Guys,
Quick question:
Is Saturn/Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" 4th gen (2014) rootable or not?
(Ancient wisdom says 4.1.1 & later 4.5.1 are not rootable)
What firmware Saturn is shipped with?
For some reason, I cannot make forum search work at all, sorry.
You're right. Since the 4th generation HDX 8.9" comes with FireOS 4, there's no way to root it at this moment.
EncryptedCurse,
Thanks for prompt response! :good:
The only reason I asked, reading this thread it was unclear to me, whether Saturn comes fresh with 3.X or 4.X OS.
AmazonLeaker said:
The OTA 4.1.1 & later 4.5.1 was pushed to Apollo & Saturn (NEW GEN HDX 8.9") Devices adding firefly functionality along with other functionality...
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In case somebody interested in buying Saturn:
Amazon Lightning Deals shows Upcoming Deal
30% Off the Fire HDX 8.9"
Starts at 3:00 AM EST 12/22/2014
ApokrifX said:
EncryptedCurse,
Thanks for prompt response! :good:
The only reason I asked, reading this thread it was unclear to me, whether Saturn comes fresh with 3.X or 4.X OS.
In case somebody interested in buying Saturn:
Amazon Lightning Deals shows Upcoming Deal
30% Off the Fire HDX 8.9"
Starts at 3:00 AM EST 12/22/2014
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This is UK only, right?
No..
cerveca said:
This is UK only, right?
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It is for USA.
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I'm debating between a Kindle Fire HDX, HD or a Nexus 7. I prefer the physical looks and the internals of the Kindles but I definitely prefer the Android OS and Google Play Store. Are the Kindles able to be modified to get the latest version of Android Lollipop and have the Google Play Store installed onto them?
AliMusa said:
I'm debating between a Kindle Fire HDX, HD or a Nexus 7. I prefer the physical looks and the internals of the Kindles but I definitely prefer the Android OS and Google Play Store. Are the Kindles able to be modified to get the latest version of Android Lollipop and have the Google Play Store installed onto them?
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new generation Fire HD: Currently no.
4th generation Fire HDX 8.9: Currently no, until rooting method or bootloader unlock for FireOS 4.5.2 exist
3rd generation Kindle Fire HDX 7 or 8.9, shipped with FireOS 1X.3.X.X: Updates have to be disabled subsequently before Wifi is activated the first time to prevent the device is upgraded to 1X.4.X.X. Then: Rootable, Jellybean (Android 4.2) based HDX Nexus ROM available through the Android Development forum, usable with Safestrap.
3rd generation Kindle Fire HDX 7 or 8.9, shipped with FireOS 1X.4.X.Y: Currently, rollback to older software has to be initiated by Amazon (several threads) before, until rooting method or bootloader unlock for FireOS 4.5.2 exist
older generation Kindle Fire HD variants: unlocks have been carried out, complete replacement of FireOS possible. Includes stable Kitkat releases and alpha Lollipop releases.
AliMusa said:
I'm debating between a Kindle Fire HDX, HD or a Nexus 7. I prefer the physical looks and the internals of the Kindles but I definitely prefer the Android OS and Google Play Store. Are the Kindles able to be modified to get the latest version of Android Lollipop and have the Google Play Store installed onto them?
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The only reason to purchase a Kindle (IMO) is if you are a member of Amazon Prime and you want to take advantage of all the free content that comes with Prime. Otherwise, you are better off with the Nexus.
Kindle is currently running a basterdized v ersion of Kit Kat. They will probably upgrade to Lollipop (which I love on my Nexus 5). However, the new UI won't make much of a difference to Kindle users except in the way that notifications are handled.
Having said that, the Kindle is an excellent, although purposely limited, tablet. At this time, newer versions of Fire O/S cannot be rooted. Thus, no PlayStore. Frankly, I only want it to complete licensing of Bubble UPnP.
Sorry if this is basic knowledge here, I'm just incredibly new to the kindle fire scene and don't know a thing about it. What I do know is that I have a kindle fire HDX (3rd generation) that's on 4.5.4 . The thing is that I want to root it, but there's no root out for it, so I'd rather just downgrade to 3.2.8 and upgrade to 4.5.2. I just have 1 more question: is the root tethered? That may not be the right terminology, but what I meant was, if the device dies, do I need to connect it to a pc to boot it?
I'm sure these things have been asked many times, I'm sorry, I just really would appreciate some direct help. Thanks in advance!!
7" HDX = Thor
8.9" HDX w/2.2 GHz processor = Apollo
8.9" HDX w 2.5 GHz processor = Saturn (can not be rolled back)
Rolling back to 3.2.8 is risky. A misstep can lead to a hard brick (non-recoverable). You can find more info here. I suggest you wait for an exploit that will allow rooting 4.5.4+. HDX devices are unlike most other 'android devices'. Tough to tame and easy to brick. Standard recovery techniques don't work (eg: so called 'factory cables'). If you pursue tweaking be mentally prepared to toss your device in the trash if something goes wrong. A quick glance through the forums will provide further evidence. Good luck.
Davey126 said:
7" HDX = Thor
8.9" HDX w/2.2 GHz processor = Apollo
8.9" HDX w 2.5 GHz processor = Saturn (can not be rolled ).
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Thanks for the reply! I think I'm gonna shy away for now, but I have another question, how do I check which processor I have?
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Thanks for the reply! I think I'm gonna shy away for now, but I have another question, how do I check which processor I have?
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There are many apps/tools that can provide this info. I like CPU-Z which is available from both the Amazon and Google Play stores. Hardware info is displayed on the 'soc' tab.
My mother has a Kindle Fire HD (3rd Generation) 7inch I believe? Running Fire OS 4.5.5.
I was wondering if Android can be put on this type of Kindle because the Fire OS is so bland and boring with nothing more really than the amazon and kindle store.
If it is possible I would need something that is the most stable. It doesn't have to be the most updated version of Lolipop with all the frills. Just basic or flashy enough that it runs smoothly with the least amount of problems.
Read the rules: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2487836
And then use the search.
kiliimanjaro said:
My mother has a Kindle Fire HD (3rd Generation) 7inch I believe? Running Fire OS 4.5.5.
I was wondering if Android can be put on this type of Kindle because the Fire OS is so bland and boring with nothing more really than the amazon and kindle store.
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All info for rooting 3rd gen is at KFSOWI modding on G+.
After excitedly clicking on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/7-development/unlock-kfsowi-bootloader-unlock-t3262770
I discovered that my BL-locked THOR is apparently not a 3rd gen? I don't know, the model naming convention for kindles is a disaster.
Anyways, the local Pawn America has a literal stack of fire HDXs for $25 each in perfect condition. I guess they don't sell well.
I'm willing to try some experimental attempts at migrating the SOHO BL unlock; the discoverer mentioned that it *might* be cross compatible. Would I be wasting $25 if I made the attempt or are the BLs similar enough to warrant it? Anything I should know about THOR in terms of adjusting this unlock method?
vapor63 said:
After excitedly clicking on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hd/7-development/unlock-kfsowi-bootloader-unlock-t3262770
I discovered that my BL-locked THOR is apparently not a 3rd gen? I don't know, the model naming convention for kindles is a disaster.
Anyways, the local Pawn America has a literal stack of fire HDXs for $25 each in perfect condition. I guess they don't sell well.
I'm willing to try some experimental attempts at migrating the SOHO BL unlock; the discoverer mentioned that it *might* be cross compatible. Would I be wasting $25 if I made the attempt or are the BLs similar enough to warrant it? Anything I should know about THOR in terms of adjusting this unlock method?
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Soho is Kindle Fire HD (2 gen) which means it is the second generation of HD series, the first generation of Kindle Fire HD is codenamed TATE,
here, check this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593334
From what I know the last gen of fires received great support from the devs, instead the HDX series didn't, as of the unlock I frankly don't know
vapor63 said:
After excitedly clicking on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kin...ment/unlock-kfsowi-bootloader-unlock-t3262770
I discovered that my BL-locked THOR is apparently not a 3rd gen? I don't know, the model naming convention for kindles is a disaster.
Anyways, the local Pawn America has a literal stack of fire HDXs for $25 each in perfect condition. I guess they don't sell well.
I'm willing to try some experimental attempts at migrating the SOHO BL unlock; the discoverer mentioned that it *might* be cross compatible. Would I be wasting $25 if I made the attempt or are the BLs similar enough to warrant it? Anything I should know about THOR in terms of adjusting this unlock method?
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aaronkatrini said:
Soho is Kindle Fire HD (2 gen) which means it is the second generation of HD series, the first generation of Kindle Fire HD is codenamed TATE,
here, check this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2593334
From what I know the last gen of fires received great support from the devs, instead the HDX series didn't, as of the unlock I frankly don't know
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TL;DR I never said it "might" be cross compatible. I said it definitely isn't.
Let me explain this. There was the Kindle Fire otter. Then came the Kindle Fire (2nd Generation) otter2, Kindle Fire HD (2nd Generation) tate and Kindle Fire HD 8.9" (2nd Generation) jem. Then came the Kindle Fire HD (3rd Generation) soho, Kindle Fire HDX (3rd Generation) thor and Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" (3rd Generation) apollo. But the Kindle Fire HDX is completely different from any Kindle Fire that came before it. Unlike its predecessors which were powered by the TI OMAP4 platform, it's powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon. Android generally uses the LK bootloader, designed for Qualcomm devices and licensed under the MIT license. The MIT license imposes no requirements on the use of the software. The OMAP4 platform does not generally use LK and most devices use Das U-Boot instead. Since U-Boot is licensed under the GPL license, companies using it are forced to release the source code, along with any modifications made to it. There are many uses of untrusted input in Amazon's verification procedures in the bootloader source code which have been exploited to unlock all the devices in the Kindle Fire (2nd Generation) range, and the Kindle Fire HD (3rd Generation). Since the MIT license does not require Amazon to release the source code, we cannot inspect their verification procedures as easily as we can with U-Boot, therefore an exploit is harder to find.
I've recently picked up a 3rd generation fire hd6 & am struggling to find a decent case for it as it's all about the 4th gen stuff nowerdays.
if anyone knows of a source for gen3 hd6's it'd be most welcome.
thanks in anticipation
Solved
turns out its a kindle fire hdx so problem solved. turns out to be a better deal than I'd realised.
*facepalm*