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Hello all,
i am totally new in the world of roots and roms.
i managed to root and enable sideloading on my atrix! yay!
1) but what can i do now?
i am thinking about installing GreyBlur
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039763)
2) can someone (who is lil patient) explain me what i would get? will my phone be faster? can i damage it since iam still new in this area?
3) anyone knows a good article/post/thread/anything where i can start getting into this root/roms area? so i can learn about it?
thanks for all your help, you are awesome.
Greetz
EDIT:
I bought an att Atrtix and got version 4.1.83 running
Smintz said:
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1) but what can i do now?
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I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Thank you for nothing I guess. To answer your question! Irooted This phone because I want side loading enabled.
scoob8000 said:
No offense, but you shouldn't be rooting/flashing "roms" if you don't know what your doing.
It's very easy to end up with an unusable device.
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Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
CaelanT said:
I have a question to you! Why did you root if you didn't know what you wanted to do afterwards? Rooting is not just so you can feel the "cool factor", and the vast majority of us know before we root why we want to do it, otherwise...................WHY do it???
Why did you bother? Your own answer should close this thread, and everything else you mentioned can be found by reading the forums!
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
Yea, he may be a noob and not know the politics of posting before reading, but I bet each one of us did at one time too. What we should be doing is just politely pointing him in the right direction on how to learn more about all things root.
Such as http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972423 being a good place to start.
Understand though, if you screw up your phone, there is no one to blame but yourself. Read how to recover from a soft brick and hard brick before jumping in. Read all posts VERY carefully and all the way through. That's how I learned, and many others before me. And first and foremost, before asking questions about anything, do a quick search of the treads to see if it has already been asked and answered before. If you don't find your question, feel free to ask and ignore those that troll the treads.
Good luck my man.
Vangelis13 said:
I find your responses a bit harsh guys.. Are there laws / regulations on who can / should root, profile boxes that have to be ticked before one can decide to have a go at unleashing the full power of their phone?
Nobody was born with the knowledge, we all started from scratch at some stage. There are enough warnings that explain how to apply the root methods that are offered in the threads.
Here you go OP:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/07/13/8-great-apps-every-rooted-android-user-should-know-about/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oted-user-should-know-about-part-2-apps-9-16/
Have fun, try not to brick your phone!!
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Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
Gr8Danes said:
Funny......had to have been writing at the same time......at least we were on the same page.
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Indeed!
Smintz said:
Thx. I know that. I managed to get everything working i wanted ;-) and everyone has to start at one ponit, right. That's why I would not do it if I don't want to. I want to learn more about it so can you tell me a good thread or webside to start with?
Can anyone tell means about that rom pls.
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I am running Gingerblur which is very similar. I think it is a great ROM and one of the few so far for the Atrix. If you like some of the Blur stuff such as the gallery and social networking items, you have to understand that you will be losing them with the new ROM and going with the stock Android gallery. However, if you do a backup of your current ROM before flashing, you can always revert back if you don't like it.
Big thing, screen shots help for me. And the ROM developers do a great job at giving the details of their ROMs in their posts or websites.
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Ouch.......poor guy is new and gets slammed instantly for wondering what all he can do with his phone. I think we were all in the same boat not too long ago.
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I agree, we all have to learn, but the vast majority of us started by reading through threads which have all the info about how to flash sbf's, root, sideload, flash themes, what is and is not possible, etc. We then tried things by following the instructions.
I'm not, and was not, trying to be a ****. I am however very blunt! Everything the OP needs is already there if he/she looks. The forums are full of "repeat" threads because people are basically too lazy to read and research for themselves before asking what has already been asked numerous times.
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thanks for all your help. its time to start reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099846
I have been rooting and using custom ROMs since the earlier Galaxy Captivate days, so I consider myself fairly skilled in the art.
Today I set out to root and put CM9 on my wife's I777.
Got the phone rooted with the Zedomax kernel and I have superuser on the phone.
Reboot into recovery and I get CWM V5.0.2.3 All good, right?
Got the CM9 rom on the micro SD card and I select select INSTALL Zip from sdcard
Hit the powerbutton and I get a black screen with a hat and an orange circle.
To only way to get out is to hit the Power button.
None of the options work.
Only way to recover is to remove battery.
What is going on here? I must have missed something.
TIA Robert
Use the home key to select and don't use zedomaxs stuff. There is a reason his thread is locked here. His stuff is pure garbage
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Home button? LOL
Anyway, before I wipe anything on that phone should I abandon this and use a different root method?
It is pretty hot and humid outside and I don't want to spend the next few days outside because I mess up her phone.
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... don't use zedomaxs stuff. There is a reason his thread is locked here. His stuff is pure garbage
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Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
sbi1 said:
Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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You got his stuff from a different website, Used his guides and stuff. Why would you come here for support for his bull****?
Thats why.
Want support, use guides and tools from here.
MotoMudder77 said:
You got his stuff from a different website, Used his guides and stuff. Why would you come here for support for his bull****?
Thats why.
Want support, use guides and tools from here.
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I didn't come here for support for anyone's "bull****", I just hijacked (my apology) this thread to ask why you guys think it's bull****. As I said - not trying to attack anyone or anything or any method, I asked a genuine question. One would think you could spell out a genuine reason why it's crap. Too bad your tone rules this great forum. Just a simple question...geez. Thanks anyway.
sbi1 said:
Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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Ever since he posted his kernel it has caused problems with people losing wifi and such. Then most of the new people come here complaining about the problems. Its best to use what is on this site to root and find a more stable kernel.
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wavemaster00 said:
Home button? LOL
Anyway, before I wipe anything on that phone should I abandon this and use a different root method?
It is pretty hot and humid outside and I don't want to spend the next few days outside because I mess up her phone.
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If your just going to flash cm9 then I wouldn't worry about using another method as your gonna override the kernel anyways. So just go ahead and wipe and flash and enjoy
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sbi1 said:
Care to elaborate on that? Not attacking by any mean, just trying to learn why you think that way. It worked fine for me, but maybe I am missing something.
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Zedomax's first priority is building web sites that will make him money. He is only secondarily a developer of firmware, and evidently fairly talented. However, his mode of operation is to build a website with rooting tools for a phone, promote it for a few days, and then you hardly ever see or hear from him again. He's already moved on to another phone and another web site. So his tools get old and become unsupported. Some of the firmware he provides works as advertised, and some of it causes serious problems. Once he develops something, it seems he doesn't even care to determine if it is bug free. In particular for this phone, his rooting method seems to work, at least most of the time. However, his unrooting method causes untold problems, and even soft bricks. And people come here to ask how to fix the problems. Some have had fairly serious problems that are rather difficult to correct from using his tools. We've seen so many problems associated with his stuff that when we see the name zedomax, we immediately think, "ok I know what your problem is."
Thank you yoderk and creepyncrawly.
First of all I would just like to say that moto's post was uncalled for, this is a great site but i swear sometimes the people here can be a bit rude. anyway I agree you should stay away from zedomax's stuff ( no offense to him) you can use this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081 i used it and vouch for it it has all the info youll need or use jivy root guide too Hth
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
BlindSession said:
Hi Everyone,
I just got my Galaxy S2 back, model number GT-19100M. I had sent it in to get it unlocked, the sim and the carrier unlock. I assume that this would be rooted to have accomplished this?
They had an issue unlocking the carrier and had to reflash the phone to gingerbread before they were able to unlock the carrier. So I got it baack and the version is 4.0.3 now.
So I did some googling about how to tell if it was rooted. Now, from my understanding that to flash the phone with a rom it would have to be rooted. So I came across about using Root Checker, So i installed it and it said it wasnt rooted, I then installed ConnectBot and the thread (not from here) said that if a prompt came up with a # then it meant it was rooted, and if it came up with a $ at the prompt then it wasnt rooted. Low and behold it showed a $.
So all in all how do I tell if it was rooted? It cost me 50$ and well over a week and a half to get it back. So were the two applications correct and if not what is the right way to tell if it was rooted or is there something I should notice on the phone?
Thanks for any and all help on this situation.
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1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
Sun90 said:
1) u can check ur kernel and see.
2) also u can check for an app SuperSU or Superuser's presence in app drawer, if present ur phone is rooted else no.
3) u can install some apps like root explorer/browser etc and see, since they wrk only with root prievilage
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Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
BlindSession said:
Hi thanks for the reply,
I downloaded and ran SuperSu and got this pop up "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem!". So then I downloaded Root Browser Lite, i opened it up and got a list of folders. So now I'm confused, I have SuperSU saying that there is a problem, and with Root Browser Lite it runs and gives me a list of folders.
My kernel version is as follows: 3.0.15-I9100MUGLD3-CL377577 [email protected] #3
From my understanding and please correct me if i am wrong, but to do both unlocks (sim and carrier) that it needs to be rooted?
Before I handed the phone over to the computer store to unlock it, I had asked if it would be rooted and they said yes, but i didnt copy all the stuff in the about phone, but I was supplied with my unlock code to use when i pop a different sim in it.
Also, when I looked at the messages when i got it back that there was a text from rogers and the carrier that i was using was Virgin, so it looks as though it was properly unlocked.
I dont have anyone near me at the moment with a different carrier sim card (My girlfriend uses Telus, I suppose I could pop hers in but she might throw a fit and think that I could screw her iphone up lol)
So what would be my next plan of action?
Thanks for your reply
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well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
Sun90 said:
well by seeing ur kernel it seems that its a stock kernel hence ur phone is not rooted.
may be after unlocking ur phone they might have flashed the stock kernel back to unroot ur phone i suppose
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After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
BlindSession said:
After thinking for a moment, this does look like the kernel that was previously on it, I had played around with it before hand and I remember some things and the kernel looks familiar..
Well I believe you are correct that they reflashed it with the stock rom...Why they would do that is beyond me lol.
So I guess I am going to start rooting this on my own, would you please direct me to rooting this model? I know I can search this forum but I have done that before and noticed different ways of doing it. I just want to make sure that i do this properly using the proper thread and if i can do this properly then Im going to start on the path to rooting my S3 , So i guess my s2 is my practice
I do appreciate your replies and help with my situation
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the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
Sun90 said:
the link below would be the simple on to start with rooting for u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746794
read the OP completely to understand the procedure and then proceed
good luck
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Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
BlindSession said:
Thanks alot for your help I'll let you know how it goes I will be calling the computer store tomorrow that i used to question them on why they would do that after saying that it would be rooted lol
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Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
BlindSession said:
Wow this looks confusing on where do I start lol
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nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
Sun90 said:
nothing is confusing as long as u read and understand carefully what has been specified in those rooting method threads.
but still i would suggest u simply keep out of this rooting thing, if ur not sure about the same and unable to understand things about rooting properly
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I have read the rooting methods, and again reading it slower, I am not sure about this busybox thing, i think where i am getting confused because it doesnt seem to pop out to me saying if its ok to uninstall busybox and if i did would it still be rooted. I really dont some program running in the background to keep it rooted.
I have been writing software for over 5 years and i figured that this would be a walk in the park. Sit me infront of visual studio and i am a wiz with c#/Asp and sql, but with this i feel like complete noob and i am in actuality. Which is irritating me.
The reason behind having the desire to root this phone is because it should have been done when i got it unlocked 2) because with a rooted phone i have more options and control over this phone 3) because i dont know how and for being able to program that i should be able to do this. It seems like a different ball game and in all honesty knowledge is power and what i dont know how so it is a need to know how to do it. regardless if i wreck the phone, trial by fire i suppose. I cant learn if i dont attempt it and make the mistakes. When you learn how to do something and have come across making mistakes you tend to keep the knowledge more and appreciate what is learned.
Sorry, I got on my soap box on trying to justify doing this lol. But I do appreciate what you suggest. But Im going to try it and hopefully bring me out of my noob status lol.
i will keep you posted
Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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theunderling said:
Its not rocket science and what a load of rubbish about doing things wrong and wrecking your phone in order to learn.
What you do is read about other clowns wrecking their phones and dont do what they done-so you learn without any risk.
Just get rooted for now so you can use them fancy apps to get more control over you phone.Read about brickbug and look at some of the rom threads and also learn about cwm and odin.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
Thanks for the praise.....
I ask myself every day....is rooting really that difficult?.Is this xda or facebook?.Whats with "life stories" included in posts?.Have all them guys that created stickies/guides wasted their time cos noobs/donks like you dont read them?.
And guys like Sun90 are helpful and intelligent....theyve helped me out before.
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Forgive me for using the wrong words, I did not say to do things wrong and wreaking my phone. I should have phrased that differently, IF i do it wrong and wreck it somehow then it is a lessoned learned.I'm in no way out to wreck my phone, thats ridiculous. I have made many mistakes during programming that I have learned and remembered what not to do, some people learn the hard way to retain what they did wrong and not to repeat it. Not everyone learns the same way.
I completely understand about reading how others wreck their phone so i can learn without risk, and to read up on odin and brickbug, which is blatantly obvious.
As for fancy apps, you are kidding right? you think i want to root my phone to use fancy apps? I think not. i'm not some kid that likes shiney new things and to be the one to say "look what i got". That comment was utter disrespect. Maybe instead of trying to make me look like a dumbass you could be a little more helpful and not be so blantantly obvious on what i should do, which i already have started doing until i had to reply this.
Is this how you treat everyone that is starting to learn something new? You make obvious statements, mock by saying what isnt rocket science? I highly doubt that when you started doing this that you werent some dumbass in the beginning.
I appreciate the person who was replying to my questions and pointing me in the right direction, he was helpful. You were just being a ****. you know on forums dealing with c#/asp.net I dont act like you do to questions or statements that i feel are silly, especially to people just starting out. You must have been treated the way you treated me when you first started out, how many times did you feel like a dumbass from people that knew what they were talking about? probably still to this day in one way or another you are treated like an idiot. So instead of acting the way you were and still are treated, try acting decent and helpful and not counter-active.
I hope that there isn't more people acting like you did towards me to other people, if so then this isnt a place to learn.
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hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
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hey buddy chill for now , in XDA u will face all sort of people, which is quite common ma8.
as for as ur 'Busybox' thing is concern, this is what it means.
BusyBox is a software application that provides many standard Unix tools, much like the larger (but more capable) GNU Core Utilities. BusyBox is designed to be a small executable for use with the Linux kernel, which makes it ideal for use with embedded devices. It has been self-dubbed "The Swiss Army Knife of Embedded Linux".
it will provide u all necessary things to have access to root of ur phone, while SuperSU or Superuser grants necessary permissions to all those apps which need 'Root Access' to perform efficiently.
if u remove busybox then u will loose root access to ur phone for sure.
hope the above things ar clear for u for now
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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Hi Sun90,
You are absolutely right when it comes to types of people that I wil come across in this forum or any other forum for that matter, I just didnt expect someone to start flaming right off the bat.
Thank you for the explaination on 'BusyBox', I understand what you are saying. My concern was that I didnt want to have to rely on something that had to be constantly running on my phone to ensure that it stays rooted. I gather from what you said about buysbox that its just tools, and not something that constantly runs. The swiss army metaphor, makes sense.
I have searched through these forums and somethings that may be obvious and cut and dry to people that have done this, isnt always the case to everyone else. I get left with many questions after reading threads. I have read many threads here and throughout online on rooting. Some guides are easy, they tell you how but never the 'why'.
I have heard alot about odin, and I have read things where i plug my phone in and run a 'runme.bat' that does it all but explain why.
Today I'm going to be reading deeper on Odin and Clockworkmod and trying to find the correct secure and unsecure kernel. I hope to run across more people like you that actually are here to help and not wanting to show how much they know by being condescending to make themselves feel better about themselves.
In the end, for me, its not enough to do it but to know the whys behind it. Thank you for your patience and the help.
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:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
Sun90 said:
:laugh: u should not misundertand people's comments here in the first place ma8, but do take it positively, since everybody in XDA is willing to Help one another for sure, But some times the helping way which really Confuses the matter for sure
since i assume ur a man who is more hungry for indepth knowledge of things u come accross,which is really good in its own way, I wish u success for ur journey seeking the same here on XDA
Good Luck:good:
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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Well I just downloaded CF-Root-SGS2_XW_XEN_LP7-v5.4-CWM5.zip, and Odin3-ver3.5 and am about to follow Chainfire's thread with its step by step guide, i found his guide to be pretty insightful. Another thing I got confused on was the difference between I1900, I1900M and I found out that the only difference between the 2 was nothing. One question though, after i root the phone and if i ever do a factory reset on it does it stay rooted or do I have to do the process over, likewise with busy box.
I did copy down what version my phone is running if something goes wrong...
I'll post back soon with either success or failure.
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You won't lose root if you factory reset. Only way to unroot is to flash stock firmware again.
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Thanks Spiralzz
So right now i followed the instructions, i have odin running. I have the phone itself in usb debugging... but it looks like odin froze up..its at SetupConnection and hasnt continued. Could i be wrong and it takes time? Its been in this state for about 5 minutes now.
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Ok well, i wasnt successful. Odin came back with a fail. It came back 3 times failing.
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Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
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http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
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k9time said:
This is where you need to start. Read all you can.. Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
☆ ★☆ ★Galaxy Note Super Everything Thread (I717) 13 Apr☆ ★☆ ★
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
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This is the best thread to learn about what's what and how to's!
Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
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This has got to be the easiest method of rooting. It's what I've used on a few different phones and has never failed me!
Custom roms vary in stability. If they are based on source code they are going to be more stable than others. They will say "built from official source". Other roms can be just as stable depending on the developer and how much effort was put into the rom. You have to read the threads on the roms to compare issues if any, then pick the one you want to try.
The best advice I can give you is before you install or flash anything you verify it's for your device, and read the instructions at LEAST twice!
Welcome to xda ... I suggest you first read the xda rules. This is the general forum. Not for questions. There is a Q &A forum to ask questions in ... After searching.
That said ... Super everything thread is for you.
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Theoriginalgiga said:
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
Sorry for the long link, but that's the link I've used both times rooting my phone. It works on both gb and ics. Hope this helps
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
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That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
Agoattamer said:
That link works basically for all i717's but the OP has a Canadian Note and it requires another step.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1775263
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Whoa, that's freakin bizarre that it does an auto reinstall of the stock recovery. very creative.
Wow, Thanks to everybody who got involved. I didn't know that I had this many replies, I just got a notification for the first reply. Thanks a lot.
sumchans said:
Hi all,
I am very fresh to this forum. Even though I got my account created in 2006 on this website I never used it.
All over the internet and the forums people mention about rooting the phones. I never really cared about rooting my phone out of the fear of bricking it. So I always put that option away. Now its serious time to learn it, as I am understanding the real benefits of it.
I own a Samsung Galaxy Note LTE SGH -i717D which is from the carrier Telus in Canada. How do I start of with rooting on this device? What is the latest version of Android available for this device for rooting? Are the custom ROMS really flawless?
Somebody please kindly help me get rid of the starting trouble I have.
Thanks all.
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Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread since I having the same concern, and before I get flamed. Please let me know which approach would be suitable to ask more questions while staying on topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
lousk said:
Admin, my intention isn't to hijack this thread. But I thought I'd ask prior to starting a new thread, having the same concern, and before I get flamed at, I just want to be certain I'm not hijacking this thread. Before starting a new thread having the same concern, please let me know which way would be suitable to ask more questions on the same topic.
I've been researching and reading tons of information everywhere. However I reached the conclusion that the more I read the more confusing it became. Whenever I thought I was ready to take the plunge, It's so overwhelming even figuring out what's current or what's outdated methods and files needed - I simply can't catch up without direct assistance.
OP: Thanks so much for starting this thread. For me, being a long time Android OS lover, yet entirely newbie when it comes to rooting jargons - I couldn't have said it any better - you took the words right out of my mouth!!!... The only tiny difference is that I have the SGH -i717R (Rogers).
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Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
sumchans said:
Hi Lousk,
I know its really hard for a newbie to even think of where to start when it comes to rooting, because there are tons of information on rooting all over the internet and moreover confusion too. I learned it the hard way and I am glad to say now that I came out with flying colors. As with each official update, my device was getting totally sluggish, non responsive and out of all very little battery life. I couldn't stand this at all, one evening I sat on the internet, took the whole night before starting to do on anything with my device.
I didn't install any custom roms, but I rooted it which in turn helped me turn off a lot of services running in the background and also uninstall all the Samsung bloats, mainly the touchwiz. That thing is really resource hungry. Now my device is working at lightning speed and I have a feeling that it wont be obsolete in another 10 years.
I have all the files and also the instructions on rooting on my drive, unfortunately XDA is not allowing me to paste the link over here unless I have made 10 posts. They say it is just to prevent spams. If you are willing to give me your email id I can sent the link to you.
Go ahead and root your device to get the full potential of your unit.
Good luck,
Sumesh
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You can always copy/paste the link and remove the www. and .com then someone with more posts can repost it for ya.
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
sumchans said:
Thanks 440bro,
drive.google/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
Add "https://" before drive & ".com" after google for this link to work.
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No problem
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7ZJDVyHHL5bbjZMcHdwQmZRalE&usp=sharing
440bro said:
No problem
Thanks again 440bro.
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Thank you so much for your replies and links.
I'll follow up and let you know of the outcome or if I have additional question(s).
You guys are great!
Let me start off by saying I come from the world of iPhone. Connect phone to computer, click "Jailbreak" button, wait, phone jailbroken. Number of different "types" of jailbreaks, 1.
I have been looking around, and reading quite a bit. I entered the world of Android with a G4, and eventually learned there are many different version of the G4, and I had one that apparently didn't support rooting. So eventually I just gave up on it. I have recently acquired a Nexus 6P, upgraded it to Oreo, and think i am ready to take the root plunge.
So I read a bit. Got very lost. Read a bit more, and got lost again. From my take there are different "kinds" of roots to achieve different goals? Or am I misunderstanding?
So lets start with what I want to do. I want to run some of the more "advanced" apps that require root privileges to do things. I don't know if that is enough information or not, and if its not, just tell me what you need to know, and I will explain it more if I can. Ideally I want a "one click" option. I have tried Kingroot to no avail, and don't even know if a one click option is available for this device on this OS version, but thought I would ask. And the most important think I need to know, is rooting going to delete everything? I spent a lot of time setting up my phone, and don't really (at this point) want to do it again if I can avoid it.
Please again note, I have done a lot of reading, and research before coming here to ask for help. I am just totally lost. I have come from a totally different (iPhone) world where things are obviously quite a bit different, and just want to be sure I have all the information I need before starting this process so I don't brick the phone.
What do you mean with "more advanced apps"? Did you visit the nexus 6p device forum here on xda developers? Did you ask there for specific help to root?
strongst said:
What do you mean with "more advanced apps"? Did you visit the nexus 6p device forum here on xda developers? Did you ask there for specific help to root?
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I didn't know there was a specific forum for the Nexus 6P, I have found it now, and will go and ask my question there.
And by more advanced apps, I am talking about apps that require root.
Scratch that, apparently I can't ask for help where I am suppose to ask for help because I require a higher post count. And because honestly I have nothing meaningful to contribute, as I am not familiar enough with android, I can't get my post count up. So I am kinda stuck.
Shadow Wizard said:
I didn't know there was a specific forum for the Nexus 6P, I have found it now, and will go and ask my question there.
And by more advanced apps, I am talking about apps that require root.
Scratch that, apparently I can't ask for help where I am suppose to ask for help because I require a higher post count. And because honestly I have nothing meaningful to contribute, as I am not familiar enough with android, I can't get my post count up. So I am kinda stuck.
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Read the new user guide in my signature.