I know that Logitech F710 controller works with the Prime - but how about original Transformer? Does it work? I'd like to buy it because my next game will use controllers but would like to know if it works. Can you map all the keys however you like? Does every function work?
I considered the chance good enough to consider buying that controller, before deciding I'm to cheap. What works is likely to very by application, most are designed without hardware controls in mind. The Xperia Play stuff might be worth looking at, to see if it says anything about using controllers.
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Well, It's for writing games, not playing them, so I will be fine I suppose. I only wonder if it works on Transformer, but probably yes - it apparently works on all the other Tegra2 tablets.
OK. I bought some cheap controller similar to F710 - works fine in Sonic, partially in Sega emulator and Dizzy. Nothing less than I expected, now I'm looking for application to configure it and reading API how to add controller compatibility to my games.
Hi guys.
as christmas is approaching i need to give my wife an idea what to get me so i thought about a new gamepad controller for my new note 3.
i have read generally positive reviews regarding MOGA and can see they have just released their power versions but they are expensive.
i thought about using a ps3 controller but i havent yet rooted the note 3 and dont plan to for a few months at least.
any suggestions are welcome.
I have the Moga Pro, and I like it pretty well. It works pretty well out of the box, and works as a HID controller too. I got mine at BestBuy for $40 when they had them on sale/clearance.
Pros:
- Solid quality: Doesn't feel as good as an OEM Xbox controller, but easily as good as any third party console controller.
- Rechargeable: Doesn't need disposable batteries.
- The phone holder fits even my Note 3 in a case!
- Probably has the best compatibility of any controller.
- Pairing is easy.
- Decent (but not great) Dpad.
- Analog sticks are solid, though slightly higher resistance would be better.
Cons:
- Big and bulky: Can't really carry it in my purse -_-
- Doesn't fit a very thick case (my case has a SlingGrip on it, and that makes it too thick)
- Probably not folio case friendly.
Skip the moga and get the moga pro at minimum. The moga hero power is awesome too but probably well out of your wanted budget.
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I have a PS3, so I always use PS3 controllers with my Android devices. I just had to spend $20 on a GameKlip, $5 on a generic ebay case to tape to the GameKlip, then I was set! Makes it similar to playing the Nvidia Shield, except I have a .7" bigger display, 1080p instead of 720p, using a controller that I'm comfortable with and like the layout of, PLUS I can make phone calls and send texts with my setup!
If you like the button layout and already have a PS3 controller, then just get a GameKlip and cheap case. Since you're a member on XDA, I'm assuming you plan to root anyway. It really is a great setup! My Note 3 is the 3rd phone that I've used with this same GameKlip too, so it's very durable.
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PS3 a good option if you are a Root user, for sure. I've used it a lot over the last couple of years.
These days I'm just tending to use the Moga Pro (just ordered the new Power one), excellent if Root is not an option/not always an option.
cheers guys.
at some point i will root but not yet.
i saw they had released the moga power series. apart from size and design, are there any other differences between the hero power and pro power? such as compatibility differences, better/newer spec bluetooth on one or the other or anything like that. if not i wouldnt see much reason to spend the extra for the pro over the hero.
You should be good with the regular pro I think. The moga hero power is pretty good though but pricey. I don't see any reason to get the power pro unless you have money to blow and/or want the bigger battery. The 1800mah should be plenty in the moga hero. I say get the pro or wait for the hero to go on sale.
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Main advantage of the new Power one is that it can charge the phone from the controller while you play, which solves one of the major difficulties of on the go gaming on your phone.
Lol. The battery is much bigger in note3 than the 1800/2200mah batteries of the new power controllers. And they only output 460mah, maybe 500 not sure as I haven't checked. Maybe it worth it if you game heavily but then you probably run into dead controller.
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Grab a PS3 controller from Craigslist and use sixaxis app to config your settings.
K.0.0.L. said:
Grab a PS3 controller from Craigslist and use sixaxis app to config your settings.
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This really is best if you dont already own one, root de la vega takes less than 30 seconds seriously..and it doesnt even trip the knox counter.
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cheers guys and thanks for the help.
as mentioned though, for now at least, i wont be rooting. i'll wait 6 months until three uk's warranty period is over but also there may be root methods that are easier/wont effect flash counter/will work with the bootloader i'm now on that is apparently harder to root on (mj6).
the hero power did peak my interest and as long as it is the same internally to the pro apart from the battery size, i think i'd be happy with that.
any others worth noting at all?
thanks again.
marc.knuckle said:
cheers guys and thanks for the help.
as mentioned though, for now at least, i wont be rooting. i'll wait 6 months until three uk's warranty period is over but also there may be root methods that are easier/wont effect flash counter/will work with the bootloader i'm now on that is apparently harder to root on (mj6).
the hero power did peak my interest and as long as it is the same internally to the pro apart from the battery size, i think i'd be happy with that.
any others worth noting at all?
thanks again.
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i think you should get the regular pro or the hero power. i don't know battery size of the pro, and i don't think it's like regular moga with interchangeable which would've been preferable to me. the pro would be for the more serious gamer that needs better analog stick and something to grab. the hero power is for someone like me who used to be a hardcore gamer but is stuck in between casual and hardcore. do note that the hero power and power pro have two extra shoulder buttons and the analog stick have L3/R3 function which might be useful. and of course it's obvious the power pro has the serious analog sticks. really it comes down to price for you and you should be able to score the moga pro for $30-40 easily now. the hero power just came out and i'm sure it'll be a month or two before you see sub $50.
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i think you should get the regular pro or the hero power. i don't know battery size of the pro, and i don't think it's like regular moga with interchangeable which would've been preferable to me. the pro would be for the more serious gamer that needs better analog stick and something to grab. the hero power is for someone like me who used to be a hardcore gamer but is stuck in between casual and hardcore. do note that the hero power and power pro have two extra shoulder buttons and the analog stick have L3/R3 function which might be useful. and of course it's obvious the power pro has the serious analog sticks. really it comes down to price for you and you should be able to score the moga pro for $30-40 easily now. the hero power just came out and i'm sure it'll be a month or two before you see sub $50.
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btw, enjoying my hero power a lot. works great for rpg's. haven't played a fps yet, but i'm sure it'll "get by". mike tyson's punch is challenging with the buttons being close together but i've started to acclimate to it. things are geting better.
PS3 controller really is the best because its comfortable and loads more versatile.
The downside?
Its bulky. Not really pocketable... but is decent enough to throw in a purse, a bag, or just in your car.
But why stop there?
Get the Datel TurboFire 2. Its rare but worth it. Its basically a DualShock3 controller (works with PS3, Sixaxis App, and PC's... they think its a PS3 controller) but its bigger so its more comfortable. Its got some grippy contours (meh). And its got a Turbo function.
Basically those games/apps that require you to spam a certain button many times... you can cheat through them by just holding a button while the controller imitates a constant really fast button pushing. Since its larger than DS3, its a little more bulky.... but I love mine.
(especially when converting a sniper into an assault rifle on Battlefield or Call of Duty)
He doesnt want to root his phone so ps3 controller is out of the question. The ps3 is a good option but uses MINI not micro USB, is bulky, gotta pay for the sixaxis app, battery life is not as good as moga, doesnt support hid. The upside to it though is the awesome mapping profiles for touch only games. That can't be beat. I haven't looked but hoping to find an app that does similar mapping profiles with moga controllers.
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i sent an email to Moga to see when the hero power would be available in the uk and they said for now it was only the US.
now i dont know whether to wait or look elsewhere.
Hi there
Looking for a bit of advice on what gamepad to choose.
Apparently they'll both easily handle the Note 3, does anybody have good or bad experiences with either of them?
Alternatively, if anyone has any other gamepads they can suggest, please do!
I just got the hero power. It's good. Much better than original. It should suffice if you dont game seriously. If you plan on doing first person shooters or rely heavily on analog the pro power analog sticks look better and the controller is beefier. Or you could save a few bucks and get the original pro as that should suffice but lot of people say the buttons are too click loud. And with black Friday next week amd ps4 out already you should be able to score a good deal on a sixaxis controller and get the sixaxis controller app.
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I just got the hero power. It's good. Much better than original. It should suffice if you dont game seriously. If you plan on doing first person shooters or rely heavily on analog the pro power analog sticks look better and the controller is beefier. Or you could save a few bucks and get the original pro as that should suffice but lot of people say the buttons are too click loud. And with black Friday next week amd ps4 out already you should be able to score a good deal on a sixaxis controller and get the sixaxis controller app.
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I did consider the PS3 controller alright, must check it out!
Cheers, man!
When the Razer phone was announced I expected Razer to come up with their own controller case (like the controller for moto mods).
Since that was not the case, I was wondering what other options we have for the Razer phone...
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When the Razer phone was announced I expected Razer to come up with their own controller case (like the controller for moto mods).
Since that was not the case, I was wondering what other options we have for the Razer phone...
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might be worth a suggestion on razer's FB page i myself would love something like this
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I like this one:
CamRom® Telescopic Wireless Bluetooth Game Controller Gamepad Joystick for Samsung iPhone iPod iPad Android Phone Tablet PC CA1042ZR
Hit up fasttech.. They have many Bluetooth controller that will fit our phone and make it shaped like just about every handheld you can imagine.
I just purchased this about 2 weeks ago and it's been great so far, it connected instantly with no issues and worked out of the box with 99% of the emulators and games on my device without even messing with the button mapping. It has no lag that I can see, and has amazing battery life, I haven't charged it yet since I got and I've used it at least 4 hours each day. The phone fits in it perfectly with out a case, and even with the bulky case that I have on it now I can still squeeze it in and it holds securely. I'd recommend it if your looking for a controller.
Edit: apparently I'm not allowed to post links because I don't have more then 10 posts, but if you go to Amazon and search "Bounabay Wireless Telescopic Bluetooth Controller" it's the first result
Bit late on the reply but Razer do have an older Bluetooth mobile controller they made for their Forge TV, it's called the Razer Serval and from the looks of its images on Amazon UK it has a clip for mobiles. I know it won't be everyone's cup of tea if they prefer the actual case controller instead of a clip controller.
Hey everyone,
I've been looking at the Rog Phone 2 as a potential upgrade for awhile now, and am considering buying it on Giztop rather than waiting for a US release. I would like to get it with the Kunai Gamepad 2 (seems like a perfect gamepad for emulators and I really like joy-con style controllers) but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find the controller or if it's even been released yet? For those who may already have the Kunai Gamepad 2, how good is it compared to other attachable android controllers?
Caffeine Cup said:
Hey everyone,
I've been looking at the Rog Phone 2 as a potential upgrade for awhile now, and am considering buying it on Giztop rather than waiting for a US release. I would like to get it with the Kunai Gamepad 2 (seems like a perfect gamepad for emulators and I really like joy-con style controllers) but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find the controller or if it's even been released yet? For those who may already have the Kunai Gamepad 2, how good is it compared to other attachable android controllers?
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Not yet released bro. It comes out december 2019
Kunai gamempad, already available in China
Kunai gamepad it's already here. I've got only the version to attach it to the phone, since i don't need the adapter to use it as an independent Bluetooth controller.
It comes with the central bumper, the 2 joycons and 1 adapter from usbC to jack, in case you don't wanna use the fan but still wanna use the headset, since the default jack will be covered by the bumper.
It has some presets already for few games, and the rest are completely customizable. I'm still configuring it so I can't give an opinion yet. I can only post 1 picture from the phone.
If someone has any other question, let me know and I'll test whatever I can. View attachment 4851177
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Are there buttons on the back of the controller and do the sticks click in? Giving an L3 R3 option?
Giztop is now taking pre-orders as well
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Are there buttons on the back of the controller and do the sticks click in? Giving an L3 R3 option?
Giztop is now taking pre-orders as well
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Yes, besides the L1, L2, R1 and R2, there is also an M1 on the right hand, and M2 on the left hand, both on the rear side.
PD: looks like i can post more pictures now
Edit: forgot to say, yes, the sticks can click in, there is L3 and R3
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Very nice! Does it feel comfortable to hold in hand? And how is the deadzone recognizing on the right analog stick? Usually with these gamepads the right analog stick sucks for things such as aiming and whatnot. I liked how the black shark 2 had a touch pad but it was u comfortable to hold after awhile.
Giztop, Asus Singapore, and B&H here in the United States have been taking orders for a week. You can get it by the end of October or so. I do look forward to finally having it
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Very nice! Does it feel comfortable to hold in hand? And how is the deadzone recognizing on the right analog stick? Usually with these gamepads the right analog stick sucks for things such as aiming and whatnot. I liked how the black shark 2 had a touch pad but it was u comfortable to hold after awhile.
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Yeah, the right analog stick is not really useful... On shooter games, it still better to aim using the touchscreen. You can adjust the sensitivity on each game though. Left stick works great
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I'm that case do you have to have both controllers connected to use them or can you do it like the flydigi wasp?
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I'm that case do you have to have both controllers connected to use them or can you do it like the flydigi wasp?
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you dont need to use both. it come with a side protection for the bumpers in case you only want to use one side of the controller. The fact is that when the controller is pluffed, the touchscreen stills working, so it doesnt matter if you plug or not the right side of the controller, in shooter games you can still aim with the right joystick or with the touchscreen on the same time. if you remove that part, then only the touchscreen will work. Even air triggers still working on the same time if you want
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Kunai gamepad it's already here. I've got only the version to attach it to the phone, since i don't need the adapter to use it as an independent Bluetooth controller.
It comes with the central bumper, the 2 joycons and 1 adapter from usbC to jack, in case you don't wanna use the fan but still wanna use the headset, since the default jack will be covered by the bumper.
It has some presets already for few games, and the rest are completely customizable. I'm still configuring it so I can't give an opinion yet. I can only post 1 picture from the phone.
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looks cool! how was it? comfy when playing long hour of gaming session?
GAME ON said:
looks cool! how was it? comfy when playing long hour of gaming session?
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havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
rossonero777 said:
havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
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i see, thanks for ur kind response! gonna note that
How do you map the controller to basic games? Is there some kind of app or does game genie recognize the controller and you can go in there to remap the controller? Is the remap only applicable to games that support game pad or is it to any game? Reason I am asking is because I don't play pubg shooter game. I play generic games. Can you also use it as a basic Bluetooth controller?
Sorry for a lot of questions, these controllers are quote expensive and there is no return, so I have to make sure it serves my purpose.
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How do you map the controller to basic games? Is there some kind of app or does game genie recognize the controller and you can go in there to remap the controller? Is the remap only applicable to games that support game pad or is it to any game? Reason I am asking is because I don't play pubg shooter game. I play generic games. Can you also use it as a basic Bluetooth controller?
Sorry for a lot of questions, these controllers are quote expensive and there is no return, so I have to make sure it serves my purpose.
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It works in a similar way than Air triggers. Actually, exactly the same. when you open the game/app, swipe the game genie from the right side, and you will see a new icon there, called Kunai, just under the air trigger's icon. You press there, and then the whole screen will dim a bit, and there you will overlay the whole layout or the buttons that you need, on the app/game interface, an that set up will be saved for that game/app.
To use it as a bluetooth controller, I think you will need the central piece of the Kunai, which I don't have, because the inclusion of that piece made it to double the price. At least here in china, the options I saw were:
- Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
- Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right + central piece to attach Joycons and where I think the bluetooth connection is = 999 rmb
in my opinion, second option is a bit too much since i dont plan to use the Phone as a docked console, but if you do, it might be an option. the thing is that there is no power button or charging port on the kunai that I have, energy only comes through the usb when the kunai its attached to the phone, thats why I guess the central part (that i dont have) will contain the battery and the bluetooth feature, and somehow justify its price.
Thanks for the response, i pretty much got all the answers needed. Since i map/overlay the button layout, i am definetely getting one. I got the cheap Ipega Bluetooth controller, although it works but i can not find a way to change the layout.
In the US the option to buy the controller that i saw is: _ Gamepad, the Gamepad grip and the Kunai Bumper case = 150 usd (999rmb). I would think this is the second option you mentioned and they is no option for return. This is very expensive that is why i asked the questions. I plan on using the Bluetooth capability of the controller and may end up using it as an additional controller for my Nintendo Switch with the help of an adaptor hopefully it works.
So far do you like using it? is it comfortable enough?
Please share the name of the suppliers in China where i can get the - Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
Thanks
Excobar90 said:
Thanks for the response, i pretty much got all the answers needed. Since i map/overlay the button layout, i am definetely getting one. I got the cheap Ipega Bluetooth controller, although it works but i can not find a way to change the layout.
In the US the option to buy the controller that i saw is: _ Gamepad, the Gamepad grip and the Kunai Bumper case = 150 usd (999rmb). I would think this is the second option you mentioned and they is no option for return. This is very expensive that is why i asked the questions. I plan on using the Bluetooth capability of the controller and may end up using it as an additional controller for my Nintendo Switch with the help of an adaptor hopefully it works.
So far do you like using it? is it comfortable enough?
Please share the name of the suppliers in China where i can get the - Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
Thanks
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You are welcome. Well, i live in China and I've got it from Jingdong, kind of the "Chinese Amazon" let me post the link
https://item.m.jd.com/product/59276...are&utm_campaign=t_335139774&utm_term=CopyURL
Hope it works, but i don't think they deliver to any other country outside China. My Chinese is not good enough to check that
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rossonero777 said:
havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
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Is the right analog stick that slow on these games? I thought on buying it for COD mobile and some other rpg / mmo games, but the right stick is usually the aim one. If it's much slower it might be a deal breaker for me.. And that's a bummer =/
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Is the right analog stick that slow on these games? I thought on buying it for COD mobile and some other rpg / mmo games, but the right stick is usually the aim one. If it's much slower it might be a deal breaker for me.. And that's a bummer =/
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In my opinion, yes, the right stick sucks for aiming. Maybe it's me, you could give it a try. Good thing is, when the kunai is attached, it stills comfortable enough to aim using the touchscreen and shoot with the kunai trigger, Just ignoring the right joystick. I havent tried any rpg/mmo game yet. If you mention any, I will give it a try.
My mmo games are mostly lineage 2 and world of kings..
But I play more shooters games (well, COD actually..).
Have you tried playing with the sensitivity options in game?
Ot is it a lag issue?
If it's a lag issue I won't buy it probably =/