I'm well aware of the Z2 specs, have read reviews, etc. But I want to hear from you guys, real world users. How are you liking your Z2? Is it awesome? Is it frustrating?
Opinions from real users that I'd love to hear about:
-Battery life
-Lag
-Sound quality (talking/mic/ringer, etc.)
-Is overheating really an issue?(I heard it was with 4k recording, which I probably won't do much of)
-Quirks, things that bug/annoy you about it. General problems that may be common in this phone.
Is this a phone that you "have to" root in order to make it more "usable", or is it pretty good out of the box?
What I like about the the Z2:
+current prices (can be had for around $400)
+good camera (on paper at least, please correct me if I'm wrong)
+screen size and resolution
+expandable memory
What i mainly don't like:
-sony seems to be slow on releasing updates
-no user replaceable battery(I know, where there's a will, there's a way, but still, it's nice to have that sometimes).
I'm trying to decide between this or a LG G pro 2.... both have expandable memory(a must for me) via microsdhc, a 1080p 5"+ screen(very preferable for me), with a decent camera(at least on paper), the real selling point is that the Z2 is cheaper with a slightly faster processor, otherwise, specs are relative similar to me as far as I'm concerned... I just want to know "real world" opinions... because everything may be great on paper, but the device could be a frustrating experience when beheld and used everyday.
Thanks!
Z2 -
The device was certainly worth the money i spent on it
1. Great battery
2. Barely any lags under normal use
3. Amazing camera quality (near SLR/DSLR in macro shots)
4. Very useful to have micro sdcard slot
Updates are fast as can be (xperia Z2 took forever to get 4.4.4 but all other xperias got it very quickly)
Xperia Z2 on 4.4.4 is certainly worth it. Its literely a Cheaper Z3 with slightly lesser quality.
It still has the potential (with root) to out perform the Z3
I wouldn't be able to tell you how much I like this device, specially after the last update.
Battery life is great, even without using Stamina mode which is very usefull.
UI is beautifull and really smooth. I really like the display.
I haven't had a problem with Z2 so far.
I think this device is pretty awesome out of the box.
Hi,
After 4 years of only HTC, I have decided to get the Z2.
I have it from one month (bought it new)
Pros:
- The phone, looks awesome, my opinion the speakers are more beautiful from Z3
- Camera is amazing
- Battery Life amazing, got and 4 days of normal use, (speaking at least 1 hour per day)
- it is the fastest phone I have used, very fast in the UI
- more
Cons:
- Very frustrating, very, very, very! bad sound, all my friend told me that they hear me very noisy, very bad, echoes..etc - using headset, amazing audio quality.
- after update to 4.4.4 every time I put my phone at ear to speak I find that quick setting drop down and activating/deactivating features form quick setting, even airplane mode and close the call
- very hard to upgrade to.. it took me about one day, tried many times.. to get the upgrade to 4.4.4, very much errors...
- very slippery, slipped from my pocket, fall down and get scratched.. very easy to scratch
If I have to chose again I would still get HTC, The One M8. I would be chose the bad camera, low battery life, but have a good call quality, most important feature of a phone.
Once again, it's my opinion and maybe I got "lucky" and I have got a bad one..
Best regards, and chose widely
Came from a rooted galaxy s3 about a month ago; which I still think is one of the best phones out there....but.....
The Z2 is very impressive, the battery life is extremely impressive and with normal (light) use I can get over 2 days out of it. The camera is amazing as is the 4k recording; but it does shutdown due to overheating at 4k after about 15 mins.
I have not experienced any lag whatsoever with the phone and it's as smooth as butter.
Some of the Sony apps get annoying with there constant toast messages but you can disable them.
One of the reasons I used to root phone was to use Titanium to back up all my apps and data; but the sony has it's own app for that; so I did root the phone originally; but have gone back to stock (mainly to get the last update)
It is a fingerprint magnet so cover and screen guard a must.
I have heard stories about the magnetic charging port coming off the phone, but I don't use it.
I have no issues with call quality at all even over hangouts, viber or Skype video. Think the echo experienced by other uses is phone specific as my wifes Sony M has echo but my sons doesn't.
For me the audio is so low and terrible, it seems to be a software problem and not a hardware problem but sony wont fix it, in call volume i can never hear
I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
I have had multiple android phones latest was the note 3 which i swapped for the Z2
Spec wise the z2 is amazing
Cosmetically phone looks very very nice slick smooth overall looks the part. However it is the most slippery phone in the world if you try to sit this phone on your legs while sitting down for example forget about it its off in milliseconds
functionality wise not so much
While it does play anything you throw at it with ease games apps media etc.
Battery life is second to none best battery life and on screen time of any phone ive ever had
However the poor poor poor audio notification system is a big big downfall
Unless you physically have this phone in your hand you wont know its ringing or if you received a notification (unless you root and add mods which then don't fix the notification problem) Sony are not only aware of this problem they refuse to fix it or acknowledge that there is even an problem to fix and have even added the same problem onto the Z3
The waterproofing its sceptical as the so called protective flaps on the charger port at least randomly open so therefore leaves the phone vulnerable to water damage
The screen while looks stunning when watching HD clips or playing games in certain light you can clearly see all the Digitizer touch sensors (tiny dots) on the screen more so in good light watching something dark on your phone to me this is a major annoyance
Boasts a 20.7mp camera only while using manual controls (Not something the average user can or will ever do) In auto mode which almost everyone will use its limited to 8mp (Again unless you root and use a mod)
The features of the camera are absolutely brilliant timeshift,4K,AR effects etc. and many many more
Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.(this obviously if you plan to root and unlock phone but lets face it your on xda so clearly thats the plan)
The development for this device is not so great (Respect to all the devs actively working on the device) not a great selection of roms mods etc. as you would see on other flagship devices
For me i would say no this is the first and the last Sony phone i will purchase
Given the choice i would trade back for my galaxy note 3 in a heartbeat
No doubt people will disagree but this is just my honest experience with the phone to date
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
manemzjum said:
Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.
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Certain pre-loaded content on your device may also be inaccessible due to the removal of DRM security keys. For high-end devices running recent software versions, for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible, and you will not be able to get any more official software upgrades if you unlock the boot loader.
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Then the FAQ
If I change my mind later on, is there any way to restore my device?
No. Once you have unlocked the boot loader, you will not be able to revert the device back to a locked or original state or restore the DRM security*keys. You can however use the*Flash tool for Xperia™ devices*to flash a generic Sony ROM, although it will not receive automatic software upgrades.
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If the screen size doesn't matter for you, I would choose the lg. I've already had g2 and they have the multi window feature like in Samsung (of course after installing a proper rom). About xperia z2 itself, yes, I would buy it one more time, however htc one m8 had much better os. The battery life here is just awesome, I think only droid turbo could beat sony. I didn't use stock rom, but flashing dixperia made it finally almost lagfree device. The small apps are completely unusable for me. Camera, hmm the amount of megapixels is able to make the photos really good, however when I've compared 8mpx picture from z2 and 4mpx from one m8, the htc definitely wins it in matter of quality. The screen is good and readable in the sun and it doesn't catch so many fingerprints on the screen, however it's a bit more reflective than on htc, so you may find it annoying when watching a movie and seeing a reflection of a chandelier on the screen. Although it has 3gb of ram, the sony os kills more often the background apps than htc. There's one important thing about these devices. I've had two xperia z1 and now z2, and each of them has some hardware mulfunction, so be prepared that may be forced to use the warranty. In z2 I have a problem with mini jack as it sometimes doesn't detect headphones in it.
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
Sony website
Then the FAQ
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This is why the z2 will be the only Sony phone I ever own, we should not be penalised or lose features for doing what we want with our own devices! I'm really hoping Ara takes off in a big way as that is the kind of freedom that we need and should make the likes of Sony realise the mistakes they are making
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
Sony website
Then the FAQ
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Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
On the other note it is possible to backup you TA folder prior to unlocking your bootloader (with root access)
So you WILL be able to restore to stock at a later date and relock your bootloader
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manemzjum said:
Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
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No I didn't go searching, I remember reading it when I unlocked my bootloader. You must of missed it.
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I was torn between this and the LG G3, it was the phenomenal battery life of this that finally swung it.
Cons : OK, it's too big. For me the hot spot is about 4.7" I think it's a little big to comfortably fit in my pocket.
Pros : where to start, it's truly a brilliant device in almost all ways, battery life is brilliant (7 hours sot is achievable), camera fantastic.
Certainly given the choice I'd buy either the Z2 or maybe Z2 mini at the drop of a hat.
yep definitely awesome phone
Yeah my previous phones were all HTC, and I think I will stick with Sony for a while.
For me the best thing of the xperia z2 is that you can get one of the most awesomes phones for only $400, last time I spent $650 on my HTC One and I don't think it was worth it as it devaluated really quickly. The other great pros of the Z2 is the 3200mah battery and the fact that is waterproof is the feature that makes it different from all the other phones
pacific808 said:
I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
pacific808 said:
I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
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Gotcha, I guess I can get used to the volume not being as loud... afterall, I've been using a Nokia E72 for quite a while and the ear speaker or speaker phone volume is below par when compared to most smartphones I've listened to.
THat sounds a bit frustrating that the proximity sensor will trigger and random settings will change while using your phone on your ears.
I also wanted to thank all input, from everyone, really helped me out a lot.
I'm straying away from the G pro 2 now, the price is holding high for that device and the community here seems to be more active.
One more question, do you guys know if the Xperia Z2 has a stylus note taking app from Sony? I believe I saw a video of the Z ultra having an app from Sony that would let you take free style notes with a stylus, looked handy, I was wondering if that app could be had on the Z2 as well.
Yeah but I only notice the issue when I have my hair between the phone and my ear. Never happened while my hair was cut short.
As far as taking notes I am not sure if the sony app can be ported to the z2 but I do know evernote can do handwritten notes. You would just need to get a stylus that works for the z2.
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Got my new Sony Xperia Z Ultra two days ago (Aug 5) in Mumbai, India. It was in some Sony shops last week, but I waited for regular stores, where prices are a bit lower. It was supposed to come with a "free premium cover" but the cover was not yet with the store and I was asked to come back in a few days and claim it.
First impressions are:
1. It is a BIG phone. My earlier Samsung Galaxy Note (the first one) looks positively small next to it.
2. It is thin, and the width is narrow enough so that it can be held in one hand. The weight is well distributed and feels good. At the moment I cannot imagine using this to answer calls, but then back in 2011 I felt the same about the Note. I suppose with more phones like the Mega, the rumored HTC One Max, etc. it will become common to see people with these ultra large devices to the ear.
3. The screen is beautiful. I was one of the early sceptics about the Xperia Z's washed out looks. I saw the Z in store with the new 4.2.2 firmware and it looks better, but the Z Ultra blows it away. Some fonts like in Google Play look dull on the Z Ultra screen, I am not sure why. Regular text including while browsing are very crisp indeed. Colors are very nice. No washout even from off center, though with a smartphone I would likely be looking at the screen dead-on.
4. I have had only 1 battery charge, so it is early days. And since my existing SIM card is a full size one, I am waiting for a new micro-SIM. So I have had an alternate SIM and haven't really tried phone calls (except a couple of test calls). Mostly on standby with a few hours installing apps etc., the battery was down to 30% after 24 hours. Only the gmail app was fully configured. I am not sure how the battery will perform when properly put to use (calls, whatsapp, etc.).
5. Audio appears clear. The speaker (ringer for example) volume is low compared to the Note.
6. The camera is poor. I hope this is fixed in a firmware update. Indoor pics are very noisy and low detail. I tried taking pictures with Perfectly Clear and other Play Store camera apps and it is the same across - very poor low light ability.
7. I am not too fussed about the lack of flash. On the Note the flash did more duty as a flashlight rather than a camera flash.
Overall I am pretty happy with the phone. I will update more info as I get some use out of the phone.
It's possible to convert a normal SIM to a micro SIM. There are plenty of "tutorials" out there on the interwebz. You'll need a sharp knife or scissors. Not sure if it's worth it if you'll get the new one in the next couple of days though.
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I know that I can cut the sim card but my card is apparently too old for that
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Quick update on battery. As you can see with minimal use this battery really lasts. Real world tests await.
Not sure if the screen shot gets uploaded
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If you have time could you do a video loop test and let us know how many hours it can do that along with brightness and other settings that are on?
zergslayer69 said:
If you have time could you do a video loop test and let us know how many hours it can do that along with brightness and other settings that are on?
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All good.. always had Samsung prior. Sony doesn't make it easy lol.
Hey,
I was consider to get the HTC One M8 but then I came across the Sony Xperia Z2. I was looking at the feature set of both. I went and got a feel of both the devices. My only real concern that came about would be the development aspect of the Z2. I love to tweak around with my phones.
The other issue that hit me is the speakers on the Z2. I havent had a chance to play with the Z2 in the sound department but I did have a chance with the HTC One M8. Does the speakers feel good to listen to?
Any thoughts would be helpful
Well opinion wise on the Z2 , the speakers arent perfect but thats because of the fact the phone is waterproof, everything else is amazing
Development has started slow for Z2 alike most xperias, give it a couple months for it too speed up, we already have official CM11 and TWRP, there should be more to come
And not to mention all mods for 4.4 will most likely work on other xperias
(this does disinclude kernels and roms)
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I have both devices i think that the M8 is better in design and the sound quality is better both speakers and earplugs wise.
The camera on the Z2 is waaaaaaayyy better then the M8 and i personally think that the system ui is better as well i am not a fan of sense it just to heavy.
And custom development always takes a tad longer on sony devices. I've had both devices and i'm still not sure which one is better .....:silly:
i have z2 and love it. Overall i feel m8 is great but z2 has a slight edge in all departments other than sound. Sound is awesome on z2 but m8 is better.
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If you want a single device for all your needs go for Z2.
Want only a smartphone and have a separate professional camera? Go for M8.
Here's a comparison video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKCgqeVdZ3w
Well as far as I see. The sony xperia has a pretty gud feature set. I know the development is a wee bit slow. But considering the fact, I think I just might go for the Z2.
I haven't got a chance to play with M8 but I have had M7 for 5 days before I decided to sell it and married Sony Z2.
Originally, I came from Apple 5s and to be honest the camera on HTC One M7 was horrible. I went out for a persimmon picking trip and I took my brandnew HTC M7 for photo shooting and I was shocked by the photo quality, blueish, dark, blrury and incorrect colour. Even my gf was shocked with my new toy's camera performance. Overall HTC was a good phone, sleek design, study and iron cold feeling, nice and sharp screen and beautiful UI. But after I sold my HTC M7 and bought the Sony Z2 and I must say it is one of the best phone I have even owned. Fast, beautiful scree large screen, simpe UI and super long lasting battery. I am a heavy user and apple 5s could not keep up with me as long as Sony Z2. Anyway, from Apply 5S -> HTC M7 -> Sony Z2, I am really happy to stay with Sony for a long time. And it is my first Sony device I have ever used since I was born ...lol
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
valdigre said:
Hey all, I have the same dillema.
I have just sold my Note 3 and want something smaller and with a capable camera, very good sound quality on speakerphone while on skype and normal calls.
In the last aspect my previous HTC M7 was the best however it's camera was unacceptable, especially in very bright sun light...
To be honest I don't know why I am even considering the M8 because of the camera, but I guess I have the sentiment for the previous one.
Anyway, my biggest concern with Z2 is overheating. I went to Vodafone shop and turned on the Camera app to see how the phone behaves. Within 1-2 minutes it got noticably warm, just because the screen and app was on...
How widespread do you think the overheating problem is? Logically speaking, if something is sealed very well for water not getting in, than it must be not so great with heat dissapation... Unless it is made of aluminum...
I don't want a camera phone having a camera which I cannot use because of overheating...
Also, is it difficult to flash stock firmware over branded one, with sim lock present? Does the phone need to be unlocked?
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The one you tried in vodafone store was probably on for whole day i.e., screen, speaker, demo... therefore it was already hot prior your camera shooting trial. I have no problem with my device. Trust me HTC M7 heat problem is a lot worse due to its metal case. Sony used combine materials including plastic, glass and aluminum therefore heat is not as bad as metal housing in general.
Worst case scenario, it is waterproof so just give it a shower, will help to reduce heat issue
Feels like I might just get the Z2. Ijust have the issue of the dev community for the device. Since its a new device, I have a feeling that the dev community will be strong but that we shall see.
Plus me getting the Z2 depends on my stupid carrier keeping it in stock xD. They released the device here and with 2 days all the carriers ran out of stock. So lets hope I get my hands one xD
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
valdigre said:
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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Camera is set to shutdown at 65c cpu temp, which is nothing in todays technology. So no, it wont affect battery or something else. Also what do you expect, you make 4k recording, turn temperatures to hell and then take pictures, outcome clear to me. If you start by taking pictures that wont happen. And m8 is not a factor here, its probably imposible to make any smartphone overheat by taking 4mpixel photos lol.
valdigre said:
I think I answered this question to myself...
Until Sony fixes the overheating problem (provided it can be addressed through software and it is not the hardware at fault), I will not get this phone.
I went to Vodafone Ireland store close by and put the phone to test. I started the camera app and launched 4k video and left it going, while I was playing with HTC M8 and Galaxy S5 (ugly phone and the same design all over again...)...
Well, after around 5 minutes I got the overheating message... Keep in mind when I started playing with the phone it was cold (no one playing with it, screen off)... The temperature now is around 20-22 idle.
Ok, I thought, It can be forgiven as I do not give a damn about 4k... So after it crashed and took me to the screen, I opened photo app again and managed to take 4 pictures before I got the message again and when the app force closed... After 10 seconds I did the same and the same story...
All I managed was to laugh out loud, while playing with the HTC camera and having its chasis still cold, and I just left the store...
Those temperatures cannot be good for any internals inside, especially the battery. I can bet Z2 users will have their batteries deteriorated significantly by the end of this year, if they use it as GPS nav, gaming devices or... Just as a camera...
RIDICULOUS... But I guess I will be tracking the forums and see if any of the firmwares fixes the problem, if not, I will wait patiently for Q3 phones this year as there is nothing that ticks my boxes at the moment.
Thanks.
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No offence here but really you buy a smartphone just to shoot 4K?
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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vipaman said:
So I just got my z2. YAY!!!!
Sad part is that I didn't get the noise cancelling ear buds. #WelcomeToTheMiddleEast
On the other hand. I just love the feel of the device. It just feels right. The aluminum and glass feel just perfect. It's feels a bit more premium than the M8 imo.
Problems. The device heats up. But tbh I live in a hot country so it really doesn't matter XD. The heat is more towards the top part and the device just heated up when I cranked the brightness high and started recording 4k video(Which I doubt I shall ever use in the near future)
Now all I got to do is get a case and a screen protector so that I don't destroy it in my rough daily use
Hope my short review helped anyone
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Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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Can you do a test for me, please?
Could you actively use the phone for a while (say 3g browsing or wifi) so that it becomes warm at the back, and once it gets warm, can you open the camera app and try to record 3-5 minute hd video or take at least 10 pictures in the row?
I am wondering if you get the warning message.
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
Hope I helped you out.
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I just sold my M8 and ordered the Z2, I'm excited, I hope it was worth it!
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I was inclined to the M8 in the beginning but now I feel this device is better in terms of hardware as compared to Sony.
Development is real slow but thats expect from Sony devices. As far as stock goes, Its not bad but can definitely be improved. Sony actually did a really amazing job with the software.
Believe me you will love the Z2
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Okay so I tried that. And nothing much happened. It just got a bit hot. like it wasnt that hot. Keep in mind I tried this indoors when the air-conditioning was on was thats something.
I live in a hot country where temperatures can reach 40+ Celsius or 100+ Fahrenheit but still I dont find the phone to be that hot. It does become hot ever so slightly but thats expected.
Hope I helped you out.
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That is the thing, the phone is not expected to get hot when doing not so really intensive tasks like browsing, downloading, or recording hd video/taking pictures... I had Galaxy S 1, 2, HTC One, Note 3, played with M8, Galaxy S5 and those phones only get "warm" when sat nav or comparable heavy task...
If your phone gets very warm at home with AC on, than what do you expect will happen when you try to use it outside at 35 degrees in your country?
Nothing like this would happen with any other competition's phone, seriously... It must be a design flaw, those problems were present with previous Z's as well if my memory serves me right.
No, I don't care about 4k video recording, I would survive this overheating problem if the phone overheated only in this case, but overheating when taking pictures after doing some light intensive tasks? Unacceptable...
I am pretty certain it can survive for a long time. The thing that gets hot is the glass not the metal frame. And when it's hot it's not hot as in u touch and u r gonna burn yourself.
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Hey guys, I love the xperia z2. Absolutely brilliant phone. But I have, unfortunately had problems ( just like I did with my z ultra )
So I decided to buy a one plus one, I'll still keep my z2 for sure and decide which is better suited for me
Has anyone else thought about getting the opo yet?
J
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Hey guys, I love the xperia z2. Absolutely brilliant phone. But I have, unfortunately had problems ( just like I did with my z ultra )
So I decided to buy a one plus one, I'll still keep my z2 for sure and decide which is better suited for me
Has anyone else thought about getting the opo yet?
J
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oppo are in the middle, arent amazing, but arent terrible
dont have huge flaws nor pros
unlike xperias with their damn heating issues or manufacturing
one+one as far as ive experianced are flawless
In pretty excited to get it to be honest. The camera looks amazing and they said that when android L comes out they'll have a stable version for the opo within 90 unlike Sony who don't say anything
J
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In pretty excited to get it to be honest. The camera looks amazing and they said that when android L comes out they'll have a stable version for the opo within 90 unlike Sony who don't say anything
J
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There are a lot of problems with the OPO. I have already purchased 5 of them, and I don't have one left.
-All 5 had a terrible yellow band at the bottom of the screen.
-Half of them had touchscreen problems (something to do with poor grounding, so when placed on a conductive material the phones touchscreen malfunctions).
-A couple of them came with chipped and nicked bezels.
-All of them had extremely low call volume with both earpiece and speakerphone
-Back Sandstone cover inconsistent between devices, scratches and chips so easily.
Regarding the 90 update policy: Please keep in mind they are running CyanogenMod, which you can run on your Z2, and which will likely be out with Android L sooner than 90 days. You can't compare a CyanogenMod ROM release to an Xperia ROM release.
Be careful because I tried to RMA all of my devices for one or more of the problems listed above, and it took near two weeks to even get a reply. After another week of dialogue they declined all of my RMA's. I have since sold the phones at a loss and I will never deal with them again.
I can safely say that the camera on the Z2 is far superior to the OPO's from the pictures I've take with both devices.
Lastly, there are two speakers on the OPO like most modern phones, however their speakers are MONO and not STEREO.
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oppo are in the middle, arent amazing, but arent terrible
dont have huge flaws nor pros
unlike xperias with their damn heating issues or manufacturing
one+one as far as ive experianced are flawless
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Before I got z2 I read all this heating issue about z2, I don't know if I got a real good z2 or what but I have no heating issues everyone is crying about sure if I do more intense things I get a little warmer but all phones do and as soon as a stop phone is normal again.
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Before I got z2 I read all this heating issue about z2, I don't know if I got a real good z2 or what but I have no heating issues everyone is crying about sure if I do more intense things I get a little warmer but all phones do and as soon as a stop phone is normal again.
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Z2 and few months after release all manufactured Z2s had a finger burning heating issue
newwer ones have almost no such thing
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There are a lot of problems with the OPO. I have already purchased 5 of them, and I don't have one left.
-All 5 had a terrible yellow band at the bottom of the screen.
-Half of them had touchscreen problems (something to do with poor grounding, so when placed on a conductive material the phones touchscreen malfunctions).
-A couple of them came with chipped and nicked bezels.
-All of them had extremely low call volume with both earpiece and speakerphone
-Back Sandstone cover inconsistent between devices, scratches and chips so easily.
Regarding the 90 update policy: Please keep in mind they are running CyanogenMod, which you can run on your Z2, and which will likely be out with Android L sooner than 90 days. You can't compare a CyanogenMod ROM release to an Xperia ROM release.
Be careful because I tried to RMA all of my devices for one or more of the problems listed above, and it took near two weeks to even get a reply. After another week of dialogue they declined all of my RMA's. I have since sold the phones at a loss and I will never deal with them again.
I can safely say that the camera on the Z2 is far superior to the OPO's from the pictures I've take with both devices.
Lastly, there are two speakers on the OPO like most modern phones, however their speakers are MONO and not STEREO.
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Wow, bro. Whomever comes to me and says One Plus One is the best smartphone so far, I'll show them this post. I was starting to think if this One Plus One is better than my beloved Sony Xperia Z2, aswell. Now after reading this post, I'm relieved.
And yeah, they're using CyanogedMod, we're using our own awesome ROM specially engineered by Sony. So this means when our Android L version comes out, it'll surely beat the hell out of their Android L version ROM.
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Wow, bro. Whomever comes to me and says One Plus One is the best smartphone so far, I'll show them this post. I was starting to think if this One Plus One is better than my beloved Sony Xperia Z2, aswell. Now after reading this post, I'm relieved.
And yeah, they're using CyanogedMod, we're using our own awesome ROM specially engineered by Sony. So this means when our Android L version comes out, it'll surely beat the hell out of their Android L version ROM.
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Yeah do some research before you buy it, the moderators on the OP forum are doing their best to bury the "problem" threads. It's sad, I posted multiple threads to create awareness about the problems with my phones, and I was banned from the forum for "spreading conspiracy"!
A co-worker of mine just sold off his OPO and stuck with his Samsung phone instead
The Back sandstone cover or whatever it's referred to is definitely a turn-off on that phone. It already had slight wear/chipping on the corners from being placed in the packaging- a big indication that the back will wear out over time and look awful without a case. Before even powering it on, he opted to sell it off and get his money back.
Have no issues with my Z2 here, overheating or build quality
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A co-worker of mine just sold off his OPO and stuck with his Samsung phone instead
The Back sandstone cover or whatever it's referred to is definitely a turn-off on that phone. It already had slight wear/chipping on the corners from being placed in the packaging- a big indication that the back will wear out over time and look awful without a case. Before even powering it on, he opted to sell it off and get his money back.
Have no issues with my Z2 here, overheating or build quality
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My Z2 has been fantastic thus far as well. I tried five times with five brand new OPO's and was completely unsatisfied every time.
I got both and I dunno what you guys are on about?
I got a find 7a aside from my z2. The find 7a in my country comes with a carbon fiber back plate. The phone feels rock solid, there are no chips or dings and the screen is brilliant! Personally I use the OPPO more than my Z2.one awesome phone
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There are a lot of problems with the OPO. I have already purchased 5 of them, and I don't have one left.
-All 5 had a terrible yellow band at the bottom of the screen.
-Half of them had touchscreen problems (something to do with poor grounding, so when placed on a conductive material the phones touchscreen malfunctions).
-A couple of them came with chipped and nicked bezels.
-All of them had extremely low call volume with both earpiece and speakerphone
-Back Sandstone cover inconsistent between devices, scratches and chips so easily.
Regarding the 90 update policy: Please keep in mind they are running CyanogenMod, which you can run on your Z2, and which will likely be out with Android L sooner than 90 days. You can't compare a CyanogenMod ROM release to an Xperia ROM release.
Be careful because I tried to RMA all of my devices for one or more of the problems listed above, and it took near two weeks to even get a reply. After another week of dialogue they declined all of my RMA's. I have since sold the phones at a loss and I will never deal with them again.
I can safely say that the camera on the Z2 is far superior to the OPO's from the pictures I've take with both devices.
Lastly, there are two speakers on the OPO like most modern phones, however their speakers are MONO and not STEREO.
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I've had 5 Opo's to date and still have one, the rest were gifts to others. I have had no issues that required RMA. Yellowing issue at bottom of the screen: not everyone phone has and has been resolved with updates. Low call volume: until recently, has been an issue with every official CM ROM. Recent software updates have cured this. Touchscreen issues: again, not on everyone and they have been remedied as well. In all of the Opo's I have owned the back cover has been the same, I have not had a problem with that. Why would someone want an Opo over a Z2? Easy, $$$. The Opo costs $363 brand new, shipped. Considerably less than an also brand new Z2. Also, thee customization options are what make the Opo amazing. The camera is indeed better on the Z2, appreciably so. However, again, with recent software updates the Opo's camera is very good and certainly capable of meeting and exceeding most peoples needs. I own both phones and don't have a favorite necessarily because while I can say the Z2 is the better overall phone I do know it's 1. subjective and 2. comes at a substantial cost increase over the Opo. Every manufacturer ships phones worthy of RMA repairs, but Opo is the only company smart/dumb enough to create a forum before the phone was even out giving people time to fester, stew over and discuss said issues after waiting weeks for their phone.
I own a OnePlus. It's sitting beside me collecting dust. It's garbage. Cheap hardware, covered up by cm work arounds to create an Illusion of a high end device. Too many bugs, horrible customer service, and no transparency from the company. They lie, and mislead their customers. They bury any sort of negativity in their forums regardless of validity. I will never buy any OnePlus phone ever. I'm just lucky I won this piece of crap sitting beside me instead of investing any money into it. That company will most likely fail anyways.
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I haven't had the chance to try the one plus one, but when it first came out I was really pumped! But now that I got the Z2, I haven't thought about it twice. But I am trying to figure out if I'm having a problem or not with my device... The sound in call sounds tinny and noisy... But not via loudspeaker. Only in call via the internal speaker... Hopefully I can fix it. Other than that, what a wonderful phone
I purchased a One plus one and had quality issues as well. I didn't have the yellow banding along the bottom but definitely nicks on the chrome bezel....made it look really cheap. The phone would become unresponsive all the time. The accelerometer was buggy and wouldn't switch from landscape to portrait without a little extra shaking. Just not to my liking. Customer support was ****e so I sold the phone on craigslist for a profit and purchased another one. Same niggling issues so I sold that one to another eager buyer for another tiny profit and decided that if I was getting bored of my Z2 I should just switch colors....so now I own a white one and love it all over again, lol.
really torn between these two devices ,
am talking about AOSP or CM on z5c , is AOSP working well on it ?
the 5x display is not that great , is the z5c display any better ?
any suggestion is appreciated .
I have just been evaluating the two side my side for the past fortnight trying to decide which to keep.
Hightlights of the z5c have been its size, speaker quality, and overall build quality. Micro SD slot is handy and waterproofness is nice to have. However I have found the camera to be very disappointing and slow to use and the results average. Also the smaller screen size can make operating Xperia keyboard and text input frustrating at times.. I dont htink the screen is as good as the one the Nexus but maybe thats just me. Excellent battery life. I have only tried Sony factory ROM and was not aware that others such as CM are available yet?
Highights of the Nexus 5x have been the crisp clean Marshmallow interface, good screen and excellent point and shoot camera. Screen is not as repsonsive as x5c when it needs to dim in a dark environment. It has a Terrific keyboard that is really accurate and easy to use. along with best fingerprint reader I have used. Downsides to it are its plasticy design with protruding lens which makes me reluctant to put it down on its back on a desk. even though I know the lens will not contact the desk. A Google Adopted TPU case fixed this though. But as soon as you encase it no-one will have any idea it is a google phone. Speaker is crappy and poor sound quality compered to z5c. USB C power cables are orphans and mean you cannot use existing A cables existing devices most people have. Couple this with a mediocre battery life can be problematic. Biggest downside for me though is its size. Too big too put into from jeans pocket and protrudes an inch or so out the top of shirt pocket.
So I ended up selling my 5x and keeping the z5c. My hope is that Sony will do something in the marshmallow update to improve the point and shoot usabilty of the camera. Hope this helps.
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I have just been evaluating the two side my side for the past fortnight trying to decide which to keep.
Hightlights of the z5c have been its size, speaker quality, and overall build quality. Micro SD slot is handy and waterproofness is nice to have. However I have found the camera to be very disappointing and slow to use and the results average. Also the smaller screen size can make operating Xperia keyboard and text input frustrating at times.. I dont htink the screen is as good as the one the Nexus but maybe thats just me. Excellent battery life. I have only tried Sony factory ROM and was not aware that others such as CM are available yet?
Highights of the Nexus 5x have been the crisp clean Marshmallow interface, good screen and excellent point and shoot camera. Screen is not as repsonsive as x5c when it needs to dim in a dark environment. It has a Terrific keyboard that is really accurate and easy to use. along with best fingerprint reader I have used. Downsides to it are its plasticy design with protruding lens which makes me reluctant to put it down on its back on a desk. even though I know the lens will not contact the desk. A Google Adopted TPU case fixed this though. But as soon as you encase it no-one will have any idea it is a google phone. Speaker is crappy and poor sound quality compered to z5c. USB C power cables are orphans and mean you cannot use existing A cables existing devices most people have. Couple this with a mediocre battery life can be problematic. Biggest downside for me though is its size. Too big too put into from jeans pocket and protrudes an inch or so out the top of shirt pocket.
So I ended up selling my 5x and keeping the z5c. My hope is that Sony will do something in the marshmallow update to improve the point and shoot usabilty of the camera. Hope this helps.
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thanks a lot , very helpful ,
and yes there is an AOSP 5.1.1 rom available for the z5c , no CM yet ( can't imagine it will be long before a release , given sony has released the binaries ) ,
here you go :
http://fxpblog.co/aosp/aosp-5-1/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/orig-development/aosp-builds-z5c-t3226266
I haven't tested the 5x yet, but have the z5c for about two weeks now and in my opinion there are two main issues with the z5c:
First the display colors really seem to be washed out, the black is more a really dark grey than a black (I don't know if this is due to a defect screen or if this is the case for all z5c's), also the display resolution of 720p isn't really enough for me as I clearly can see the edges of round app icons for example even when I'm farther away from the screen.
Also the increase of the phone temperature during prolonged use really bothers me, but that's a known issue of the Snapdragon 810. The camera is just okay, I honestly expected more, especially in low light conditions. But as far as is understand this is rather a post-processing issue than an hardware issue, I hope this improves with Marshmallow.
Two plus points are good battery live (maybe also due to the relatively low res screen) and the overall speed of the phone, which really has improved since the last firmware update.
I had both phones at the same time. Here are my thoughts:
Z5 Compact
+ I prefer the phone size much better
+ I play ingress, so prefer the better battery life and single handed use
+ I have a couple of external battery packs, which quick charge the Z5C
+ Waterproof
+ Really like that Sony went with regular micro-USB connector unlike the Z3C
+ Expandable memory. This can become expanded internal memory in Marshmallow
+ I love Tap to Wake
+ It is a sexy looking device
- Thicker than the N5X
- Not thrilled that the volume rocker is below the power button
- Surely majority of folks don't use the wrist strap feature?! It's a dust collector for me.
- Typing an issue on a smaller keyboard
- Voice recognition is iffy
- I hate that I don't have the option to turn off the notification light at when charging at night (always have to remember to place the phone facedown)
- Run hot under heavy use, but I use a case to avoid the slipper glass on the back anyway
Nexus 5X
+ Clean UI
+ Fast updates
+ Better fingerprint sensor
+ Thin and light
+ Better typing experience
+ Ambient display
- Too large for single-handed use
- Camera pops out like a nipple - could be seen as a positive
- USB-C means new expense on cables and charger (consider the added expenses here)
- My external chargers will work with N5X, but will not charge as quick as a licensed Qualcomm Quickcharge phone
- The vibration motor is a lot harsher than the Z5C. Not a fan.
- The mono speaker seems to be facing the back, but there is no opening on the back, so sound is kinda muffled.
- What's the deal with the giant bezel?!
- No expanded memory support
- The internal specs are lower (808 vs 810 in Z5C, and Adreno 418 vs 430 in Z5C). The Z5C guts are actually in the Nexus 6P, but with 3GB RAM.
I ended up returning the Nexus 5X primarily because of the size and having to make sure I have a USB-C cable handy in case I run through the battery. Even when I had the phone charging while I was playing ingress, the phone battery was discharging faster than recharging.
The Z5C is very comfortable to use. I do have an itch for a completely bloat free UI, with Marshmallow. Once unlock and root processes eventually get released/cleaned-up, the Z5C will be take a bigger bite into the Nexus 5X's main selling point.
N5X advantages:
- Camera (for photos) is in another league, look at the camera samples, the photos are very sharp compared to all Sony Z cameras.
- Fast updates.
- Stock clean Android (only Google apps that can be disabled) / Camera2 API / probably…not sure: Google Now Always ON / etc
Z5C adv:
- Battery life (If N5X battery life is less than 50% better than N5 battery, then it still really sux).
- Size (subjective)
- SoC 810 is much better.
- Long battery life when gaming.
- Some General hardware~ (mic quality / screen quality / etc).
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Finally i bought the 5x due to no AOSP roms available yet on z5c ,
thanks everyone .
So, I had nexus 5x for 1.5 month, got 5x after beloved Sony z5c international with fingerprint reader and wrist strap due to switching to verizon from ATT and it was cheapest of the semi-decent phones. I regret both.
1. While its compatible, and verizon sim works, i barely get signal 3G LTE to none while my other friends right next to me with iphones and samsung phones get high speed full bars 4g lte, so must be poor antenna or not fully compatible with verizon as claimed. And mind you its after hours on the phone with verizon i got it to even work. When i try send emails most times it flashes message every 1-2 seconds "no connection" "retry" then "connected", that creates multiple drafts when im trying to send email, nuisance to say the least. Or messages I thought were sent stuck in limbo, shown sent on device, but when login to email account from pc it isnt sent or even in drafts, so its on a device stuck, not sent even when connected while shown as sent on device.
2. giant phone not one handed. And no wrist strap hook!
3. Poor photo quality, no depth, poor resolution, only way to focus camera is to take 1 shot only then it tries to focus, any other way it would normally work on z5c with green to red focus window is not available. I tweaked it a bit using camera MX but even so, mediocre original software & hardware.
3. Pricy and no expansion memory, i got 32gb, and OS + apps already took over 20gb, and mind you i only have very few brain games and productivity apps like docsToGo that do not take much space, rest is android os itself upfront.
4. Not waterproof or resistant. Even when water droplet hits center of screen it acts out thinking its my finger, z5c did not react same way to water at all, it ignored it mostly, only responding to finger.
5. google keyboard is horrible, not even arrows to move coursor right or left within text, and gokeyboard became commercialized with adds so.. i didnt find better alternative, and you have to be precise getting it into right spot to insert extra words in between especially at the beginning of paragraph.
6. New Android version lost too many good features gaining none. Like little menu on the bottom right to close all open apps at once, gone! Now you have to manually close each app. specific to z5c mini apps like calculator, browser that can be used simultaneously with other apps window in window, shown both at once of course not included, and nothing similar available.
7. Battery life poor. I had about 5hours browsing no video out of it before it hits 20% mark from 100%, with video even faster. While usb c helps charge faster, true, but it doesnt help battery life , and no wireless charging, adapters just came to market, i do not think ill keep phone long enough to try if it works.
8. Back to memory expansion, so forget microsd, but even usb wont work. I have samsung duo usb3 to micro usb, so attempt 1 was to use anker adapter with my samsung usbduo drive and it didnt even register the drive. So i went ahead and bought an app to register usb c drive, didnt work. attempt 2 after shelling out for the nexus 5x compatible app, bought usb c flash drive guess what, only registers with that app, and even then cant just browse folders and files, open, work with file, save, ..no. you would have to copy to phone then work with file, save to phone only, and only then copy or move back to usb c drive. Really! So i scrapped that plan, went cloud, and got rid of usb c drive.
9. When plug in to pc have to manually each time select transfer files or it will only charge by default, havent found way to change that either.
10. Camera and fingerprint reader so close, guess where your fingerprint lands most times? Yup, keep wiping the camera lense.
11. Cherry on top, doesnt come with usb c to usb 2.0 or usb 3.0 cable, google store omitted that just saying charger and usb c cable, so as you discover that fact and jumping to look for a cable thats never seems available in google store site, your return time slot is closing down on you ..14 days..and you cant even test it with pc plugged in..
So, good stuff..fingerprint scanner works, usb c charge faster by 2x time.. that is about it.
Contacted google store and since its over 14 days = nonrefundable.
Conclusion, I am going back to AT&T and my beloved z5c! Yes, it doesnt have usb c and older (better version of android).. but guess what small, waterproof, has wriststrap to phone not just case, faster, better camera, better photos album layout, keyboard, LTE 4G without hangs and drops, same fingerprint scanner, and if i left out anything else, its there, on that sweet small device.
Perhaps someone else might find 5x mediocre good enough and cheap enough but for me I am ok going back to proven to be better for same price!
Edit: I didn't read the dates or the whole tread. I need sleep.
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
Mephistorium said:
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
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The Sony ui is still full of bugs but marshmallow performs at a decent level. Still nothing to compete with it in its size class.
Mephistorium said:
Hello,
I'm facing the same thing for a few days now; I'm hesitating between picking up a Nexus 5X or a Z5C, the first one has the advantage of frequent updates and clean Android experience but a relatively big screen while the second one has an ideal screen but I've heard about lots of overheating problems related to it.
So since it's 2016 and both phones are running Marshmallow, can you guys give me a quick update on your experiences now ? Thanks
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The z5c is a great phone, its just the battery life isn't the best in my opinion......you ever consider thinking of the Z3C? Im sure its a no since its been 2 years passed.
Thanks a lot for your feedback, As you said: the thing is that the Z5C has nothing to compete against in the small flagship category, if the battery lasts for a day on average use then I'm fine also the phone doesn't overheat from normal use as I've been reading all over the internet.
Regarding the Z3C, I think I can consider it if it's not too far from the Z5C performance, any feedback on that could be helpful!
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Thanks a lot for your feedback, As you said: the thing is that the Z5C has nothing to compete against in the small flagship category, if the battery lasts for a day on average use then I'm fine also the phone doesn't overheat from normal use as I've been reading all over the internet.
Regarding the Z3C, I think I can consider it if it's not too far from the Z5C performance, any feedback on that could be helpful!
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Z3c edges out slightly better in performance and dev support. BUT it has side charging port and flaps, not the most practical. It's all about your price range really.
Thanks a lot! Actually I have a bit of money on the side so I can get the Z5C, and in Europe the difference between the Z5C and the Z3C is like 60 dollars, the nexus 5x is the cheapest of all three phones
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Thanks a lot! Actually I have a bit of money on the side so I can get the Z5C, and in Europe the difference between the Z5C and the Z3C is like 60 dollars, the nexus 5x is the cheapest of all three phones
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Just like guy from above said, its all about your price/how much you can afford, ppl mainly go for nexus 5x for fast updates (pretty much it). If you not picky on the year, Z3C is your best bet if you want performance and best battery life and plus theres a unique developer at the Z3C forum that has been making the Z3C a perfect phone for anyone. The reason I got the Z5C is because I had screen issues on the Z3C and plus i was still in love of the compact series of the xperia. Z5C is doing fine for me
uchechris said:
Just like guy from above said, its all about your price/how much you can afford, ppl mainly go for nexus 5x for fast updates (pretty much it). If you not picky on the year, Z3C is your best bet if you want performance and best battery life and plus theres a unique developer at the Z3C forum that has been making the Z3C a perfect phone for anyone. The reason I got the Z5C is because I had screen issues on the Z3C and plus i was still in love of the compact series of the xperia. Z5C is doing fine for me
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Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
Mephistorium said:
Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
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Your welcome, be sure to go to the Z3C forum if you have additional questions, its really a good phone. I recommend flashing this rom to make your phone very unique but before doing that, you need root and recovery, thank God its easier to do it without unlocking the boot loader, just zoom in that forum for all of your questions, I wish you the best of luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/development/rom-slimm-t3359831
Mephistorium said:
Well thanks a lot, I do trust your ways around phones, so I've ordered a Z3C with a magnetic charger ( to avoid trouble with slot flaps ) think it's my best bet as you said.
Thanks again
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I suggest you cancel the z3c order. The Z3/Z3c is easy to has touch issue after 12~16 months, the touch panel life cycle is short, my friend Z3 got screen problem right after his warranty expired a few days(exactly 12 months passed) and he fuxked up and switched to Iphone, he was a Sony fans with only SE/Sony phones used in his life.
I admit Z3c got better software development, battery and thermal control. However, the camera on Z3c is worse than Z1c/Z5c. But if you only want a cheap compact and don't care buy another one after 1~2 years then Z3c is still a good choice.
TheEndHK said:
I suggest you cancel the z3c order. The Z3/Z3c is easy to has touch issue after 12~16 months, the touch panel life cycle is short, my friend Z3 got screen problem right after his warranty expired a few days(exactly 12 months passed) and he fuxked up and switched to Iphone, he was a Sony fans with only SE/Sony phones used in his life.
I admit Z3c got better software development, battery and thermal control. However, the camera on Z3c is worse than Z1c/Z5c. But if you only want a cheap compact and don't care buy another one after 1~2 years then Z3c is still a good choice.
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Hello and sorry I was on vacation )
Thank you very much though as (un)lucky as I am, I've returned the z3c via amazon but then I'm back looking, maybe I only have the z5c or something like htc m8 to go after.
anything that sony got wrong, from build quality to processor overheating. i am interested in buying my first sony smartphone, so would like to see if its a wise investment.
like with any other product today, it really depends what you are after. In absolute terms, there's no device that should score more than 6/10 if you really go nip ticking around every single detail.
With that said, I really hate holes in the screen, so reason #1, then I really like SD card, not because I need 3TB of storage but because I keep all the stuff that I need on SD and if phone breaks it is an easy solution. So that's #2.
The main complaint seem to be overheating, but that happens with recording/taking pictures. Not sure, never happened to me because I don't care about cameras on phone. Every one in the last 5 years is decent enough for casual photo and every single one sucks in comparison to a proper camera for half the price.
Now, build quality seems great, but it's been just 2 months. XZ2 I had for 4 years and that was a tank so if this one is that good than no complaints.
Also. I could list 20 features that ppl will argue about and I find them completely irrelevant. I paid for the undamaged screen and SD card slot first, the rest I could get for 1/3 of the price of mark IV. Screen I could get on some gaming phone or under display camera one but those don't have SD. And many chinese phones still have USB 2 so.......
I agree with nearly everything @kinggo2 wrote, I don't really dislike holes in the screen. But I must say Sony has done well to get rid of those massive bezels of the past. The phone did heat up a bit when I started using it. It
seems to have learnt my usage case and doesn't heat up as much. I love the fact that it does have a sdcard slot and a headphone jack. I also just store stuff on a card and move the card when I get a new phone. The only thing I miss is an FM radio which I still listen to. I can get around this by streaming. My Z5 Premium and Z2 are still good and work. That said, the price is high. I justified it by saying it was a good deal because I got a free set of WH-1000XM4 cans with the phone. Phones are a depreciating asset, but if you don't like the price, see whether the 5 IV suits you. And yes, I would recommend it.
I'd recommend buying it over the exynos S22+....laggy, overrated phone...the Xperia is smooth as silk in comparison
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
invasion13 said:
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
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so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
Fytdyh said:
so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
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Processor known to heat , case design, and software optimization i guess
So.. I agree with @kinggo2 .. My 2 cents :
All the reviews that weigh battery life / charging speed high are irrelevant to me. As long as no phone can do a week, I am perfectly happy with phones that last a full day on average - which the sony does. I also charge the phone at night - so I dont really care about charging speed. By the way, I had an Asus ROG 5 and while the charging speed was spectacular, the battery capacity degraded rapidly and after 6 months, I could barely use it for 1/2 a day. Many studies show that frequently charging your phone at high wattages reduces battery life.
No other phone has 12GB RAM, 512GB Storage, 4K display, expandable storage, dual sim, close to stock android skin, good camera hardware, 3.5mm jack, front display without camera cutouts - and all that packaged in a sleek 185mg, IP68, matte glass back body that is so much easier to grasp - and I really hate curved displays, which thankfully sony has decided not to do.
If you don't like the default camera app, you can download Gcam for free, and get really awesome single click night photos (low light photos are probably the only area that I concede that the default camera app's basic mode is really bad - everything else is not really that perceptible IMHO)
On principle, I don't buy Apple or Samsung phones. I feel they unfairly enter into deals with the carriers (atleast in the US) to ensure that they remain the dominant manufacturers. It is unfair to the consumers that in the US, it is very hard to get a Xiaomi, POCO, ASUS, Motorola phone and even if you do, connectivity is very poor and 5G will probably not work. Even Sony had to delay US launch probably because they had to put in a different modem. I don't like being bullied by Apple and its fanbase into being forced to use iMessage, AirDrop and Facetime. Lock-in strategies are bad for consumers in general and is a major road-block to innovation.