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Hey guys, I love the look of this phone, my favorite color scheme has always been red and black. But I don't want a good looking phone if its not going to perform like I want it to.
So my first concern is developer support. Since this is a very slight upgrade it is possible not many people in the development community will buy it unless it is compatible with the International One X roms? Will this be the case or not?
Second is to due with the Tegra 3. From my understanding the new S4 Pro destroys this processor. My current phone being a sensation which constantly lags I don't want to ever be subject to lag again. Is there really that much of a difference in the two processors?
Third is to due with the ram, 1gb compared to the 2gb in phones coming out now seems lackluster. What do you guys think of this, is it a huge limitation or is the 2gb of ram a fad?
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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Would also like to know if it will be able to run the one X roms.
I dont think it would take much to change to get it to boot correctly.
But who knows until its released and people try
Im due for a upgrade, and looking at this, unless people have a better device option to upgrade to.
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Would also like to know if it will be able to run the one X roms.
I dont think it would take much to change to get it to boot correctly.
But who knows until its released and people try
Im due for a upgrade, and looking at this, unless people have a better device option to upgrade to.
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I would imagine there would be some modifications that would need to be made and then ported over. I say this because from what I have seen on the one x, the Jelly Bean base which is out there for the one x+ will not work properly.
I would say go for the one x+ as it is the perfected version of the one x. All of the mistakes have been rectified. I have always stuck with HTC, although I do hear good things about Samsung.
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Hey guys, I love the look of this phone, my favorite color scheme has always been red and black. But I don't want a good looking phone if its not going to perform like I want it to.
So my first concern is developer support. Since this is a very slight upgrade it is possible not many people in the development community will buy it unless it is compatible with the International One X roms? Will this be the case or not?
Second is to due with the Tegra 3. From my understanding the new S4 Pro destroys this processor. My current phone being a sensation which constantly lags I don't want to ever be subject to lag again. Is there really that much of a difference in the two processors?
Third is to due with the ram, 1gb compared to the 2gb in phones coming out now seems lackluster. What do you guys think of this, is it a huge limitation or is the 2gb of ram a fad?
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
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1gb ram is plenty for the moment. It will be good to go for another year or two even. Tegra is very good from personal experience, and from modifications they have made for the one x+ it seems it will be a worthy contender to be matched with!
Quad core is only really utilised when gaming. So if your a mobile gamer then this shall do the trick!
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1gb ram is plenty for the moment. It will be good to go for another year or two even. Tegra is very good from personal experience, and from modifications they have made for the one x+ it seems it will be a worthy contender to be matched with!
Quad core is only really utilised when gaming. So if your a mobile gamer then this shall do the trick!
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I don't understand your points:
- 1GB is enough because of non-multitasking "feature" doesn't need more RAM? (Though it's a bit better now)
- Tegra is very good from personal experience? Are you kidding? I owned Galaxy Tab 10.1 (tegra 2), Asus TF Prime and Asus TF Infinity and for me Tegra SoCs are [email protected]
Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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Also considering the LG Optimus G now coz the reviews r pretty good
LG isn't as bad as ppl think it is. Nexus products are undoubtedly good.
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Hey everybody..
I have decided to buy new phone and I've shortlisted down to HTC One X+, Sony Xperia T and LG Nexus 4
If there's another I should consider please let me know
As u know,
HTC One X+ has a 1.7GHz quad core tegra 3 processor with a 1GB RAM
Sony Xperia T has a dual core 1.5GHz Krait with a 1GB RAM
LG Nexus 4 has a 1.6GHz Quad core Krait with 2GB RAM
I know the nexus seems to be the obvious choice when it comes to performance but I'm not familiar with LG's build quality. Also, the phone is expected to be not more than 350USD which in itself makes me doubt the quality.
People with knowledge about the hardware please help me out here.. I'm spending a lot of money and want to make sure i don't make the wrong choice.
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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galaxy nexus was $399.
do you doubt its build quality?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/29/google-nexus-4-hands-on/
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well the nexus 4 has a quad core krait at 1.6GHz and a 2GB RAM.. i mean the best u can get for that price now is a 1GHz dual core with max 1GB RAM..
so i'm not sure how to believe the build quality
Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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Google Nexus 4 is the best. I have a htc one x now and I will sell it and buy a google nexus 4.
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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give me ur opinion once u get nexus 4
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
But the Main drawback of nexus is it does not have a sd card slot if storage not an issue for you then nexus is an option.. I think it will available in 8 and 16 GB ..please correct me if I am wrong..
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for me its best wait another bit because i think google will do like with nexus 7.now lg nexus 8\16,then after a month,2 or 3,also upper storage at a bit more price..just my suggestion,but i seriously think they will do so.Anyways,in that comparison,lg nexus 4 all the way.at least also the sony,but man,a nexus is a nexus!in 2016 probably you will have in this day upcoming the android 8.0 for lg nexus 4.think of it
the hardware matters more to me.. u can always get a custom rom but u cant change the hardware.. and also, im not considering ne phone bigger than 4.7 inches.. so nexus 7 is outta the picture.. so is note 2.
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Here is a comparison.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsedG9trZ9updHhycDlGdGFsaEw2NXB3elBhN1pkWVE&output=html
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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i was talking abt the one x+.. it has a faster gpu, cpu and also has a 2100mAh battery.. but yea anyway nexus 4 seems better.. but the storage is an issue
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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Yeah, I pretty much agree. Nexus 4 is such a beast spec wise and such a great deal for the price, but the storage is an absolutely huge downside unfortunately.
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If HTC or Sony come out with a quad core krait phone il b the first one to buy it
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I feel like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number of reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said there is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest and greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonate shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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I've be thinking myself about getting either the Nexus 4 of the HTC One X+ (I'm not considering the Sony phone).
First, keep in mind that the reason the Nexus 4 is so inexpensive, for an unlocked phone, is because Google is deliberately selling it at cost (as a sort of loss leader) to get people into their cloud services and ecosystem. They're also trying to entice people into unlocked devices and do an end run around the carriers and all their demands. And, since this is the developer phone, Google has an interest in making it appealing for developers to purchase and, well, develop apps for Android. So the cost is not a reflection of the quality of the phone. It's a choice by Google to sell the phone cheaply. Lastly, flash storage is super expensive and Google has put very little into this device (16GB max), so that big shortcoming also helps keep the cost down (the HTC One X+ will have either twice, 32GB, or four times, 64GB, as much storage).
That aside, I've been reading a lot of reviews of the Nexus 4 (Engadget, Wired, Tech Crunch, The Verge, Slashgear, Gizmodo--perhaps a couple others I don't remember off hand). I really want to love the Nexus 4, but it has a lot of shortcomings.
Obviously it does not have LTE, which does not make it very future proof. And it offers max only 16GB of storage, with no SD card.
Despite having the latest greatest quad-core processor out there, a number of reviews have benchmarked the phone and show it gets scores not as good previous generation phones (like the original HTC One X beats it). That makes no sense. Perhaps it's a software issue that will be corrected before release, but you might want to wait and see.
Another weird problem is that a number of reviewers have found it's battery life to be poor. Engadget called it "pathetic." This is despite the fact that it has a large 2100 mAh battery (same as in the One X+) and a new supposedly more efficient processor, yet it doesn't even get as good battery life as the orginal One X with a smaller battery and a less efficient processor.
The camera on the Nexus 4 is also supposed to be passable, but not great. A step up form the poor cameras in previous Nexus devices, but definitely not as good as flagship devices like the Galaxy SIII and the One X/X+ (or the amazing Nokia Lumia 920).
Another issue, for me, is the glass back. I fee like, didn't we already learn from the iPhone 4 that glass backs are a bad idea? Isn't this something just waiting to break? The reviewer at The Verge already cracked the glass back on his review unit, when he accidentally knocked the phone off of a table onto a hardwood floor. And the reviewer at Tech Crunch said that the smooth back of the phone makes it want to slide, a couple times taking off when he placed it on a surface that was more slanted than he expected. So the back is prone to breaking and also makes the phone want to slide away. Not a good combination.
A number reviewers have also said the the volume in the earpiece is low and it can be difficult to hear callers in noisy environments. Although other reviewers said their is plenty of volume. And a couple reviewers note that the prefectly flat back of the phone means that when you put it down, the speaker is covered and this muffles sound (the ringer, any audio you might be playing).
Several reviewers have also said that the IPS LCD screen has washed out colors or a slightly blue/cool tint. They say the screen is amazing and amongst the best, but not as good as the similar technology based screen in the One X+.
So when it comes down to it, I have the impression that the Nexus 4 isn't quite up to the standards of other true flagship phones, like the One X+. It falls a little short in too many places. The only places where it really stands out are the latest a greatest processor (though it's not clear the OS has been properly optimized for it), 2GB of RAM, and it's a pure Android phone.
I think the reason to get the Nexus 4 is either because you want a pure Android unlocked phone (which certainly appeals to me) or because it's a good deal for an unlocked phone.
But otherwise the One X+ has a better screen, a sturdier and for some more appealing design (with its solid carbonite shell), better audio quality, better cpu benchmarks, better battery life, much more internal storage, a better camera, and LTE (depending on what model you get). And hopefully eventually you could put Cyanogen or another custom ROM on it and have a pure Android experience anyway. As you note the Optimus G could also be an option, but it's not a phone that appeals to me.
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Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
The software on the nexus 4 isn't the final version, so wait until the consumer version comes out!
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AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I'd get the One X+. It's really a joy to hold, looks great, and already has a massive development community.
AdX9170 said:
Thanks for the in depth opinion ok so then nexus 4 is off my list.. what abt optimus g v.s. one x+?
i'm leaning towards the s4 pro chipset.. each core of the krait can be independently clocked at a particular frequency.. thats gotta increase efficiency right??
plus adreno 320 is a helluva lot faster than its predecessors and supposedly quite a bit faster than the competition..
the only prob for me is that the optimus is coming out in india only by jan '13 im not sure if its worth the wait.. any ideas on that?
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I wouldn't totally write off the Nexus 4 yet. I'm still considering it. Partly because it is a very good deal, for an unlocked phone. The One X+ or Xperia T and Optimus G will probably cost almost twice as much, unlocked.
And I think devgee is correct that the review units for the Nexus 4 did not have the final consumer version of the software on them yet. This might address the battery life and cpu benchmark issues. (It's unfortunate the reviews get published on devices that aren't really what will ship, because any improvements or changes can get overlooked later. I don't know if these reviewers will go back and retest the device.)
For me, it's the minimal storage on the Nexus 4 that makes me hesitate the most, but maybe I can learn to live with it.
If you like the Optimus G, it's definitely worth considering, since it doesn't have the storage limitations of the Nexus 4, and it tested well for battery life and in the cpu benchmarks. And some versions have a higher resolution 13MP camera. But you give up the pure Android experience. And as James.UBC points out, I don't know that it will have as many custom ROM options as the One X+. I don't really like the design of the Optimus G, but that is entirely a superficial reason not to get it and only my personal taste. Some people think it looks great.
I agree that it would be nice to have the S4 Pro chipset. You can also get this in the Asus Padfone 2, which is a cool phone. It also has 2GB of RAM, the Adreno 320, LTE (for certain frequencies), a 2140 mAh battery, and 16/32/64GB storage options. Plus there's the tablet attachement, if you're into that. Its big downside is that it may have no custom ROMs for it at all, if you want that. I think the original Padfone had basically no development. It's a bit puzzling, because this is a cool phone.
I also agree with James.UBC that the One X+ has a great design. To me its main downsides are that it will be much more expensive than the Nexus 4, unlocked (probably $600US or more). And I don't know if it will have an unlocked bootloader, depending on which version I want to get. And even if it does, I'll have to wait for the development community to catch up and release a ROM that will give me a stock-like Android experience (I don't like Sense). And of course, it has a very good CPU, but one from the previous generation of architecture. I tend to keep my phones for a while, so something that is as future proof as possible is good for me.
Anyway, I recommend that you read reviews of the devices you're interested in on the sites I mentioned in my first post and search around for other reviews. Reviews are easy to find and you get a sense pretty quickly of how thoughtful and knowledgeable the reviewer is. Then keep an eye out in the reviews for comments about the features that matter to you and any problems mentioned. I wouldn't take any one particular review as necessarily right. But if you read several, you start to get a feel for what the issues are.
In the end, you probably can't go wrong with any of these devices either. It really comes down to a matter of personal taste and which features are most important to you. No one device is the best one for everybody.
Thanks a lot cb474.. for me, storage is very important and so is camera.. price comes later in the priority list.. development is also important..
nexus 4 will only have 11~12GB of user available space.. on my x10, i have a 16GB microsd with an ext3 partition of ~700MB which is almost full.. in spite of that i have used up more than 11GB on the sd so i dont think 11GB overall free mem will b enough for me
so my options should be the optimus g (which has an average camera), one x+ (has old generation hardware), xperia t (has dual core with only 1GB ram)... arggghhh!!!
padphone 2 is also gr8 but if theres no dev on it then i'm not willing to go for it
ok this thread has reached a dead end for now.. will wait for the said phones to release and get better reviews..
thanks folks!!
Yeah, it's a hard decision to make. I remain torn between the Nexus 4 and One X+. I care about storage too. 16GB is just a little paltry, for the reasons you point out. At least 32GB would have been nice. Some people think there's a chance there will be a refresh of the Nexus 4 in a few months, with more storage. But I've learned my lesson in the past, about waiting around for rumored and speculated phones.
I'm also a little concerned about the mediocre battery life the Nexus 4 is currently getting, although it's with pre-release software. I'm a bit in a wait and see mode on that.
I agree that as nice as the Padfone 2 is, without development, it's ruled out for me. I presonally would not consider the Sony because of the dual core processor.
It's true the One X+ has a previous generation hardware, but only six months ago it was cutting edge, so I feel like it's splitting hairs a bit. On the other hand, if gaming is important to you the newer generation cpu and gpu in the Nexus 4/Optimus G will make a difference. The bigger long term (future proof) limitation of the One X+, to me, is the 1GB or RAM. But I think it's still a nice phone worth considering.
Still, as I said, if you like the Optimus G, it seems like a good choice. Yeah the One X+ camera hardware is better, it's software is supposed to have a slightly annoying continuous autofocus function. But on some level all these phones are good enough. The great phone cameras are in the Nokia phones, the Lumia 920 and the 808 Pureview. Unless that's super imporant to you, I think it may not be the most important point for the decision.
Good luck in deciding. I'm waiting for more reviews too.
So I just had a passing thought. If the International One X has a Tegra 3 chipset, albeit at a slower clock and a slower GPU, shouldn't the chipset drivers be similar? If that is so, and since the One X is a very popular device with many developers, has anyone tried porting the Int. One X ROMs over here?
I've done some work with Linux, but am new to Android development, so if this is a totally stupid idea, feel free to let me know and delete this thread. Thanks.
If I'm not mistaken this has been tried before but they aren't compatible off the bat for various reasons. Plus if I'm not mistaken again, the One X+ (at least for AT&T) has the "newer" Tegra 3 chip that supports LTE. The original One X's Tegra 3 does not, which is why the originals AT&T model used a Snapdragon chip.
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I've been visiting dealextreme.com and found some pretty good-looking Android phones for cheap. The problem is, well, these are chinese no-name phones.
Their specs seem to be pretty good. I won't lie. But to be honest, they seem too good to be true.
What I'd like to know is: Are they any good?
Look at the N6300 MTK6589 and the JIAYU JY-G3 MTK6589T in dx.com, for example. Their price tag is pretty low, and the phone looks great. But the thing is: Will they last, or fail quickly?
Also, I found a good deal on a used Sony Xperia Go on Latin America's eBay equivalent (MercadoLibre). For about $160USD.
Which phone should I pick and why? What opinion do you have about chinese Android phones? Would you trust these phones for your daily use? Would YOU buy one of those? Or should I just buy the used Xperia Go?
I live in Mexico, so getting a smartphone for $199 + contract is pretty much impossible here. They still cost an arm and a leg even under plan.
To be honest I've gotten knockoff Chinese phones before...some can be really good but keep in mind there's really no rooting or development for em and you'll stay pretty much stock on it...hence a big reason they stay cheap...blu is a good decent brand..id go with a more name brand phone if you want that and there is places like eBay you can get a good phone pretty cheap
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To be honest I've gotten knockoff Chinese phones before...some can be really good but keep in mind there's really no rooting or development for em and you'll stay pretty much stock on it...hence a big reason they stay cheap...blu is a good decent brand..id go with a more name brand phone if you want that and there is places like eBay you can get a good phone pretty cheap
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So I'd be better off buying the used Xperia Go? A safer bet, I guess.
I Own the Cubot GT 99 , 140 USD for 4.5 inch 720p , quad core 1.2 ghz, 12,6mp camera and performs like galaxy s 3 in numbers. The problem with Chinese phones is that they have a cpu brand called mediatek and everything is closed source. So no roms, you can find miui and/or lewa rom, but you have to search. For example my phone, Cubot, is a rebranded xyz x1, and roms like miui are available (I can install 2 day old miui). BUT , unless things change, you are v stuck with the same android version it shipped with, 4.2.1 for me... closed source sucks... and of course no cyanogenmod , also gps is the worst thing in those chips, lock time about half day !
Ya go with the xperia
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I have a G3S Jiayu, ono commented mate up the big problem is that the code is not released, so no chance of modificafo kernel or custom roms
REV3NT3CH said:
Ya go with the xperia
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Can the Xperia Go be upgraded to 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3? I don't mind if it needs CyanogenMod.
Lol, I remember the first time a friend gave me a plum mobile phone for free, three words piece of ****. The god dam phone had only 300 mb ram and 1.0 GHz along with its disgusting screen material and display, not only that but the phone lagged so hard every time I clicked on a app, some process had to end. You can visit the site by googling plum mobile.
Most Chinese android phones aren't reliable/good but there are a handful of companies that make high quality devices like Asus and more.
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Icyice said:
Can the Xperia Go be upgraded to 4.1, 4.2 or 4.3? I don't mind if it needs CyanogenMod.
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Youd have to check the thread for it...im very sure there is custom roms for it
You may see on XiaoMi HongMI, quad core, samsung camera, dual sim and latest MIUI only cost 799 yuan.
http://www.xiaomi.com/hongmi
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oppo.
Icyice said:
about $160USD.
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You can buy THL W100
Icyice said:
getting a smartphone for $199
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You can buy THL W200, Here: http://www.thlmobilestore.com/
It really does depend on the brand, I haven't ever used one myself but friends of mine have tried some out. The bigger brands like Huawei or Xioami are totally legit but the lower ends are pretty much guaranteed to be broken garbage. Still, it's certainly viable to go Chinese.
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It really does depend on the brand, I haven't ever used one myself but friends of mine have tried some out. The bigger brands like Huawei or Xioami are totally legit but the lower ends are pretty much guaranteed to be broken garbage. Stil, it's certainly viable to go Chinese.
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China has some small brands of mobile phones is also doing well.
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China has some small brands of mobile phones is also doing well.
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Yeah, like Jiayu is good and Star is pretty good now too. I think chinese really (like under 50$ or MTK6589 for 100$) are garbage. For example big comapny - ZTE has a model V967S which costs on alie 130-135$ with shipping. It's very cheap for that kind of phone.
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Yeah, like Jiayu is good and Star is pretty good now too. I think chinese really (like under 50$ or MTK6589 for 100$) are garbage. For example big comapny - ZTE has a model V967S which costs on alie 130-135$ with shipping. It's very cheap for that kind of phone.
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100 $ or less Chinese mobile phone, you'd better not buy, there is big quality problem.
depends
Huawei, ZTE and most of other big brands works very good, but unknown brand will usually means problems all the time.
I have Zte v967 and is very good for. 150$. Huge battery as well.
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just thought I would add in that the Cubot gt99 is great.. really solid build, great screen etc. but as someone said, you are currently stuck with the version of android delivered - 4.2.1. to which I don't see a problem with for a phone with such great specs for such a cheap amount.
there do seem to be a lot of 'copy' phones , eg the cubot one.. these, from my reading don't seem to far so well.
I've stuck with cubot and alongside the gt99 for the wife, which I have seen for less than £100 (- potential import taxes) I've ordered a cubot t9. have to see how it goes.
I am hoping that they will release the source in due course, they are supposedly thinking about it as per the cubot forums.
one thing that really impressed us was the built in to the design replaceable screen protector. when you get it, there is one in place that you can hardly tell, much nicer idea than the after thought stick on top. It is nice and thick too.
Using a Jiayu G3 phone for more than a year. First, there are MANY Chinese companies with hundreds of different models so it's hard to say something common about all of them, some are better than other. I have no complains about my Jiayu after one year quality is good, design is good screen is good. It was $200 when I bought it you can still buy a variant now probably $50 cheaper now.
What is common:
Most use Mediatek SoCs. They are not on the same class as Qualcomm or Exynos but they have for some time Quad core A9 and A7 based and the Octacore A7 just start appearing in some phones (gets about 30000 Antutu scores so not bad for the price).
Mediatek supports dual SIM so all Mediatek based phones have dual SIM (very popular in China).
Now, be careful. All phones have Quad band GSM (2G) so they will work in any GSM based network, but the 3G will most likely not work (may be some small networks in Europe which works). They do not have yet LTE and when they will have may work just in China. So if you need data , forget the Chinese phone. If you use it for voice only, just make sure (in US and Canada) that your provider supports GSM for 2G (it's not one of CDMA ones).
also most phones will hardly get any updates, so expect that what you get is all. Some bigger companies will offer updates and you will find a number of custom ROMs (MIU, Lewa) but if you don't speak Chines you will need to spend a lot of time using Google translate). Rooting is not a problem however, I did not hear about any Chinese phone which could not be rooted, and if you stay with more common brands and models you will find custom recovery besed on TWRP for them.
You can get a quite decent phone either 720p or 1080p with good screen and very decent performance in the $200 range, if you are good with the limitations above.
You can get higher end models with Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 (or Tegra 4) but you will be in $500+ range which gets you in the big brands range.
In conclusion:
Buy one only if you use it for GSM (2G) voice. Forget if you need 3G or 4G.
Don't buy the very cheap no name ones, I would stay with $150+ for a decent phone. For most, in this price range or higher quality is not a problem, but higher you go in price more features newer SoC, more memory, better screen more recent OS you get.
You can get models which will be at least as good (or better) than brand names if you go to $500+ range (but you will still not have 3G and 4G, and will have less community support, at least if you don't speak Chinese so think twice).If you only use the phone for voice and WiFi for data, however this models could even be one step ahead of brand names ( it looks like VIVO will be the first phone with 1440p LCD).
A good tip I can give is spend as much time as possible to check out reviews about the phones.
At least, that is what I did for my Inew.
When I saw the phone was almost everytime in the top 5 list of the "most sold" or "most popular" phones, I thought those people can't be wrong.
Also, check some reviews for the brands, although there are a lot of brands, it is easy to see which brands are preferred.
hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
Its a totally awesome phone. Most htc phones have something about them that is noticeably lacking... But not this model. Even today it is just a kick ass device.
But whatever you do, don't buy the attached version. There is a reason they are $100 cheaper on eBay. Basically ZERO Dev support. The international version gets all the goods. Sucks too because the att version works at full speed with any gsm carrier
Buy it dude!! HOX+ is one of the legendary devices.. It's camera is excellent.. on par with the current generation devices..
But on the other side, HOX+ will eventually lose its battery backup capacity easily.. and it becomes hot on continuos usage.. so think carefully before you buy..
'Be careful what you wish for'
Good luck:laugh:
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hello guys...
a pleasant day, now i just found that this mobile down to cheapest price but good in specs...
is this good and worth to buy now? and on what update version of android does this one have?
im not sure which is good and difference between one x and one x+ its just like attractive with 32 gb internal..
pls help me decide on its usage and durabilty now a days...
big thanks guys...
-dennis...
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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It's a great phone, I've always loved it. But there are better phones, many.
True about the Tegra 3, it heats up while gaming. Battery life is not that great (especially on mine, 2yo).
Camera is acceptable, but I wouldn't call it great. The screen however, is like one of best out there.
Differences between the One X and the One X+ is the internal memory and an upgraded Tegra 3 (for the +).
Additionally also Glosnass support for the +
It's old tech, wouldn't buy it right now. Buy a new generation phone with a newer processor, because the nVidia chipset in this one is outdated.
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Dont even bother buying this device , i have the AT&T version 64 GB , camera sucks on both INT and At&t , and the device also heats up on games. I have rooted and using custom rom. Buy some new cellphones. Further it had Tegra3 for which there are no more updates available. Its processor is based on 40nm die architecture which is old. Dont buy cellphones with Nvidia Chipsets.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
Buddy you should update yourself since this phone is stuck at 4.2.2 while Samsung S3 is getting kitkat updates. Further huawei P7 doesnt even heat up on games like San Andreas since my friend and i compared it. One x + no doubt is a lovely phone but please in 2014 dont buy it. Further game experience is laggy. I am using it so i know better..
Goodluck.
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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Dude, Dont buy.
buy Tegra only with nexus devices otherwise screw NVIDIA.
oh!
Whatever! It's a very nice device.. Just buy it..! :laugh:
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You must be sick to be recommending not buying Nvidia chipsets. Tegra 3 is one of the best GPUs available right now leaving alone the Tegra 4 which is only available on the Nvidia Shield and other limited number of devices.
I've used some varieties of cell phones and i've found the camera quality one of the best in this device. Running a quad core clocked at 1.7 Ghz and expecting it to not heat up? You must be bull****ting here.
Please dont defame a good phone just because you don't like it for some frickin reason.
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
Not really
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It's actually one of the worst now. There are better devices than the X+ by miles. It's based on 2/3? Year old technology. The device is now pretty much classed low or barely middle class, due to no more driver support also we are running on an old kernel with little hope of seeing a recent one... IMO if someone has a choice of devices to get, this one wouldn't be on that list.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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You are bound to make such remarks when you compare old technologies with the new ones. If adopting your terminologies, it should imply that every device should be called as "low class" and/or "worst" at some point of time which is very inappropriate and misleading. You make it sound like upgrading a desktop computer all the time whenever a new hardware peripheral arrives.
In 2004, a set of several devices were released namely HTC Magician, I-Mate JAM, O2 XDA II-Mini and others which took about 3-5 years for them to develop. Later on, upgrading and upscaling to newer models took hardly 1-2 years. Apple's Iphone has had a similar story. In this respect, we should appreciate the older devices more in terms of advent and innovation, otherwise we woudn't have been here fiddling with our quad-cored phones( And Octas ). Personally, I-Mate JAM and Nokia Communicator 9500 are the best devices i've ever had and the older technology does not make it any different. Also, i believe that the older devices had some undefined quality which many people agree with.
In the same principles, there are some devices which some users like and prefer regardless of the fact that whether the company has stopped providing updates and/or support or not. There are too many factors to take into account other than the technology. Speaking in terms of benchmark and power, my preferred devices would easily give up before yours.
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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Well to expand on we have both said, when a new "high end" device comes out, the older one goes to the low/mid of the high scale then just drops down.....It's how I view it anyway, like the ONE X that was king once upon a time....Now that and with the X+ it's essentially great for a backup (Also the X+ is great for backup). But this is all my opinion on it all, everyone will have different takes on it so I don't want to force my view point. In a way though we are both right.
But hey my devices are a
Nokia 3310
HTC Desire C
X+
Find 5
all have their pro's and con's though more con's for the 1st two
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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That is very understandable. Different people look at different things differently. Depends on the user's perception because many would support your beliefs and many would mine as well. And we should expect that from a benchmark-hungry developer like you. Developments in technology open gates for you, so yes you should be craving for better devices now and then.
I feel ashamed, knowing the fact that i own more devices than you but am not really a developer. As they say, quantity deceives quality. BTW my old man still loves his Nokia 5190.
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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I used to have a lot more, but I sold them, including my Nexus 5 my One V HTC Desire HTC Wildfire ZTE BLADE Iphone 3gs to name a few victims in my quest for not being bored
Also benchmarks? PFFFT fcuk those, the real benchmarks come from using the device properly not from some stupid app(s)
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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Is it just me or do you really sound like a kid?
Haha, yes i mean "Power-hungry" by "benchmark" because that is exactly what keeps some people going!
Electronic hobbyists like me have entirely different tastes.
BTW, i just flashed your latest nightly yesternight and need to take my precious ass over that CM11 thread there to discuss some issues.
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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I'm a kid at heart and always will be, can't be doing with the whole growing up thing
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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So, how old are you and what are you doing professionally? Should never judge a book by it's cover - for both of us.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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28 and soon to be a Network/Computer security person.
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That is great. :good:
Just want you to know something. Don't always be so full of yourself and be nice to those who are nice to you.