z1 to Z2. IMO, image quality on the Z2 is much better than Z1 in night / low light / indoor shots. In daylight shots however the Z1 shots are sharper (maybe due to different processing), Z2 shots (daylight) tend to be softer especially towards the edges / distant objects, but have less noise than Z1. Overall, I think Z2 camera is better but needs some tweaking around for daylight shots.
BTW, I'm on second Z2 (first one had touchscreen issues) and both had similar camera results vs Z1 (which was also replaced thrice before).
xperiax10.awesome said:
can I ask Sony to replace it? How will I justify???
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That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
se1000 said:
That would all depend on how you bought the device and what your local return policies look like.
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Will chk tomorrow with Sony Singapore.
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Hi everybody, I am hesitating between the LG nexus 5 and the sony Xperia Z2.
I know the nexus 5 is a great deal but the Z2 waterproof and 20.7mp camera just make me hesitate for a 300$.
Is the camera of Z2 is superior to te nexus 5 to make a very big difference?
Somedoy have test the two? what is your review?
Thank you!
LeGenDz R3DeaDz said:
Hi everybody, I am hesitating between the LG nexus 5 and the sony Xperia Z2.
I know the nexus 5 is a great deal but the Z2 waterproof and 20.7mp camera just make me hesitate for a 300$.
Is the camera of Z2 is superior to te nexus 5 to make a very big difference?
Somedoy have test the two? what is your review?
Thank you!
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i found that the quality of the Z2 camera is much better than almost all other flagships of this year
the LG had extremly acurate focus but quality was poor and was only good in daylight, other than that the ui is quite nice and movies and games looks super sharp with that 2K display however that 2k display looks terrible sometimes and battery life isnt exactly stable, sometimes i can go days and some i can go hours, other than that its built nice and feels nice
the nexus 5 was quite good but wasnt amazing all around, literaly just android, nothing special aside the build quality and being the first to get android as it is a google nexus
The Z2 was quite good, the only problem i found was 4k recording has only ever hit 31mins ( avarage of 15 mins)
the Z2 although this damndable camera heating issues which SONY said they were working on fixing is quite anoying however the camera is great to play with and alows me to spew out near profetional quality shots
other than the camera the Z2 has style, a great firmware and a useful theme engine, aswell as also looking quit elegant, aside that the only other thing is that realy vibrant screen
take note i have the Z2 and also take note that the Z2 has faced majour manufacturing issues so the first 7 batches were terrible, (acording to sony they are fine now)
Hi!
As you can see on the IFA, the new Xperia Z3 has got ISO 12800 in camera. And I have got a question. Is possible to get ISO 12800 on Xperia Z2? Because hardware is the same like in Z3 so difference is only in software, yes? Will it be possible to convert? Because I don't know what to do. Wait for Xperia Z3 or buy Z2 and wait for mod.
Fempter said:
Hi!
As you can see on the IFA, the new Xperia Z3 has got ISO 12800 in camera. And I have got a question. Is possible to get ISO 12800 on Xperia Z2? Because hardware is the same like in Z3 so difference is only in software, yes? Will it be possible to convert? Because I don't know what to do. Wait for Xperia Z3 or buy Z2 and wait for mod.
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We will see soon.Im almost sure that we could get the option for our Z2's.Stay tuned 1 more week and we will find out for sure.Dont rush for the Z3 :highfive:
What's ISO exactly? Yeah I know it and heard about it a lotta times before. But what exactly is it? I mean if I have the ISO 92387459328756238765723238759872 setting in my camera, does it mean it's the best camera in the world?
No.
High iso sensitivity is good in the dark, higher iso means more lit up images, but as I experience high iso in phone makes picture look like it's painted with watercolors.
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guys,
any update on this?
love to get my hands on the ability to capture pics at iso 12800.
What's the max ISO in Z2?
elkolodj said:
What's the max ISO in Z2?
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3200 is max ISO on Xperia Z2.
Also i want to say, dont get high hope for this ISO settings, because z3 have much wider lens (new g lens series on it), and it could be hardware features, because wider angle lens is able to pick up more light then narrow one on Z1/Z2.
But never say never, i just want to let you know that camera had more upgrade on z3 then you think, so dont get high hope for this one.
because z3 have much wider lens (new g lens series on it)
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Where did you read this? Because I can't find any info about this. Yes, I know that sony on website tell to us about his wider lens in Z3 but as I know, this is between Z3 and any other phone (not Z2, Z1). So there is not any hardware difference, maybe in overclocked CPU but I think it is also software change.
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Where did you read this? Because I can't find any info about this. Yes, I know that sony on website tell to us about his wider lens in Z3 but as I know, this is between Z3 and any other phone (not Z2, Z1). So there is not any hardware difference, maybe in overclocked CPU but I think it is also software change.
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At first brush, Sony's newest flagship sports the same 20.7 MP Exmor sensor with 1.12 micron pixels as its predecessor, the Z2, but Sony touted that the kit now has the newer generation G Lens optics, and other improvements under the hood, such as being the first flagship that can boast up to 12800 ISO sensitivity in night mode.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-Sony-Xperia-Z3-camera-samples-are-here_id60188
No, really. All that Sony needed to do was make the best better, and it has done so here thanks to a few choice tweaks. For starters there's a new 25mm G lens for wide angle shots - with an Xperia Z2 on hand, you can immediately see how much more the Z3 fits in frame, which is good news for all those group shots.
http://www.stuff.tv/sony/sony-xperia-z3/review
New lens and probably sensor (which is more sensitive)
I guess there's no news on this :/
Considering it only reaches those 12800 in some modes, with a reduced resolution and, most of all, that the low light sensitivity gets much worse after unlocking the bootloader (wiping the DRM-protected camera algorithms), it sounds to me like at least a good part of it is software.
Some touted features of newer model cameras have been made available to previous devices with no trouble, can only hope that's the case with this.
The higher ISO and much better looks (IMO) are the only reasons why I'm looking at a Z3 instead of the, much cheaper by now, Z2. I wish that feature could be brought to the older device.
Xpeeia Z2 camera total ISO is 6800 but in manual its limited to 3200
Maybe with some camera modding we can unlock the total iso
Envious_Data said:
Xpeeia Z2 camera total ISO is 6800 but in manual its limited to 3200
Maybe with some camera modding we can unlock the total iso
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Any news on this? Could we mod the Z2 cam to shoot at 12.800 ISO?
It's true the Z2 max is 6.400 ISO and it's quite a high value for a mobile, but it could be fine to reach 12.800 ISO like Z3... I think it's actually just a software matter...
juanmaasecas said:
Any news on this? Could we mod the Z2 cam to shoot at 12.800 ISO?
It's true the Z2 max is 6.400 ISO and it's quite a high value for a mobile, but it could be fine to reach 12.800 ISO like Z3... I think it's actually just a software matter...
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No, Z2s hardware is only capable to 6800
Z3 has a slightly different camera sensor which alows it to 12800
You could probably modify the camera app to show higher values but i dont know how to do that
Envious_Data said:
No, Z2s hardware is only capable to 6800
Z3 has a slightly different camera sensor which alows it to 12800
You could probably modify the camera app to show higher values but i dont know how to do that
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Honestly, I don't think 6.400 or 12.800 are hardware actual isos in any of these phones. Even in DSLR, usually their highest isos are interpolated by software. For example in my Canon 550d (t2i), the highest real iso is 6.400, but you can activate 12.800 iso option and if you install "magic lantern" hack, you can even activate 25.600.
But you're right, probably it's a very deep feature in the camera driver or something like that and it's almost impossible to "port". And could we try to use exactly the same camera files in z3?
Someone posted comparison pictures for nighshots with z2 and z3.You guys probably saw them and i can say that there is almost no difference between the two phones and the ISO difference as well.Its not of a big deal afterall ^^
Hi
I have a Z3C, wondering whether to upgrade to the Z5C. Specifically, are the following issues with Z3C camera better/solved:
1) Camera startup time from phone off to photo taken using shutter button to power up device. My Z3C can take 5secs plus
2) Camera crash issues - mainly when device is on stamina mode 'unfortunately the camera has stopped' fixed on Z5C?
3) Seriously noisy images even in good light on superior auto when viewing 100% crop is Z5C any better?
4) Do we still suffer from excessive post-processing of images on Z5C ?
Camera quality issues on Z3C would be my only real reasons for upgrading.
Nigel
Same here.
Flash a camera mod and ur camera will become much better,
I flashed camera mod v8 on my z1 and my camera is much better than z2, s4, s5
Samsung only better at low light because they have very strong flash
Thats all i have to compare it with, but you can guess, s5 camera is better than z3
Gamer4Life said:
Flash a camera mod and ur camera will become much better,
I flashed camera mod v8 on my z1 and my camera is much better than z2, s4, s5
Samsung only better at low light because they have very strong flash
Thats all i have to compare it with, but you can guess, s5 camera is better than z3
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No, Samsung better at low light because using F/1.9 instead of 2.0 that sony uses... LOL :good:
Sony have still not learnt.
cheetah2k said:
No, Samsung better at low light because using F/1.9 instead of 2.0 that sony uses... LOL :good:
Sony have still not learnt.
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without flash, samsung photos come out very dark, but with xperia z1+ photos come out brighter than real life
cheetah2k said:
No, Samsung better at low light because using F/1.9 instead of 2.0 that sony uses... LOL :good:
Sony have still not learnt.
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... A 0.1 aperture difference is marginal.
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without flash, samsung photos come out very dark, but with xperia z1+ photos come out brighter than real life
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I disagree.
I hardly use a flash with my S6 and Note 5 and the photos are simply brilliant...
I owned the Z1, Z2, Z3 and Z3C and they always suffered heavy pixilation.
The Z series cams are excellent in daylight though. I am keen to see how much Sony have improved with the Z5 series sensors
Its all the post processing that degrades the photo quality from sony camera phones. Amazes me that the competition often gets better results from the same sony-made sensors!
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Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
bye bye Sony
Very disappointed with Sony :crying:
Xz2 compact is not compact anymore. Thick (12mm), tall (135mm), no headphone jack, fingerprint reader on the back. What the f*ck is Sony doing?
The only fast compact device on the market is no more. Well, back to Samsung
NO, I'm really sad about this, but at least we have the XZ1 Compact to upgrade to, which seems like the best Compact they've ever made, basically updating SOC and better, matte, metal back/sides compared to the slippery, glossy sides we have on the X Compact...the lack of headphone jack and side fingerprint scanner on the XZ2's are really unfortunate changes imo
Kianush said:
Today Sony announced Xperia XZ2 and XZ2 compact at the MWC 2018 so I wanted to have a look at X compact users' opinions (like myself) and see if we are deciding to let XC go or not yet...
So here's my opinion :
In the beginning when I the leaked photos I didnt like the thickness of the XZ2c but now that I have seen the Hands-on videos Im becomin more intrested in buying it (Video here)
And my other reason is that the screen is now HDR 1080p and 5" so it means more colors and more usabality!
There's also a better camera and better front facin speakers.
Btw,
Dynamic vibrations are not available in Xz2 compact
And although it has dual front cameras, its only 5 mp!!!!
So if I buy it, it would be because of the new looks amd much much better gpu performance and of course HDR screen, otherwise, XC is doin a great job for me specially now that it has android Oreo...
Feel free to share your thoughts!
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5" screen is not compact. I was already pushing my limits when I started with Z1c, (127mm tall), 4 years ago. I only upgraded to Z3c and Xc because they haven't gotten any bigger. I won't do 135mm..
No.
No. No real innovations, but it's gotten bigger and lost features like head phone jack and fingerprint on the side. The camera has to be on par with Samsung and iPhone to even consider the XZ2.
Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Maybe XZ3 Compact they ll back to the road, is there any real one-handed phone that we can expect this year?
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Yeah, for me after a lot of reading i just think xz1 is not worth the cost, xz2 compact is like a new model phone. I am just going to wait for xz3 or any other compact version.
My next phone will probably not be from Sony. If I convert to a "normal" size it doesn't have to be Sony anymore.