Nexus 6 case and holster! - Nexus 6 Accessories

Hey folks! I'm using a N6 and have fallen quite in love with this case I peeped, especially the white one, problem is it'd not available yet it seems
Do you guys know of any sweet cases that follow the same style and protection?
In addition I'm quite partial to holsters so would you guys also know of any holsters big enough to 'roomily or cozily' hold a Nexus 6 with such a case attached?
http://www.rearthusa.com/Nexus-Case...archPage=1&searchRank=salesrank&searchSize=12
You got to admit it's a petty sharp looking case especially for the cloud white,
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dynamo147 said:
Hey folks! I'm using a N6 and have fallen quite in love with this case I peeped, especially the white one, problem is it'd not available yet it seems
Do you guys know of any sweet cases that follow the same style and protection?
In addition I'm quite partial to holsters so would you guys also know of any holsters big enough to 'roomily or cozily' hold a Nexus 6 with such a case attached?
http://www.rearthusa.com/Nexus-Case...archPage=1&searchRank=salesrank&searchSize=12
You got to admit it's a petty sharp looking case especially for the cloud white,
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A quick search of Amazon shows it will ship on 12/6. That took me as much time as it must of taken you to type the bump post above. I hope this helps:
http://www.amazon.com/Free-Screen-P...qid=1417544468&sr=8-3&keywords=ringke+nexus+6

Unfortunately noooo it doesn't, I said above that it's not available yet. I was asking for other cases of the same style that arrrre available.
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Unfortunately noooo it doesn't, I said above that it's not available yet. I was asking for other cases of the same style that arrrre available.
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It will be available this Saturday 12/6 in black and white, and the gunmetal is available 12/16. Is that too long of a wait? I'm not sure how fast they ship via amazon but that's not too far away.

Mmm well yeah I suppose it isn't that long a wait... I'd get it by next week Friday at the latest but Id be a lot happier with some kind of phone protection in the meantime and when the rearth comes in I'd go ahead and see which I prefer and have the other as a back up our something
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wait so i'm confused. does this case come with a holster as well?

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Mmm well yeah I suppose it isn't that long a wait... I'd get it by next week Friday at the latest but Id be a lot happier with some kind of phone protection in the meantime and when the rearth comes in I'd go ahead and see which I prefer and have the other as a back up our something
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Get a TPU case I love mine. I have a TUDIA and some Cruzerlite ones. Diztronic is also nice from what I hear. It will give you a slimmer option for when you don't need a massive case.

Na it doesn't, I've seen a few on amazon that come with a belt clip though
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dynamo147 said:
Hey folks! I'm using a N6 and have fallen quite in love with this case I peeped, especially the white one, problem is it'd not available yet it seems
Do you guys know of any sweet cases that follow the same style and protection?
In addition I'm quite partial to holsters so would you guys also know of any holsters big enough to 'roomily or cozily' hold a Nexus 6 with such a case attached?
http://www.rearthusa.com/Nexus-Case...archPage=1&searchRank=salesrank&searchSize=12
You got to admit it's a petty sharp looking case especially for the cloud white,
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O153MUK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
There ya go, by ringke. Same design/style, but in clear. I should have mine mañana. Unsure about colors but you can check it out for yourself.
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Oooo cruzerlite is a strong band too, plus I always felt that tpu is some good protection
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Hey nice find lets the 6 show off all its good looking glory
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Oooo cruzerlite is a strong band too, plus I always felt that tpu is some good protection
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I have 3 Cruzerlite TPU cases for my Nexus and they are great!! Check out the Cruzerlite OP for more info and pictures.
I like the look of the clear case someone posted so you can show off the Nexus with protection.

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Seidio Active with kickstand combo (updated)

Just ordered 2 of these bad boys for my gnex and note, can anyone share pros/cons?
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So they finally arrived and I couldn't be any happier!
My first impression with both cases and holsters is that they're perfect, they're totally what I wanted. Rugged, easy, and cool.
Some pics of the gnex first and the note will follow. Took some outside shots from my balcony on the 3rd floor.
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This thread should help you a little with opinions, mate
Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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Anytime mate.
They are a good-quality case, I don't think you'll be disappointed
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Awesome, thanks man! Seems to be a good product, never tried Seidio before and I'm pretty excited about these cases
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Ever use the Platinum Cases from Best Buy?
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Nope, I've scoured a few Best Buys here in Vancouver and they don't have much for the note. Only saw a gel type case which won't do it for me so I decided to look online
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Nope, I've scoured a few Best Buys here in Vancouver and they don't have much for the note. Only saw a gel type case which won't do it for me so I decided to look online
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Reason I asked is from what I understand, Seidio makes the Platinum Cases for Best Buy. That'll give you a good look at what the Sedio will be like.
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Cool thanks, haven't had a chance to see the Platinum cases in person but my Seidios should be coming soon
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I had a Seidio Active case on my Skyrocket. Personally, I think it's the absolute best compromise there is for size vs. protection. For the Skyrocket, I used it as my everyday case. I just ordered one for my Note.
My only complaint is that the rubber is a little too grippy, which makes it a slightly harder to get in and out of pockets than a tpu case. And it will collect lint. The one for my Skyrocket got better the more I used it though.
Nice, glad to hear ur getting good use out of it. I rocked the otterbox commuter on my gnex for a long while and the rubber part definitely collects lint. Microfiber cloth once in awhile cleans it up pretty well. I'm definitely interested in seeing how the rubber from the active compares to the commuter
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The Seidio Active will be half the size of the Otterbox products.
Just received mine and I love it!! Kickstand is nice and sturdy and easily goes in and out of my pocket..
Now I just gotta get the holster and im set!!
Cool, I'm looking forward to using the kickstand too. I'm not a fan of docks and the kickstand will be nice for laying it sideways upright on the desk for sure
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I received mine and I like it. I just wish the entire kickstand was metal instead of plastic.
How does it hold up so far webdave? Does it feel flimsy or like it won't last long?
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How does it hold up so far webdave? Does it feel flimsy or like it won't last long?
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I actually decided to return the case for a few reasons.
1. The kickstand feels cheap. It is a very light plastic with a small magnet embedded on one side of it. I like how the magnet makes it snap into place but it feels like it could easily snap off when open.
2. I don't like the ridges on the soft silicone. It makes it too difficult for me to remove from a pocket.
MrDSL said:
Just received mine and I love it!! Kickstand is nice and sturdy and easily goes in and out of my pocket..
Now I just gotta get the holster and im set!!
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hey man, nice to see you here..I loved your stuff from the evo days..
I have a new kraaken which is too bulky for me, so I am gonna sell it;
ordered this guy yesterday, so glad to hear its a bit less bulky than the Trident Kraaken..
enter this coupon code on the seidio website for 15% off "SHOW2012"
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enter this coupon code on the seidio website for 15% off "SHOW2012"
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where were you last night when I paid full price for this thing!!
wase4711 said:
where were you last night when I paid full price for this thing!!
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LOL sorry! i just saw it today. i actually ordered mine of amazon just now and it still was a couple bucks cheaper than the seidio website with the discount. shipping price may differ tho.

Baseus yuppie - Replacement Cover

Searching eBay I came across these replacement back covers
Purchased from eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271287555...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
http://www.baseus.com/en/index.php?m=News&a=detail&item=279
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I've ordered a black and orange one, never heard of them before and don't know what the quality is like, but for a fiver can't really grumble if they turn out to be cheap. Will add more of a review when I get it in hand to use.
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Like to know how the leather is on these
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The metal accents might interfere with the antenna system.
oneandroidnut said:
Like to know how the leather is on these
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It still looks like plastic stamped with a leather pattern, of course.
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I'll bet the metal strips are cheaply put on there and will fall off
gnik luap said:
It still looks like plastic stamped with a leather pattern, of course.
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It says leather in the description, they look kinda cool, I'd like to know the op's experience when he gets it
vtjay said:
It says leather in the description, they look kinda cool, I'd like to know the op's experience when he gets it
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The description says pu leather, that's polyurethane leather, also known as "pleather". Another way to say fake leather made from a plastic material.
It might not look bad in person, and given how thin it will be it's probably more protection than real leather.
I don't really mind that most phone accessories aren't real leather, but I do wish the sellers would say "leather-look" instead of leather.
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gnik luap said:
The description says pu leather, that's polyurethane leather, also known as "pleather". Another way to say fake leather made from a plastic material.
It might not look bad in person, and given how thin it will be it's probably more protection than real leather.
I don't really mind that most phone accessories aren't real leather, but I do wish the sellers would say "leather-look" instead of leather.
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Lol, probably should have read the whole thing, I wouldn't buy something like this without other reviews. I wish someone would make a carbon fiber back for it, that'd be sweet
vtjay said:
Lol, probably should have read the whole thing, I wouldn't buy something like this without other reviews. I wish someone would make a carbon fiber back for it, that'd be sweet
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I'm sure that dBrands will make a vinyl skin that looks like carbon fiber and improves the grip. They have great reviews for all their skins on the Nexus 4 thread. No impact protection of course but excellent scuff/scratch protection, easier to grip, and good looking.
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gnik luap said:
I'm sure that dBrands will make a vinyl skin that looks like carbon fiber and improves the grip. They have great reviews for all their skins on the Nexus 4 thread. No impact protection of course but excellent scuff/scratch protection, easier to grip, and good looking.
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Huh, I'll check them out, thanks
vtjay said:
Lol, probably should have read the whole thing, I wouldn't buy something like this without other reviews. I wish someone would make a carbon fiber back for it, that'd be sweet
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I recall someone in the forums of one of the older phones I owned, might have even been the Note 2, got some 3M type carbon fibre vinyl sticker, of sorts, and covered the stock cover with the stuff. Looked pretty sweet, not sure how well it would work on the Note 3 cover considering it has that fake stitching, but if you could find some cheap enough, it could be worth a go. What have you got to loose?
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from china. back cover look like note 3 pu material. Malaysia sell at Rm50 around $16
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Does it only allow you to order in whatever language that is?
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nespid said:
Does it only allow you to order in whatever language that is?
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I'll post the eBay link for you, I'll update the opening post too.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271287555...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Cost £4.99, I've bought an orange one and a black one. Won't be here until mid October at the earliest, if the listing is anything to go by.
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I don't see a speaker cutout in these covers
But check this one out
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-3031584880.14.yfjMWq&id=20026201809
djpaul said:
I don't see a speaker cutout in these covers
But check this one out
http://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-3031584880.14.yfjMWq&id=20026201809
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The Speaker is on the bottom of the phone.
my Baseus Yuppie......
Just got mine today. Overall i'll say it's ok. The quality of the cover feels a little more plastic as compared to the original but once you snap it onto the N3, you can't really tell cos it's fits very well. The one plus point about this cover compared to the original is that it does not get any finger prints and does not feel oily. The textured surface is just right IMO. Does not feel too rough. Attached some pictures for those interested.
Scann69 said:
Just got mine today. Overall i'll say it's ok. The quality of the cover feels a little more plastic as compared to the original but once you snap it onto the N3, you can't really tell cos it's fits very well. The one plus point about this cover compared to the original is that it does not get any finger prints and does not feel oily. The textured surface is just right IMO. Does not feel too rough. Attached some pictures for those interested.
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Body hell, when did you order yours? no sight of mine yet!
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I accidentally walked into a retail store that was selling it
Scann69 said:
I accidentally walked into a retail store that was selling it
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Really, I've never seen any accessories for anything other than iPhones in the shops here in the U.K., it's like hunting for hens teeth!
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tech21 "orange strip edge" case

I bought it along with my Note 3 (N900T) because this is the only case I found at T-Mobile store, but I found it fits pretty well and the buttons aren't that hard to be pressed.
Did anybody else buy this case and how do you like/dislike it?
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I bought it along with my Note 3 (N900T) because this is the only case I found at T-Mobile store, but I found it fits pretty well and the buttons aren't that hard to be pressed.
Did anybody else buy this case and how do you like/dislike it?
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no pics......
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There you go
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With Note 2 screen protector installed
No cases at my store, I'll check other stores tomorrow but thats the style I like except I want a kickstand on it, I'll take whatever they have for protection and exchange it when more come in I guess. I loved the Body Glove Fusion with Durastand i had on my G2
I have the same case on mine. i also had it on the note 2 but it had a glossy shine to it.i dropped my phone several times and nothing happened to my phone. i really like these cases but i wish they were clear like the one on my wifes s4 not this grey color.tech 21 i found to be really durable.
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There you go
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Its looking really nice...is it available on Amazon....???
Looks nice, will you consider has cover case? Can has better protection for the LCD.
I bought same one. It OK. Not a big fan of it. Need more protection.
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I bought this one as well. I actually like it a lot. It's a bit expensive at this point but i have 30 days to decide if i want it or not. It does offer good protection though.
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i purchased one with the note 3. it's actually really nice.
I almost bought it but I decided against it. I talked to some ATT store people today and they will have different cases tomorrow so I'll wait to see what they have before I make a decision.
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My brother has this Tech21 case on his Note2, and the buttons are a ***** to press. A little overpriced too, for what it is (simply TPU), imo.
Does it make the phone a lot wider in comparison to a naked device. With the Tech21 on my S4, the phone gains about a cm in width and height.
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I have one in blue. I like the body glove case I saw but I am not convinced that the screen will survive a corner drop in it. I'm hoping Ballistic, Otterbox, or someone that focuses on corner protection releases something soon.
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Returning mine later today Just ordered a spigen case.
It's not a bad temporary case but not worth the 35 dollar price tag
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Its looking really nice...is it available on Amazon....???
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Check your local T-Mobile store.
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Does it make the phone a lot wider in comparison to a naked device. With the Tech21 on my S4, the phone gains about a cm in width and height.
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Yes it does! LOL
That's exactly why I'm returning mine. The case itself and protection is fine. It makes it too tall and wide. I like the thin-ness just as with the S4 but it's that girth that's really annoying.
I also didn't like how the bottom cutouts felt while holding
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I have this case. Buttons are awkward, but it is all they have in TMO.. I tiwll do until my neo hybrid comes in hte mail. A lil pricey to.
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I have one in blue. I like the body glove case I saw but I am not convinced that the screen will survive a corner drop in it. I'm hoping Ballistic, Otterbox, or someone that focuses on corner protection releases something soon.
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I just went to best buy to see if they had any cases to which they did not but a sales associate told me that he saw someone that had the Platinum case holster combo that they had gotten from the best buy mobile store in the mall so that's where I went. Upon arriving I asked their associate if they had any cases for the note 3 and he said no that they probably wouldn't have any in for a week or two. I told him that the associate at the big store said that I should come there because he knew someone that had gotten one from there. So he says no but I'll check. About a minute later he come from the back with a case and tells me it's the only one he had so I was in luck. So I took my other case back and am rocking this until the Ballistic hardcore is released or I may just keep this. I like a lot of protection but I hate how it bulks up the phone. I also hate putting things in my pockets so I'm a holster guy.
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Note 3 Cases

Anyone bought or even find any cases in store yet? No luck for me lol.
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Chadworth66 said:
Anyone bought or even find any cases in store yet? No luck for me lol.
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I bought a cheap case off E-Bay to hold me off till the good ones come out
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Anyone bought or even find any cases in store yet? No luck for me lol.
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I'm using a simple case bought from Amazon-a Spigen's Protective Bounce case
http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-Samsun...F8&qid=1380813241&sr=8-2&keywords=note+3+case
It fits the phone quite well without adding much bulk to the original size.
Until a more premium leather wallet case becomes available, this will do for me.
Looks great!
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Found an incipio case at an AT&T store after a three hour search , nothing anywhere else. My T-Mobile store said they might get some in this afternoon..
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Still waiting for Spigen to ship my screen protectors and case! Ordered Sept. 16th...
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Same here. It was like $6 and free shipping, so it'll hold me over until they release an OtterBox for it, or the official Samsung cases. Or anything really, provided it isn't too crazy expensive. Plus, it looks cool.
It was this "leather" map case in case anyone is curious. And I lied. It's $7.
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Same here. It was like $6 and free shipping, so it'll hold me over until they release an OtterBox for it, or the official Samsung cases. Or anything really, provided it isn't too crazy expensive. Plus, it looks cool.
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Mine was 5 bucks and looks so cheap..lol, its ok im sure there will be lots to choose from in a month
Here's the case I bought. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00EA1XEKS. First case I bought for my note 2, And still use it
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Anyone bought or even find any cases in store yet? No luck for me lol.
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I got my Cruzerlite in the mail today, don't have the note though!
Not sure why UAG is always late to the game in terms of releasing their cases.
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Here's the PIC
I found a case at att .... for my T-mobile note3 ... it's really nice
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The last two are some nice cases.
This is what I am waiting to arrive:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=190916297722
im just using saran wrap so i can play with my phone without scratching the screen. lol
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im just using saran wrap so i can play with my phone without scratching the screen. lol
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Your fingernails can scratch Gorilla Glass 3?
Chadworth66 said:
Anyone bought or even find any cases in store yet? No luck for me lol.
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les_garten said:
Your fingernails can scratch Gorilla Glass 3?
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no. just ocd to keep my note3 just a clean as holy virgin mary.
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no. just ocd to keep my note3 just a clean as holy virgin mary.
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My, that is clean!
My local T-Mobile stores received cases and accessories today. I dropped by and picked up a D21 case. I also ordered this one off of Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DCIZMAU/ref=ox_ya_os_product
Cases can be found and discussed in the accessory section
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Hot looking slim case!!

So I found this case on AliExpress.com and I think it looks pretty smooth! It seems to be a knock off because Spigen hasn't made this style case for the G3 yet but I think they should. I bit the bullet and bought one in black/white since I have the white G3. I'll let you know how it looks when I get it. Here is the link to the page http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Top-Quality-For-LG-Optimus-G3-Case-SPIGEN-SGP-NEO-Hybrid-Series-TPU-PC-Hard-Phone/2035111496.html
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I saw this on ebay as well. I'm wondering if the back of the case has the same soft feel as previous Spigen Neo Hybrid cases.
Interested in hearing your thoughts on the case.
Yeah I am curious as well. I will post pics and review once I get it. Hopefully it's not a dud.
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Isn't that a knock off? It's not on their website so... I would like a neo hybrid for the G3 but I didn't l doubt they will make one
Yup, it's a knockoff. Spigen doesn't even make the Neo Hybrid for the g3. At least somebody is lol
Yeah I did say it was a knock off in my original post but I don't care much as long as its made well. Spigen doea need to make this case though, it looks pretty slick.
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BlessedTalent said:
Yeah I did say it was a knock off in my original post but I don't care much as long as its made well. Spigen doea need to make this case though, it looks pretty slick.
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I must have overlooked that, its midterms week and I have 4 interviews for internships so its likely that I'm not thinking correctly. I might have to get one because it's looks nice.
No worries!
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Antenna cutout = bleh.
I wish it didn't have the cut out either, I think all of the Spigen designs have the cut out, kind of hate it. Maybe that's why they decided to make it with the cut out, to keep in line with the rest of Spigen's line of cases. Not make it so obvious it's a knock off.
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Antenna cutout = bleh.
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yeah, so many cases i'm avoiding due to this!!
My spigen slim armor doesnt have a cutout.
Their ultra fit and ultra hybrid both have the cut out.
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I have a Korean G3 but I agree the antenna cutout is pointless outside of Korea unless a Dev can make the TV work stateside or in Europe.
I wish I could get some feedback from someone who has this case already. Just wanna make sure the quality is good.
Right now it's only $3.89usd and free shipping, so... Pretty hard to go wrong.
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Not worried about the cost because it's cheap. I'm more worried Bout the quality. I'd rather not waste my time waiting on this case if it's crap when I could be focused on another and get it sooner than 2 weeks.
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sorry to thread bump....but, did you get the case? i like the angular look in the photos, but the g3 has that curved backing, so not feeling too optimistic that the case will look like the pictures.
Yeah I did get it and it actually does look like the picture. The back is flat and everything. I will post pics once I get home from work this evening.
Anyone have a new link for this case? Link in the op no longer exists. I looked on eBay but did not see it
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