Any word on improvements in S-Voice? - Samsung Gear S

For me, the only deal-killer for Tizen as compared to Android Wear is the speed of S Voice vs Google Now. In the past S Voice has lagged terribly while Google Now is almost instantaneous. Has anyone heard about S Voice improvements in the most recent Tizen?

I dont use S voice so i wont know, but would like to have S voice work just like Google Now works on the Android Wear Watches. like waking up the Gear and saying OK Gear or S voice for commands.

rmont23 said:
I would like to have S voice work just like Google Now works on the Android Wear Watches. like waking up the Gear and saying OK Gear or S voice for commands.
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No it is still extremely slow on the Gear S as compared to the Moto 360 (I own both)

It is faster for me. Android Wear's Google Now is faster, but I've noticed that S-Voice is faster than it was on the Tizen Gears.

sbrownla said:
It is faster for me. Android Wear's Google Now is faster, but I've noticed that S-Voice is faster than it was on the Tizen Gears.
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I received a GS update and it said one of the improvements is S-Voice

Seems to work very well with my Note 4. Seems about the same speed as Google Now to be honest and I think it has a bit more flexibility in how you phrase things.
You can set the Gear S to respond by voice whenever the screen is on (which you can by flicking your wist), and it responds by default to "Hi Gear"
You can then say something such as "Send a text to 1234567 Hello Jim, I will see you at 2pm". S Voice then displays the result on the screen (which you can choose to ignore) and asks you to say "Yes" if you want to send it.
Once a text comes in, you can flick your wrist, say "Hi Gear", and "Read messages" which will result in S Voice reading the message aloud. And then you can reply to the text immediately by voice if you want to.
Seems pretty slick and reliable to me.

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My experiences trying(and suceeding) to make my GP a primary phone

Over the last year or so I have been weening myself off of my Verizon feature phone. The journey didn't need to be anywhere near as arduous as I made it out to be, but for a time I had competing goals that sent me in different directions. Here's what I finally settled on. Before you read any further understand that, to my knowledge, this will only work in the US and it will cost you about $5.50 a month for unlimited calling.
Device: Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0(US)
Kernel: TerraSilent 1.3.5 courtesy of Dark_Balor
ROM: Icy Fusion release version 2.3 courtesy of Klin1344
CPU governor: SmartAssV2
Scheduler: deadline(no idea why but this scheduler works markedly better than others for this task)
Min CPU speed: 400MHz(Skype stutters if set lower)
Max CPU speed: 1200MHz
Wi-Fi Sleep Policy: Never
Apps needed for this: Skype, Google Voice, SetCPU(requires root)
Sign up for Google Voice. The settings are rather spartan, but the key issue that people encounter is that they need a phone number. Yes, Google Voice let's you choose a number but that is not tied to a device. What Google wants is for you to give out your Google Voice number and have that ring your cell phone, home phone, work phone, etc. but what if you have a Samsung Galaxy Player without a phone number? Skype, but more specifically we'll need pay features.
Sign up for Skype. We need two things for this to work and for it to be relatively cheap. First you'll need a calling plan from Skype(I chose unlimited US and Canada for $2.99 month to month). Once you have that you will see offers to purchase a Skype Number for 50% off($30 a year after discount). Once you have those items you can go back to Google Voice, click on Settings, under the "Phones" tab click "Add another phone" and then have Google Voice call you to verify that your Skype Number is yours.
The really cool part is that Skype let's you display your Google Voice number when you dial in Skype so the Skype Number essentially disappears. When someone dials your Google Voice number it will ring on your Galaxy Player, your PC(if you run the Skype client), or any other number you specify.
The downside
You're locked into Skype. No matter how you slice it it won't be free unless you forgo the Skype Number and calling plan which obliterates any hope of dialing to phones. If you opt for the calling plan then skip on the Skype Number you're forced to wait for someone to call, miss it, get the notification of a missed call, then dial them back. The Skype app itself has been buggy in the past. Running the Skype app 24/7 definitely cuts into the performance of our devices since they are at the far low end of the hardware spectrum. Can you multitask? Yes. Is it pretty? Not really. I can be assured of not missing a call and listen to music, but if the device syncs other application in the background then everything else beyond music and Skype grinds to a halt for a good 20-30 seconds.
You'll need to manually add your contacts to Skype.
It costs money. This point cannot be understated. It may be less than $6 a month but some people may not want to tack on the price of two trips to Starbucks for something they would rarely, if ever use. There are a lot of apps that will let you make calls for free and even if the quality or limitations blow free is still free.
Using a BT headset with the Skype app is hit or miss. The latency is noticeable.
But what about GrooveIP or Google Mail calling?
Amazing app in that it seamlessly works with Google Voice and Google Contacts, but I never got decent call quality. I could always hear everyone crystal clear(really, it was amazing quality), but no one could hear me all that well. I tried for months to make it work, but I could not replicate some success other Android users experienced even if I copied their settings. Skype worked almost immediately and people love the quality. Additionally I love taking calls on my PC with Skype. Yes, you can use Gmail(on a desktop) to make and receive calls but my experience was that that is more of an oddity than a solution. I can't get Gmail calls to be loud enough and I've had countless experiences where I close a tab(Gmail) thinking I was done with it only to miss a call. The stand alone Skype application for Windows combined with the Android Skype app is the best solution I have found.
"My device pissed all over itself. Skype sucks."
The Galaxy Player is ridiculously underpowered even compared to the Samsung Galaxy S. I have gotten Skype to work well by throwing almost everything else overboard. I was messing around with Winamp and for some reason Skype kept signing out and nothing I did short of a reboot would get it to sign back in. I uninstalled Winamp and all of the sudden I can Skype, play music, and use Firefox at the same time with no issues other than Firefox being noticeably slower than usual. Phones from 2010 sucked. The Galaxy Player is below the standards of a phone from 2010. You will need to treat Skype delicately to say the least.
I set up an ipbxes.org account and linked my SIP to google voice so I can just use the native dialer in android with internet calling. it's a lot less power-thirsty than skype and has a much better interface IMO. plus you don't need credits.
halomademeapc said:
I set up an ipbxes.org account and linked my SIP to google voice so I can just use the native dialer in android with internet calling. it's a lot less power-thirsty than skype and has a much better interface IMO. plus you don't need credits.
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Awesome solution. I settled on Skype because it was brainless and worked with software I already enjoyed(Skype for desktop Windows). I tried Ekiga(my only venture into VOIP outside Mumble/Teamspeak/Ventrilo) a few years back but I didn't like it for some reason. Anyway, if you have time I'd love to see a write up of what you did.
halomademeapc said:
I set up an ipbxes.org account and linked my SIP to google voice so I can just use the native dialer in android with internet calling. it's a lot less power-thirsty than skype and has a much better interface IMO. plus you don't need credits.
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Wait, can you tell me the process to making the native dialer work? And what is ipbxes.org? When I enter the url it says "Webpage not available."
the playa! said:
Wait, can you tell me the process to making the native dialer work? And what is ipbxes.org? When I enter the url it says "Webpage not available."
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I think the "i" was an accident. The correct website is "pbxes.org". You will have to be on a non-stock-based ROM ICS or JB to use the native dialer. Open the dialer, Menu -> Settings -> at the bottom, "Internet Calling" -> enter credentials for SIP account.
Mevordel said:
I think the "i" was an accident. The correct website is "pbxes.org". You will have to be on a non-stock-based ROM ICS or JB to use the native dialer. Open the dialer, Menu -> Settings -> at the bottom, "Internet Calling" -> enter credentials for SIP account.
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Aw man, I HAVE to have Nebula/LinICS?
I know of a better simple way of doing it (making the sgp into a phone). I
There is a device called gmate and basically what you do is you take sim card (tmobile or at&t are the only carriers that use a gsm signal) put ur sim into the gmate and it just bluetooths the signal to your device. There you have it now your sgp is a phone
Please read more into it their is a thread on here somewhere
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Here in the UK the carrier "3" and if I'm not wrong also GiffGaff sell a MI-FI to tether their 3G to any wi-fi capable device.

What are you using for voice dial?

Hello,
I'm curious what software/app you use for dialing with your S4.
Most of the time my phone sits in my pocket and I use BT for voice dial. I've found the current voice dial seems to be a lot more tedious than my S3. Confirming who I want to call and half the time on confirm - e.g. call Mary Smith at work - there are two numbers what number would you like to call - I press the work number and then it says do you want to call Mary Smith at work and I will say YES and then it goes I can't find yep in your phone book and I have to start all over.
Is there a way to switch off confirmations? Is there a way to switch which voice dialer (I tried VLINGO but it no longer supports BT dial).
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I use the headset that came with the S4. Long press on the bottom button and make my calls when driving. I haven't hooked up my S9 to it yet but then again that one is a stereo headphone headset so it goes in both ears.
DarkMenace said:
I use the headset that came with the S4. Long press on the bottom button and make my calls when driving. I haven't hooked up my S9 to it yet but then again that one is a stereo headphone headset so it goes in both ears.
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Thanks. I should have been more specific. I'm curious about the voice dial software people are using and if there are any options within the S4.
boe said:
Thanks. I should have been more specific. I'm curious about the voice dial software people are using and if there are any options within the S4.
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I was having a similar problem. Except I wanted to change the default application that was launched when I hit my bluetooth function button in my car. It was launching SVoice by default. SVoice really sucks on my phone when it is connected to my car's bluetooth. Not so with my wife's S4. Not sure why.
I wanted to use Google Search- works flawlessly for making calls, navigation and finding points of interest, weather... but cannot do as much as SVoice or a few of the other apps available. Anyway- a couple weeks I did a series of searches and found the solution on these forums but can't find the the thread anymore...
So in case you are wondering how to change what is launched: you have to go into application manager (under settings) and disable svoice. Now, when you launch one of these apps it will ask you to pick a new default. If you would like to launch Google Search you have to download the app Bluetooth Launch which lets you assign any app to launch when bluetooth function button is pushed. You choose com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSearchActivity in the bluetooth launch app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kin.bluetooth_launch&hl=en
I tried a lot of other apps in the app store like vlingo, assistant, skyvi, maluuba, dragon voice, etc... a lot of them had problems with voice recognition, but had a lot more functionality. Oh and vlingo still supports bluetooth... The one that seemed to have the best voice recognition was assistant.... which i may eventually switch to.
fun4stuff said:
I was having a similar problem. Except I wanted to change the default application that was launched when I hit my bluetooth function button in my car. It was launching SVoice by default. SVoice really sucks on my phone when it is connected to my car's bluetooth. Not so with my wife's S4. Not sure why.
I wanted to use Google Search- works flawlessly for making calls, navigation and finding points of interest, weather... but cannot do as much as SVoice or a few of the other apps available. Anyway- a couple weeks I did a series of searches and found the solution on these forums but can't find the the thread anymore...
So in case you are wondering how to change what is launched: you have to go into application manager (under settings) and disable svoice. Now, when you launch one of these apps it will ask you to pick a new default. If you would like to launch Google Search you have to download the app Bluetooth Launch which lets you assign any app to launch when bluetooth function button is pushed. You choose com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSearchActivity in the bluetooth launch app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kin.bluetooth_launch&hl=en
I tried a lot of other apps in the app store like vlingo, assistant, skyvi, maluuba, dragon voice, etc... a lot of them had problems with voice recognition, but had a lot more functionality. Oh and vlingo still supports bluetooth... The one that seemed to have the best voice recognition was assistant.... which i may eventually switch to.
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So I finally tried the latest dragon (I think they took over vlingo and their newer version supports BT). It BLOWS the doors off Svoice and google voice dial. I don't need to play music or anything else via BT command so I don't know if it is good or not for that sort of stuff but for calling my contacts from my exchange account, it is nearly flawless. I've only tested for a day but so far so good. If it ends up having issues, I'll be sure to post back.
fun4stuff said:
I wanted to change the default application that was launched when I hit my bluetooth function button in my car....you have to go into application manager (under settings) and disable svoice...If you would like to launch Google Search you have to download the app Bluetooth Launch ...choose com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox.VoiceSearchActivity
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Thanks fun4stuff!! That's exactly what I was looking for!

Remove Ok google(Not just the text)

I'm not a fan of google feeling the need to listen to everything I say. I did search for this, but all I'm coming up with is people wanting to disable the "Ok google" text on the screen. I'd like to disable to feature all together, but it doesn't seem there is an option anywhere. Am I missing something or do you need a custom rom to get rid of this crap? Thanks guys!
djscrew said:
I'm not a fan of google feeling the need to listen to everything I say. I did search for this, but all I'm coming up with is people wanting to disable the "Ok google" text on the screen. I'd like to disable to feature all together, but it doesn't seem there is an option anywhere. Am I missing something or do you need a custom rom to get rid of this crap? Thanks guys!
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I do not know if there is anyone who would have done this... the "OK Google" is the core part of android wear...... If you do not like that feature, you may be better off with a different wearable.
I am not trying to be rude, just can not understand why you need to remove almost all functionality of your watch.
Milimbar said:
I do not know if there is anyone who would have done this... the "OK Google" is the core part of android wear...... If you do not like that feature, you may be better off with a different wearable.
I am not trying to be rude, just can not understand why you need to remove almost all functionality of your watch.
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Actually he made an interesting question, indeed. The voice recognition of the "OK GOOGLE" hotword isn't fully used by everyone (as with on phone) so disabling that should spare some battery juice.
Milimbar said:
I do not know if there is anyone who would have done this... the "OK Google" is the core part of android wear...... If you do not like that feature, you may be better off with a different wearable.
I am not trying to be rude, just can not understand why you need to remove almost all functionality of your watch.
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I can understand where the feauture may be useful, but I myself don't feel it's necessary to have google listening to me at all times. I wouldn't quite say that is "almost all the functionality" of the watch. Why can't I activate the menu an then begin speaking rather than it just listening at all times?
lparcshinoda said:
Actually he made an interesting question, indeed. The voice recognition of the "OK GOOGLE" hotword isn't fully used by everyone (as with on phone) so disabling that should spare some battery juice.
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That's a good point too. I'm sure that "feature" is draining my battery.
I think the OP has a valid point. Personally I don't care if Google hears me. However, I would be okay if I could just tap the screen to give a voice command instead of saying okay Google. Everyone looks at me funny when I say that part. Probably save a little time too.
Also, I wish I could just tap on the watch to have it input voice to text on my phone when I'm in a text field. I like to use Swype, but hate there voice to text option when I want to use it.
I can see how having the option to turn off always listening would be good for some people, i thought he wanted to remove ALL of the google now functions.
Maybe someone will come up with a mod for it soon.
I'm fed up of this "OK GOOGLE" Logo everytime, Hope they will give us an option to remove the word in next update.!
riteshgpt60 said:
I'm fed up of this "OK GOOGLE" Logo everytime, Hope they will give us an option to remove the word in next update.!
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just use it a couple of times, then the text will no longer be shown...so, just say "ok google" to activate the search (i think about 5 times necessary, correct me, if i am wrong), then you will no longer see the text when waking up your watch...
I'm interested in partially deactivating the "ok google" feature too, as I my main language is french and ok google works only about 20% of the time for me
bagster said:
I'm interested in partially deactivating the "ok google" feature too, as I my main language is french and ok google works only about 20% of the time for me
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My main language is also French and the detection is working almost flawlessly
no solution yet?!
worst thing with the Hotword detection is, that it's too often wrong with the detection and starts recording .. it's like you have a bug on your wrist
for me, it records about 10 times a day without me saying "ok google"...
but check it yourself: history.google(.com)/history/audio (remove the () , i cant post links because of new member)
worst function ever. so anybody knows how to delete this ****ed up function?!
These devices were made with the hotword detection specifically in mind, I believe that the battery use should be negligible. I personally haven't noticed any battery problems coming from the Android Wear app or the Google app (on watch, through the battery statistics.) most of my battery problems were from watchfaces still using the 4.4w APIs and badly coded applications.
That said, because they were made specifically with hotword detection and Google Now in mind, it cannot be disabled without someone possibly making a custom ROM to turn it off, however no one has made a true custom ROM for wear yet (I'm not even sure they can honestly.)
What I ended up doing is going into the Google account options on the phone. Under search - voice there is an option for "OK Google detection" doing this seemed to completely disable it. I don't understand how people are comfortable having an open mic with them at all times. Just because you "have nothing to hide" doesn't mean something should always be listening.
djscrew said:
What I ended up doing is going into the Google account options on the phone. Under search - voice there is an option for "OK Google detection" doing this seemed to completely disable it. I don't understand how people are comfortable having an open mic with them at all times. Just because you "have nothing to hide" doesn't mean something should always be listening.
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It may always be listening, but it isn't always recording. The Ok, Google hotword detection only records the first second before and after you say Ok, Google. It's not always sending things over to Google. Just because you have things to hide, doesn't mean you should be paranoid about it
The google services have indeed plagued many phones for their background services, alarms, and receivers.
What I cannot understand is how the 'Ok Google' still works even when I have switched my watch to Airplane Mode.
Not everyone buys an Android Wear to enjoy the google services. Some, including me, like only the Wear Faces. One watch, many wear faces, saves the money to 'collect' many different watches just for the sake of keeping up a lifestyle.

Text message: "Sorry I couldn't do that."

Ever since upgrading to Androidwear 2.0 (what a POS, over-complicated mess of an OS!) I can't initiate text messages from my Zenwatch 2. I tell it to send a message but all I get is "I'm sorry I couldn't do that." When I first noticed this I un-paired the watch and un-installed and re-installed everything. Messaging worked for a while, but now it's back to telling me it can't send messages. Any ideas on getting this working permanently? I have half a mind to toss this aggravating device in the trash right now!
Same for me
My voice messages continued working with Android Wear 2.0, but the latest version (28 July 2017) has screwed up anything I used to do with voice commands. The voice command is interpreted OK and the text appears on the screen, but the action does not take place. Huawei Honor 8 with LG W150 Urbane smartwatch. I have 1 star reviewed Android Wear on google as they seem to respond to reviews, albeit with a useless link to the hardware manufacturer. I think 1 star is right as my smart watch can barely do more than a regular digital watch these days. Used to be great but 2.0 and this latest update have rendered it pretty useless.
I've also been having problems with voice stuff since Wear 2... I have a bunch of Hue lights and whenever I say "ok google, turn on the lights in the living room" it now shows me a picture of someone turning on the lights in a living room...not exactly what I'm looking for there...
I did discover something though - it seems it's the "Ok Google" detection that's the culprit... If I long-press the button on the watch to open Google assistant, it will turn on my lights or send a text or start a timer or whatever else I tell it to do. I've had no problems whatsoever that way. It just bugs me that I have to press the button rather than say ok google. I haven't figured out why that is yet, but give the button a shot, that might let you text that way...

Bixby Voice Button Issue. No Time To Speak Before It Fails.

Whenever I hold the Bixby button on the side I try to speak as soon as it comes up and no matter how quickly I speak or what I say it always fails and says it couldn't hear me. It fails almost instantly. How do I fix this or extend the amount of time that Bixby listens to pick up what I'm trying to say/ask? Otherwise this function is absolutely useless!
Thanks in advance! I've never used or had Bixby before. I had the note 4 perviously. FYI I have the T-Mobile version of the S9 plus right now.
Have you tried the google assistant app just to see if it can hear your command?
You are supposed to hold the button while speaking to it. kinda like a walkie talkie button
Thanks! I have one other question about Voice to Text please
Not sure why, but I searched all over and no one had this simple answer. I went from the Note 4 to the S9+, so I have no experience with Bixby. Thanks for the tip to hold the button while speaking. :good:highfive:
Any suggestions on changing the voice to text service used when creating my text messages and other things? I get SOOO many typos with Samsungs version. Googles at least have fewer types and sometimes none. It was much more intuitive in fixing things if it heard me wrong as well. I looked all over my phones options, but am not sure how I can change to Voice-to-Text button in the Galaxy S9+ keyboard to Google Voice, or better more accurate one if there is one better than goggles. I like to swype with my finger to type my messages, but my Note 4 had a much more accurate/better setup for creating SMS and other times that I use the keyboard, but can't or don't want to type. It doesn't save time if I have to go back and fix soooo many typos from it hearing me incorrectly. Plus for some reason, if I start speaking again in the middle of a sentence it ALWAYS capitalizes the word I start with, even though it is in the middle of the sentence. Such a pain as I see no option to turn it off without turning off auto-capitalizing the 1st word of a sentence, which I love and have used for years on many phones.
Thanks,
JewlZ
So if u like Google speech to text, install Google Assistant, then use one of the apps from the themes and apps subforum for this device to re-map the Bixby button. You can then start Google Assistant with the Bixby button.
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> Any suggestions on changing the voice to text service used when creating my text messages and other things?
Depends how you are launching speech to text. if you are launching speech to text using a microphone in the keyboard app, then use settings within that keyboard app or change keyboards (gboard will certainly launch Google STT). if you are launching from Google assistant, then it will again use Google stt.

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