I would like to direct this to the Moderators or any other higher ups that need to get involved.
This Q&A Bot thing is rediculous.
It is posting in seemingly every device for every rom. Stating to direct all questions in regard to a rom in Q&A sections in order to keep development from getting clogged up.
All its doing is clogging up Q&A.
I thought the concept was, if it is a question within regards to a specific rom, that's what the thread is for?
If it is a device specific question, then it goes to Q&A?
When you click to view Q&A Bot profile, it comes up invalid. Is this a new system generated thing to organize the threads better?
Not working. To me it is just as bad as having an ad pop up.
Honestly, I find myself wanting to come on here less. I come here in attempt to help others if I can. An attempt to return favors that others have done for me. What is the point of Q&A Bot to create a thread it cannot support or will not respond to?
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The Q&A bot only comes into action when a new user tries posting in the development section. As you know, new users can't post in development threads. So the Q&A bot makes a new thread in the Q&A section so the new users post can be read.
I can see where xda thinks this is a way of getting newbies heard and keeping development threads clean. But when you boil it all down it actually creates clutter and disarray. Because after all isn't XDA a development site? Therefore all threads here are considered development threads in my opinion.
In my opinion only recognized developers should be able to post in development threads. All development posts should have links to respective Q&A threads. Leaving development threads clean of everything but the dev's posts. This way the dev can post tweaks, bugs and tips that are easily found without going thru 100's of posts to find solutions. The dev can monitor the Q&A thread and answer questions there. When a valid question arises the dev can answer it in the Q&A thread. Then make an update post in the development thread.
What do you think?
If only people with "RD" status can post in the dev section this device and a lot more others would be pretty boring to own. I agree with @captemo those threads are cluttering the place up and are a bit annoying, plus I thought there was a 10 post count rule that prevented new users to post in the dev section? is that rule no longer in place or something or is it being circumvented in some way? I get the point of those threads in order to help out new users get the advice they seek and all but honestly its seems like a lot of users now a days don't bother to read a few pages of a thread let alone use the search function , and want to be spoon fed. Not trying to be a d-bag or any thing like that but it gets a bit out of hand at times seeing the answer they seek is just usually a few pages back from the last one. OK my ranting is over lol....
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i agree with some of what all you have said...but with that said.
our Q&A section is already a mess. The only one ive ever seen that wasnt is in the epic 4g touch forum, and thats because they had a member create a noob friendly support thread for all questions and roms. And the members,myself included, made sure questions were posted there and not just making a new thread for questions that have been asked and answered. It also allowed the more experienced members to have a place to help that was easy to find and point noobs in the right direction.
if you guys are interested in starting and supporting such a thread. i would look at the e4gt thread for ideas how to set it up...or u can look at the one i made and support in the galaxy tab 10.1 forum. Here is the Link to mine, as i cant seem to get a mod over there to sticky it.
These threads should give you all a nice idea about how a similar thread here would help, if used and a mod stickies it so it is always seen by new members.
as im soon departing this forum for a new device..i will not start such a thread. But will always stop in to help support it.
Have a great day,
Gil81 ( John )
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Thank you Mskip for adding this new sub forum for the HD2, and for taking the time to move and sort out all the Q/A posts from the Themes and apps thread.
It will be OH SO NICE to see a clean themes forum.
Cheers
Wolfee
OMG! I posted this in the themes and apps forum fist by mistake.
erm confused why couldn't these just be moved to the general section seen as its full of crap anyway ?
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erm confused why couldn't these just be moved to the general section seen as its full of crap anyway ?
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I agree! Generally I don't fancy the Q&A sub forums. I think that a question should be posted in the same thread as the related subjects, or in a new thread in one of the sub forums that encompasses the subject.
If I have a question regarding a specific ROM, should i post it in Q&A or in the ROM thread?
If I have a question regarding, say a car holder, should the question go in the Q&A or the accessories sub forum?
What distinguishes General from Q&A?
I don't really see a purpose to this subforum as the questions asked pretty much can be categorized under the general subforum...
I was having a look through just now and i figured out what this board is for but it may require it be renamed. The board seems to be filled with questions already asked atleast 10 times (if not 100) before. So we could rename this board the "I can't be bothered to google anything unless it's porn. Please, please hurt and embarrass me" board and then we would have a place for the senior members to vent their frustrations at the people that cause them.
The only rule would be the OP's have no right of reply unless they really can show respect, willingness and gratitude. In fact i think all new members should be locked into only being able to post to this new board and only allowed to make one new post a day. Every attempt to post after that would present them with a search box and the words "Use this Dumbass"
Hmm seems i got a little carried away there but TBH it's a nice idea considering it started out as a joke and i rambled on it a little bit.
I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
What question do you have. Also if you read, the development forum is only for development, not asking questions.
You have no idea how many new members go in and ask questions that have been asked millions of times before or in the sticky that has BIG BOLD LETTERS ON THE TOP SAYING READ ME. And also 90% sure this thread will be locked anyways since it has nothing to do with the phones.
Oh to answer your question.
Since its an App, you're not going to find help on the black text because thats just the way the app is coded. Go complain to the developer of the app and not the ROM.
And by recovery console do you mean cwm? If so, have fun.
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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Sorry, that's a rough intro. I hope you won't be turned off by XDA as a whole. I try to keep things positive and look forward to seeing you around these boards.
EDIT, as to your questions, briefly in case this thread gets closed:
1) No easy way to change font/color behavior in a single app. As a workaround, you can hold finger over a list entry/item and read the text sometimes while it is highlighted. Some apps have theme settings for dark/light themes for exactly this situation.
2) I know modifying recovery is possible (Siyah kernel for instance) but have never seen one with larger fonts. At any rate, it's not a setting that can be changed on the fly.
I think they mean for questions like "how do i flash a rom" , "how do i return to stock" , general non rom specific questions. Any specific rom questions need to go in that dev's thread. As far as needing ten posts, find some threads that interest you in the general or q & a and comment on them.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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There are also plenty of threads in the off topic forum area that you can post in to bring your post count up.
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+ 1 its not hard at all to get 10 posts. Just look for a thread where you can comment.
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I typically don't like to post for the sake of posting. The thread in question is here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523286
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I'm pretty sure none of us are... But this is the rule for XDA that was set forth... 10 post is not a lot, especially comparing to some of the other sites that I seen out there. As of now you have 7 posts. Only 3 more posts and you should be good to go.
Keep it in mind the moderators/administrators here work hard to keep this forums nice and clean. So, new users can find things easier.
As some of the earlier posts and responses, they should already tell you what you can and cannot do.
As penguinlogik said, I would stay away from CWM. Or you will definately have a field day with it, that is from my experience.
Wait was that in the Q&A section that it was asked?
Anyways to answer your question;
The app was made for an unthemed version of the rom. When we theme stuff in the framework often times it directly effects some apps. Apps that are using framework colors anyways.
The only way to fix the app is to mod the app yourself or use a unthemed rom.
Theming is a tough job as it cant usually be done without effecting something else (app) unfortunately.
Hope that helps...
Thank you shoman, that was the first useful reply to my original question.
Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Threads to ***** about the mods are lame.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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Well said.
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axis01 said:
I think you need to understand where XDA came from. It was never meant as a place for the masses to come and gather. It was meant for developers to come and share knowledge to make their phones better. What you see now is what happens when you do it EXTREMELY WELL. It is EXPECTED OF YOU to read, read, and read some more before you ask questions. Yes that may take minutes, hours or even days, but that's what you have to do.
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question or ignore it. Especially when its in the q&a.
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Uh what part of this thread *****es about mods?
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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While I agree.., its easier to just answer the question....
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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"Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense."
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This rewards laziness and propagates more useless threads.
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But all this *****ing is just as useless.
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That dude was not nice... I had the same problem when started into xda, search results had no answer for my specific dilemma, and I had to make 10 posts before being able to get a real answer for my initial question. But it helped me out, cause now I use search all the time when I got questions and haven't had anyone scold me over my posts, but all that aside this is a very useful forum. Enjoy XDA!
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I was just scolded by Red5 for posting a new thread. I can't post in the Development forum, as I don't have enough posts yet. I DID search for the answer, and when I couldn't find I did as the message below told me to do. Post the question in the Q&A forum.
I'm not a moron, or a troll, I'm an experienced IT professional with a simple question. New members are going to have more questions than answers when getting started in this forum. Rules that block people from putting comments where they belong, then scolding people for putting them where they're told to (see below) just doesn't make much sense.
Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
Then I suggest you read the sticky thread and look at the FAQ and look in the Iscrewed thread for your answers. Just because you cant post to ask your probably already answered question, dosent mean you get to start a new thread about it.
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I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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What did I tell you? I said that you didnt need to start a thread to ask your question. There were plenty of threads already started that you could have popped in and asked your question. Once again, no reading was done. Had you read my post (let me quote that for you here):
I said NOT TO START A NEW THREAD ABOUT IT. Thats why it was closed. If you consider that scolding, then you're in a rude awakening from other members here at XDA.
The reason we put up the 10 post minimum was because 99.9% of all questions are either answered in the sticky threads, guides, walkthroughs, FAQ or threads already started... you just have to look. As previously stated by another member, by learning to search when you first register, it set a precident for the remainder of your stay on how to act and what to do on this forum.
This is a Development site for Developers... its not a phone version of WalMart where people pop in to start a thread or just order what they want. If you want answers, just like the internet itself, you're going to have to search... and this same answer can be found in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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hello guys im over new here
i knew that this forum has many gr8 roms for SGSIII i9300 therefore i joined the forum
but i have a small question
i went to dev section and found a rom and tried to post a reply it asked me to post the reply after 10 minimum posts, idk where to post them so i refered to this section for help, then i found another post saying why is that 10 minimum posts rule is there and the replies were due to noops who ask irrevelant questions and so on, but in my case i have been in many forums before and no such rules is found in them, so my question is why this rule is there where i have nothing to say in Q&A section, am i forced to post in this section or what exactly to be able to post in other section like dev section and thanks a lot in advance and thanks for creating such a gr8 forum
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hello guys im over new here
i knew that this forum has many gr8 roms for SGSIII i9300 therefore i joined the forum
but i have a small question
i went to dev section and found a rom and tried to post a reply it asked me to post the reply after 10 minimum posts, idk where to post them so i refered to this section for help, then i found another post saying why is that 10 minimum posts rule is there and the replies were due to noops who ask irrevelant questions and so on, but in my case i have been in many forums before and no such rules is found in them, so my question is why this rule is there where i have nothing to say in Q&A section, am i forced to post in this section or what exactly to be able to post in other section like dev section and thanks a lot in advance and thanks for creating such a gr8 forum
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if I understand well, the dev forum is for development (dev ), at least that was the initial idea, hence asking questions in ROM threads is sometimes not seen productive (therefore the Q&A section) by the dev as he losses the overview and might miss dev related posts. hence the limit .
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if I understand well, the dev forum is for development (dev ), at least that was the initial idea, hence asking questions in ROM threads is sometimes not seen productive (therefore the Q&A section) by the dev as he losses the overview and might miss dev related posts. hence the limit .
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so u mean that it is obligatory to post at-least 10 post in Q&A section for posting in other section ???
All answers can be found by coming in through the front door, reading the rules and taking time to familiarize yourself with the forum. It is a huge forum with several million users and the rules exist in order to keep things orderly.
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All answers can be found by coming in through the front door, reading the rules and taking time to familiarize yourself with the forum. It is a huge forum with several million users and the rules exist in order to keep things orderly.
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ok thanks, nd i'll
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Hello and greetings, this is my first post.
I've been reading these forums for quite a while and I own a Note II. I have followed a discussion in the OAD forums, including flashing a new rom, and have run the rom for a month now. I am simply having some trouble with a couple of aspects that haven't been addressed in the thread. I wish to solicit advice from the community.
Unfortunately, I cannot post because of the following rule:
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Please Read: New members (those with fewer than 10 posts) are not permitted to post to development-related forums. The developer forums are intended for experienced users and developers to discuss ways to improve technical aspects related to ROMs and Software. While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
To ask Questions about developing your device, installing ROMs, software and themes you must go to the Q&A or General Forum.
Remember, your question has very likely been asked already, so please search before posting.
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As I am reading this, particularly the 'fewer than 10 posts' part, I am thinking something like, 'but I am a computer expert'. And then I reach this part, which addresses what I feel I am directly:
While you may be an expert, we ask ALL users to avoid posting questions about using or installing ROMs and software in the Development Forums. To encourage this new Users can read but not post in these forums.
It's an interesting thing to ask when most of the discussions in the forum I cannot post to directly involve 'using or installing ROMs'. It definitely allows me to avoid posting questions about my particular interest. Instead I need to write ten posts, and this is the first. I don't know.. is this rule really necessary? Should I make nine crap posts so I can get around to talking about what I want to talk about, and joining what is already a burgeoning discussion? Should I just.. leave? Or should I chill out?
Maybe post your questions in the Q&A sections? Just a thought....
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I would find the forum for your rom and ask the question there. You can ask a question in a thread already created just not create a new one.
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Yeah I am restricted to many things due to not posting and it makes me not able to make post to help even though I've been a member for a little while now
damned, i am restricted toooooo
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i completely agree, this makes it so a large percentage of people who have questions cannot ask the people they want, cannot give bug reports and causes all sorts of problems. i can download a rom but cannot contribute at all to any issues, so i guess i can just make random posts in random topics( like the trolls you seek to weed out would no doubt do) but i havent biothered. its a stupid rule and the devs should be the most angry about this but i doubt they are aware that we have to go to other non devs to sort out the issues.
@coma73 Random posts and junk posts will be deleted, setting you back to your starting point. The moral of this story, follow the rules and all will be well; create junk/spam/random posts and be forever stuck with post limitations. We do check. Kinda funny, because that's how I stumbled into this thread.
In any event, we have the General and Q&A sections of the forums for you to read, learn, and ask any questions you may have. Most ROM's will have a Q&A thread already available, usually posted in (wait for it....) the Q&A forum, these are readily available for you to post your questions, comments, bug reports and feedback. If you're still stuck, there are many members here that would be willing to post on your behalf in a particular development thread.
We encourage members to utilize the resources at hand and the rules are pretty clear about why and the intention behind the post limitations. If you are unable to come up with 10 posts that are not junk/spam/random, you don't belong here any way.
I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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There are a lot of inexperienced users who post pretty easy questions across the boards. It won't take long to get up/past 10 posts if you respond to a few of those. Helpful for them to to benefit from your experience.
Sito13 said:
I stumbled across the same issue and it's really annoying. I'm not an inexperienced user in any way, been using custom roms for 2 years and just want to give some constructive feedback to a custom rom I'm using which does NOT have a Q&A thread.
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In this instance a post in general forums is sufficient.
This has been argued time and time again, fought tooth and nail, and it will not change. It helps far more than you guys realize.
Is it honestly that difficult to come up with ten non spam posts? I mean really, you find a bug and post about it in general forums, there's one.
A question? Q&A forums, there's two...
I had to do it, every developer here had to do it, hell, every member posting in development had to do it. It is not that hard.
So put on your big boy pants,quit complaining, and just post.
The rules still apply, and anything spam or completely useless will be deleted.
On that note, this thread is closed.
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I would like to direct this to the Moderators or any other higher ups that need to get involved.
This Q&A Bot thing is rediculous.
It is posting in seemingly every device for every rom. Stating to direct all questions in regard to a rom in Q&A sections in order to keep development from getting clogged up.
All its doing is clogging up Q&A.
I thought the concept was, if it is a question within regards to a specific rom, that's what the thread is for?
If it is a device specific question, then it goes to Q&A?
When you click to view Q&A Bot profile, it comes up invalid. Is this a new system generated thing to organize the threads better?
Not working. To me it is just as bad as having an ad pop up.
Honestly, I find myself wanting to come on here less. I come here in attempt to help others if I can. An attempt to return favors that others have done for me. What is the point of Q&A Bot to create a thread it cannot support or will not respond to?
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The whole QA Bot thing is automatic, but whether it's turned on or not for a specific thread depends on the author of the main thread.
I can understand that some developers want to keep their thread clean and without noobish questions, especially for new devices or devices with high popularity, but I agree with you on the part that this is not of much use for less active devices - there just aren't that many posts at all and separating them into threads is more spamming than helping.
So yeah, if you feel so troubled, either try asking the thread author to disable it (not likely), or submit the annoyance to XDA's suggestions section... Hopefully they could make this more flexible...
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