I wonder after the newness wears off if I will still like the Gear S in a few months. - Samsung Gear S

I have 10 more days to decide if the Gear S is a keeper or not. I like it a lot but I'm just wondering if I will still like the watch after the newness wears off say in a few months. Also wondering how much I'll use it. The few issues I have with the watch are the battery dock is annoying to charge. imo It has a sweet spot but I can never find it. lol Also wish the watch had social apps like G+ and Hangouts. It's been years since I used a watch so I'm still getting use to that. It seems that the size of my wrist is in between notches. It's either a little to lose or to tight.

sweets55 said:
I have 10 more days to decide if the Gear S is a keeper or not. I like it a lot but I'm just wondering if I will still like the watch after the newness wears off say in a few months. Also wondering how much I'll use it. The few issues I have with the watch are the battery dock is annoying to charge. imo It has a sweet spot but I can never find it. lol Also wish the watch had social apps like G+ and Hangouts. It's been years since I used a watch so I'm still getting use to that. It seems that the size of my wrist is in between notches. It's either a little to lose or to tight.
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I feel u, but in IMO with future software updates to iron out the bugs, developers adding more of the more popular apps, the Gear S will only get better. I personally feel this is the future of the smart watch. With more ram, larger storage, same size or slimmer with longer battery life and replacement band with camera, it can be a true phone replacement.

sweets55 said:
I have 10 more days to decide if the Gear S is a keeper or not. I like it a lot but I'm just wondering if I will still like the watch after the newness wears off say in a few months. Also wondering how much I'll use it. The few issues I have with the watch are the battery dock is annoying to charge. imo It has a sweet spot but I can never find it. lol Also wish the watch had social apps like G+ and Hangouts. It's been years since I used a watch so I'm still getting use to that. It seems that the size of my wrist is in between notches. It's either a little to lose or to tight.
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You can always get a Moto 360. I am not sure I understand your question. Is there another smartwatch on the market that has the same features as the Gear S or in the foreseeable future?

cljack3 said:
You can always get a Moto 360. I am not sure I understand your question. Is there another smartwatch on the market that has the same features as the Gear S or in the foreseeable future?
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If I return my Gear S I doubt I'll get another watch.

those same concerns are what has kept me from pulling the trigger so far on this guy..
not wearing a watch for years makes it difficult for you to decide; for myself, I have worn large watches for many years, so at least that part of the decision isnt there for me. Like you said, just not sure that 3 months from now, I will still want to wear it every day...

I have the same thoughts. I think it will improve with either more OTAS and/or root. I do wonder if a better model in under a year will eclipse this one?

Always something better coming out but I kind of think the Gear S is ahead of it's time.

I like the Gear S design and believe it to be a well-done device. However... I disagree with others about the future of app support on the device. Samsung has tried the proprietary OS in the past with Bada and that never received a critical level of support. Furthermore the market is smaller than Android Wear and most developers report poor app sales at the moment. So while major stuff may eventually be ported, it currently is unlikely to be platform of choice for independents unless Samsung makes a new app challenge. (Many of the apps in the store now are from the original "Samsung Gear App Challenge" that brought the store from 300 to over 1,000 around that contest's deadline).
So... yeah... unless Samsung invests into further, likely not a future-proof device sadly but great to use for this moment.

there is no such thing as a future proof device...
and frankly, outside of more app support, which, the jury is still out on how much more you may want to do from a smart watch. that can be added to a device like this, imo..some might want a camera, but thats not important to me..
since i've seen how you can use this watch as a phone/text/music device without even having a samsung phone, once more folks realize that, it should increase its popularity. Especially considering that Android wear, at this point cant make calls, send emails, web surf, or really do much of anything besides implement a visual version of Google Now., and receive notifications.

wase4711 said:
Especially considering that Android wear, at this point cant make calls, send emails, web surf, or really do much of anything besides implement a visual version of Google Now., and receive notifications.
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Note that AW can receive AND reply to notifications. Something the Gear S cannot do in many cases.
I've been trialing a Gear S for several days and I posted my thoughts on AC.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=464763

It's unique is one reason why I am keeping it... I am going to post my Gear 2 on Craigs List and just stay with the Gear S...but the root and the Gear 2 made it better when I added the custom rom made for it...for Tizen made it a bit better so I will hold out hoping that comes to the Gear S

jlczl said:
Note that AW can receive AND reply to notifications. Something the Gear S cannot do in many cases.
I've been trialing a Gear S for several days and I posted my thoughts on AC.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=464763
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If you ordered online you wouldn't have to pay a restocking fee. I was lucky the manager said he would credit my account 25 for overnight shipping.

jlczl said:
Note that AW can receive AND reply to notifications. Something the Gear S cannot do in many cases.
I've been trialing a Gear S for several days and I posted my thoughts on AC.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=464763
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when exactly can a gear S NOT reply to a notification???

If root appears would you want to try a AW ROM

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when exactly can a gear S NOT reply to a notification???
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Hangouts (though an app to fix this called Notifications for Gear S is out), and all other 3rd party apps (IG, FB, GroupMe, etc.). Plus you can only dismiss emails, not delete them.

yeah, I know about hangouts, so I just use stock sms, which works perfectly..the other apps you mentioned arent important at all for me when I would be using the watch independently..
As far as not deleting emails on the phone, I dont want them to; the watch is only a "temp" way for me to deal with stuff; I prefer to decide once I get home/to the office on what to do with them..
here again, everyone uses technology differently; its great to have choices:good:

ronaldheld said:
If root appears would you want to try a AW ROM
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This is interesting. This was my first Gear so I'm not up to date with how much development previous Gears got. What are the chances of getting root and ROMs on it?

I am on day 4 with the Gear S and on the fence on whether to return it. I did get it at the store so I would have to eat the restocking fee of $50. I would rather lose $50 than have a $350 device that is put in a drawer. I have not worn a watch in years and I have found that the strap is very uncomfortable. The plastic band makes me sweat. I find the charging dock very difficult to attach to the watch. The other thing is the lack of apps for the device and I wonder how many will actually come out.

jlczl said:
This is interesting. This was my first Gear so I'm not up to date with how much development previous Gears got. What are the chances of getting root and ROMs on it?
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Good question; the Gear series has sold really well, but not sure what bringing root/roms would do to improve this device. Although, all things Samsung seem to be the favorite "brand" for all sorts of development.
paesan said:
I am on day 4 with the Gear S and on the fence on whether to return it. I did get it at the store so I would have to eat the restocking fee of $50. I would rather lose $50 than have a $350 device that is put in a drawer. I have not worn a watch in years and I have found that the strap is very uncomfortable. The plastic band makes me sweat. I find the charging dock very difficult to attach to the watch. The other thing is the lack of apps for the device and I wonder how many will actually come out.
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Understandable, as this watch is a tough one to make your "first" watch to wear, in many years..

wase4711 said:
Good question; the Gear series has sold really well, but not sure what bringing root/roms would do to improve this device. Although, all things Samsung seem to be the favorite "brand" for all sorts of development.
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Number 1 thing would be compatability with non Samsung apps so we could use Hangouts and Gmail as well as a multitude of 3rd party apps that the Gear S does not communicate with as well as AW does.
Number 2 would be 2 way communication between watch and phone. If something is deleted on the watch it would also be deleted on the phone and vice versa.
Number 3 would be full compatability with non Samsung phones.
Number 4 would be customization of battery saving features and other settings
Those are just off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure other people smarter than me could come up with even more.
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As far as not deleting emails on the phone, I dont want them to; the watch is only a "temp" way for me to deal with stuff; I prefer to decide once I get home/to the office on what to do with them..
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It would be great though if we had the option to just dismiss it or delete it. That's one of the things that irks me. Come on Samsung, gimme a choice at least.

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[Q] Thinking of buying a GT - Need candid assurance

I'm thinking of getting a GT and have done some research here and other sites. The more I read the more worried I'm becoming whether buying a GT is really a good idea.
My main concerns are the screen issues, newton rings, moisture under the screen, oil slicks, shaky or flickering screen, device not turning on or charging properly, etc.
As with all forums, it's always the problems that get highlighted so I'm finding it difficult to gauge how wide spread these problems are, i.e. do they only affect 1% of the GTs or is it more like 30%? Do Samsung acknowledge there is a screen problem?
I'd like some candid advice from owners whether they are completely happy with their GT and whether they would buy one again if they were buying now?
If it makes any difference I'd be buying the 16GB WiFi only model from the UK.
I am very happy with my wifi galaxy tab10.1. In my opinion this is the best tablet currently available in market.
And I would advice any of my friends to buy this only at this moment.
Regarding newton rings : its acknowledged by Samsung UK and is present in the FAQ system of their website
http://skp.samsungcsportal.com/integrated/popup/FaqDetailPopup.jsp?cdsite=uk&seq=408522
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I really like my tab, and haven't really had any problems. However, I did get some moisture under the screen after I left it laying outside on a hot day, but I just stuck it in the freezer and it went away .
Now, the decision of whether to get a GT... The main downfall is no external sd card (although this may not bother you). It's very thin, light, and looks good (+), but doesn't have the ports (like hdmi or usb) that other HC tabs have now (-). And, it's a bit more expensive than say a transformer, so you should take that into account too. My best advice would be to go somewhere like bestbuy and test them all out, then buy one on Amazon (generally cheaper).
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered about the lack of external connections as the tab will mainly be used for some web browsing and the odd e-mail. I do however want to root it.
I did also consider the Transformer but the newer serial numbers haven't been successfully rooted yet. TBH, if it was rooted I would probably go for the transformer as it's ~€100 cheaper than the GT and already has the HC3.2 upgrade.
I've had a play with both and liked both. I preferred the GT's physical aspects (size and weight) and am familiar with TW as I have a GS2 so it's my first choice.
My main issues are the screen problems. Would you say the problem exists in all GTs (i.e. design flaw) but only manifests themselves when exposed to higher temperatures or is it something that is affecting only a batch of devices (i.e. manufacturing flaw)? I know that's probably difficult to answer but I'd like to hear opinions none the less.
sunseaker said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm not too bothered about the lack of external connections as the tab will mainly be used for some web browsing and the odd e-mail. I do however want to root it.
I did also consider the Transformer but the newer serial numbers haven't been successfully rooted yet. TBH, if it was rooted I would probably go for the transformer as it's ~€100 cheaper than the GT and already has the HC3.2 upgrade.
I've had a play with both and liked both. I preferred the GT's physical aspects (size and weight) and am familiar with TW as I have a GS2 so it's my first choice.
My main issues are the screen problems. Would you say the problem exists in all GTs (i.e. design flaw) but only manifests themselves when exposed to higher temperatures or is it something that is affecting only a batch of devices (i.e. manufacturing flaw)? I know that's probably difficult to answer but I'd like to hear opinions none the less.
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Read the last 10 pages or more to get answers to some of your questions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130230
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ansonantonym said:
Read the last 10 pages or more to get answers to some of your questions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130230
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Thanks for the link. Well judging from that poll the problem seems to affect more than 50% of those that voted. It's not completely clear whether the problem has been fully resolved either. I've asked on that thread for people with screen replacements to say if the new screens have resolved the problem.
I would say i'm a basic user of my tab...i haven't rooted it as no idea how to go about doing that.
Overall for what I wanted it for, it's exceeded my expectations. I haven't encountered any issues with newton rings (touch wood) not lagging.
I have the 32gb wifi only version and I would suggest this is the optimum size. I feel the 16gb would be way too small.
Download dice player or another as this will play most files thrown at it. Also pay for the HDMI and USB adaptor to be able to watch on your TV or to transfer files. I've found this the easiest way to get files onto the tab rather than messing with Kies (don't go there) or using wifi explore options.
I wanted a tab for on the go, watching movies that i've downloaded without the need to convert (as with ipad). For this reason, it's a great tab, light and widescreen! Nice widgets and can customise the home screen. I'm sure I could get more use out of it, but I've come from apple products so new to android.
With the release of the TF2 coming nov 9th I'd definitely wait for that. If the Tegra 3 can run 1080p smoothly I'm making the switch over.
i have the 16gb metallic grey for 3 weeks now. I live in canada, i work as a real estate broker and am using the tab a lot, especially outside.
Here is fall season, temperatures are getting colder. I didnt have any problems with my screen. I really like my tab.
At first, i wanted to wait for TF2, but since they never said the exact date it would be release and that i was waiting since august, i bought the Galaxy 10.1 and i have nothing bad to say.
The only thing (as stated by others) the lack of sd/usb/hdmi slot turn me down a bit but u can fix that easy with thoses 2 : http://www.amazon.ca/Samsung-Galaxy...GY7Y/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1320212663&sr=8-7
and http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/...etail&subsubtype=others-multimedia&returnurl=
I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
slack04 said:
I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
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Oh wow that's very helpful and original.
I don't have 500 bucks to throw at a device that may have a design flaw nor the time to chase around getting it repaired because of persistent problems and so was trying to gauge the reliability of the device and extent of any problems.
You obviously have too much time if you can write all that dribble. If you don't like the topic don't read it.
slack04 said:
I'd wait if I was you. The GT10 is not perfect. Sometimes they have defects (gasp!). And then when you call customer service--they don't even speak the same language and they ask you questions! Can you imagine being asked questions! It's terrible! It's like they're saying "I hate your stupid face." when they ask you to "press the power button and tell me what happens." And performance? Well, it's good, but as soon as something new comes out it will totally suck. Like "wow, how did I ever use that" sucking. It will be abysmally bad! Everyone will laugh at you.
At some point, they will make a perfect piece of technology, then you won't need to ask because it will be perfect. Also, I think you should wait to breathe until the air is perfect. Hold your breath and I will tell you when it's time to breathe.
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Dude, there will always be something better coming out, if he wait for that "perfect" product, well he will never buy something.
I didnt want to spoil my money either. Here in canada, with a 3yr sim card data plan, i got a discount and my tab cost me 350$.
Before taking my decision, I've looked at almost all review on the web, went to stores and played with all the tabs.
At the end, it will be a personnal decision. Think about ur needs, no product is perfect, it might defect, thats why u get a warranty when u buy it. For me that was another reason not to buy online, just in case i need service on the tab.
Now for the reliability, since we live in differents parts of the world, i guess nobody can give you a 100% advice about it.
For my two cents, I love my Tab, think it is definitely with getting the 32 GB version, and was unlucky enough to have a problem with the charging connecter breaking. I bought it on Craigslist like-new, but didn't have a receipt. I called Samsung in the middle of the night (24 hour support), and was able to get everything taken care of. It took five minutes, at 1 am Pacific time, speaking to someone with an American accent. They sent me a return label, so I didn't pay a penny to get it repaired, even without proof of purchase. Got it back today, two weeks later. Impressive.
I've got to say, I work with a fair amount of tech support for my job as an audio engineer, and am always amazed with how much better support I get from dealing with companies like Allen & Heath through my work, because we have pro accounts with them all. Samsung was nearly on par with them. That's saying something if you ask me.
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Bought the 3G 16 GB version and love it.
The USB adaptor was included free in the box.
This beauty is the next best thing after my wife and kid
16 GB is more than enough, as USB works fine, and if you need extra space there is always the GoFlex Satellite with 500 GB. I think buying 32 GB does not make any sense.
Got also the Logitech Tablet Keyboard for Android 3.0+ and together with the tab it's a killer combo
So if you are really interested in getting a tab, I would go all out for it
Ok, kinda stupid question, but here it goes:
I have played around with the black version of 10.1 16GB 3g version and the back plastic has a somewhat "rubbery feel". What I want to know is whether the white one has the same feeling or it is glossy and "shiny"... Well Iam ordering tomorrow and want to know please! Thanks!
I was going to make my own thread regarding the GT10.1 before buying one, but thought I would just post it in here:
My question is currently from what I know with stock you have to use Kies to transfer data/backup. With a custom ROM does still happen or can I just use it as a mass storage like all android phones?
I planned on getting a 32gb, but don't know if that is the smart choice. With all kinds of cloud and online storage is 32gb even needed? I know it has no expansion on the device itself.
Lastly, one of my reasons for getting a tablet is for reading all my ebooks and especially PDFs, how well do these look on the 10.1?
Panos_dm said:
Ok, kinda stupid question, but here it goes:
I have played around with the black version of 10.1 16GB 3g version and the back plastic has a somewhat "rubbery feel". What I want to know is whether the white one has the same feeling or it is glossy and "shiny"... Well Iam ordering tomorrow and want to know please! Thanks!
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Its glossy and shiny in US
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AODfan said:
I was going to make my own thread regarding the GT10.1 before buying one, but thought I would just post it in here:
My question is currently from what I know with stock you have to use Kies to transfer data/backup. With a custom ROM does still happen or can I just use it as a mass storage like all android phones?
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Since the source hasn't been released, the roms aren't exactly custom but modified stock ones. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). So they work with kies.
@ansonantonym: thanks
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Panos_dm said:
Since the source hasn't been released, the roms aren't exactly custom but modified stock ones. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). So they work with kies.
@ansonantonym: thanks
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So, basically all the owners of a Galaxy Tab have to go the route of Kies to do any kind of data transfer(From PC). Fun.
AODfan said:
So, basically all the owners of a Galaxy Tab have to go the route of Kies to do any kind of data transfer(From PC). Fun.
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Well, if indeed I am correct, yes. BUT you can also use dropbox or sent an email to the account that is linked to the tab containing the data. And there is always the option of buying the USB adaptor... Ok I admit that as far as connectivity is concerned, Samsung behaves like Apple but imo what sucks about Apple is not the hardware but the software.
Off topic:
Lets hope that Samsung delivers ICS as well, thus giving us Apple like support!
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Well I've had it with this failure tab

Now this useless tablet has decided out of thin air that as soon as I turn of the screen it disconnects from the wifi....
The settings are as day one, never disconnect. I moved away from the ipad's "control" overme just go end up with an android tab that tells me when itsgoing to connectand when it wont.. no thanks sony.
Galaxy tab here I come! So ny, here's you tab back, i'll take my money back thanks.
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Now this useless tablet has decided out of thin air that as soon as I turn of the screen it disconnects from the wifi....
The settings are as day one, never disconnect. I moved away from the ipad's "control" overme just go end up with an android tab that tells me when itsgoing to connectand when it wont.. no thanks sony.
Galaxy tab here I come! So ny, here's you tab back, i'll take my money back thanks.
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lol. thanks for letting the general public know you're no good with android. good luck with the next android device. it has a bigger screen and lags more than the sony without rooting and romming. should solve all your problems. cheers!
pcoulson said:
lol. thanks for letting the general public know you're no good with android. good luck with the next android device. it has a bigger screen and lags more than the sony without rooting and romming. should solve all your problems. cheers!
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Typical response. Dont dirty androids name with sony failure. My sister has a galaxy tab and its waaay better than this piece of crap
lets just close this thread..
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xperiax10.awesome said:
lets just close this thread..
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Good idea. This is better off as a singular opinion sub forum.
Samsung tablets suck in general.
Poor assembly.
Sony rules.
If nothing else because of the IR remote control.
Maine_Coon said:
Samsung tablets suck in general.
Poor assembly.
Sony rules.
If nothing else because of the IR remote control.
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Samsung tabs outsell sony tab by what, 100 to 1? lol. Sony rules? Google "sony tabler S wifi problem"... Have fun with that.
@BeamMeUpStreaky and all the others
- you can solve the "wifi/screen off/disconnect" problem installing ADVANCED WIFI LOCK app.... I use the free version and works like a charm
- don't forget, you have a Market... use it
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
Samsung tabs outsell sony tab by what, 100 to 1? lol. Sony rules? Google "sony tabler S wifi problem"... Have fun with that.
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Have fun w/ your new Samsung tablet, what can I say.
lol, if you're to pick any alternative, samsung is not the way to go...xoom is way better; the fact remains that the sony tablet s is still the best android tablet performance wise....response is marvelous..and the IR is a huge plus
pocanitu said:
@BeamMeUpStreaky and all the others
- you can solve the "wifi/screen off/disconnect" problem installing ADVANCED WIFI LOCK app.... I use the free version and works like a charm
- don't forget, you have a Market... use it
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Thank you, but the problem is the faulty tablet. Android provides for a fulltime wifi connection and the tablet did perform as such for a few days... until the tablet could no longer perform the simple task of keeping the connection going with the screen off. My sister galaxy tab has never once faild to be connected to wifi when she turns on the screen, regardless of how long she had the screen off. All she did was select "never" as i did in wifi settings
alizawi said:
lol, if you're to pick any alternative, samsung is not the way to go...xoom is way better; the fact remains that the sony tablet s is still the best android tablet performance wise....response is marvelous..and the IR is a huge plus
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I couldnt care less aboit the ir frankly, im not into ps3 or other sony junk. Glad you like it, just dont do a google search on what everyone else thinks lol.
BeamMeUpStreaky said:
I couldnt care less aboit the ir frankly, im not into ps3 or other sony junk. Glad you like it, just dont do a google search on what everyone else thinks lol.
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Funny but PS3 does not have the IR connector, BT-only.
Like I said, good luck w/Samsung and sorry for the inconvinience.
Tablet S does have faults. Mostly because there is no root so far and the external SD cannot be used the way regular Android tablets use it.
Other than that, it is a very good tablet price/performance/features taken into consideration.
Frankly, I do not understand why do you keep posting here.
You're right lol.. obvious waste of my time as Im not a conformist Bushbot. Ciao
Funny how everyone keeps defending it and carrying on like you're a twat cause you don't go out of your way to find work-arounds for a staple feature. If someone bought a car and the seat belts didn't work properly, would you become irritated and tell them to stop complaining, and that they should just install some 3rd party parts themselves?
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Funny how everyone keeps defending it and carrying on like you're a twat cause you don't go out of your way to find work-arounds for a staple feature. If someone bought a car and the seat belts didn't work properly, would you become irritated and tell them to stop complaining, and that they should just install some 3rd party parts themselves?
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Hey Dan ;-)
the tablet could catch on fire in the night from a faulty power supply and they would blame me for not being an electrcien/fireman.
Kinda like how Elizabeth Hasselbeck still sticks up for george W, they stick up for their tablet. I find that so odd because I love my bmw but when people tell bad experiences they may have had with one, I dont go bushbot on them.
Seriously guys we really need to stop with these pointless arguments. If you like Sony then good for you and if you like Samsung then that's absolutely fine. Everyone has their own opinion and you can't go around preaching how your way is the only way. I get it I just purchased the Sony Tablet S about 3 weeks ago and I love the design of it (Sony's design is seriously above and beyond) but it does have its downfalls. I have learned to deal with them through third party apps but I don't expect everyone to want to do what I did to get the tablet to do what a normal Android tablet should do right out of the box. I love this tablet even with its flaws and I know a good amount of the people in this forum do too but don't expect Streaky to feel the same way. Then again, Streaky, you should have expected these types of reactions since you are in the Sony tablet forums. I mean try going to the Rolex forums and telling them about some flaws on their watches and you'll raise hell Anyways I hope we get root soon so I can see about customizing my Tablet S. Streaky, I hope you're happy with the Galaxy Tab just make sure you don't need a tablet with a microsd slot. I might be getting one for my gf for Valentine's Day
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Seriously guys we really need to stop with these pointless arguments. If you like Sony then good for you and if you like Samsung then that's absolutely fine. Everyone has their own opinion and you can't go around preaching how your way is the only way. I get it I just purchased the Sony Tablet S about 3 weeks ago and I love the design of it (Sony's design is seriously above and beyond) but it does have its downfalls. I have learned to deal with them through third party apps but I don't expect everyone to want to do what I did to get the tablet to do what a normal Android tablet should do right out of the box. I love this tablet even with its flaws and I know a good amount of the people in this forum do too but don't expect Streaky to feel the same way. Then again, Streaky, you should have expected these types of reactions since you are in the Sony tablet forums. I mean try going to the Rolex forums and telling them about some flaws on their watches and you'll raise hell Anyways I hope we get root soon so I can see about customizing my Tablet S. Streaky, I hope you're happy with the Galaxy Tab just make sure you don't need a tablet with a microsd slot. I might be getting one for my gf for Valentine's Day
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Im sure your gf will be realky happy with you Everything you said makes sense to me. Im off to bed.
I wonder whether u have a faulty unit. My 16gb used.to do this. WiFi always on was selected, yet when tablet screen was off, I never used to get my emails (not until screen was put on again). I exchanged and opted for a unit out of the 32gb batch in hope that problem would not be present. It was gone! Now, when screen is off and WiFi always on is.selected, I get the blinding green LED light indicating to me when emails have arrived. Try exchange maybe.
You mention the Samsung tab as replacement. I'm not sure whether u mean the old one or the new tab plus. I can comment on the new tab plus (as an ex-owner). In my honest opinion (since this thread seems to be just about stating opinion ), you'll likely find that in comparison, the IR function on Samsung tab plus is inferior. It offers only limited functions, it is difficult to angle correctly and cannot learn new commands like Sony S. If u have a VCR, sadly you will not be able to control it with the Sammy tab. Mini apps looks great ( Pop up apps), but it cannot be customized; you have to stick with what Samsung think you might use most - e.g the world clock app (??!). On Sony and HTC, you can customize for apps you use most to be on homescreen
Also, there will be accidental pressing of power button frequently, overheating, screen of deaths. Look at the most populated threads on Sammy tab 7 Plus forum. I had 3 tablets, Sony S, Sammy 7 Plus and HTC Flyer. I sold on the Sammy 7 plus and kept the other two. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for Samsung and their products - very proud owner of SGS2. However, the tablet experience was a let down. IMO, I think that part of the major delay with Sammy 7.7 getting on shelves (apart from avoiding Apple Lawsuits), is to engineer a model that customers will be happier with.
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I wonder whether u have a faulty unit. My 16gb used.to do this. WiFi always on was selected, yet when tablet screen was off, I never used to get my emails (not until screen was put on again). I exchanged and opted for a unit out of the 32gb batch in hope that problem would not be present. It was gone! Now, when screen is off and WiFi always on is.selected, I get the blinding green LED light indicating to me when emails have arrived. Try exchange maybe.
You mention the Samsung tab as replacement. I'm not sure whether u mean the old one or the new tab plus. I can comment on the new tab plus (as an ex-owner). In my honest opinion (since this thread seems to be just about stating opinion ), you'll likely find that in comparison, the IR function on Samsung tab plus is inferior. It offers only limited functions, it is difficult to angle correctly and cannot learn new commands like Sony S. If u have a VCR, sadly you will not be able to control it with the Sammy tab. Mini apps looks great ( Pop up apps), but it cannot be customized; you have to stick with what Samsung think you might use most - e.g the world clock app (??!). On Sony and HTC, you can customize for apps you use most to be on homescreen
Also, there will be accidental pressing of power button frequently, overheating, screen of deaths. Look at the most populated threads on Sammy tab 7 Plus forum. I had 3 tablets, Sony S, Sammy 7 Plus and HTC Flyer. I sold on the Sammy 7 plus and kept the other two. Don't get me wrong, I have respect for Samsung and their products - very proud owner of SGS2. However, the tablet experience was a let down. IMO, I think that part of the major delay with Sammy 7.7 getting on shelves (apart from avoiding Apple Lawsuits), is to engineer a model that customers will be happier with.
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As I have clearly said, I couldnt care less about ir. I have zero plans to be pointing a 7-10 inch device at my tv or anything else. Unless you have used the new samsung 7.7 amoled, you cant speak from experience.
If samsung is holding back on it to as you say make something that customers wouldbe happy with, perhaps sony should have done the same and backed off until they had a real sdcard slot and a wifi that didnt create what my friend at dell canada calls a 44% return rate....
There is a reason that I dont know a single person with a single sony device. Samsung has pounded them into the ground on tv, cell phones and music players. Its easy to find the numbers (google).
im glad that you didnt mind having to try twice to get a sony tab that could perform like the other tabs, I frankly like things to do what they are supposed to do the first time the last time and all the times in between. Not a fan of exchange it until you get on that works. That on encourages inferior companies like sony to push out junk.
I know I will be very pleased looking at my 64gb super amoled screened tab with an amazing ppi, 170 viewing angle. The best part is, samsung tabs dont need to go to thegarage 10 times aweek to get the wifi to work. My sister has had a 10, and she nows has the7... never a single issue with either.
Again, just so that im clear: I would never and will never care about ir on a tablet. Its not what a tablet is for. Its just. Poorly implemented gimmick.

This is badass

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/597507018/pebble-e-paper-watch-for-iphone-and-android
Wat u think, worth $115?
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i was looking at one of those yesterday. want.
Been a backer since they only had $30K on the clock
can't wait to get mine
To be honest it looks horrible to me.
i saw something like that a while back. it was all touch screen and a bit thicker, it was also around the same price. however i think this pebble looks better, not sure if its worth 100+ bones though. i could see myself throwing 75 or so at it.
kinda ugly lol... just cause it can work with android doesn't mean it worth it guys
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kinda ugly lol... just cause it can work with android doesn't mean it worth it guys
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i want one, but i will likely wait for a generation or two. i think this market is about to explode.
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i want one, but i will likely wait for a generation or two. i think this market is about to explode.
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i can agree with you on that and i may get one eventually
Right when I saw Eric: I said no. Just no.
Kinda cool. Wonder how hot it gets?
I have never payed more than $30 for a watch. Why do I need one with apps or customizable display. That's what I have an Android phone for. I mean unless they eventually turn this into an actual wrist phone, I don't see myself ever being interested.
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Seems excessive and gimmicky. It's like having a cell phone for my cell phone. Why mount this watch on my bicycle when I can just mount my cell phone on my bicycle? Waste of money in my eyes.
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I'm already a backer, can't wait to get one.
I won't lie, it's a niche accessory and a little pricey.
But i think we might find some really novel uses for this.
and if they become popular prices could drop for similar
watches in the future.
I really have no use for one even though I'm a huge gadget freak. I'll admit it would be cool to have but it'll probably be one of those things where the novelty runs out quickly and after like a month or two you'll be like why did I buy this? I can't even imagine trying to type on that thing.
Honestly, I think I would take the MotoActv over the Pebble. MotoActv runs a full Android OS, and has better integration with Android phones and more features overall than the Pebble watch does.
It'd be nice if it also integrated with wireless heart rate monitors (common for runners). My fiance has the monitor and it comes with its own watch, but its entirely observational - has no recording capability. Since this thing connects to your phone, it could store your exercise stats in an app.
But thats IF it could connect to both your phone and heart rate monitor simultaneously. I wish the monitor would connect to the phone, but no app available and pretty sure its RF instead of bluetooth.
ooooooo. i need the red one.
Dumbest thing ever
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Honestly, I think I would take the MotoActv over the Pebble. MotoActv runs a full Android OS, and has better integration with Android phones and more features overall than the Pebble watch does.
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Inb4 MotoActv has a locked bootloader! It's all fancy crap we don't need, but want for the lols.
Ye I thought about it and ist not worth $120
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Does anyone have an idea of how many AW watches have been sold so far for Samsung and LG?
The AW app still only has 50-100k downloads in the Play store and I know plenty of people are waiting for future watches etc but, I'm really concerned they won't be a success as I'm really enjoying mine.
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Does anyone have an idea of how many AW watches have been sold so far for Samsung and LG?
The AW app still only has 50-100k downloads in the Play store and I know plenty of people are waiting for future watches etc but, I'm really concerned they won't be a success as I'm really enjoying mine.
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I enjoy my watch too. Unfortunately it seems like all the reviews that I have read about the watches are negative. The two biggest things that bug me are the complaints on battery life and how "useless it is." Why is it such a big deal to charge your watch every night when you charge your phone every night. When you sit in an office you probably have your phone on your desk and it is easy to check it. I am an electrician apprentice and i love being able to look at my watch for the information rather then pulling out my phone. When I am sitting in school I don't use it as much. I use it for navigation when I am driving to a new job site and don't know where it is. If something is on my mind then I can just tell it to remind me later. I have also seen a few videos of people controlling lights in their house. I am interested in learning how to do that or using it as my key to get into my house. Smart phones can already be used as a key so it is only a matter of time for the watch? I love it and i love the potential that it has.
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I enjoy my watch too. Unfortunately it seems like all the reviews that I have read about the watches are negative. The two biggest things that bug me are the complaints on battery life and how "useless it is." Why is it such a big deal to charge your watch every night when you charge your phone every night. When you sit in an office you probably have your phone on your desk and it is easy to check it. I am an electrician apprentice and i love being able to look at my watch for the information rather then pulling out my phone. When I am sitting in school I don't use it as much. I use it for navigation when I am driving to a new job site and don't know where it is. If something is on my mind then I can just tell it to remind me later. I have also seen a few videos of people controlling lights in their house. I am interested in learning how to do that or using it as my key to get into my house. Smart phones can already be used as a key so it is only a matter of time for the watch? I love it and i love the potential that it has.
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I wouldn't mind a bit of automation myself. For now it's mainly walking navigation, music, and sending quick messages for me.
I hope more people buy into it before Google lose interest in supporting them. My thinking is that when Apple bring theirs out people will become more aware of smart watches and that's when AW interest might pick up. I've noticed the app development has been much better than when Pebble was released so that's a good sign.
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I have also seen a few videos of people controlling lights in their house. I am interested in learning how to do that or using it as my key to get into my house. Smart phones can already be used as a key so it is only a matter of time for the watch? I love it and i love the potential that it has.
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A great app to control your house is IFTTT. For lights you can use it with Philips Hue or Belkin WeMo. For locks you can integrate it with SmartThings. Once its setup you can open the app on your watch and swipe through the different triggers.
I got mine Saturday from best buy...when I first asked her she said they hadn't got any in yet...turns out they had two. Many folks are still waiting to get their device.
I think it's a bit early to be worried about the platform being abandoned.
Google has already said when L comes out they will be providing much more API access.
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I got mine Saturday from best buy...when I first asked her she said they hadn't got any in yet...turns out they had two. Many folks are still waiting to get their device.
I think it's a bit early to be worried about the platform being abandoned.
Google has already said when L comes out they will be providing much more API access.
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I can't wait till that happens. I'm eager to see where they take it

Leatherman to release watchband

I have no idea how this could work with Gear S, but I'd love it if I could use this thing with my Gear S.
http://www.leatherman.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-leatherman-Site/en_US/Blog-ShowPost/?p=705
Randull said:
I have no idea how this could work with Gear S, but I'd love it if I could use this thing with my Gear S.
http://www.leatherman.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-leatherman-Site/en_US/Blog-ShowPost/?p=705
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From what I can tell, there is a bracelet-only version as well as a watch/bracelet combo version of this new Leatherman. It's not a smart bracelet or anything though, so I don't see any possible way for it to work or interact with a Gear S, unless you can maybe figure out a way to physically attach the Gear S to the Leatherman bracelet (which could be very cool!)
sefrcoko said:
From what I can tell, there is a bracelet-only version as well as a watch/bracelet combo version of this new Leatherman. It's not a smart bracelet or anything though, so I don't see any possible way for it to work or interact with a Gear S, unless you can maybe figure out a way to physically attach the Gear S to the Leatherman bracelet (which could be very cool!)
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Awesomely, wickedly, cool. . . if you were 13 years old!
esseff said:
Awesomely, wickedly, cool. . . if you were 13 years old!
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I'm not really sure what you mean unless you were just trolling. Leatherman is a well known and highly regarded product for outdoorsmen, campers, etc. Now they have a version of the tool that fits on your wrist. Someone asked a question and an answer was given. I personally have no need for the tool, but can see how Leatherman fans might love this. Sarcastic comments are a little childish. This tool is for adults
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From what I can tell, there is a bracelet-only version as well as a watch/bracelet combo version of this new Leatherman. It's not a smart bracelet or anything though, so I don't see any possible way for it to work or interact with a Gear S, unless you can maybe figure out a way to physically attach the Gear S to the Leatherman bracelet (which could be very cool!)
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I'm hoping something like the Custom Band Project http://forum.xda-developers.com/gear-s/accessories/custom-band-attachment-project-standard-t2963105 will make these things compatible. If that's not a possibility I'm sure eventually somebody will make a knock-off product that works with different watch types. I feel like it's just a smart idea to make the strap useful rather than just taking up weight and space on your wrist. On the youtube video they posted there were lots of comments about the compatibility with other smartwatches so it seems like there is demand there for a universal solution.
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Awesomely, wickedly, cool. . . if you were 13 years old!
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I'm curious just what makes this seem like something a 13 year old would want, and why you say that like teenagers can't make informed purchasing decisions. Do 13 year olds even carry around tools? What would you prefer to keep your watch attached to your wrist?

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