Charging Dock - it's a portable charger! - Samsung Gear S

I had no idea about this, but apparently the charging dock is a portable charger itself! The manual also acknowledges this I actually found this out after I attached the dock, and it "boop beep" charging notification went off before I even plugged the thing in!

Yep, just found that out the other day. Don't remember where I read it, but I think I read it holds a full charge or at least close. Not sure though, haven't had mine long enough yet.

It is a nice little bonus, but it suggests to me that Samsung know how bad the battery life is when all the features are used.
It doesn't look great at the moment, but I am sure a few tweaks will arrive soon to help.

I hope they start to sell these soon. I would like to have one in my work bag to charge the phone at work also.

I did mention and posted pics in the review thread that you CAN wear it with the watch but it looks very dorky and makes it 1" thick.
According to the manual, it will charge the Gear S up to about 50% only.
I suspect due to the small capacity, it is not efficient enough to drive the charge conversion electronics. The Gear S has a 300mAh battery, while the dock has 350mAh.
In most literature I've seen, low current does not allow efficient conversion, therefore this probably explains it.
It will be cool though if Samsung can sell some form of extended battery clip on, maybe wider than the current one, that enfolds around the left and right sides of the Gear S. Super dorky I know, but hey you'll get at least 12 hours of full use then

I just noticed this tonight. Very cool.

rfs830 said:
I hope they start to sell these soon. I would like to have one in my work bag to charge the phone at work also.
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29.99
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/wearable-tech/SM-R750PZKASPR-accessories

Tip from the Gear 1 and Gear 2 days; make sure you search for Samsung coupon codes or Samsung discount codes, when you go to buy accessories. I have used these several times to get 50% off. Search the Gear 2 forum before you order and try to find these codes., then enter at Checkout from Samsung.com
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Tip from the Gear 1 and Gear 2 days; make sure you search for Samsung coupon codes or Samsung discount codes, when you go to buy accessories. I have used these several times to get 50% off. Search the Gear 2 forum before you order and try to find these codes., then enter at Checkout from Samsung.com
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Here is a code I just pulled up from http://www.retailmenot.com/view/samsung.com?c=4861960
Make sure you are registered to the Samsung.com website first to be able to use these type of codes.

I can confirm the battery dock provides about 50% of a recharge...certainly not close to a full recharge.

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Wireless charger?

Hi all..
I remember when S3 came out.. We would soon see wireless charging for it.. But I stil cant find it..
Or is it just me=?
Samsung is not yet done with the galaxy s3 release.. Its gonna release a lte version.. so we might see the wireless charger after that...
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You can buy a wireless charging kit by Samsung for the S3. I think it's already out coz I've seen it at my local phone shop. I think the wireless charging kit is a replacement for the back cover with the battery built into the back cover. I'm not entirely sure how it works but Google is your friend
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Haven't seen one here (NL) yet, but in US it should be available: http://omgdroid.com/wireless-charging-kit-now-available-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii/ . Will cost around $90 for charger and backplate. Not original Samsung for $65 from ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...74696?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item2ec1c60108
Trust Me When SamSung's Inductive Charger
Is Ready for or/and already on shelves, YOU will know it. It's kinda funny how so many don't believe or understand that This is A BIG DEAL for Samsung and Qualcomm. So as you may have or will read in other chats that Samsung is Qi ....not sure about standard, they are member of here and there, IGNORE them. It is Quite over at Samsung and their Best Bud's place, and for good reasons.
That aren't just dragging their feet etc. They are and have been for few years, working on what they are doing and when it comes it's going to make a lot of people and maybe more then just the samsung customers say, WOW, that is Awesome, Cool etc. Who the heck wants to simply just lay their phone down on this specific spot to charge a phone without a single cord touching the phone.
When we can have our phones in our pockets (guys) or purses (gals) and when you are business doing something, shopping, eating, sleeping, driving, your phone, media player, laptop, Flat screen tv, Blender and more, will be busy not bothering you as you forgot it's in your pocket, it will be charging or receive power even as you move around the room, the house or the Store you are at.
And when u are at that store, you begin to forget all about your phone because that box of Trix cereal on the shelves is flashing lights at you and the Characters are dancing around, YES, on the box.....It's still the tradition size and thickness paper box product, but only difference is that it looks like the Vegas Strip at night.
So go grab that little container of Lunch size Beef Stew and set it on the counter top and look on side of beef stew cup and choose how hot you want it and press it. It will heat it in the container on the counter top all without opening it or getting a pot and a stop to put it on.
Ok I'm tired...that was fun.....I have been following this, learning this and purchasing for a few years now and I am ready for this to be pushed out of hiding by a BIG company or three and make the people wake up and see what this is that they don't know they want yet but is old and has been out for a while and so many positives with this Technology and 110 years is long enough to not be scared anymore...Tesla, Look him up...He is the person that gave us the Electricity that you are using now, NOT EDDISON. he is a wack job and his power was DC power which didn't work...
Thank you for reading and want to get tips of where to find and read more, as I do alot of research, I'll be glad to help.
BUT IF you want to be a know it all and wrong this and wrong that then please go do it somewhere else. Unless you can email me your background, source of education on these subjects or you work at my company and I don't know you or have met you yet and you want to confuse people even more then they will be with all this coming to Us. Please start your own discussion down the Hall...
Thanks again

Wireless Charging

I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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I really like this idea. I've currently got a dock for my Rezound, and while it is more convenient than a loose cable most of the time, its still fan be a bit of a pain sometimes.
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dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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Did you get the LG one? If so, supposedly the thing beeps super loudly every time the charger turns on according to the Amazon.com reviews.
You are supposed to be able to take it apart and remove the speaker from the board.
I just ordered 2 for $35 ea from there... hoping for the best.
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I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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I did, but I don't mind the beep. It doesn't seem that loud to me.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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Great. I'm curious if the beep happens every time the charger kicks on (I believe it shuts off automatically when the phone is fully charged) or if it's just one "beep" when the phone is set down on it.
Either way, I'll probably be disconnecting the speaker since I will use one bedside (don't want to wake the sig other) and one at work and don't want to bother my coworkers either.
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When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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dsb9938 said:
When you set it down. The beep is to tell you it's placed correctly on the mat.
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Right on.. I'll be able to tell that by the lightning symbol in the battery icon too.
Beep be damned! lol
I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
Spaded21 said:
I'm planning on getting the Energizer one.
http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Sin...76&sr=8-3&keywords=energizer+wireless+charger
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Looks like a good choice, although more $ and out of stock apparently (for now).
dsb9938 said:
I just picked up a wireless charging pad from my VZW store.
I love it!
I can now just set my phone on the nightstand next to the bed and not have to worry about plugging it in.
Thank you HTC for finally making this built in, and not an option!
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i was on the fence yesterday about getting it, and picked it up today and i am so glad i did. i especially like how firm of a grip it has. i still think i may pick up the energizer one from amazon so i can have one at home and one at the office
I'm thinking of picking up the LG pad (and ripping the speaker out) to put on my desk. I can't think of anything more convenient that just putting the phone down and it charging up. I'll probably continue to use a charger at night for now. I'm not really crazy about the LG pad, and you know there'll be more options out there soon. I'd rather hold off and get one that's maybe more stylish, or slimmer (and no beep!) before I invest in a second pad.
I'd like to see a USB powered pad if possible, so I could toss it in my bag and take it to work with me (no free outlets at my desk so I currently charge my phone through the USB port).
I just ordered the nokia charger from verizons website, it is compatible with DNA.
Long Term Use
I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
Matto2007 said:
I have read that wireless charging causes the battery to get warmer than corded charging. I wonder since this is a non-replaceable battery will that effect the overall life of the battery. Is anyone else worried about long term use of a charging pad. I love the idea but wonder if it will cause issues later on.
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What I'm worried about is the constant charging and discharging that will happen when we're forced to charge it over night, at work, and then in the car.
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
luke1333 said:
also picked up a wireless pad for the dna and it was only $35 on amazon! i was shocked! great deal! dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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Could you provide a link please
luke1333 said:
...dont know how far away it will work from the pad???
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
jj3699 said:
Could you provide a link please
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right here man....
http://www.amazon.com/LG-WCP-700-Po...id=1353287259&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+charging+pad
welcome!
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The phone has to be on the pad for it to charge.
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so it wont work an inch above at all?
I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
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I didn't see it answered anywhere, but if you go with the wireless charger will you be able to keep a slim case on it? I don't want to put an otterbox on it or anything since it is already a pretty big phone, but I would like to put one of those slim form-fitting cases on it.
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the one i just picked up today says that it is wireless charger compatible, i will know for sure tomorrow when i get to the office and throw it on there. if it isnt, it will be going back super quick

OWL Car Pad (Qi Car Charger)

Hey guys,
I went out on a limb and bought the OWL car charger+dock for my DNA.
There is a bunch of discussion on the item here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2029734 along with plenty of pictures.
I wanted to let you guys know some specifics for the DNA:
1. The phone fits perfectly into the clip. I don't have any cases, so I can't test that, but naked the phone fits like a glove and is very secure, even upside down.
2. Even the "second generation" of charger still does not put out enough juice for the DNA, even with the phone at idle.
I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him. I am thinking the problem might have something to do with the controller inside the charger. It switches to red (charging) momentarily when the phone is inserted, but then switches back to green (full).
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I have emailed Moon and will update this thread when I hear back from him.
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Update 1: Moon has emailed back already to assure me that if the charger doesn't work, he will do what it takes to make it right.
I am hoping we can figure out a way to make the phone work in the charger, since I love the design and the convenience of Qi...
awesome! I have been wondering if it works for our phone since I saw the post you linked above about a week ago. I emailed moon about it, but he was unsure. I'm glad that someone confirmed what I have been wondering. Thanks again
I'm also looking forward to more info on this. Going through the website I couldn't quite follow if it worked or not.
Update 2:
The Qi charging coil built into the CarPad does work to charge the HTC DNA, unfortunately the coil is positioned about 0.5" too low for the phone.
Moon is working on an adjustment to the circuit board to re-position the charging coil.
Tonight I am going to take a look at temperatures during charging. With the screen turned on the battery did get 3-4°C warmer than normal on the Nokia Qi charger, but it was a pretty short charge. I am going to try leaving the screen turned on and the phone charging on the CarPad tonight for a couple of hours to see the charge rate and temperature change.
Other news:
There does not seem to be any scuffing, scratching, or denting of the phone's finish caused by inserting and removing from the clip. I had worried that the spring arms on the side might hurt the matte finish on the back of the phone, but so far I don't see any changes.
Thanks guys,
Ben
thanks for the update, keep us posted. in car qi charging is very interesting.
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Thanks, I got a reply from Moon that he thinks the "autopad" will be the option for the DNA and he'll let me know when it is available. I will post info here if I hear back.
http://owlpad.net/owl-autopad/
Update 3:
Good news tonight. First, I've done a temperature test using the phone at room temperature. With navigation, LTE, and the screen constantly on the CarPad provides moderage charge (+200mAh) and does not cause excessively high heat (under 45°C). This is comparable with the 43°C I saw with the Nokia Qi charger while watching a Netflix Stream.
With the screen off the temperature is also pretty normal (35°C) so I think the coil is good.
Moon at Owl Chargers tells me that he may add a little to the coil to make it more consistent on the charging, and he is going to create a new PCB that has the coil positioned 1/2" higher so that it will line up properly with the DNA.
It sounds like this change could happen pretty quickly, but I will let you know when I have the test board in hand.
Thanks guys,
Ben
Please keep the updates coming, thanks!
Hey everyone, sorry for a few days of delay.
I talked to Moon this morning and he thinks they should have the test board created by the beginning of next week. He is moving the charging coil up to line up better with both the DNA and the Galaxy S3, and he is upgrading to a bigger charging coil to presumably give better charging efficiency.
I have removed the standard charging coil from the phone holding base and have been using it as a standard desktop charger for the last few days (with the Owl-Pad supplied AC Adapter). It has been working well for that as long as I position the phone properly, so with any luck the new board should fix the problem in the car mount.
I will let you guys know when the new part ships, and will be sure to take pictures of the new versus old board.
Thanks,
Ben
Thanks for the updates.
Sudo make me a sandwich.
Good news from Moon at OWL Pad today, the new circuit board is complete, his testing looks good, and he is shipping it out to me to test on the DNA tomorrow.
I will update everyone here with pictures once I have the new board and have been able to try it out, but Moon posted some initial tests on the Galaxy S3 and Note 2 which both charge at the higher position. Those tests looked good so I have to think it will work on the DNA as well.
Thanks all,
Ben
(You can see my pictures and charging screenshots on the OwlPad site)
http://owlpad.net/2013/02/24/owl-carpad-for-htc-droid-dn/
AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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AWESOME! thanks again. for the final product, he will make a new charger right? we wont have to buy the old one and replace the circuit board i hope.
thanks again.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I'm not sure how he would do that. I'm sure he has a bunch of the units already boxed up from the last production run. It might be that he has to ship the old unit and the new board separate. Honestly, changing the board was incredibly easy. There are four screws and then the old board just lifts out and the new one drops in.
When the new one comes in I had planned on putting up pictures showing how to remove the old one and install the new one.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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I think I'd love to get both boards since then I'd be prepared if my next phone requires the "other" position.
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Looks like the set is for sale for the DNA on the web page now. Still sounds like he's waiting for test results but you go through with an order now if you want.
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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So far everything looks GREAT!
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
bmyton said:
Hey Guys,
I got the unit in the mail when I got home from work (30 minutes ago).
So far everything looks GREAT!
I am running temperature and charging tests now, but the new coil position looks perfect, and I'm getting as much or possibly more current out of the OWL charger than I was getting out of the Nokia.
Tonight I should have pictures and screen shots available from my early tests, but I have to say that everything looks great so far.
I also want to add that the level of customer service and responsiveness from Moon at OWL charging was incredible. If I got service half as good from the companies I do business with in the US I would be amazed, and these folks are having to deal with me from the other side of the world. I have absolutely no ties with their company, and hadn't even spoken to them to ask if the charger worked for my phone before I ordered, but they went above and beyond any expectations in getting this charger working.
Once I have a few hours charging I can fill in the remaining details (temperatures, approximate charge time, etc), but right now I would say the newest version is a huge success!
-Ben
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awesome! thanks for the feedback and being a Guinea pig for us all... i really appreciate it. so to make sure, you are now using the carpad/N2 right? if so, i'm gunna go ahead and place my order.
Thanks again
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I forgot to mention, the +300 mah charging rate was with the screen locked on, LTE, GPS, Navigation, and Pandora all running.
Ben
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Thanks! Placed my order. I'm willing to give it a shot at this point!

[Q] Which I777 Rom supports charging using a I9100 battery

Hello!! I have a I777 and my battery is almost dead and since I can't find a I777's battery on my country I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a rom (or Kernel) in which I can use and charge a 9100 baterry on my I777 without having the loop issue.
Thanks!!!
zorak20 said:
Hello!! I have a I777 and my battery is almost dead and since I can't find a I777's battery on my country I was wondering if anyone can recommend me a rom (or Kernel) in which I can use and charge a 9100 baterry on my I777 without having the loop issue.
Thanks!!!
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No rom/kernel package will be able to get around this hardware issue. You'll either have to make do with what you have or simply buy an i777 battery. They're really cheap ($5 or so), check in the Accessories forum for more info.
The $5 batteries are all fake, and are exactly the same as i9100 fake batteries. They don't have NFC.
i9100 battery is a fit and if you have a normal one - it should work without bootloops.
My phone has lived with i9100 battery for a couple of months.
Jack_R1 said:
The $5 batteries are all fake, and are exactly the same as i9100 fake batteries. They don't have NFC.
i9100 battery is a fit and if you have a normal one - it should work without bootloops.
My phone has lived with i9100 battery for a couple of months.
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You are right, the cheap battery are all fakes and don't work but anyway, the problem is that I'm from Argentina and because of new government rules related to importations, I cannot buy a i777 from outside and in my country is imposible to find them.
What do you mean by a normal one? I tried an original i9100 on my i777 and I got the loops .
The reason of this post is because long time ago I read, don't remember where, that with some roms the i9100 battery worked ok so I though that maybe something could be shut off o done in the roms/kernels to disable the NFC. I google a lot but I couldn't find anything and unfortunately I don't have much time to go around testing every single rom. :crying:
Sooo any help would be much appreciated.
Just in case, I'm using SHOstock3 rom, I cannot ask in his thread due to my "new" status but If anyone can ask him, maybe he can find a way to change something in the room to avoid the loops.
thanks!!!!
The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
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The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
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Define "fake".
For me, "fake" is when it says "SAMSUNG" on the battery, while it's not produced by Samsung, when it says "NFC" on the battery, but there's no NFC chip inside it, and when it states battery capacity, and the battery capacity isn't even 1/2 of the stated.
By all these criteria, the cheap batteries are fake. They don't have NFC chip, they're not produced by Samsung, they're not even the same batteries - you can read on Skyrocket forums, I've dismantled a true Samsung battery vs fake one and compared, it's easy to spot the fake by touch - the real battery fills all the possible space it has, the fake battery has a plastic holder around a smaller battery that's made to look and fit larger space. Of course, physically smaller battery also means - crappy capacity, nowhere near the "official" claim.
If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too, until I got annoyed enough that my wife's phone can't live till the end of the day, found and bought $30 original Samsung battery. Night and day difference. And the original battery is still alive till today.
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zorak20 said:
You are right, the cheap battery are all fakes and don't work but anyway, the problem is that I'm from Argentina and because of new government rules related to importations, I cannot buy a i777 from outside and in my country is imposible to find them.
What do you mean by a normal one? I tried an original i9100 on my i777 and I got the loops .
The reason of this post is because long time ago I read, don't remember where, that with some roms the i9100 battery worked ok so I though that maybe something could be shut off o done in the roms/kernels to disable the NFC. I google a lot but I couldn't find anything and unfortunately I don't have much time to go around testing every single rom. :crying:
Sooo any help would be much appreciated.
Just in case, I'm using SHOstock3 rom, I cannot ask in his thread due to my "new" status but If anyone can ask him, maybe he can find a way to change something in the room to avoid the loops.
thanks!!!!
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I'm not sure of the reason for bootloops, but I'm quite sure it isn't NFC - because the fake cheap batteries don't have NFC either. The additional contact on the battery board is connected to nothing.
I always ran stock-derived ROMs on the phone (SHOStock mostly, but at some point - some other ROM I've ported from i9100), never had a problem running i9100 battery, both true and fake one.
If you can look at the logcat and pinpoint the failure that sends you into a bootloop - it might help.
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The cheap batteries are not all fake, I'm using one as well as others. It's true NFC capabilities are lost, but who cares: NFC barely worked for this device in the first place.
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The problems is that without NFC on the battery you cannot charge it...don't you have this problem?
Are you using a i777 or a i9100 battery? Which rom are you using?
Thanks!
Jack_R1 said:
Define "fake".
For me, "fake" is when it says "SAMSUNG" on the battery, while it's not produced by Samsung, when it says "NFC" on the battery, but there's no NFC chip inside it, and when it states battery capacity, and the battery capacity isn't even 1/2 of the stated.
By all these criteria, the cheap batteries are fake. They don't have NFC chip, they're not produced by Samsung, they're not even the same batteries - you can read on Skyrocket forums, I've dismantled a true Samsung battery vs fake one and compared, it's easy to spot the fake by touch - the real battery fills all the possible space it has, the fake battery has a plastic holder around a smaller battery that's made to look and fit larger space. Of course, physically smaller battery also means - crappy capacity, nowhere near the "official" claim.
If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too, until I got annoyed enough that my wife's phone can't live till the end of the day, found and bought $30 original Samsung battery. Night and day difference. And the original battery is still alive till today.
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I'm not sure of the reason for bootloops, but I'm quite sure it isn't NFC - because the fake cheap batteries don't have NFC either. The additional contact on the battery board is connected to nothing.
I always ran stock-derived ROMs on the phone (SHOStock mostly, but at some point - some other ROM I've ported from i9100), never had a problem running i9100 battery, both true and fake one.
If you can look at the logcat and pinpoint the failure that sends you into a bootloop - it might help.
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No problem, how can I look at the logcat?
Here, a dismantled fake battery with marking, suggesting that it's the same fake model that is used for i9100. I've examined it under a microscope to make sure, and even on the photo one can almost see it - the leftmost contact has a board lead left with vias, the middle board contacts have vias, the rightmost contact - the one for "NFC" - has neither vias nor board lead, it's just there for show, connected nowhere.
For logcat, just search the web. You need to enable ADB and have drivers in the PC, apps are not good - because you need log from the boot time. One guide, for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726238
There are many more. Search "how to use adb logcat".
Jack_R1 said:
If you prefer other terms, like "counterfeit" - I don't mind the term as long as it stresses the right thing: these batteries aren't built by Samsung, aren't built by anyone that builds for Samsung, aren't of any "official" descent and are crappy (which makes their "SAMSUNG" sticker fake, by the way), so anyone who expects them to match the original battery is heading for a big disappointment. And I used 2 of those too
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Good points, and good information; so by definition I should have said "counterfeit". Thanks for clarifying some things.
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zorak20 said:
The problems is that without NFC on the battery you cannot charge it...don't you have this problem?
Are you using a i777 or a i9100 battery? Which rom are you using?
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This is the one I'm using - 100% counterfeit but works fine. Does not support NFC but have never had any problems with it. It's cheap for a reason, as it's most definitely not 2200mAh (pretty much stock 1650mAh, or close to it), but it functions well enough for me.
@SteveMurphy
I just looked at the one you are using on ebay, it does not say anything about the battery cover for this 2200mAh. Does it same size as original that does not require new battery cover?
Thanks.
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@SteveMurphy
I just looked at the one you are using on ebay, it does not say anything about the battery cover for this 2200mAh. Does it same size as original that does not require new battery cover?
Thanks.
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It's the same size as stock, no need for another cover.

[Q] TS came dead, any way to make it work?

Hello guys,
my dad backed TS on kickstarter (probably) and then since it took so long for him to get his watch he bought galaxy gear instead so when it finally arrived it was just siting there unopened until few months later (now) when I found out and wanted to give it a spin. It didn't turn on.
It is 1GB ram model probably for Europe since 3g frequency is stated to be 2100MHz on the box
there is no response to either charging or pushing the power button, it is registered but not recognized when plug into a PC(no change on the watch itself)
I have tried nothing and I'm out of ideas I only tried to take the battery out for a bit and then putting it back in with no result
Any suggestions on how to make it work? Battery is dead? I read on the forum that the product is not very good but I would still love to give it a try.
replacement battery
ok so since nobody has a better idea I'm thinking that it is just that the battery is completely depleated. Is there a way to charge it outside of the watch? Or where can I buy new one?
Thanks, Andress
andress.cz said:
ok so since nobody has a better idea I'm thinking that it is just that the battery is completely depleated. Is there a way to charge it outside of the watch? Or where can I buy new one?
Thanks, Andress
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I am sorry. It appears that almost nobody is reading this forum anymore. I don't know how to help you, and nobody visits here to answer your or my question
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oh I realised that TS was shipped with a spare battery. You should have a second spare battery. If so, then you could try replacing a battery. Normally batteries are stored with 50% charge, because that's best for battery life. So it should have some charge, at least enough to start charging.
it didnt have the spare battery when it came
also in the mean time I checked with voltmeter and the battery is dead so do you know where to buy new one?
Try universal charger
It's quite a common problem with phone batteries not in use for a long time. I used universal charger "Ansmann Vario pro" to get them alive - few times with success. Not necessary this model - look for anyone with adjustable pins.

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