Usb audio out - Samsung Galaxy Alpha

I just bought GA and I have a little problem/question: I paired my Fiio e18 USB dac/amp with alpha with usb cable and I got an background continue noise. Could somebody try and tell me if it is a general bad design problem or is something wrong with my phone. From the headphones out sound seems to be better than s5 and note 4.

I don't have the issue with my Alpha and Fiio E18... Have you check if the Fiio and USB cables works perfectly with other device?...
So we can isolate where the issue come from.

I used the same combo with S5 dual sim ( 900fd) and with note 4. Maybe is a problem with the cable or the Dac. I will try with another cable, with fiio e17 and with note 3. I guess will find out who's the blame. I will be back.
P.S. The headphones output semms better than note 4 snapdragon.

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Anyone know how to enable USB audio output?

My old Samsung Galaxy S 2 had an audio accessories option provided by Samsung to enable USB audio output, despite it not being natively supported until recently, in lollipop.
I was just curious as to whether anyone's managed to enable the feature on the alpha. I'm presuming the feature will return when the lollipop update comes for the alpha, but kinda need it for my car radio in the short term.
Thanks.
I will try in the morning with the fiio e18 USB dac/amp. It should work out of the box
It works with stock firmware but I got some electronic noise as soon as I connected the dac with the phone. I will try to install a fresh firmware to see if it's a problem with my mainboard, drivers or something else. I'll be back
With fiio e 18 the noise is present at 0 volume from amplifier, even after firmware update. So..it could be my mainboard fault or general power circuit fault. BUT USB AUDIO OUT IS WORKING ON EXYNOS ALPHA WITH STOCK FIRMWARE. ( if you play music the noise is missing or is covered by song).
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
aatjitra said:
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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Yes. If you are using a good quality headphones, while plugging it to the phone, you will realize that Alpha does provide a very good sound quality.... but with using DAC like E18, the result is unbelievable...
You will get eargasm for sure... The sound quality is very much better...
Maybe is a problem with my e18 or the cable. I will try with another cable.

USB-C Audio adapters

Hey all,
I'm looking to buy an tab S3 but I want to use it in a very specific use case where I need to use a USB-C to audio adapter (yes, I know it has a 3.5mm jack plug).
We have the tablet at work but because it's for a client I can't just tinker around with it.
I tried the USB-C adapter that came with the Google pixel 2 XL but that didn't work. The Tab S3 didn't play the sound over the speakers and paused when I plugged out the adapter as if it recognized it but I could hear anything. Does anyone have experience of a adapter that does work?
Also, does it work with the cheap passive adapters without a DAC? (USB-C audio can be analogue if the device supports it, other only do digital and require a DAC)

Question USB-C to 3.5mm for car auxiliary port

Hello!
I recently picked up a pixel 6, very happy with it so far except for the fact that my car is too old for the bluetooth to carry music to the radio.
I was wondering if anybody has managed to find a type c to 3.5mm cable that works? I have tried a type c to 3.5mm adaptor and it doesn't work, I think I need a straight type c to 3.5mm cable instead of an adaptor?
Before anybody asks, I have an fm transmiter but not really enjoying the experience between static or the bluetooth getting confused with the car itself.
I don't see why a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter shouldn't work. Try finding one on amazon that specifically advertises use in cars. It could be possible that the one you have is incompatible, manufacturers tend to make adapters that only work in specific circumstances.
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
Thank you both.
I have seen this one on Amazon, this is what I need I guess?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KOOPAO-Adapter-Headphone-Stereo-Compatible-Grey/dp/B07Z3TRJKS/ref=sr_1_4?crid=VG53YFREW7S7&keywords=Type+C+to+3.5mm+Stereo+Audio+Cable&qid=1641755818&sprefix=type+c+to+3.5mm+stereo+audio+cable%2Caps%2C84&sr=8-4
I use this one:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Y7YXHSB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
An alternative if you have 12v power in your car is using a USB Bluetooth to 3.5mm device like this one.
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
Hagibis Bluetooth Receiver Bluetooth 5.0 Adapter Hands-Free Bluetooth Car Kits AUX Audio 3.5mm Jack Stereo Music Wireless Receiver for Car Speaker Home Built-in Microphone (U3-Grey) : Amazon.com.au: Electronics
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That way you can still be wireless and have Bluetooth in an older car, without having to deal with those hit or miss radio adaptors
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
cervantesjc said:
I have this issue since using the Galaxy S21, the way I fixed it, start playing music on the phone speaker, then connect the cable, and it will start working, it happens all the time, that why I bought a cheap Bluetooth receiver from Walmart, best $8 I've spent in years.
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I thought to do the same but the phone shows that the connected device is not supported
neptun2 said:
You need an active adapter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter). Passive ones will not work. You better get the google cable if available. Apple one works but is too quiet in android. In fact any active cable should work.
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Just to clear up what that actually means for OP: a passive adapter will work only on USB-C ports that are able to route an *analog* signal. These are fairly uncommon -- most USB-C ports are digital only.
The nice thing about digital output is that you get to control the sound quality by selecting a USB-DAC of a quality that meets your needs, instead of being limited to whatever cheap thing they built in to the phone.
Physically, you can't even tell the difference any more. While USB-DAC's used to always involve a "big ugly box", the circuitry has shrunk these days to small enough to fit into the ends of the dongle.
The headphone adapter sold by Google is an example of this, its a USB-DAC, but shows no sign of containing any significant components besides the connectors.
I tried one that came with an old Motorola phone and it did not work, but Google sells one. They should be able to confirm if it works before you order it
https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter?hl=en-US
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
cervantesjc said:
I've personally tried 3 different ones that have worked for me, the first one was from an old Motorola phone, the second one, was one that I bought at an airport, I believe the brand is Moshi, and the third one was coming from a one plus phone. They all worked by playing on phone speaker and then plugging it.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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Which Moto phone? My Moto Z(2) Force one gives an error message that the audio device is not supported.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It is the moto Z2 Force, I've used it a couple times, and I had no issues.
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It works on your Pixel 6? Maybe mine is defective??
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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I tried an adapter from a Oneplus 6 (if memory serves) and I had the same problem, hence the thread
Given the one from Google looks just the same I am apprehensive to buy it until I am 100% certain
Today DAC circuits are so small that it is easy to integrate these into the usb type c part of the cable. There is no way to tell if cable is active or passive only by looking at it anymore. Google cable should work fine. Alternatively you can try the trick with first playing through the speakers and then connecting the old oneplus 6 cable and see if that will make it work. ne side note - don't buy the apple usb to 3.5 mm cable. It has very low volume on android (works properly on ios and windows). Tested it myself.
neptun2 said:
This discussion is very interesting. Generally pixel 6 (and previous pixels also) do not send analogue audio signal to the usb type c port hence passive converters from type c to 3.5 mm do not work. You need active converter with integrated DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it so that the digital audio from the usb type c port is transformed to analogue signal and sent to the headphones or whatever else. Every phone though has integrated DAC in the chipset because otherwise it would not be able to drive its own speakers with analogue signal. When i tried to connect my passive DAC adapter from oneplus 7 phone i got error on the pixel 6 that cable is not compatible. It is possible if you play something through the speakers analogue signal to also be copied towards the usb type c port and this way to trick passive adapters to also work but this need to be tested. I think that i still have the passive adapter somewhere and will test these days if i find it.
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It would need to be physically wired together like that, which it is definitely not.
It would probably also need a second DAC built in, because there are only so many speakers you can drive with the built-in. That's why some phones are advertised as "dual DAC".
Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Got Pixel 6 usb-c to 3.5 mm one direct from Google...works great.
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Is this for a car aux port or for earphones you use it for?

Question Mi mix 4 USB audio

Hello I would like to see if anyone here could kindly help me. Basically I have a mi mix 4 on miui 13 eu rom I have a usb c cable that connects to 2 pin iems the cable has a dac built into the usb c housing the cable works fine on my old phone but with the mi mix 4 occasionally there is a subtle static sound. My old phone doesnt support passive usb audio so a digital signal gets sent to the dac where it turns into analogue since it works on that phone the cable itself isnt the problem however I know xiaomi phones support passive analogue out the usb to 3.5 mm adapter it comes with doesnt have a dac in it and works fine with earbuds with a 3.5mm jack so I was wondering what I can do to fix this issue could a software update to miui 14 eu rom help or should I try pixel experience? Is there someway to make the phone not detect the external dac and bypass it because id be fine with using the internal dac basically by forcing audio adapter accessory mode. I wish I could find a cable that as usb c to two pin that didnt have a built in dac but it seems like it is such a niche thing. All this to avoid having to use a adapter lol

Question Any compatible wired earbuds (hands free)with S23 ultra (s23 series)?

I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
Jabra elite 85t work
alilou.bm said:
Jabra elite 85t work
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These are Bluetooth headset I think. I prefer wired ones
Samsung GH59-15198A, as provided with Note 10+ (and S20 series). I still use it with S23U. It can still be purchased online.
Galaxy Buds 2 (SM-R177NZKAXAC) working great.
I just use the google usb c headphone adapter
You need a USB-C to 3.5mm jack adapter that HAS A DAC. The reason why your Huawei headphones didn't work is because Huawei phones have the DAC built in.
I have both the S23ULTRA and an old Mate20Pro, plus a Huawei adapter (not working) and headphones (also not working).
Bought a 32 bit/192kHz DAC from AliExpress (overkill for my ears) and it sounds excellent.
I use a wired Sony MDR-EX650AP (stereo + mic) in-ear headphones with an iNassen USB-C to 3.5mm jack audio adapter, the latter bought initially for my e-book reader so I can still use wired headphones connected to its USB-C port.
I doubt this adapter has any DAC apart from what it is required for filtering noise and converting signal itself, however for months on this phone it's been working fine. Even at lowest levels sound is sufficiently loud, clear and the adapter is very thin and not bulky so feels like an extension to the 3.5mm cable. Of course, especially since the phone is frequently in my pockets, in moments the USB-C cable can "get disconnected" software-wise (physically it always stays connected) when moving or when the phone hits different parts of the belt or the pockets - S23U is massive, but this has nothing to do with the quality of both the adapter and the headphones. I bought the adapter on Amazon some years ago, although you may try something similar of another brand - just watch for highest possible bit/kHz ratio on specs and it should work straight away - the S23 Ultra is powerful enough to run (without DAC) any non-professional low-impedance headphones connected. Not certain about audio and mic though since the mic on the above Sony's stopped working for me after having this out in a rain last year. But it could, I see no reason why not.
Menergy said:
I use a wired Sony MDR-EX650AP (stereo + mic) in-ear headphones with an iNassen USB-C to 3.5mm jack audio adapter, the latter bought initially for my e-book reader so I can still use wired headphones connected to its USB-C port.
I doubt this adapter has any DAC apart from what it is required for filtering noise and converting signal itself, however for months on this phone it's been working fine. Even at lowest levels sound is sufficiently loud, clear and the adapter is very thin and not bulky so feels like an extension to the 3.5mm cable. Of course, especially since the phone is frequently in my pockets, in moments the USB-C cable can "get disconnected" software-wise (physically it always stays connected) when moving or when the phone hits different parts of the belt or the pockets - S23U is massive, but this has nothing to do with the quality of both the adapter and the headphones. I bought the adapter on Amazon some years ago, although you may try something similar of another brand - just watch for highest possible bit/kHz ratio on specs and it should work straight away - the S23 Ultra is powerful enough to run (without DAC) any non-professional low-impedance headphones connected. Not certain about audio and mic though since the mic on the above Sony's stopped working for me after having this out in a rain last year. But it could, I see no reason why not.
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You may doubt your usb c adapter has a DAC, but the S23U does NOT provide analogue music output to the USB C port. Without a DAC in the chain (in adapter, in headset, separate DAC) no audible music.
gpap2004 said:
I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
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Soundmagic e10 or e11
i use this.
2.3 usd.
support s23 ultra dan laptop type c.
gpap2004 said:
I bought Huawei CM33 Earbuds Handsfree USB-C white, but the phone didn't recognise the hands free earbuds. I'm looking for a good compatible hands free set with loud bass and clear sound. Any suggestions?
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Good bass, no adapter required, ebay has the lowest prices.
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Better overall but you’ll need an adapter.

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