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Hey pals im thinking to get a new android phone & im thinking to buy Lg optimus 1 . So howz this phone n i see only 2-3 custom roms available for it . BTW howz its speed of handling games n apps on it thnks
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
The P500 was my first Android phone. Before I had the Samsung SGH-D500 so a HUGE jump of ages xD Of course I'm not old school I heavily used a iPodTouch 2G before. (Same prices more or less) For ME its enough and I can't wait for a good 2.3 ROM on that device. But if I NOW would have the choice I maybe would wait. Since LG is releasing the first DualCore Smartphone soon. But I took the Optimus One. And I think I bought the right device from the right company at the right time.
It looks good is not to big it can receive calls, SMS and E-Mails and stuff. Playing isnt really possible yet because of a touchscreen bug. Which hopefully get fixed with Android 2.3. And if I take a look on the hardware you get more then you pay. So its really a good choice if you dont want to spend that much money on a mobile phone. Also a good choice would be the Samsung wave which costs around 100€ more but does have extremly good hardware. (Like a Galaxy S i9000) However that one uses Bada NOT Android which was the reason why I didnt took it. But there are only a few good arguments why you should take a Android phone over Bada. So its up to you.
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morx said:
Best value for money at the 220euros price range, for sure!
So how much you wanna spend?
What are your needs?
Internet surfing, gaming, music, battery life demands?, movie watching, gps ?
For my needs is more than ok so far, it has everything i need... so..
1) what's your budget
2) your needs
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well wat i need is internet surfing ,gaming , gps ,n does it lag or this phone is smooth n hows the movie n gaming experience on it
+1 added bro thnx fir reply
n my budget is upto 15K indian rupees
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bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
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sometimes the mobile takes a bit of time to register your touch. say, typing a msg. sometimes you type 2-3 letters & than only the letters will appear. but this is random & its not that it becomes totally unusable. just a bit annoying at times as it limits your typing speed & so will affect games that needs you to make a lot of touch control (no D-pad or scroll here).
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ok bro so how much battery back up do u get on this phone
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@N3mesis
bro what toch screen bug r u talking about ??
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It laggs when touching the touchscreen in-game i also notice it while typing fast on the keyboard. Since I use amberhome i dont had the problem while typing (especially with using multitouch)
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It was my first android, and i think it is awesome. Some of my friends are using X8, Wildfire, X10. This phone's hardware worths more than its price, and believe me, it is an awesome choice to step into the world of android!
The only time I've ever noticed any significant lag was during the beginning of each level of Angry Birds. Other than that it has been great.
The phone is nice but check this thread for a common problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894210
nice work
nice work man...Custom ROMS to meet every person's taste.. GOOD WORK !!
This phone is the ideal way to get to know Android, imho.
It has decent performance (mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind), it comes with Froyo and LG has already promised a Gingerbread upgrade (though that will probably take a while to arrive), and it has no annoying quirks with regards to ordinary phone functions.
I come from the original Samsung Galaxy, which cost twice the amount and is still stuck with android 1.6 and incredibly low RAM memory (okay so the screen was awesome and it had 8GB internal storage). There was also a problem with the proximity detector which meant that I often accidentally hung up on people while talking on the phone.
None of that bull**** on this one, it works really well. I suggest you pair it with noejn's excellent Void. rom (beautiful black theme and very configurable!)
The only other budget android phone which might even be better is the ZTE Blade (aka San Francisco) because it's cheaper and because more ROMs are available.
Other decent budget androids:
- x8: stuck on 2.1, low RAM and no roms available afaik
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
- HTC Wildfire: nice phone, but low resolution and slower processor
- that's about it, at least what's available around here...
- samsung apollo/europa: low resolution, stuck on 2.1 afaik
It already has Froyo.
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mainly because it is not memory restricted as many other phones are, X8 and original Samsung Galaxy come to mind
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Certain versions have about 150 MB of free memory available. IMHO that's "memory restricted" for a phone sold today.
Depends on whether we're talking about ram or flash memory I'm talking about ram and no, a phone with 512MB still qualifies as well-endowed!
Sent from my LG-P500 on Void.
would you still recommend void over one of the two gingerbread ports; either cm7 or the other? thanks!
I'd still recommend void over the Gingerbread ROMs at this point. It may not be the latest and greatest, but everything works.
GB roms are in alpha phase, one big benefit with VIOD is that the google Ads are blocked, if google ads are blocked in GB roms, then i am happy to use it...
I believe you can't get Adobe Flash on the phone because of the mediocre CPU used.
Hey guys,
while we wait for Oleg I was wondering how many people actually would switch to Android for good, if everything will be working? So if modem, sensors etc. will work, will you leave Bada behind and only use Android?
Well I have to say that once everything will work I think that I won`t use Bada anymore, simply because there aren`t a lot of useful apps for it. Bada is really good but that`s it, Android, on the other hand is superb because it has a lot of useful apps and that`s what makes it so special.
So tell me what you think...
to answer ur qs first we should wiat for full bada 2.0 and second to see if android gonna work 100% on wave..
if everything is working and its stable and fast of course i would choose android.
I dont want change to android cause i want give a chance to bada remember Android begin like Bada.
But i have big deception with Bada2 i preferred they add new technology on Bada 1.2 and some trick too from BADA 2 !!!
When i look Bada 2 i see just new interface with great animation and sound !!!
Why they dont do improvement like Dolphin and ActionScript3 from Bada 2 on Bada 1.2 there's way make me happy and opensource interface to make new design GUI !!!!
Tigrouzen said:
I dont want change to android cause i want give a chance to bada remember Android begin like Bada.
But i have big deception with Bada2 i preferred they add new technology on Bada 1.2 and some trick too from BADA 2 !!!
When i look Bada 2 i see just new interface with great animation and sound !!!
Why they dont do improvement like Dolphin and ActionScript3 from Bada 2 on Bada 1.2 there's way make me happy and opensource interface to make new design GUI !!!!
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Yeah Open Source would be great and I would stay on Bada, too, if there would be more apps. When I bought the phone I thought that in a year or so there will be a lot of useful apps for the Wave but almost all devs just develop stuff for IOS or Android which is a big disadvantage for Bada.
I am quite satisfied with Bada, but after using Android for almost a month, I think it is better than samsung OS.
So yes, I would probably switch definitively to Android.
This said, I want to wait for bada 2.0 before doing anything!
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if that happens (everything works think) My choise is absolutely Android. I'm really enjoying using android on my wave even that useless version(no fence). I said that useless bcause modem and battery charge don't work. But even if that happens (just modem and battery charge) I will switch to android immediately!
If bada 2.0 will satiusfied me like jid..... i will not leaving it.
However, if this does not improve I will be happy to switch to Android
I would definitely leave Bada, for me it's crap.
your guys are funny, arent you but anyway, never would change to an os cause of apps, sometimes i think about it, but than i remember the other bad things about android and so the decision is easy, never ever android.
its my thinking dont critizize it.
as soon as i can, i will buy an android (probably few months later, waiting for nexus prime) but i will not sell my wave. i will keep both of them. I will use wave as my secondary phone.
IMHO any proprietory OS that doesn't have the focus of the parent company is doomed.
Look at Symbian probably the most dominant OS in smartphones for years, once the consortium collapsed the OS is all but dead.
Android provides a much better development path.
Having said that unless there is a greater following then the android developers here may become frustrated and decide to stop with a nearly 100% offering.
The wave for my mind was a very good peice of hardware, reasonably priced just let down by the OS. I'd switch from my x10 tomorrow if the wave had a fully functional 2.3 on it.
I will never leave BADA.
Waiting for Bada 2.....
yes i will
yes,for sure
HELL YES. Admittedly I would be happier if it was 2.3.* but considering the fact that due to the 850mhz (Australian Telstra and a few other telcos around the world) I'm limited to Bada 1.0.2. I would leave it's sorry ass faster than my ex-wife. Hell when it works I'll start making plans to personally catch up with Oleg and everyone responsible for all their time and effort and personally shout drinks.
Jingles.
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HELL YES. Admittedly I would be happier if it was 2.3.* but considering the fact that due to the 850mhz (Australian Telstra and a few other telcos around the world) I'm limited to Bada 1.0.2. I would leave it's sorry ass faster than my ex-wife. Hell when it works I'll start making plans to personally catch up with Oleg and everyone responsible for all their time and effort and personally shout drinks.
Jingles.
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Nicely said
but I think that this project kind of came to an end because of the modem driver, of course Oleg didn`t say anything of quitting this project but there were no news since over 40 days or so....
I hate bada, and waiting for android.
B]Default Will you leave Bada once Android is done? [/B]
OF COURSE, I have s8530.
i love Android, i love Linux.... Bada is wrong, there aren't: flash, overclocking, Jailbreaks, hacks app, mozilla, live wallpaper, emulators. In other words, there aren't color.
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B]Default Will you leave Bada once Android is done? [/B]
OF COURSE, I have s8530.
i love Android, i love Linux.... Bada is wrong, there aren't: flash, overclocking, Jailbreaks, hacks app, mozilla, live wallpaper, emulators. In other words, there aren't color.
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For me, the main reason for getting an android is unavailability of VOIP. I need it a lot and i don't want to open my laptop all the time i want to make a call over Gtalk or Skype. Otherwise i would have stick with bada for a while.
Edit :
One more thing i forgot to mention : The very poor web browsing experience. On the same network my friend opens a web page in few seconds on his SGS while i am stuck with loading -- loading.
But i am not leaving BADA. i am keeping my wave for sure.
Hi to all.
Has anyone tried it or is aware of any review on Easypix Easypad EP970? I am thinking on buying one, since specs look very good without me being an expert on CPU performance data (9.7 capacitive, Rockchip R2918 1.2Ghz, 1Gb, 8Gb, 8000mAh, Gingerbread) and price is rather low for these specs.
Also, does anyone know of any custom ROM for it? The source code is readiy available from their site so I guess someone with knowledge can do it easily.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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unfortunately this tablet is not focused from many people - the price and specs are fine - i would say the closest competitor is the Archos Arnova 9 G2
better specs vs better screen for 240€ - i would like to see a video about the quality of the easypad 970 screen
Android 4.0 for Rockchip 2918: Link
Thanks. So, am I right to assume that any Rockchip 2918 9.7" based ICS or Honeycomb ROM would do for the Easypad as well?
Talking about the Arnova 9 G2, it looks interesting indeed. Slightly slower CPU, one camera less, slightly thicker, but 50 Euro less!!
On the Arnova's downside, no mention on the battery capacity though (will be hard to beat Easypad's 8000mAh), and worse of all not avaiable for sale as yet.
I guess Prestigio will be coming soon with a similar model as well.
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Thanks. So, am I right to assume that any Rockchip 2918 9.7" based ICS or Honeycomb ROM would do for the Easypad as well?
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There would be still a ROM portation nessecary to adjust certain aspects and implement certain driver. But at least it should be simple for experienced Modder.
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Talking about the Arnova 9 G2, it looks interesting indeed. Slightly slower CPU, one camera less, slightly thicker, but 50 Euro less!! On the Arnova's downside, no mention on the battery capacity though (will be hard to beat Easypad's 8000mAh), and worse of all not avaiable for sale as yet. I guess Prestigio will be coming soon with a similar model as well.
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Yeah at beginning next year there will be some very similar and interesting devices in the low budget area.
Archos Arnova 9 G2; 10 G2
Easypad 970,
Prestigio
and also Coby Link
For now the Archos has the biggest community, i think root is already possible for Arnova 9 G2, because of the similarity to the Arnova 10 G2. Maybe next year other devices will be community or company supportet as well - unfortunately no one can really say.
Interestingtimes ahead then.
I think it is wiser not to rush now and wait for next year. Let's see.
Thanks
the easypad970 seems to be a good purchase now
Link
its identical to cube U9GT2
therefore easy to root and Android 4.0 final release is coming soon
Happy new year.
I got the 970 a couple of days before the new year. I couldn't resist the temptation when I had it in front of me. I also bought one for my bro as well.
Already I rooted it with Gingerbreak (minor snag after that, during shutdown, but workaround by another app), loaded with apps, and tested on dlna multimedia servers, etc etc.
Generally happy with it. Now is about time to experiment with ICS. Just to confirm that I can use a U9GT2 ROM without a problem, even though this one has 8Gb NAND instead of 16Gb of U9GT2?
Sorry for the noob question
BTW thanks for the links. Great help!!
grz - i got one too its cheap, good performance, good quality, and has a excellent display
i would recommend to change the Launcher and the Keyboard, to e.g.:
Go Launcher Ex and Hacker´s Keyboard
for Gaming install Chainfire3DPro and within Chainfire install OpenGL Driver
for Gameloft Games, like Order & Chaos you need to change the build.prop (\System): Link (Thread #8)
HardKeyboard + Mouse + USBStick work also fine
and yes - you can use the Cube u9gt2 ROMs - the USB Driver doesnt work as fine as the
970 but it works - with a installed cube ROM u need to use a RKManager to switch off the Tablet,
then press Volume (-) + Power keep pressing and put the USB cable in the computer, then
the Device will be recognized from the RKManager und you can take away the Fingers
Thanks for the good info. Congrats on your new gadget!
Will try games etc, but at the moment I am trying to find the best calendar and contacts apps in order to sync with Outlook and keep the categories, and some networking functions.
There is something in the German forum that you kindly provided the link, that I need to clear up: "richtet 1GB anstatt 500MB für Apps ein". Google translation implies not clearly that if I use the Cube ROM, it gives me 1Gb for installing apps instead of 500Mb as in Easypad. Is that correct?
If so, out of curiosity then, any ideas why Easypix gave us only 500Mb (which have almost run out on mine and I am also using Apps2SD)? And where does Cube take that extra space from? Is it from the NAND Flash memory which it has double than ours? If so, then we Easypad owners wouldn't have any problem with half the NAND and even then reduced by another 500Mb? Or is it just too trivial and I shouldn't bother about it? Because I need that 1Gb badly
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Thanks for the good info. Congrats on your new gadget!
Will try games etc, but at the moment I am trying to find the best calendar and contacts apps in order to sync with Outlook and keep the categories, and some networking functions.
There is something in the German forum that you kindly provided the link, that I need to clear up: "richtet 1GB anstatt 500MB für Apps ein". Google translation implies not clearly that if I use the Cube ROM, it gives me 1Gb for installing apps instead of 500Mb as in Easypad. Is that correct?
If so, out of curiosity then, any ideas why Easypix gave us only 500Mb (which have almost run out on mine and I am also using Apps2SD)? And where does Cube take that extra space from? Is it from the NAND Flash memory which it has double than ours? If so, then we Easypad owners wouldn't have any problem with half the NAND and even then reduced by another 500Mb? Or is it just too trivial and I shouldn't bother about it? Because I need that 1Gb badly
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Hey,
I'm one of those germans with an Easypad 970
Well I upgraded my stroage for Apps from 500mb to 1gb without any problems. I think the Cube U9GT2 Rom upgrade changed the partition sizes too. So we will lose 500mb from the normal NAND flash an can use it for apps.
greetings
yes its a decision for the ROM maker between more storage for the system or for the user - i really prefer 1GB for Apps
I would recommend the new Cube Firmware 1.05 = Android 4.0.3 (Source), i tried this one out the whole day and im very pleased. It runs very stable, has 1GB for Apps, flash works and some Apps look really good with ICS.
for Calendar - i use "Jorte" and youtube is here
Good.
I am also thinking of installing this specific firmware (or any update) by next week and hope by that time someone will fix the adb issue.
Did you notice any improvement on battery life?
no unfortunately i didnt notice any improvement in battery life, and in the next days we will see probably some more ROMs so there is no need to hurry
Hi, I also have the Easypad 970 and very pleased with the quality of the screen and overall speed of the tablet. Unfortunately, it seems there are some devices (like mine) with faulty/bad WiFi chips and this is a real problem. Currently, trying to get it fixed with easypix support and respons is OK so far. Tomorrow I will try to get an RMA for it.
Wow, now I remember why I dont buy sony products. Whoever decided to make the sd card slot usless should get a tab up side the head.
Sd card: useless compared to non crippled slots
Micro usb? really? thats the best you could cram into a tablet this size... fail
No hdmi? major fail
The charger is the worst piece of crap I have ever seen
Bravo sony, you wanted to create a tablet that you had to cut by 100$ and a tablet that is crippled and missing its leggs.
Even some 7inch tabs have hdmi, full size usb and a charger that doesnt sound like metal teeth being snapped.
As for power and gpu, my samsung galaxy NOTE gt-N7000 runs circles around this failure.
If you love it, good for you, I require more.
Rant over
First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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First of all, of course you galaxy note runs circles around it. It's clocked at 1.4ghz vs the sony s's 1ghz. Not really sure what your basis for the claims of the GPU performance are.. they should be fairly similar though, so if the Galaxy Note does indeed outperform it then your right that it's pretty crappy of Sony.
I agree with you for most of the other parts though. Can't really justify the need for downsizing the USB port when it's such a large case up there. Hell they could have fit two there! HDMI would have been great, but there are plenty that don't have it on the market, at least this one offers DLNA. I don't have a problem with the charger.. seems to me that it would be much, much more durable than the micro USB's android phones ahve been strapping.
Plus some people pay hundreds for a universal remote, and this has one with great form and function. Like anything it has it's pro's and cons.
The two things that stung me about it that got me after purchase is the SDcard storage thingo, and lack of support from gameloft :\.
But hey, could be worse and just not have an SD card slot like some do. Now that is a fail.
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The gpu plays as big a roll as the cpu in terms of render. I had a 154$ tablet that used an all winner cortex9 with a mali-400 gpu and it destroys the sony tablet. Of course at 154$ it had a ****ty 7inch screen. After my iphone 4 and 4s, i cant go back to hiddeous pixel screens. I found the perfect middle ground in my Samsung Note. It has the muscle to back up its amazing screen.
BTW, that cheap tablet with the amazing cpu/gpu had hdmi, usb and a micro sdhc slot. Its the now gone Ainol Novo 7 Advanced (not the the basic model).
I must say, the sony tablet screen look terrible compared to my Note but if i hold it far enough away, the pixels dont jump out at me as much.
Mind you its apples to oranges because the Note's display is an ips super amoled with an almost retina ppi.
I called sony today to pass on my thoughts. They sound ignorant. Their sales reflect that. Maybe if they drop it another 100$ people will stop returning it when the insert their sd card and haul the charger out of the box with a tractor.
The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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The card works fine with any 3rd party app quickpic mx player etc thanks for playing technical genius
Who uses stock apps anyway
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Bitterness ages a face ;-)
Oh, and try to download a movie on your sony tablet directly to you sd card.... oh right, crippled
Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Regarding the "crippled" SD Card slot, as far as I can tell its only crippled with Sony apps. If you use any standard Android app the SD card slot is fully usable and accessible. I've got a 32 gig sd card in there and have no problem playing videos/music/open files directly off it. No speed issues or anything. I never transfer anything...
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Nowhere did I refer to playback. Try to download natively to your sd card with your tablet. Crippled. Playback is useless if you cant get the media on the card in the first place. Maybe run out and buy a real tablet to do the muscle work and use the sony for the pansy playback?
Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Did Sony kill your parents? Good Lord, let it go. You don't like the Tablet S, but a lot of us do. Who cares? Don't buy it! I like PS3 controller compatibility and universal remote features. They build different tablets for a reason, just like how they make different phones, different TVs, furniture, cars, ice cream flavors, etc...
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Yeah, because you've never bought something ad ranted. I always love the holier than thou type.
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You can use dolphin browser ( and many other browser ) to download file into sd card directly.
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Yes thank you. Too bad dolphin crashes on my sony tab and it only downloads certain things. I download movies and stuff on my samsung note with torrent apps. Sony s will only download to its own memory. But thanks
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Sell your sony and use your samsung if is better than a workstation.
Sony s runs android, so " Sony s will only download to its own memory " is a meaningless phrase.
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
lifes too short to go moaning on a forum about a problem thats arguable negligible to most usage scenarios, then writing snarky 'witticisms'.
your really need more hobbies if you're resorting to torrenting on tablets and complaining about not being able to do so on one model.... (who the heck does that?!!).
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Anything I say will be meaningless to you for the simple fact that you are limited to your own opinion. I however dont get frustrated when other people are not acting as my clone.
"Sony s runs android"?? do you think my more capable Note runs windows 7??Obviously they both use android.
On most tablets and my Note, "I" decide where my downloads go ie to the units memory or to the memory card I have installed. Sony s makes that choice for you. Its not my opinion, its a fact. Kinda runs in the face of what android lovers seem to hold so dear... "freedom".
I may sell my crippled tablet for a capable one, or just give it to my 5 year old nephew to play with.
I will pick up a galaxy tab, as far as I can see, looks better.
Dont hate on people, life is too short ;-)
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you are crazy boy.
He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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He's only making points that have been made time and time again by most of you, just he's not willing to just accept it and be happy with the tab. No real reason for everyone to start flaming
It's very true that sony has imposed too much of there own influence. Not only that, but made it so there is currently no possible way to root it and make the changes we want done.
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Thanks for being helpful. I knew i wasnt the only person to ever complain here about the sd problem. I wasnt harping on it, simply replying to people who took the time to talk with me about it.
I too look forward to a root and i hope that the sd problem is software not hardeware and that sony might wake up to at least match 150$ tablets in that regard.
Im not a fan of honeycomb so ics would be nice. Cheers
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Exactly, I would write the same.
I Don't understand this kind of posts, what helps? We need to improve the usability of this tablet until the root is not available...
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My 3rd party apps that download video or music content are restricted to the 16GB internal. There is zero way to make anything go to the sd card because the tablet treats the sd card as if it wasnt even there. The only thing the tablet can do is transfer files to and from the sd card.. Period.
As for dolphin, what would you download with that?
On a side note.. you can download with atorrent and specify the the destination can't you? The only problem I had with it was wifi going into sleep mode.. so I was pretty dissapoinnted to wake up and find it only downloaded 1.2%. lol.
Basically I knew what I was buying hardware wise when I bought it - aside from the creaks I discovered later. Then was massively let down software wise due to the restrictions.
I feel asthough if we got it rooted, we could just rename sdcard1 to sdcar2, and vice versa. Hopefully such a switcharoo would work and then it would continue on as it has, but with much more memory there .
It's going to be a real shame if Sony's take on ICS leaves us in the same boat, can't be rooted, can't be downgraded, and then someone discovers a root for HC
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
fpjones3 said:
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
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Considering your device runs gingerbread, it is not possible to run ICS unless a developer has developed a custom ROM for your device. ROM pertains strictly to the OS itself as a whole, RAM is the devices total memory, as in what's available for the ROM to be stored and any non SD apps to be installed. Hopefully this helps you.
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RE: spec
ROM is not only for OS storage it is also for apps, music, other files etc., but your phone should probably have a mini SD card slot where you can expand this. This is analogous to a hard drive on your computer
Yes, RAM determines how much you can run at once, the Android OS uses up a portion of this. You are also correct about the CPU controls the processing of information so therefore controls 'speed'.
No you will not be able to upgrde to ICS (which isn't even the newest version of Android) because your phone is a dinosaur LOL as your manufacturer probably realises they wouldn't be able to. Also, I've never heard of your phone so it must be really a fly by night company (exaggeration) so there would probably not be a ROM (custom update built by people on this forum) for this device and I don;'t suggest that do so anywys are you are not a technical person and would probably mess it up (I know I did when I started 4 years ago). I would suggest that you buy the Nexus 5 when it comes out in October... I know I will.
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fpjones3 said:
I am not a developer but I am not exactly unfamiliar with tech. I am trying to understand how different Android phones work with respect to their specs.
For example, I was looking at one with these specs:
OS Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
CPU 1.0GHz Dual Core
512 MB ROM
512 MB RAM
From what I've read, I understand ROM is more on the OS side and RAM is for multitasking. CPU speed is more on how smooth apps are launched or how the phones responds to commands. Did I understand these correctly?
I compared those above against what I have. (I've attached a screenshot of my phone's specs.) I do not understand the entry on the second screeshot re: memory. Is that RAM or ROM? Also with these specs, can I (if at all possible) install or upgrade to ICS?
Thanks in advance!
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Thank you for the replies! Yeah I purchased a cheap-o phone, hence the brand, mainly because I want to play around with the OS.
Well now that I know I cannot upgrade the phone, a couple of follow-up questions:
I know you can only save apps on the SD if rooted. How will I know if it's rooted?
What benefits does rooting give to a living fossil such as my phone?
How does the specs I quoted on the first post sound? Is 512 ROM and 512 RAM good enough?
Is RAM upgradeable? (I doubt the answer is yes though. lol)
Lastly, are all android versions not upgradeable? (Sounds like a waste of hardware especially when 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3 were released shortly after the other. 4.4 is almost out even.)
Cheers!
A phone will not come rooted as standard you must do it yourself using a simple one click solution such as gingerbreak and others (make sure to find them on XDA only or you will get malware, just download it and install the APK by tapping on it in a file explorer). If you can return it you should do so, gingerbread is really easy to exploit, the Nexus 4 phone is only about $200 if you can find a used one and it has the latest android which is very good looking. Rooting does not require any extra hardware as it is like getting admin privileges on Windows or root perms on Ubuntu and other Linux. A good app is SD maid, it does A LOT. Yeah you guesses it RAM is not upgradeable on phones as everything is soldered and highly compact. Yes, Android is upgradeable (unlike certain other OSes cough cough Windows) but manufacturers seem to not follow that as they pull the plugs on such things, however with Nexus phones google provides the updates and they do it fast and for a long time which is why I suggest you cut your losses with this phone (return if possible) and get a nexus 4/5.
BTW, for next time when responding, you should respond to us by quoting what we say or we won't be able to read what you say.
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A phone will not come rooted as standard you must do it yourself using a simple one click solution such as gingerbreak and others (make sure to find them on XDA only or you will get malware, just download it and install the APK by tapping on it in a file explorer). If you can return it you should do so, gingerbread is really easy to exploit, the Nexus 4 phone is only about $200 if you can find a used one and it has the latest android which is very good looking. Rooting does not require any extra hardware as it is like getting admin privileges on Windows or root perms on Ubuntu and other Linux. A good app is SD maid, it does A LOT. Yeah you guesses it RAM is not upgradeable on phones as everything is soldered and highly compact.
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Hello there again! I can't return this anymore as I've had this for a good month or two now, but thanks for the tip.
I'll install the apk as soon as I get home but I recently replaced Avast with AVG and it says I'm running on high-privilege mode, I guess that's it right?
Yes, Android is upgradeable (unlike certain other OSes cough cough Windows) but manufacturers seem to not follow that as they pull the plugs on such things, however with Nexus phones google provides the updates and they do it fast and for a long time which is why I suggest you cut your losses with this phone (return if possible) and get a nexus 4/5.
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How did the manufacturers pull the plug? I understand Android is open-source. So why can't I just get an installer for ICS or Jellybean and slap it over Gingerbread like I would upgrade a desktop from XP to Win8?
Thanks again!
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Hello there again! I can't return this anymore as I've had this for a good month or two now, but thanks for the tip.
I'll install the apk as soon as I get home but I recently replaced Avast with AVG and it says I'm running on high-privilege mode, I guess that's it right?
How did the manufacturers pull the plug? I understand Android is open-source. So why can't I just get an installer for ICS or Jellybean and slap it over Gingerbread like I would upgrade a desktop from XP to Win8?
Thanks again!
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It's not as simple as pushing Google's version of the OS to your device, they need to modify it and create their own pseudo operating system tailored to the hardware of your device. DO NOT INSTALL A ROM FROM ANOTHER DEVICE OR TRY TO INSTALL AN INSTALLER, they are most likely fake and are out to get you. Send me a link of where you got the apk so I can see if it's okay
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DO NOT INSTALL A ROM FROM ANOTHER DEVICE OR TRY TO INSTALL AN INSTALLER, they are most likely fake and are out to get you. Send me a link of where you got the apk so I can see if it's okay
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I have yet to search for an alternate ROM. That is what you are asking for right?
Is there a basis for determining compatible ROMs, if any at all?
fpjones3 said:
I have yet to search for an alternate ROM. That is what you are asking for right?
Is there a basis for determining compatible ROMs, if any at all?
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No your root apk but you already did it so its fine. And there probably wont be any Roms compatible for your device
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No your root apk but you already did it so its fine. And there probably wont be any Roms compatible for your device
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Thanks for all the replies AJM! (Just so we're on the same page, I have not done anything, much less attempt to root the phone.) Looks like I have lots of room to experiment and explore.
One last question: I found this in the forum:
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
I'm totally fishing here so please excuse the probable misuse of terminologies or the nonsensical question(s):
1. Based on my initial post: is my device capable of running a higher version of Android? Preferably the latest of course.
2. Assuming #1 is a yes, is a custom ROM created around the android version (gingerbread, ICS, etc.) or, err, what? (Do I start with a blank slate or do I download something off the web?)
fpjones3 said:
Thanks for all the replies AJM! (Just so we're on the same page, I have not done anything, much less attempt to root the phone.) Looks like I have lots of room to experiment and explore.
One last question: I found this in the forum:
[GUIDE] [how to] CREATE OWN ROM [FOR ANY ANDROID DEVICE] [FOR N00B] [EASIEST METHODS]
I'm totally fishing here so please excuse the probable misuse of terminologies or the nonsensical question(s):
1. Based on my initial post: is my device capable of running a higher version of Android? Preferably the latest of course.
2. Assuming #1 is a yes, is a custom ROM created around the android version (gingerbread, ICS, etc.) or, err, what? (Do I start with a blank slate or do I download something off the web?)
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I would not advise you to try to build a rom when you are COMPLETLY new to android and probably don't know about linux I assume and no it wont be able to run any other version other than 2.3.7( you're device is reminiscent of my first android phone, the xperia x10 which could only run 2.3.7, although later on a very skillful develop managed to get 4.0 on it but it wasn't exactly ideal).
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I would not advise you to try to build a rom when you are COMPLETLY new to android and probably don't know about linux I assume and no it wont be able to run any other version other than 2.3.7( you're device is reminiscent of my first android phone, the xperia x10 which could only run 2.3.7, although later on a very skillful develop managed to get 4.0 on it but it wasn't exactly ideal).
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At least I now know it is sort of possible.
Why was it not ideal though (your upgraded phone)?
Battery life and unreal lag. On a side note you can think of gingerbread as the xp or vista for android 4.4 is coming out soon that means you're going to be 5 versions behind.
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Battery life and unreal lag. On a side note you can think of gingerbread as the xp or vista for android 4.4 is coming out soon that means you're going to be 5 versions behind.
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Excuse the necromancy but I sort of renewed my interest in the topic.
I am now using a newer phone running 5.1 for around a year now, with slightly better specs. Not yet rooted so I don't void the warranty. I was wondering, what can I do with the dinosaur of a phone?