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Just a quick one. Are all of you happy with your purchase? Ive been reading more and more about people liking their Inspire 4G more than the Atrix and lots of them returned their Atrix's. I want the Atrix, ive preordered it (comes out Thursday in Canada), i guess you could say I just need a pat on the back or a kick in the ass to tell me that everything is going to be fine.
Ive extremely excited to see what this dev community will have to offer in the coming months.
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Im happy with mine I was little regretting getting it after couple days when i herd about the lock bootloader but it seems like it might get bypassed by the devs.
Other than that it has been really fast and everything for me and i also got the laptop dock which i use everyday which is also neat a bit slow but does the stuff i want it too do like videos web browsing and some gaming.
Wait till the boot loader get pass im sure all those people that return there arix for a inspire will regret doing it.
I still think i would keep mine even if the boot loader doesn't get bypassed and i also couldn't stand the battery life on the inspire which i herd is pretty bad, Which battery life is the most impotent thing for mobile devices (phones laptops or pretty much everything that has a battery) too me and if it doesn't get good battery life than too me its useless.
I absolutely love the Atrix, coming from the iPhone 4. The things I do MOST on my smart phone are texting, e-mail and web browsing. In all of these areas, I've found the UI (even with MotoBlur) to be much more logical and customizable. I've found web browsing to be a lot faster and I love the notification system. I think the screen is perfectly fine but then again, I don't even know what Pentile is. I think the homescreen 7 page system is logical and easy to adjust to my needs. I love being able to try a slew of web browsers and media players and choose the one that best suits my needs (Dolphin HD and WinAmp) I also have been happy with the battery life - I typically have my phone unplugged for 12-14 hours a day and never drop below 30% battery life using the phone moderately.
I've installed adeo and, while I didn't have lag complaints before, I absolutely see the benefits after.
Some cons: The phone gets hot quickly. I've noticed that, in MY opinion, iOS versions of apps have more polish and overall, the app store still isn't of the same quality. I also think the hardware FEELS a bit cheap compared to the iphone 4. Camera is meh. I do think the texting application could use some improvement.
These complaints are nothing new to these forums however and ultimately, I would never consider going back to iOS in its current state. Its just so limiting and boring after a while and I don't like being locked into a single hardware manufacturer eco-system.
Coming from a captivate to an atrix I'm very satisfied. I tried an inspire for like 4 days then got an atrix. The only pluses the inspire has is in my opinion is the screen is a little nicer and it has a lot more development. Speaker sucks, battery is bad, dual core rocks it in reality even with a 1.8 oc. The only reason the development is so far is because the inspire was released as a desire HD like 8 months ago in Europe, so basically you're buying a nearly year old phone out of the gate. Plus in the last week dev for the atrix has tripled due to having recovery if it gets bricked so the good stuff is starting to roll out quickly. I don't think the inspire is a bad phone, the atrix is just better, now if we got the inspire 8 months ago like Europe it would be an awesome phone.
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I am still within the window of returning my G Note (which i love except for a few things) and possibly getting a SGS3.
I really like the GNote and the massive screen, the extra real state is really nice! I am on AT&T and really like the idea of the HSPA network backup to the not yet present LTE here in South Florida. I am getting avg between 4-6 mbps DL.
NOTE (AT&T):
Likes:
* HSPA Network on AT&T
* Screen Size
* S-Pen (I actually use the thing)
Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
* No OC on ICS (might be wrong here)
* Potential for less Dev support once SGS3 comes out.
SGS3 (VZW):
Likes:
* Camera...I have toddler at home and a quick camera would be great (this is my biggest factor for considering this phone)
* Power...this things seems like a beast!!!
* form factor
* ICS, although I am not as concerned about software bcs it's a matter of porting by one these great devs in XDA.
Dislike:
* Smaller Screen
* Slow 3G speeds when not on LTE area about 50% of time!
Any thoughts that might help me rationalize this decision is greatly appreciate it!
Thank you!
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Dislikes:
* LAG!!! It's minimized using TW, but any other launcher seems to slow it down. Over all it sometimes does not feel as responsive as expected from the specs.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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Is lag only in the launchers? If so, try Launcher Pro. No perceptible lag for me.
Good luck figuring this out, it's a tight race between these 2 devices.
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No, it's not limited to Launchers, but they do affect normal navigation. I had ran GO, ADW EX, and Holo....and Holo being the "fastest". I just installed Go Ex and it's really fast. I think it more to do with one the widgets that I was running.
But lag can be seen while unlocking, but I hear that the SGS3 is the same...something to do with deep sleep that Samsung uses. It can also be seen while playing some games like Angry Birds. It ran kind of choppy on my old htc Vision(G2) Oc'd @ 1.2 Ghz, but the Note sometimes shows that choppiness too.
One thing that also concerns me is that the RAM is ually running at 65%-75% capacity anyone else?
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3. I sold my international note for the one x and didn't like that phone so I would probably regret trading for the gs3 as well. Once you get used to the screen on the note its hard to downgrade. Believe me when I say that the note's screen looks way better than the one x, even the guy at Walmart's at&t store agreed with me. Hopefully when we get a kernel source it will speed up our notes, although my note isn't that bad now.
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First and foremost determine what you need in a phone, do you need the Horsepower of a quad core? Most apps aren't designed to work with the quad cores and I would believe that the support of them in ICS is kind of like windows, yes they will use them, but will it use them effectively? Do you want the screen or the camera more? I know for my needs I prefer the screen and the camera is plenty quick enough for what I do, but I don't have kids. As for lag, if it's really that bad, I'd exchange it for another. I only saw lag on my phone after I had launched 20 or 25 apps, running tons of widgets and hadn't shut my phone down in 3 weeks.
So in the end, the trade off is what will you utilize more and what would be best for you. I for one wouldn't trade my note for anything, but again I came from a streak and make full use of my very large screen and not the camera so much. Not to mention, you could wait to get the S3, get it, and in a year they'll probably release a phone that has 3.2GHz quad cores with brand new LTE system that's 10x faster than what we have now.
Technology has always grown faster than we can keep up with, the real question is, how long will you wait to get the latest and greatest? That's the reason why I haven't upgraded my home PC. There's always a new CPU coming out with a new form factor, or the next best graphics card is going to be released in a month or two. My current logic with it now is, hey it works, it works well, I'll keep it until it doesn't suit my needs anymore.
Just my thoughts on it.
Apex launcher is the best launcher for the note no lag on my end. I couldn't see myself going to a smaller screen. My hands fit the phone perfect.
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I will share my views with my days with the ATT Note. If you are running stock ROM..it was a HORRIBLE experience. I had my Captivate at the time and it was super smooth compared to the ATT Note stock.
If you are cool changing ROMS, which I think you are since you are here, I would expect it to be a lot better.
As for the dev on the ATT one dying after the GS3 comes out...well , unless you are buying an international GS3, I wont expect the dev for it to be that huge either compared to the international version but this is just a guess.
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lyall29 said:
I can't decide either. My problem is that I have would have to return my note before ever seeing the gs3....
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This is exactly my concern.....Yes it might be all that, as the hox was when it came out, but after I played with it for a bit I was not convinced and actually opted for the GNote instead despite the additional $70 that it cost me.
I guess I like to be a s bleeding edge as possible, being that at the speed of industry... in two years, by the time my contract is over, there will be 6.8Ghz eight core, 0.5 TB solid state drive phones with 21MP cameras that wipe my butt too.... But reality is that it might be overkill.
The other thing that attracts me to the SGS# is that finally an Android phone will have as many accessories as an iPhone given the number of pre-sales, and the fact that it will be the flag-ship device for the 5 major carriers in the US/Canada. I am tired of walking into a best buy and see 90 different cases for the iPhone and, if I'm lucky, finding the $hitty Speck case for my Note lol.
Lastly, my other concer is that in order to get the SGS3 I would have to go from AT&T to VZW, and I am not convinced at all of going from lightning fast VZW LTE to crawling speed 3g EV-DO signal. It is reliable in the area, but LTE does not reach 50% of my territory.
I guess I'm going to keep the GNote, root it and wait for a kernel to break 2.0 Ghz blazing fast phone. I have read a few reviews that measure web processing throughput and the Note beats the SGS3 in the benchmark. Also some of the ROMs available have been tweaked to improve DL perfromance quite drastically.
The camera is pretty snappy too....It seems to take long, but when the picture is revealed it look amazing!
Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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Alrighty, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1. While most apps arent designed to utilize quad cores, this isnt likely to stay that way for long. Since quadcores are fairly new and Android app developers can actually update their apps without some sort of approval process, expect support to happen fairly quickly.
2. The SG3 has a stylus too.
3. ICS will be available for the Note probably in the next month or so. The latest rumour is July 13th. It was delayed 2 weeks because Samsung was fixing a kernel bug that caused the international Note to hard brick when flashing ICS roms.
4. The stock apps are interchangeable. The apps on the Note are available for the SG3 and the SG3 apps are available to put on the Note (this will become easier once ICS is official on the Note).
5. While yes, the Note is bigger, it isnt by much.
Now that Ive addressed those points, I want to talk about ram usage and lag.
The very first thing I am going to recommend is a simple factory reset. Strange as it may be, my Note had nothing but problems first day I had it. I should interject here, my Note was brand new, NOT a refurb. I had only installed a few of my own apps (Audible, BeyondPod, Go Launcher, Beautiful Widgets, and Widget Locker) and had NOT (and still havent in fact) rooted it. I also updated as many of the stock apps manually from the market as I could find since I noticed the stock apps were not linked to the market. And apps began force closing left and right, battery was dead within 6 hours of just streaming audio over bluetooth (hardly any screen time), poor performance, etc. Before I returned it, I did a factory reset and it has been running great since (on probably month 3 now of having it, I bought it very shortly after it came out in the states).
Strangely enough, my brothers Samsung GNexus had poor network performance out of the box, we did a factory reset WHILE driving home with his brand new phone (we drove 2.5 hours to pick up his phone so we had the time) and since then, it has been working fine since.
Ram usage is normal for it to be in the 75% range. Android works a bit differently than Windows and their is no negative to high ram usage TO A POINT. Ram usage exceeding at or exceeding 90% however would be troubling and actually cause poor, laggy performance but under 90% is fine. I dont want to go into the details here but a quick Google search, difference between windows and linux ram usage, might be beneficial.
Finally, my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone. The screen is better (albeit smaller), slightly faster, etc. Software differences are a moot point since all of that will be changed in a month when ICS is official for the Note and you can just install software from the phone you DONT have on the phone you DO have. Source code has been released for the Note and the SG3 so we may actually begin seeing some decent rom development begin to happen here in the coming weeks for both phones. What I would say is this, if you want a better quality screen and a slightly faster phone spec wise, go with the SG3. If you want the bigger screen, stick with the Note. Personally, I prefer the screen size and since I spent money on an extended battery for the Note (the Mugen 5400 mah), I wont be switching phones any time soon.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
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I guess the only thing that bugs me with the at&t note is opening apps. When I had the international note it was twice as fast at opening apps and the international gs2 was even faster. The app I use the most is cash flow for my check register. It takes almost 5 seconds to open with the at&t note and like 1.5 seconds with the gs2. I know I'm being picky but I like things to be fast. The HTC one x to me, was even slower than my gs2. Maybe because of the sense UI, but that's what scares me about the gs3 seeing how it has the same processor as the one x. Maybe I need to be content with what I have and quit wanting all the latest and greatest. After all this worrying I'll probably still get the gs3.
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My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Thanks lufc, hadn't realized that I wasn't in Q&A. :
Well I bit the bullet..... I switched to VZW. Specs wise the sgs3 seems to be superior, but push come to shove, a $35 a month savings with unlimited voice and text and 4gb gigs once the new pricing plans kick in at the end of the month.
I will miss the huge screen and te s- pen. And I might regret it, but I had to do it from a logical perspective.
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Littleweirdo ...thanks for the explanation and opinion. I share much of what you are saying regarding the SGS3, and I think dollar for dollar the SGS3 is far more powerful than the Note. I looked at our bill, and with the new plans that VZW is pushing out on June 28th, we would actually save about $32 a month from our phone bill (which allone is an enticing reason to change). My concern is the LTE to 3G connectivity of the VZW network...not sure if that is a strong enough argument not to change to VZW. Something can be said about the quality of the VZW network that does, in a way, outweigh sheer DL speeds.
My concern with dropping my Note for the SGS3 sight-unseen is that the SGS3 will not meet my expectations based on the hype.
This is the most annoying cellular phone decision (purchase) I have ever done!! LOL!
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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Ok, Im not a fanboy by any stretch of the imagination. BUT, Samsung hasnt created a crappy phone since prior to the Galaxy S line of phones - I cant speak to anything prior to that because I never owned a Samsung phone prior to the Captivate. They have proven that they are ready to play with the big boys, they are even taking on a certain fruit company in court.
Why WOULDNT the Galaxy S3 not live up to all the hype? All the tech enthusiasts love it, ask anyone who has it outside of the US, they all love it as well. I think its a fantastic device and other than a smaller screen, its an upgrade from the Note in EVERY aspect, including a much higher quality screen.
If I wasnt invested in the Note already (ie a contract & a $100 extended battery), Id be looking very seriously at the S3 because the Note is older tech. Honestly, Id be laughing at the Note's screen size (I did originally before I decided to just see if I could live with it) because hell, its big.
If Im GOING to buy a phone, Im going to get the latest tech because I know that living with a phone for two years is going to be painful during the last 6 months of the contract.
Although I dont see myself wanting to upgrade my phone after two years due to the limited things I actually USE my phone for (podcasts, audiobooks from Audible, driving directions and checking for app updates for the 15 or so apps I have installed), my Note is plenty adequate. Hell, I would still be using the Captivate if it hadnt died on me. It did everything the Note does for me (that I use it for that is) and it even had a MUCH better sound processor (the Note's sound processing is TERRIBLE).
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Yeah I hear ya.....I have seen multiple videos on the the SGS3 and it seems like an incredibly fluid device. I have to say the screen real state i will miss, but since I am returning my Note today, and will get the SGS3 in early July I am back on an Blackberry Pearl 8130...the screen size is about 1/4 of the Note's....maybe less LOL. So I think by the time i get the G3 it will seem like a huge screen!
I will miss the S-Pen....I did use it quite a bit. I stopped taking my notebook to meetings bcs all I needed was my note.
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I'm still curious why people talk about the sgs3 like it's a pentium 4 to the notes pentium 2. The us note is a 1.5ghz dual core, the us sgs3 is a 1.5ghz dual core. The sgs3 has more ram, which means very little when appropriate customizations can create a silky smooth experience on either device. And to top it all off, with the right optimizations in the rom and kernel, a 1ghz tegra 2 is just as smooth as these 1.5 ghz chips. My atrix was buttery smooth on cm9, my note is buttery smooth on cm9, and I'm sure the sgs3 will be buttery smooth on cm9. In my opinion, it comes down to aesthetics and screen, because everything else is a variable if you plan to flash.
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You are right in the sence that many phones just need to be optimized in order to get them smooth. I did that with my htc Vision/G2 once I rooted, swaped kernels, flashed a "few" ROM's including ICS and had it OC'd to nearly 2x it's rated processor speed. BUT, and you know a but was coming....
There is something to be said of the posibilities of a device being launched nearly simultaneously on all 5 major carriers in the US...no other device has ever done that (at least under the same name, and never in so close proximity of one from the other).
The other thing impressive about the G3 is the hardware, it's got 2GB of ram, and incredible camera, a very good processor (though not the latest), and note like beautiful screen. For me the camera alone draws my attention, and the fact that the spec are as close to bleeding edge as we can get in a production device, makes me pretty happy to know that I can pull of 2 years of no upgrades.
In fact, when I purchased the htc G2 on T-Mobile nearly 2 yrs ago, it was the only phone on 4G network, and it was the best phone out there for a while, and I found no reason to envy any other devices. I switched from it bcs I got tired of the poor data strength of T-mobile in my area, and the fact that sitting at my office, getting signal was a hit/miss situation, but the device itself it's still kicking....it's my toddler's mini tablet at the moment.
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my raw opinion, the SG3 is the better phone.
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Amazes me that people make statements like this without ever seeing, touching, or using a phone..
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Ive seen it first hand (the international version). The screen is probably the biggest thing about the SG3, its a better quality screen than the Note.
Samsung has NAILED every phone. Would people be buying it otherwise? Look at the world wide sales, look at the tech reviews, there is hardly anything negative to say about it.
In fact, the only negative is that it doesnt have the latest processor, big whoop in my opinion. Oh, and maybe touchwiz, but touchwiz is decent now, nothing like the pile of poo it was on the Captivate.
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
KenjiS said:
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
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I usually get about a day out of my one X +, I'm using insert coin rom. The only way to have little to no bloat is a custom rom. The performance Imo is pretty good. I used to have a galaxy s2 and the screen, performance, build quality on this phone is far better. The audio quality is pretty good as well. Turning Beats audio on will dramatically increase the volume output through headphones. Rooting and unlocking the device is easy due to the fact that hasoon developed a all in one kit for the device. It is really easy to do with his program. I get around 15+ mbps where I'm at using lte.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
If you are ok with Sense everything else is awesome with One X+ ... Once we get CM it should be great. Also check out the LG Optimus G, that one is fast and buttery smooth phone.
Just to touch on a few points I have the att one x+ and lte is great on it. The battery is gonna be what you make of it. You can adjust the settings and get what you want out of it. Of course with beats audio the audio is good. The rooting is very easy esp. With the tool by hasoon2000. The bloatware comes with every phone esp if you run stock, although a custom Rom can take care of that!
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
So basically get it, root it, and ill be happy?
theres a link to the Hasoon all in one on the forums i am assuming?
KenjiS said:
So basically get it, root it, and ill be happy?
theres a link to the Hasoon all in one on the forums i am assuming?
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Yes youll be happy and yup here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
Backmankiller said:
Yes youll be happy and yup here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
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Thanks! I was just checking out the ROMs, That Elegancia one looks awesome (Black and Blue are my colors on top of it) and the screens im seeing of 17h of battery life are definitely making me feel better...
Is there a handy dandy text guide for doing this? I know, sounding pretty dumb.. I think I might kinda have it.. basically all i need is Hasoon's toolkit thing and the file of the ROM i want to use
-Get hasoon's toolkit
-Unlock Bootloader
-Flash TWRP
-Flash the Kernal
-Enjoy?
Correct enjoy away, I've been enjoying mine the day I rooted mine.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using xda app-developers app
KenjiS said:
First post here... Sorry if its a bit long
Currently rocking a GSM Unlocked Galaxy Nexus (From Google Play) and while I overall am decently happy, I have a few little problems, The biggest of which which I cant correct through software is that 16gb just isnt enough for me (I thought I could make do, I admit it, its my fault and my failing) and I'm constantly feeling strangled for space on it, I dislike using "The cloud" for music and pictures... I kinda wish the processor was more spritely at times (like watching Flash videos and such) but it works, Im not terribly happy with 4.2 and while I can fix that (Root/rom what have you) I figured perhaps since I have the money why not consider getting a newer phone instead...
The other thing that annoys me on the GNex is the poor speaker volume and poor headphone amplification, Volume+ used to fix these but 4.2 broke that (I know theres likely alternatives...)
I tried out a Galaxy S3 shortly, I was not terribly happy, The biggest problem I had with it was the feel in my hand, it felt cheap and I HATED the single sliver of a button at the bottom which I had issues working, I also detested TouchWiz's entire appearance and the fact it lacked 4.1 out of the box and overall I just didnt feel enough positives to actually keep the thing (Primarily, the sliver "home" button drove me nuts the most, I could not press it worth a dang without using two hands...) The Galaxy Note II is out because its just a bit too big and still has the sliver button and etc...And I'm not a fan of the Nexus 4 (Primarily due to the storage... or rather lack of it)
That leads me to the One X+, I much prefer Sense if I'm going to have a skin, and while I havnt played with the +, I adored the feel of the original X (In fact the ONLY reason I bought the Nexus over it is the fact the Original X had VERY poor storage, 11gb free vs 13gb on the Nexus) 64gb of storage is awesome and Im betting that Tegra 3 feels pretty darn spritely while also being decently future proof (as more apps optimize more for quad core processors) it also is running 4.1 which im completely happy with (I dont see why a skinned phone NEEDS 4.2 given most of the improvements are things that skinned phones already do)
I do have ATT's LTE in my area, When I had the S3 I know my house and surrounding immediate area was very spotty with LTE coverage... When I had LTE I got a maximum of 8mbps on one very lucky run, Average of 6mbps... Compared to my Nexus doing 5mbps on HSPA+... Yes I had to double/triple/quadruple verify I was actually on LTE when I ran Speedtest when I saw the numbers and was not very thrilled when I saw it... HOWEVER since this time ATT has done some work on the towers near my house, Now I pull down 7.5mbps on HSPA+ and have a FAR stronger signal (And it wasnt what I'd call a bad signal before!) so Im willing to see if LTE has gotten better... Worse comes to worse so long as I'm happy with the rest of it I can always just switch LTE off (Or more likely, around my house just use Wi-Fi which uses less battery power)
Now this brings me to why I'm here, I've looked at the threads and everything but I guess I'm still a bit nervous about one aspect on the One X+, Battery Life... Now the GNex is no star when it comes to battery life(Because of the AMOLED Screen primarily), the fact I have had a 3500mah Seidio battery bolted on it since day 3 is a testament to that, With the 3500mah cell i go for about 18h, with 5.5hours of screen on time at about 33% brightness, Now, the One X+ doesnt have to match that, But I am curious just how close it can get... For me, I'd be perfectly happy with an average of 12hours + 4hours screen on time, Looking at the thread here, it seems thats possible, But I just want to pick peoples brains (As paying restocking fees and dealing with ATT screwing my bill up again is not something Im particularly wanting to deal with)
The only other thing I was wondering is if its going to be a pain to unlock/root/etc (I've NEVER done this before, I just want it as an option, I'm fairly techie minded so I dont think its beyond my ability, Just saw no reason to bother on the GNex...) I plan to keep it stock for a while however (Well might root it when i first get it because this wipes the phone)
I use my phone to read manga, read wikipedia a ton, watch youtube videos (I do this a LOT), listen to music, make skype calls(Both video and non), play a few games and text message, Occasionally i make normal phone calls too... But yeah, mostly the above
Ok because TL,DR, What I want:
-Acceptable battery life (12h with 4h screen on time is acceptable)
-Better performance for flash videos, games, and just in general
-Better audio quality
-Ability to EASILY Root/Unlock the thing
-Minimum of annoying bloatware
-More storage space
-LTE would be nice
And of course if any of you think of any other reasons (I know a few of you went GNex to One X+ from looking around) feel free to mention them More info is appreciated
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Wow we are almost in identical situations. I had the Gnex and have hated the phones performance since 4.2. I have been going back and forth between getting a one x+ or a note 2 for a couple weeks now. I love the build of the one x+ but that 5.5" screen was really calling my name, so I picked up the Note 2 from ATT today. I really like the phone, but am still considering exchanging it for the one x+ to get the better in hand feel and also beats audio since I love my bluetooth Beats headphones. The storage isn't a big deal for me as 16 GB has been plenty, but extra is always good to store videos and pics on. I will probably keep my Note 2 for at least a week before making any decisions on an exchange. I really wish the one x+ had 2 gb of ram though to future proof it a little more and also worried that they will come out with a 1080p version on AT&T shortly and make it obsolete within no time. Update the post with your thoughts if you get the one x+, as I'm interested to know how you like it compared to stock 4.2 on Gnex.
KenjiS said:
Thanks! I was just checking out the ROMs, That Elegancia one looks awesome (Black and Blue are my colors on top of it) and the screens im seeing of 17h of battery life are definitely making me feel better...
Is there a handy dandy text guide for doing this? I know, sounding pretty dumb.. I think I might kinda have it.. basically all i need is Hasoon's toolkit thing and the file of the ROM i want to use
-Get hasoon's toolkit
-Unlock Bootloader
-Flash TWRP
-Flash the Kernal
-Enjoy?
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Regarding battery, I went for about 40 hours on it Thursday/Friday last week (no screenshot, sorry) when I forgot to charge overnight Thursday. It was fairly light use, but still had over 25% at about 6:30 Friday night. I then had to use the flashlight for a little while (walking home in the dark and wanted cars to be able to see me) and it dropped down to about 15%, but that was to be expected.
scottyb0721 said:
Wow we are almost in identical situations. I had the Gnex and have hated the phones performance since 4.2. I have been going back and forth between getting a one x+ or a note 2 for a couple weeks now. I love the build of the one x+ but that 5.5" screen was really calling my name, so I picked up the Note 2 from ATT today. I really like the phone, but am still considering exchanging it for the one x+ to get the better in hand feel and also beats audio since I love my bluetooth Beats headphones. The storage isn't a big deal for me as 16 GB has been plenty, but extra is always good to store videos and pics on. I will probably keep my Note 2 for at least a week before making any decisions on an exchange. I really wish the one x+ had 2 gb of ram though to future proof it a little more and also worried that they will come out with a 1080p version on AT&T shortly and make it obsolete within no time. Update the post with your thoughts if you get the one x+, as I'm interested to know how you like it compared to stock 4.2 on Gnex.
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I'm shocked I'm seeing others that are.. It makes me feel good at least (or rather better about it) My only debate now is to wait for xmas or to just go buy it now... Nervous that they're going to throw it on sale in a week or something stupid (I remember the original One X dropping price quickly)
But yes, I will be sure to upload my thoughts when i get it
This is about 14 hours from off-charge with 4+ screen time and 33% battery left, running on InsertCoin for att with no mods...
Dottcent said:
This is about 14 hours from off-charge with 4+ screen time and 33% battery left, running on InsertCoin for att with no mods...
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Perfectly happy with that! The most I've done on my Nexus (checked my logs) was 18h 6m on battery, 5h 58m Screen on (33% brightness though so the screen lost a lot of its luster) which brought it to 11% life...Thats with a 3500mah extended battery however! (so stock is -half- that)
Theoretically with that number, if i drained the One X+ to 11% (For apples to apples) It sounds like it would be roughly the same...
Just an update, Got my One X+ in my hand right now!
Love it so far, my first reaction is HOLY WHAT THE -expletive- with the speed, This thing -flies-
And the screen is gorgeous
and LTE is nice, However i still dont seem to get a reliable LTE connection at my house Bummer, But unlike the S3 its NOT constantly flopping to the weak LTE signal, instead it seems to prefer the strong HSPA+ connection instead, So kudos to HTC for a better modem software!
I came from a GNex too. I'm liking this phone a lot. Having lte and a better camera are a plus, I miss the on screen nav buttons because it was customizable adding buttons or whatnot, but I'm getting used to it. I was debating between s3 or this, and I was absolutely sick of touchwiz which my old skyrocket so I went with htc. I'd much rather have sense than samsung's touchwiz.
BIGSx420 said:
I came from a GNex too. I'm liking this phone a lot. Having lte and a better camera are a plus, I miss the on screen nav buttons because it was customizable adding buttons or whatnot, but I'm getting used to it. I was debating between s3 or this, and I was absolutely sick of touchwiz which my old skyrocket so I went with htc. I'd much rather have sense than samsung's touchwiz.
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I gotta say it blows the S3 out of the water... Only complaint i have is that the volume rocker is a little hard to find (Not a big deal) and it took me a bit to figure out how to turn spellcheck off..
Overall im not hating the Sense look, it looks great to me, The phone is loud (Thank god) and the quality of the external speaker is "meaty" I've watched a youtube video on it and im planning to sit here and drain out my initial charge watching some vids lol..Cant test music yet because i have yet to connect it to Wi-Fi to AirSync to my Doubletwist library...
The Signal strength on it is impressing me, its managing to keep the LTE signal solid in my room despite it not being the strongest signal, if i go downstairs i lose LTE entirely and jump to HSPA+ which isnt bad
As for battery, im using the charge it had on it when i unboxed it, So far so good, it seems to actually be better than the S3 i had, but that could be because HTC's radio optimization (or antenna) are just working a lot smoother, Im not seeing it spasticly jumping from HSPA+ to LTE every 3 seconds
The performance of it has my jaw on the floor though, Google Now is smooth, VERY smooth, the speech to text stuff flies on it, Theres no delay in anything im doing on it and its just amazing me.. I mean i knew itd be fast, but wow, this thing is FAST
-edit- Just put it to charge, no clue what i started with but i brought it down to about 8%, Wanted to drain the initial charge as much asi could before recharging which took about 3.5 hours, So far no complaints, Downloaded the BetterBatteryStats app too so i can get a good read on the battery (As the stock battery info thing isnt as nice as the Nexus' and doesnt show me my screen on time)
KenjiS said:
Just an update, Got my One X+ in my hand right now!
Love it so far, my first reaction is HOLY WHAT THE -expletive- with the speed, This thing -flies-
And the screen is gorgeous
and LTE is nice, However i still dont seem to get a reliable LTE connection at my house Bummer, But unlike the S3 its NOT constantly flopping to the weak LTE signal, instead it seems to prefer the strong HSPA+ connection instead, So kudos to HTC for a better modem software!
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What carrier is your phone and what was the update for?
Andrew149 said:
What carrier is your phone and what was the update for?
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Huh?
Anyways one problem, Google+ is for some reason not letting me pick who to share with (IE which circles and that) it just sits there loading... Already tried clearing data and reinstalling the app a few times.. didnt work...
-edit- Nevermind, got it working, Turned off fast boot/shutdown and it fixed it for some reason (I read it caused issues with stuff somewhere..)
Still breaking it in, But today was the first day i really used it off the charger
Went from 8am to 10pm, Still had 20% left on it, Around 3 hours of screen on time... Certainly wasnt panicking i was going to run dry if i pulled it out to do something, if i go by the battery stats, i averaged 5-6% per hour.. This was me simulating a "normal" day wherein im not using it constantly, Because you know, That kills just about any phone lol
if its like my Nexus was, the first few charges arent as strong as later ones...
I'm really not finding problems with it either...Still running stock FYI
Love the look of the phone too... Sense definiately looks nice.. and im not seeing it hogging resources or anything... My One X+ is nothing but smooth and silky constantly...
Thanks for the updates. I'm still debating what I want to do. So far I'm loving my Note 2, but size is an issue at times. Its biggest pro and con is the screen. Sounds like the one x+ is a really nice phone though.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using Tapatalk 2
Dear dear dear people,
I must have registered here, in Mekka of smart people, cause of last reasons.
I've just bought a brand new HTC ONE X+, I've been gathering money for it for some period of time.
Moreover I'm a huge fan of HTC devices, because before this pfone I had HTC ONE V, HTC DESIRE X, HTC ONE SV (+ 2 more)
BUT when I got this phone Im continously like a WTF WTF WTF, and Im still looking for my fallen jaw.
I never said even one bad word on HTC devices, but I cant understand whats going on with this crappy HTC ONE X+.
Firstly I've been complaining about battery life on my polish android forum and that I've made 5 minutes of calling, 5 sms sent, 0 gaming and 10 minutes of surfing on the net and the phone was capable to stand 11 hours in this usage, BUT i said OK I can handle this !
But also from very beginning I was strong complaining that telephone is very laggish, first ICS was installed and transistions between screens (or desktops) werent smooth at all. Next I upgraded to 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 and still some frames lagging in simple activities, in phonebook, contacts, messaging etc.
Now, the thing which killed me and threw my balls out of the window was when I installed games like ShadowGun and Subway Surfers.
Every phone which I had before wasnt so crappy lagging like this one ! I was playing SS on desire X and ONE SV SUPER SMOOTHLYa nd this phone has quadcore 1.7 GHZ and cant handle such simple game ? Its not unplayable but its far away from smooth and fluent playing...
Damn Im really frightened cause of all this... First time I was considering buying LG Optimus G but Ive chosen this as I have always had HTC devices.
Can some intelligent person explain me whats happening, am i doing sth wrong ? or Im sentenced on always lagging simple games ? So where's that quadcore Nvidia Tegra 1.7 advantages ? Beacuse cmparing simple usage this phone is far behind much older HTC phones.
Now after a week Im thinking about selling this phone
ehhhhhh.....
Paul
Keep power saver mode on at all times. I keep it on even when I play games and it does not lag at all. As another user on this forum said, that option should actually be reversed, as in to keep the phone using only one CPU core at all times, and activate all of them using "Performance Mode".
Are you 100% sure your phone is HTC original? (if it was bought from a well-known retailer that wouldn't be a problem)
Check the IMEI and SN on http://sndeep.info.
Also, go to www.whatismyscreenresolution.com and check if the reported resolution is 1280x720. (most fakes can look, feel and perform almost like the original, but they don't have the exact resolution).
If you don't have any apps running and it still lags, even without power saver (although it shouldn't either way), i'd recommend to return it to the shop, it might be defective.
It is a great phone, I would not change it for anything except the One.
AFAIK the lag in non-tegra/easy cpu-loading games should have been fixed on android 4.2.2, it is related to the tegra SoC scaling the gpu only with the cpu, so if the cpu load is not high enought the gpu power is also smaller, but as fara as I have read most people said it was not happening anymore after the 4.2.2 update.
Also are you sure you are on the ONE X+ and not ONE X or a fake X+, cause the ONE X+ comes with android 4.1.2 JellyBean and not with ICS (android 4.0.x).
I changed mine for a brand new Nexus 4. Best desition I made in terms of mobile technology.
I owned the hox+ for a while, tried android revolution, cm, slim rom and finally I felt in love for aokp.
But the lag and embarrassment still there.
The material quality of the hox+ is by far superior, but the Nexus 4 performance is incredible.
I was really disappointed too, considering the Nexus 4 is older than the hox+.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Hey again,
Thank you very much guys for participating in this topic, I appreciate it.
@thecybo - I've checked the sites youn recommended me and everything is OK, the sites show me it is original ONE X+ and the screen is also OK.
Yeah guys my telephone comes from a big retailer in my country so no doubt its original. It was bought as a BRAND NEW.
Honestly i truly cant believe that a brand new phone can have malfunction or something, I've never had such situation before.
When I first took the phone in my hands there was installed ICS or JB, I'm not sure because I didnt checked it. I just fastly upgraded it to newest software as I wanted check the new Sense 5. So before I upgraded it there were some microlags just from time to time, but even that I was like a "huh ?" In this phone class its unexectable for me. And because of fact that I've loved this phone so much (for design, specifications etc) its even sadder for me. Damnnn....I wanted this phone soo much and now I'm quite dissapointed.
Guys, Im not game type of person but in that situation Ive decided to test some games and see how telephone will handle them and here are the results:
1. Shadowgun: deadzone - medium lags, bigger than on my old HTC ONE SV
2. Real Racing 3 - hmmm I think the game works smoothly, just a small lag from time to time
3. Dead Trigger 2 - this game works the smoothest among all games in my phone; it works great
4. Modern Combat 4 - nice and OK
5. Iron Man 3 - games works weakly, very weakly
6. Asphalt 8 - almost unplayable
When I turned off Asphalt 8 the phone was hugly lagging for 3-4 seconds.
When I was playing these games, the battery consumption was like 1% per minute. Quite big I think.
Guys, can you confrote these with your usage ? Also when I use youtube, internet, facebook then IMHO its not as smooth as it should be.
Damn, Im confused right now, dont know really what to do, Im considering selling this phone (thanks Davirus849 for that Nexus 4 mention, I think I would choose his nearest brother LG Optimus G).
But HONESTLY comparing HTC with LG is like a "pffff" to me, but I think I have no choice now. Ehhhh
It shouldn't behave as you describe. There may be some corrupt user data somewhere particularly considering you have upgraded the OS. Many experienced Android users recommend a factory reset after a system upgrade as there can occasionally be a compatibility issue. These can manifest themselves as lags or poor battery life.
I would recommend you try a factory reset which will wipe all user data. Remember to back up anything you need (contacts, sms messages) first.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk
Y u do dis?
HedPlanet said:
Dear dear dear people,
I must have registered here, in Mekka of smart people, cause of last reasons.
I've just bought a brand new HTC ONE X+, I've been gathering money for it for some period of time.
Moreover I'm a huge fan of HTC devices, because before this pfone I had HTC ONE V, HTC DESIRE X, HTC ONE SV (+ 2 more)
BUT when I got this phone Im continously like a WTF WTF WTF, and Im still looking for my fallen jaw.
I never said even one bad word on HTC devices, but I cant understand whats going on with this crappy HTC ONE X+.
Firstly I've been complaining about battery life on my polish android forum and that I've made 5 minutes of calling, 5 sms sent, 0 gaming and 10 minutes of surfing on the net and the phone was capable to stand 11 hours in this usage, BUT i said OK I can handle this !
But also from very beginning I was strong complaining that telephone is very laggish, first ICS was installed and transistions between screens (or desktops) werent smooth at all. Next I upgraded to 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 and still some frames lagging in simple activities, in phonebook, contacts, messaging etc.
Now, the thing which killed me and threw my balls out of the window was when I installed games like ShadowGun and Subway Surfers.
Every phone which I had before wasnt so crappy lagging like this one ! I was playing SS on desire X and ONE SV SUPER SMOOTHLYa nd this phone has quadcore 1.7 GHZ and cant handle such simple game ? Its not unplayable but its far away from smooth and fluent playing...
Damn Im really frightened cause of all this... First time I was considering buying LG Optimus G but Ive chosen this as I have always had HTC devices.
Can some intelligent person explain me whats happening, am i doing sth wrong ? or Im sentenced on always lagging simple games ? So where's that quadcore Nvidia Tegra 1.7 advantages ? Beacuse cmparing simple usage this phone is far behind much older HTC phones.
Now after a week Im thinking about selling this phone
ehhhhhh.....
Paul
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You just bought a One X+ now? WHY?! The One is newer and superior in every way, and most carriers have stopped supporting this phone for a while now. Why you would think to get a "new" phone that is already about a year old is beyond me. You should have gotten a One or waited for the new M8 (Current One successor).
Moynia said:
You just bought a One X+ now? WHY?! The One is newer and superior in every way, and most carriers have stopped supporting this phone for a while now. Why you would think to get a "new" phone that is already about a year old is beyond me. You should have gotten a One or waited for the new M8 (Current One successor).
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The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
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The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
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In my case, I bought the one x+ in march, just when the latest ONE was launched. If you ask me WHYYYEEE?
Well mate, non removable battery is one thing, but limiting the storage for a high end smartphone is just unacceptable for my wallet! When travelling a lot and 3g not being sufficient + 4g not being deployed everywhere, people need storage. Not only for media consumption but for apps too. I have 25gb of apps installed, (tomtom + navigon anyone, each of them serving in different case scenarios). Add to that my emulator roms + multimedia + the pictures i take and there you have it.
Never have I been able to go below 48gb of used memory out of 64gb (knowing that the one x+ has only 57gb user accessible memory).
I harrassed htc at the time about the availability of the 64gb version of the ONE by mail, phone, Facebook and twitter. The only reason I could get is "selected market" and s#!t.
So where was this damn 64gb version available? 1 carrier exclusive in the US, the developper edition (also us), the removable back model for japan with a sim slot + sd slot and another one with 2 sim slots + 1sd slot (one for china at launch and the other recently announced for the UK).
There you have it, when you buy htc since 2007 and you need a phone that can manage, you don't buy the One, but the one x instead. Sadly, my experience is the same as the OP's (lags and whatever).
My guess, we can blame the processor + unoptimized apps + Google "core" apps updates which get heavyer each time (nothing changed in my usage but the phone lags more overtime no matter how many factory resets I did).
Also, the battery does NOT deliver and there's nothing around it!!! Seriously, even 2d games make the phone get hot as hell and drain the ***** out of juice in no time, 1% of battery per minute doesn't even begin to cover it.
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The logic in your comment is perplexing at best. Why do people buy cheap cars instead of Ferrari's? Why do people buy cheap production PC's instead of custom built monsters? Because not everyone can afford the latest and greatest. The HOX+ is miles cheaper than the One.
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Even still there are many good cheap android phones that you can buy new such as the Moto X and Moto G, and there are older phones that receive more love like the S3.
I got my One X + yesterday.
Been at it today reading on Rooting to make my attempt later, as well as installing apps.
My first impression, it seems to be quite quick, I'm upgrading from HTC Doubleshot (myTouch 4G Slide) and iPhone 4s.
Free RAM seems to be quite low stock, I have about the same free RAM as in the mt4gs. Not much of a mobile game player, the mt4gs handled everything fine especially with the oc (had to remove the original battery cover and use the case cover instead to get rid of some of the heat) including probably the most hungry game I've played which is Need For Speed Most Wanted.
I would be disappointed a bit if the One X+ doesn't perform as well at that. Or lags alot.
I was installing apps on battery *all* day. Where I expected I would have to plug in at some point, the battery is now 63% it was about 76% when I unpacked it. Battery seems to be pleasing for me.
I would have stayed with the mt4gs if I didn't have charging port (battery read /reporting) issues which I will repair as soon as I get the time.
So far though I'm happy with it.
I hope OP get's issues resolved.
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I got my One X + yesterday.
Been at it today reading on Rooting to make my attempt later, as well as installing apps.
My first impression, it seems to be quite quick, I'm upgrading from HTC Doubleshot (myTouch 4G Slide) and iPhone 4s.
Free RAM seems to be quite low stock, I have about the same free RAM as in the mt4gs. Not much of a mobile game player, the mt4gs handled everything fine especially with the oc (had to remove the original battery cover and use the case cover instead to get rid of some of the heat) including probably the most hungry game I've played which is Need For Speed Most Wanted.
I would be disappointed a bit if the One X+ doesn't perform as well at that. Or lags alot.
I was installing apps on battery *all* day. Where I expected I would have to plug in at some point, the battery is now 63% it was about 76% when I unpacked it. Battery seems to be pleasing for me.
I would have stayed with the mt4gs if I didn't have charging port (battery read /reporting) issues which I will repair as soon as I get the time.
So far though I'm happy with it.
I hope OP get's issues resolved.
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Ram can get low, but there are custom kernels which allow you to use some space of your regular memory as ram, but I have not tried that out cause I got a Rom with Sense5 (custom kernels are only available for stock rom or roms with sense 4+, so think twice before updating it.
Playing games is not really my thing, but I noticed that it has quite many fps drops in apps which actually don't require that much power (like Rayman jungle run). That's why I have to change my cpu settings to performance (it's an option in the tweaks of the ViperX+ rom, dunno how to do this on stock). The phone also gets pretty hot, especially when charging it + using it at the same time.
Nevertheless I'm very happy with the OneX+ and I hope you willbe the same
I would hate to go through a factory reset again but I'm getting a bit disappointed myself now. I find the phone does lag a lot and behaves weirdly like slow WiFi connections. Every other device I use magicjack and the calls are good. With the one x + it sounds like a really slow connection. When streaming videos it pauses for buffering like every 10 seconds or so. Only device I experience this with.
I will do as suggested and backup my stuff and do the wipe. Also interested in trying that custom kernel.
Frustrated at this point.
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Ram can get low, but there are custom kernels which allow you to use some space of your regular memory as ram, but I have not tried that out cause I got a Rom with Sense5 (custom kernels are only available for stock rom or roms with sense 4+, so think twice before updating it.
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Nevertheless I'm very happy with the OneX+ and I hope you willbe the same
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Oy. Where can I find such a kernel for my stock Rom with sense 4+ ?
After very tiring searching I only ended up being very confused. All I could come across were ones for sense 5 and others I just can't find links for.
I feel really retarded
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Hi, I bought my HOX+ from a friend a couple of months ago. If you ask why, Because she needed the money and sold it for a very cheap price, not to mention it is still under warranty.
When I got the phone it is already running on 4.2.2 Stock rom and so far it runs pretty smooth
What I like about HOX+ is its solid build, the beats audio and its UI which is better than my previous S3.
I also play games (Injustice, asphalt 8, clash of clans, etc) and so far I never experienced any lags even on power saving mode.
Two things I didn't like about it is the overheating issues (which I never experienced with iphone 4 and S3) and poor battery life.
I'm planning to send it over to HTC regarding the issues but I heard (here in our country) that they have very crappy service. Right now I'm thinking of rooting it instead.
Anyway I hope OP's HOX+ should be fixed soon
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Oy. Where can I find such a kernel for my stock Rom with sense 4+ ?
After very tiring searching I only ended up being very confused. All I could come across were ones for sense 5 and others I just can't find links for.
I feel really retarded
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I'm sorry for you but I can't find the thread anymore, only the one for Sense 5 (Android 4.2.x)
EliteKernel OXP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012320
To the time where I wrote my reply there was a Sense 4+ version of the kernel, but I think the old thread got deleted by the time Nik3r
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Just as an update, I installed MagioROM R1.1 on Sunday. It was easier to do the update than many other tasks that are usually performed on the phone.
As I expected, it turned into an amazing, awesome device. All issues were resolved! Definitely have my donation & seriously the manufacturers should have these guys putting together these devices.
After installing I noticed an update was
Released probably at the same time I was installing. I grabbed that too. Perfect!
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I've had the Note 3 for some time now and even though I love this thing I felt the need to go back to something smaller. I've had a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 4 in the past and just felt the urge to try the alpha. Should be getting it later this afternoon.
I came from an S5. This thing just feels so much better in your hand than 5"+ devices.
How are you able to deal without having no SD slot? my Note 3 has a 128gig mini sd card so going from that to only 32 gigs is a bit of a bummer but I'm hoping I can overlook that.
It doesn't bother me that much tbh. I've had an 32gb LG G2 and a 32gb HTC one before and I never came close to running out of space. I usually keep around 5gb of music on my device and back up my photos to dropbox. The S5 was only 16gb though so I bought an expensive 64gb card for it which is now sitting in my desk drawer!
Came from a Nexus 5. Love the reduction in size.
I don't get the concern about only 32GB really, or not having a micro-SD slot... It supports OTG so I just use my Meenova OTG Micro-SD reader and blam! Instant and removable storage. Job done
I currently own a LG G2 32gb, and cannot wait to buy an Alpha after my vacation! :fingers-crossed:
It seems like a nice device, but I'm wondering how does it really with the S5 and N4. Is it a tweener phone with good specs and storage or is it a stretch to be high end?
Came from G2, before him I had Z2.Two weeks with Z2 and Im sure for me - over 5 inch NEVER Again. Alpha is so so comfortable and very very beutiful ...and luxury.
Sorry for my English!
Using OG pro and planning to get this baby soon.. just waiting for those spare batteries (ZL) to pop up in amazon..
Hello everyone, my first post here in xda. I'm not new to forums or Android or anything -- just haven't joined xda yet. But I've used it for years as a resource.
At any rate, I thought I'd join in the Alpha discussion, since I got one a couple of weeks ago. And indeed, I came from a bigger phone -- the original Samsung Galaxy Note. I was a late adopter to it -- the Note 2 was already one sale, but I preferred its wider-screen aspect ratio, so I got it before they stopped selling it.
I may be a bit older than the average xda member -- part of the reason why I didn't need such a big screen anymore is because "I retired." While working, yes, I spent every lunch hour in my cube browsing the web on the Note, but now that I'm retired, I'm just not doing that anymore. I've gone through far more tablets than phones -- I currently have the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 and the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 LTE. And if I really want a bigger screen, well, I just grab a tablet.
So, when my two-year period was up (I've been with AT&T forever), I felt it was time to take a load out of my pocket, and I was just thrilled to see the Alpha announced just a week or so before my period was up. I wanted a smaller phone, but wasn't seeing anything that I liked much -- until the Alpha was announced.
So far, I'm very happy with the Alpha -- I definitely appreciate the smaller and lighter device in my pocket. And as for the lack of a MicroSD card slot, well, I've got 128-gig cards in both of the tablets -- those are my "massive multimedia devices," whereas the phone is really just, well, "a phone," and something to read e-mail messages on and do a very light bit of web browsing when needed. I had a 32-gig card in my old Note, and I only had about 10 gigs of it filled -- that helped me make the decision that I could live with "only" 32 gigs.
I decided to give myself a 5GB limit on "multimedia files," and I've been able to live with that nicely. I just want a few music files for "demo" purposes -- like connecting to speakers I might want to buy in stores, or to play for friends and family on occasion. I don't need my whole library. The same goes for video files -- I loaded up a few, which will be enough. And I've got a good selection of my pictures loaded up, so I can show those to folks. But, again, I'm well below 5GB, and that's absolutely "enough." And that should leave plenty of room for apps and such, so I have no worries at all about having enough memory for what I want to carry on the phone.
In the end, the Alpha fits my needs just about perfectly -- far better than any other phone available at this time. I'm happy with the little bugger.
thoots
imi coming from the nexus 5, glad to be going back to a smaller phone.
For me it seems very small as I am using my daughter's to get a feel for it.
alpha is a small phone. Smaller then the nexus 4 which has the same screen size but felt alot better in my hands.
Before the Alpha I had the OnePlus One. Even with my big hands the One was too big. I tried the Nexus 5 but at the end the Alpha was the best compromise. For me 4.7" screen is the best size.
i come from the HTC m8 ... so I'm a little bit spoiled concerning "perfect ui experience", lagless workflow, recharging every 1-2 days...
at least the interface feels lagless, but the battery is a mess and the ui is cluttered. still trying to get along. BUT now i can use the phone with one hand (which simply wasnt possible with the m8).
the feel of the m8 was better then the alpha but its way lighter which makes it easier to hold for a long time (f.e.: reading in bed).
overall really nice phone with problems where u can only shake your head and ask yourself why a company with so much experience would for example add a battery that lasts exactly 8 hours (while the m8 with the same usage would last at least 24 hours).
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i come from the HTC m8 ... so I'm a little bit spoiled concerning "perfect ui experience", lagless workflow, recharging every 1-2 days...
at least the interface feels lagless, but the battery is a mess and the ui is cluttered. still trying to get along. BUT now i can use the phone with one hand (which simply wasnt possible with the m8).
the feel of the m8 was better then the alpha but its way lighter which makes it easier to hold for a long time (f.e.: reading in bed).
overall really nice phone with problems where u can only shake your head and ask yourself why a company with so much experience would for example add a battery that lasts exactly 8 hours (while the m8 with the same usage would last at least 24 hours).
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Agreed. Thankfully there appears to be a bigger capacity battery kit coming out soon.
I never really had a problem with Touchwiz when I had a Note 3, but with the Alpha I am getting quite a bit of choppiness and can only contribute it to the extra bloat on this phone (along with AT&T's).
My most recent Android phone was the OnePlus One, and as great as that phone was, I couldn't get over the large size.
The Alpha will be my favorite phone as soon as the battery kit is released and someone finds a way to unlock the boot loader on the AT&T version of the Alpha.
u coming from note3 and choppiness on Alpha ?
may be , u are using S801 version of alpha or something wrong with ur phone .
I will soon buy Alpha , but I have used my friend's Alpha Exynos 5430 version , he is coming from Note3 too and I think his alpha Exynos is Faster and smoother than note3 and even S5 also .
If I get an Alpha it will by necessity be the 801 because
as far as I know, the only way to get LTE here, and will
need the Canada Bell unlocked version for Metro/TMo
Bands.
The UI is kind of a maze with the short time,I played with Alpha , without rooting, can most of that be straightened out ? Lol.
What do you guys think the SOT will be with the Samsung 2500 mah battery on the Qualcomm 801 ¿
came from note 3 with lot of features but i rarely use those...so alpha is perfect for me