Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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If you get flex 2 you will cry even more about roms....Imo g2 isnt supported like htc devices, i mean that many roms and that many customisation options especialy Venom roms, thats why i liked htc that much, also htc has best looking UI in my eyes, next is G3 Ui, thats why i got g2, cuz i could afford only htc one m7 which has bad camera and snapdragon 600 for preety much same price (used), and i am totally happy with my decision. If you want more roms, buy htc m9 and enjoy
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Yeah. the HTC M8 has definitely been looking like a good option.
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Good phone, but i dont see it like some nice "upgrade" from g2.....
The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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I have a G Pro 2.
Well, that's the most unsupported smartphone I ever had
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The thing is that htc phone have been getting modded for a long time now. With the likes of AndroidRevolutionHD (ARHD), Insertcoin, Venom (formerly pokemon rom i think) these guys have been working on htc phones for years and know htc sense well, coupled with unlockable bootloaders and htc's usually great build quality these developers have no real need to move elsewhere. They do great work just as our developers do but our developers have a different ball game to play. Locked bootloaders are a dev headache. Delayed source code is a headcahe. While the roms may be beta and alpha here its not fair to say this phone/oem is bad for flashing as the developers may not want to leave beta before all bugs are fixed (and some bugs can be damn stubborn). This coupled with the speed google releases new android versions and peoples lust to have the latest and greatest time for development roms often get left as beta/stable and people move on to the next port/source compile of android. I find alot of the time beta roms are perfectly acceptable for daily drivers but my logic would suggest if theres a bug it should be beta (although oems dont seem to obide to that ). Not to mention to alot of people this is a hobbie not a job, life gets in the way of hobbies.
With that said, i do agree that the m8 doesnt feel like much of a step up from here. Maybe you should hang around here flashing roms until the next HTC upgrade comes along and jump to that? At this point i think its fair to say that the latest htc phone will be supported by the big teams, it will most likely gain s-off and support multirom and the forums will most likely be rammed as usual with people who are new and not so eager to read before flashing
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Well said :good:
Far from it. With the LG G2, there are probably more unique options than any other (non-nexus) phone. It can run the skinned G2 software, stock or tweaked. You can flash the skinned G3 software with an updated look. You can flash the LG Flex software. You can run Stock Android in 4.4.4 or 5.0.2 as it's similiarities with the Nexus 5 makes it easier to develop.
I will concede that within skinned roms, the updates are rarer... that will most likely change in the next two months as LG's Official 5.0 updates will go through more optimization until it works as a dev thinks it should.
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Is the G2 the worst phone for flashing? Most G2 ROMS are alpha or beta a year and half later. Now it could be a LG thing because the G3 doesn't seem to be much better. Given the track record with this phone would any of you actually think about a Flex 2 or G4?
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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I had many HTC phones and the main thing is they abandon their phones quickly. Or at least they did as of One X+. Every phone, we'd have the promise of official firmware for a new version of android and at the last minute the phone would be eol'd.
I guess the gpe phones might help porting new stock firmware? Not sure since I left HTC after the one x+. Also, I found HTC phones bricked easy and unbricking was difficult.
But man, sense has always looked the best, and viper rom is always amazing.
But I like lg because the stock firmware doesn't even make me want to mod it. Every other brand I've had (Sony, Motorola), the stock firmware left something to be desired.
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My previous phone was HTC One X, HTC said they wanted to update it to 4.4.2 but nvidia dropped support for its tegra socket, so they didnt have drivers to do that, but i see that htc one m7 is doing good, it will get lolipop till end of next month, so i think they got better with updates, at least thats almost 2 years of fast updates what you want more? Even google haven't updated their galaxy nexus cuz of dropped socket support...
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I think the HTC flagships having the GPE editions give them an advantage if you don't like dealing with hardware compatibility issues the CM, AOSP etc ROMS can have.
The # of models of the G2 doesn't help much.. Daily CM 12's right now for just the one edition IIRC?
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I've heard the Verizon model has super sweet CM12 support and everything just amazing works perfectly. I haven't tried it yet but there are several Lollipop roms for the VS980 model, which is what I have and follow dev for.
The amount of number of various models doesn't help, although by now most roms support all variants with options to select your model for the fine tweaks each different model requires. The only model that has issues is the Verizon one using generic roms. It seems the stock Messaging app doesn't like to do MMS (I think because Verizon uses IMS). Not that there are road blocks. Lots of ports have fine tuned Verizon editions with everything working. I am personally loving the G3 Verizon rom port. It has everything I want/need and no issues.
I agree that the LG G2 does have plenty of options to choose from and it isn't just Stock or AOSP or CM.
I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
Actually I disagree. Yes G2 is not the best in the field of development and flashing but compared to many other flagships, I prefere it. Take a look at development section of exynous version of samsung flagships. Also there is no bootloader lock or knox or... Here
So that's one of the reasons after messing around with a few phones, including note3, nexus 5, G3 and one m7, I came back to g2
undeadking said:
Coming from the Rezound and then the Razr MAXX HD, the G2 is My Flash Dream!!!! Roms, kernels,and mods- the ease of it all is ridiculously great(specially being virtually unbrickable)!
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When flashing pay attention to model/variant you have, you can end with brick if you select wrong model.
I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I would not see any problem with my flash addict, if camera quality weren't that bad on AOSP roms. It's the only reason why I'm not swapping roms like crazy. I hope Lollipop will somehow change it (dreaming).
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That is the problem with any other phone too unless nexus or cyanogen inc phones.
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I would not call it the worst phone but it definitely doesn't have the support the old school Galaxy S2 Skyrocket have, I'm still flashing on that thing even though I'm not using. G2 has a ton of alpha and beta roms but very few official stable roms. I'm almost ready to go back to iPhone if these Android phones keep having short-lived ROM support
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I suggest you stick to Nexus devices, which is what I'll do once I sell my G2. They tend to have the best action, but I have yet to see a new community with the variety of ROMs that the HTC G1 had...
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totally hoping that the new rumors that LG will build a Nexus phone are true, and hoping it will be a real phone and that stupid Nexus 6
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I've been lurking the Desire X forum for some time now, and I'm getting my own DX in a few days. Something I've noticed is the slow development for this device, lack of S-OFF, and no official support from CM, AOKP and so on.
This is slightly worrying, since the device has already been out for about 6 months now. Is this too short of a period for development to pick up more quickly? Or is it just not as popular as other devices?
The DX is the only affordable dual core device I can get at the moment and I'm really hoping development will pick up soon.
PS - thumbs up to all the developers currently contributing to this device, keep up the great work :good:
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I've been lurking the Desire X forum for some time now, and I'm getting my own DX in a few days. Something I've noticed is the slow development for this device, lack of S-OFF, and no official support from CM, AOKP and so on.
This is slightly worrying, since the device has already been out for about 6 months now. Is this too short of a period for development to pick up more quickly? Or is it just not as popular as other devices?
The DX is the only affordable dual core device I can get at the moment and I'm really hoping development will pick up soon.
PS - thumbs up to all the developers currently contributing to this device, keep up the great work :good:
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You asked 2 questions:
1. Is this too short of a period for development to pick up more quickly?
No, its a long long time. Some flagship devices get all above you mentioned within a month. But mid-range phones are not so lucky. Browse the sony/samsung/lge MID-RANGE sets, and i repeat MID-RANGE, and you'll see that they are even handicapped than us. This phone is getting 4.1.1 officially and in my opinion have no reason not to get 4.2 as well. (5.0 will be a dream)
2. Or is it just not as popular as other devices?
See above. Its a mid-range device with satisfactory performance. The design and build makes it look costly and so our expectations rise. I dont deny that HTC have recently not been as consumer-friendly as they used to be, but thats that.
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Developers still waiting for JB kernel sources
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Developers still waiting for JB kernel sources
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JB kernel sources dont explain the lack of interest dear.
The ICS kernel sources are out and ONLY ONE developer did something with it. Even if JB sources are revealed soon, it does not guarantee that more developers will come (and i mean AOSP developers).
But i hope u r right.
Not to be antagonistic but it's a pretty poor phone with a dearth of support from HTC to begin with. There won't be a surge of development, for a number of reasons.
I'm not even starting on this phone as I'm already sick of it and looking to sell.
You're better off with a flagship, popular phone if you want many roms. Ideally not a HTC. Sorry to be so negative.
Yes, but how do you explain tha for instance HTC Desire is no flagship but has so many Custom ROMs and official CM too... I think it also depends on support, literally speaking, how many people are using that brand of phone and how much is it favourite...
HTC Desire X
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melendi said:
Yes, but how do you explain tha for instance HTC Desire is no flagship but has so many Custom ROMs and official CM too... I think it also depends on support, literally speaking, how many people are using that brand of phone and how much is it favourite...
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HTC DESIRE WAS A FLAGSHIP. Make no mistakes about it. At its time of release, it was THE MOST POPULAR android device and from then on, it got SO many devs that still its going strong.
Just check some of the features which our 3-year newer device desire x doesnt have.
1. Multiple colored led lights. (4 +)
2. Digital compass
Plus these things which were awesome in 2010.
512MB ram AT THAT TIME 2010. Even now, 512 is not found on every phone.
AMOLED screen
GPS/FM/BT/WIFI all radio related sensors. We are still stuck on the same sensors in 2013. no nfc, no dual camera.
5MP camera. We still have the same MP sensor even though its much much better.
What i wanna say is, Desire X is not a flagship, so dont treat it like one. You spent less money so expect less.
Strictly speaking, for its price, its a very good phone IMHO.
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i dont think it really matters whether a phone is mid range or high end all that matters is how famous the device and how much devs support it i have a galaxy mini not a flagship phone but intensely popular and it has unofficial cm10.1 til date running on a 600 mhz processor our desire x is way better and gives a better bang for buck than any htc phone :highfive::highfive:
melendi said:
Yes, but how do you explain tha for instance HTC Desire is no flagship but has so many Custom ROMs and official CM too... I think it also depends on support, literally speaking, how many people are using that brand of phone and how much is it favourite...
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HTC desire is first real android smartphone, first nexus released, basicaly only option in its time... maybe it isnt now, but it was best phone avaliable out there 3 years back
btw I had lcd display (you mentioned amoled), it was so much fun when I flashed amoled rom
Just look at the HTC explorer, i sold mine at the time due to lack of development at the time (nothing but jaggyrom i think) but within a few months development was booming and now I'm kicking myself
BatEarsJoe said:
Just look at the HTC explorer, i sold mine at the time due to lack of development at the time (nothing but jaggyrom i think) but within a few months development was booming and now I'm kicking myself
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Well then, we shall wait for u to leave desire x and all will be rosy (kidding).
BatEarsJoe said:
Just look at the HTC explorer, i sold mine at the time due to lack of development at the time (nothing but jaggyrom i think) but within a few months development was booming and now I'm kicking myself
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The current owner of Jaggy rom aka danceoff also bought this phone! He will also start making roms after a week.
I have been in contact with 2 devs who are buying this phone. So we are soon going to have rapid development(I am also making cm roms and kernels for this phone)
I think the main reason for lack of development is that there are no current devices that possess the same soc thus new base has to be created from scratch and the work for older devices cant be used.Atis112 succeeded in doing that so i think development should increase in frequency for this device.
PS this is my opinion not sure its correct or not.Though its mainly based on my experience tinkering with my galaxy fit.
hopefully we have a rise in developers(though current number is healthy so wait for summers i guess).Cause All i need is a stable cm built and im happy:fingers-crossed:
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The current owner of Jaggy rom aka danceoff also bought this phone! He will also start making roms after a week.
I have been in contact with 2 devs who are buying this phone. So we are soon going to have rapid development(I am also making cm roms and kernels for this phone)
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DanceOff is cool. He's always in the OT...
Great points Dark Passenger.
Worth reiterating there's some great devs still here working away. I'm sure patience and support will be rewarding.
IMHO, the one and only HTC flagman and inspiration for all custom ROM makers is HTC HD2. Just take a look, how many custom roms on all the kinds of OS it has!!!!111 I had one since 2009, but I've decided to give it to wife, she likes it very much.
RossFixxed said:
I'm not even starting on this phone as I'm already sick of it and looking to sell.
You're better off with a flagship, popular phone if you want many roms. Ideally not a HTC. Sorry to be so negative.
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Personally, I find performance more important features. I think this goes for many other people that bought the DX as well, who wanted value for money. As you can see from my sig, I'm moving over from its predecessor, HTC Desire S. Take a look at the Development Index - it may have been a mid range HTC but there was a lot of development being done.
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The current owner of Jaggy rom aka danceoff also bought this phone! He will also start making roms after a week.
I have been in contact with 2 devs who are buying this phone. So we are soon going to have rapid development(I am also making cm roms and kernels for this phone)
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If by "this phone" you mean the Desire X, then this is very good news. I look forward to these developments. Looks like there may be more devs coming to the DX :good:
prototype-U said:
The current owner of Jaggy rom aka danceoff also bought this phone! He will also start making roms after a week.
I have been in contact with 2 devs who are buying this phone. So we are soon going to have rapid development(I am also making cm roms and kernels for this phone)
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Dark Passenger said:
I think the main reason for lack of development is that there are no current devices that possess the same soc thus new base has to be created from scratch and the work for older devices cant be used.Atis112 succeeded in doing that so i think development should increase in frequency for this device.
PS this is my opinion not sure its correct or not.Though its mainly based on my experience tinkering with my galaxy fit.
hopefully we have a rise in developers(though current number is healthy so wait for summers i guess).Cause All i need is a stable cm built and im happy:fingers-crossed:
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This is great news !!!
I'm also planning on getting this device within a few weeks !!!
I was a little hesitant on buying this phone due to lack of Activity and Deving [There was lot's of Activity and development going in my previous phone's thread i.e. Galaxy Ace ...]
But,
Now that many people are purchasing this phone and some Senior Dev's are coming , I guess this Forum will also have lot's of Activity !!!
I'll also start deving after this device gets Cm10 !!!
The "A" Factor said:
I'll also start deving after this device gets Cm10 !!!
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Don't get me wrong here
I thought the word deving is for
0 -> deving -> CM10
After there is CM10
CM10 -> modding/kanging -> various
So what neXusPRME and atis112 is doing now is deving
I'm pretty sure modding is still considered development
Hey guys,
I know the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) is coming out in a few days but was wondering whether there is anything I would be missing out on if I had the nexus version.
Even upon doing lots of research, it seems like Sense 5 is very good but I wanted your guy's experiences. (ex: one of the links I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121382-htc-one-google-edition-vs-htc-one-what-s-the-difference)
Is there any advantage of waiting for the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) and the current version? What are the things I should consider?
I was looking around at the ROMs for the T-Mobile HTC One, and none of them seemed to have Sense 5...so is sense really that bad / worse than stock?
Thanks so much!
You'll miss so much if you buy the regular Tmobile One! You'll miss not having Zoe, blinkfeed, wifi calling, htc remote, and all the sense improvements that you can easily disable by simply flashing a different rom...
I think it's silly that they made a vanilla One, you get the same phone but none of the surprisingly nice software that HTC made for it. It's like buying a "special" pair of shoes, and by "special" I mean they don't come with shoelaces.
I have used the HTC remote feature several times once set up works perfectly, also I don't think the camera will be as good seeing as technically it is 4.3mp with out the software enhancements it might be crappy as well the WiFi calling comes in handy so much and I had the nexus 4 on T-Mobile HTC one in my opinion is smoother than stock which is hard to find they did really well with every aspect of this phone
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Hm.
But I was worried about the fact that updates are super slow to come from Tmobile.
We aren't even at 4.2.2 yet and if Sense 5 is so great how come we don't have Sense 5 roms in the development sections? (side note, what is "android development" vs "ORIGINAL android development").
I figured if Sense 5 was so good and better than stock, then we would have lots of Sense 5 roms.
Thanks!
There are a lot of sense 5 roms,And good ones I've been using sense 5 roms running 4.2.2 and couldn't be happier,a few good ones to check out are (venom)vipor, trickdroid, sentinel,opencoin plus quite a few more these are just the ones I ran and use the venom as my daily driver and love it so much this Rom is so customizable it'll blow your mind and stable,fast I just live it plus great dev abd support again I wouldnt give up my ir,camera software,BoomSound plus more for vanilla android
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There are a lot of sense 5 roms,And good ones I've been using sense 5 roms running 4.2.2 and couldn't be happier,a few good ones to check out are (venom)vipor, trickdroid, sentinel,opencoin plus quite a few more these are just the ones I ran and use the venom as my daily driver and love it so much this Rom is so customizable it'll blow your mind and stable,fast I just live it plus great dev abd support again I wouldnt give up my ir,camera software,BoomSound plus more for vanilla android
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I see...do the M7 roms work or are you referring to our roms in the T-mobile HTC One sections? (I guess when I searched the titles and front pages of the roms, I didn't find anything when I searched "sense").
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I see...do the M7 roms work or are you referring to our roms in the T-mobile HTC One sections? (I guess when I searched the titles and front pages of the roms, I didn't find anything when I searched "sense").
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M7 is the proper name for our phones just go under HTC one in the forums not specific tmobile HTC one most are for all carriers except sprint but it'll tell u I love the vipor rom
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RepusJonathan said:
Hey guys,
I know the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) is coming out in a few days but was wondering whether there is anything I would be missing out on if I had the nexus version.
Even upon doing lots of research, it seems like Sense 5 is very good but I wanted your guy's experiences. (ex: one of the links I read:
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/121382-htc-one-google-edition-vs-htc-one-what-s-the-difference)
Is there any advantage of waiting for the nexus version of the HTC One (T-mobile) and the current version? What are the things I should consider?
I was looking around at the ROMs for the T-Mobile HTC One, and none of them seemed to have Sense 5...so is sense really that bad / worse than stock?
Thanks so much!
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Well, you can do what I did... and I really like Sense 5 with one exception: we can only scroll left to right, and right to left. No continuous scroll. So I installed Nova Launcher, the sunbeam live wallpaper, and an analog clock. Look and feel is like GPE, but I still have an icon to get into blink feed, And I still have Zoe and Video highlights.
Try it.
-T
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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its tough call on which device is easier to root...
as far as developer support is concerned, I for one hope to get the Z2, the FreeXperia team (CM devs) [they get devices directly from Sony] will be supporting it, so there will be official CM support, AOSP/AKOP will be supported [Sony gives devices to these devs too]... other than these there would be a lot of other devs also picking up this phone... so that should give you a good idea...
BTW, in general, Sony devices have lesser developer support as compared to other flagships of HTC & Samsung...
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bazzanaja said:
I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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If u wanna phone or device for developing nothing can replace by Nexus or GPE devices
btw famous custom roms are supported for almost of sony and htc and also samsung devices.
and rooting; as u know almost of time u don't need to do anything for rooting ur android. there always a tool from devs that u use some keys and done!
and suggest u to go for xperia z2 (generally cause i will go for it )
Most likely the HTC M8.
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i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
I'm currently trying to decide between the Z2 and M8. Coming from S3 with literally massive dev support, I can see that the M8 is likely to get more dev support than the Z2, but as long as there is some decent stock based ROMs and decent AOSP/CM ROMs then I'd be happy on the Z2.
I do keep reading about broken camera on custom Kernels (on Z1) though. Is this likely to be the case on the Z2?
I've never been on Sony before, so it is new ground to me...
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i havent owned any HTC or Sony devices, but their rooting instructions are somewhat complicated comparing to Samsung, not sure where you are getting that Samsungs are hard to root/unlock. Now, they all can be rooted. just that Sony and HTC are a little harder because:
Sony have a protected system partition where it stores its camera drivers, you might have to restore that partition after rooting/unlocking the bootloader, so to install custom ROM you required extra steps and AFAIK the camera wont work the same due to the lack of drivers in custom roms.
HTC they have some extra security for their bootloader it seems (S-ON/S-OFF, google that) but they support most custom ROMs. Just gotta deal with that BS.
Samsung, their main issue is their Qualcom drivers are closed source, so you might have a buggy bluetooth/camera/video driver at first until some devs are able port/improve the original driver to use with AOSP (kind of).
Just got rid of my S4 one month ago since my job got my an iPhone :crying: I am going to get the Z2 even if they dont have as much custom ROM love as the others, but I am tired of Samsung already. Im thinking of either replacing my Nexus 5 or get rid of the iPhone and stay with the Z2 and the N5. That way i can satisfy my flashing and hacking needs with the N5 while having a premium device such as the Z2.
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It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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It really depends because you can just unlock the bootloader and flash a recovery without having to S-OFF if you just want root and custom ROMs for an HTC. Samsung is generally more frustrating because they don't really merge device trees and there are many variants of the phone itself all over the world. Used to own the Exnyos S4 and it was development hell .-. So I switched to the HTC One and I got what I wanted. In currently S-ON and I would only S-off to change CIDs and such. It's quite dangerous to S-ON again from an S-OFF as well. Something to consider if you plan to get an HTC.
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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I plan to buy a Z2 because it has the specs, the functionality and we are gonna have some hands on good devs from the start of development. I truly believe that its the Z2s time to shine as its such a beautiful phone that's hopefully gonna get alot of development. The M8 is meh. I'm an HTC Fan but honestly the m8 doesn't look all too good and I had much higher expectations for HTCs new flagship
Happy Flashing from the proud owner of a HTC One.
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The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
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The htc m8 like you said doesnt seem too impressive specially spec wise, but i have a feeling it will get a much bigger development support. Not to mention that sony is going to release another flagship in 6 months.
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True... After a while I am considering that a snapdragon 805 might do better. Not much innovation is going on with the current flagships and i think 2014 is going to be a pretty boring tech year for phones and wearables are coming in. I'm a proud owner of the HTC M7 and ive seen the leaks of the M8 im finding the speaker grills look weird and there is no use of the bottom bezel. I have to be honest the M8 looks terrible compared to the HTC One and all these flagships are carrying the 801's which are just a bump up... I think i might wait...
Nah, the M8 will have more support (and legs) due to the fact that it has a GPE version. They are already committed to updating it to the latest version of android for two years. This will be ported across for most of the other variants just like it was on the one and that work will be available not long after the GPE hits the street as the same dev already has it in the works and is just waiting for a dump. Meanwhile here you have a phone that will already be old and pathetic when the 3 comes out on its fancy smanchy 805 chipset before the end of the year.
I bought in here guys so don't get me wrong. I feel this phone will have plenty enough support but if that were my main criteria I would have went with the M8.
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I'm deciding between these two and I like to put custom roms on my phone. From what I know, both Sony and HTC are pretty easy to root and support devs (much better than Samsung I guess), but which one would have more roms and easily rootable?
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HTC cannot be Compared to Sony for the Quality of the Build Materials but for Developing Section HTC is more far away from Sony.
So if you want have Software support for your device buy Nexus or HTC, if you want have the feeling of an amazing quality phone in your hand, buy Sony.
Hello!
I was thinking about buying the LG G R Smartwatch, but it needs android 4.3 and the HTC one x+ (no carrier) I have is 4.2 - What would be a recommended way of upgrading? I'm happy enough with the 4.2, the only specific reason to upgrade would be to get the smartwatch thing going. So a 4.3 (or later) that is closer (and stable) to the default that comes with the HTC One X+ would be best.
Thank you very much.
Hi,
Have you ever flashed a rom before?
Did you look around the android development section for a rom?
I do recommend going with something like Cyanogenmod 11 but its a lot different from stock.
I have the LG G watch r and its great definitely worth it if you want to spend a bit more money compared to the others.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I have installed custom roms in my HTC desires, rooted my nexus tablet, etc... While I have next to no knowledge of these things, usually the procedures are very well explained in xda and if I follow the instructions carefully and everything ends up working, even when I don't necessarily understand what I'm doing.
I'm quite happy with my HTC One X+, there's no real feature I'd be missing (usually I play a little bit more with phones that are near the end of their life cycle) so the only reason to do this would be to be compatible with the LG Smartwatch.
I too have the same problem. I'll be receiving my Moto 360 pretty soon, and I need to find a stable 4.3/4.4 ROM for the One X+. Until now, I must say that nothing runs as smooth as a Sense ROM... Not to mention the battery life. I'm now running the latest version of CarbonROM, and while it's fast most of the time, is does lag from time to time.
I'll try CM11 and OmniROM, but I'm afraid I'll end up disappointed and in need of purchasing another phone, just to be able to use a smartwatch. It's such a pity HTC didn't at least give us 4.3 with Sense 5...
Maybe it will be realistic to wait for the android L to come to the x+ ?
Given that 4.3/4.4 ROM run as they do, I highly doubt any 5.0 ROM would run better in any way. Call me pessimistic, but the device was left running on 4.2.2, which is 3 generations behind Lollipop. So I won't hold my breath for great performance on 5.0.
But I really hope I am (proven?) wrong.
Well to be honest I don't really want a lot of change, just the things that make it possible to use a smartwatch - maybe Lollipop will attract more people and good things will come? I really only needed those notifications things and bluetooth low power to communicate better with the watch, I'm very happy with the one x+ otherwise, and can't find a reason to upgrade to another phone...
If I had an android wear device, it would make my life easier...Anyone know where I can get a cheap one? We will get L, just not sure in what shape yet....
Wel Lloir, I think LG G Watch and the Samsung Gear Live are kind of cheaper now. I paid 249.99$ + taxes for the Moto 360 (aprox. 273$), I am now waiting for it to come from the US (a friend is visiting, and she bought it). The G Watch should be around 150$.
I reiterate my statement above, I am pretty sure we will get L (either from you, or other developer), but it still won't run like Sense 5 on 4.2.2. I so hate HTC for not giving us a 4.3 ROM, just for Wear support.
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Wel Lloir, I think LG G Watch and the Samsung Gear Live are kind of cheaper now. I paid 249.99$ + taxes for the Moto 360 (aprox. 273$), I am now waiting for it to come from the US (a friend is visiting, and she bought it). The G Watch should be around 150$.
I reiterate my statement above, I am pretty sure we will get L (either from you, or other developer), but it still won't run like Sense 5 on 4.2.2. I so hate HTC for not giving us a 4.3 ROM, just for Wear support.
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What other developer? Pippo won't do it because he doesn't have the device (And blind deving with a new source is painful) it's just me.....
Though I can't see me getting an Android wearable at that price :/ I'll see what I can do for you though.
I guess I'll go the cyanogenmod 10.2 route for now, seems stable enough and with 4.3. It would be a lot nice if HTC would do a 4.3 upgrade for the one x+ but I really don't see that coming
Didn't CM 10.2 have some sort of a Bluetooth issue on the One X+?
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I guess I'll go the cyanogenmod 10.2 route for now, seems stable enough and with 4.3. It would be a lot nice if HTC would do a 4.3 upgrade for the one x+ but I really don't see that coming
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You can try PureAosp 4.3 if you want super stability.
Isn't it the pureaosp 4.3 that has bluetooth issues?
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Isn't it the pureaosp 4.3 that has bluetooth issues?
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what bluetooth issue I updated it last week when I remembered about said issue
Alrighty then, pure aosp4.3 it is. I'll have to try it tomorrow because the instructions don't seem so easy for my sleep deprived brain right now The audio is the only thing that no custom rom has managed at 100% right? Anyway many thanks for the good work!
Tried CM 10.2 yesterday after I posted the above message, and I must say I am impressed with the speed and stability.
No offence Lloir about your work on 4.4.4, but 4.3.1 is so much better and stable on the HOX+. I'll try Pure ASOP 4.3 in the following days.
For a moment there, I was already thinking of buying a used One M7, but after seeing the stability of 4.3 I will definitely hold off.
I know LG has confirmed Lollipop next year for the G2 but is it possible for Lollipop to be ported from another device? (Like the Nexus 5)
Or do we have to wait for LG to release some sort of source/kernal?
Just wondering
The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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The G3 will get it by the end of this year, most likely we'll get a port from that
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That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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That's still running LG UI though. Could stock Lollipop be ported earlier?
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Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
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Ofcourse.itll be out in a few days.aosp source code is out
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You sure about that? I mean I'm no code builder but I figured that would take a while, thatd be great if your right tho.
I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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I'd definitely consider going AOSP Lollipop as its aesthetically pleasing. Never really liked AOSP Kitkat
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My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
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My Shield Tablet is getting the Lollipop update this month, so it would be cool to keep the UI standardized between my G2 and that. A CM12 version of Lollipop would be nice, but I want a straight up AOSP version so bad! Nvidia's barely touched version of Android is way nicer after I rooted it and installed xposed compared to CM11. Perfection on the G2 would be if LG releases Lollipop for the G2 and someone did something like the de-Sensed ROM's on the HTC phones. Strip off the LG UI and keep the it pure Android, but with all the LG stuff under the hood so we still have good camera performance and less issues.
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With multitasking and being able to rearrange/hide nav bar ??
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S3 Mini just got a L port... I'm sure we'll have something soon.
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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My nexus 4 have prepared already few version of Lollipop but my G2 still on 4.4.2. Devs, please port Lollipop for us.
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Does anybody know a few Devs who's maybe can try to work on a port?
I'd be happy to help with the testing. I WANT LOLLIPOP ON MY D802 SO MUCH!!
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I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
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antoyn said:
I am quite worried if art mode will result in long boot time on android l as android 4.4 does or not.
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Early reports on Nexus 7 suggest that boot times and overall performance have greatly increased.
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I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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I've used Lollipop on my Nexus 5 since the first dev preview was released. ART results in a long first boot because it is compiling the runtime cache for each app. Every boot after that should be the same or better as Dalvik used to be. It is the same as it was on KitKat, with LRX21M the N5 boots in about 3-5 seconds. 5.0 gives crazy performance improvements, especially on older devices like the Nexus 10 (KitKat performance was okay at best). It will definitely be worth it.
Question is, how possible is it? I sold the G2 in April because of all the kernel issues and loki patches LG made. How unlocked is this device at this point? For me, AOSP ROMs had issues galore(GPS, freezing, etc.) because of the lack of source, and certain radios had loki patches in them(ZVA,ZVC etc.). Even ROMs were dropping support for the G2 due to kernel issues. Remember that the stock Google kernel CANNOT obtain root on Lollipop, a custom kernel is required, preferably with SELinux set to permissive. On Nexus that has been achieved because of the unlocked bootloader allowing for the flashing of .imgs. If the kernel needs to be in-line with LG source + bootloader, I highly doubt that root would be easy to obtain...
Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
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Nicely said. I don't have an option, though. Meh.
I think we should see how the G3 goes with rooting when Lollipop hits.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
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Yeah, that's been my experience while looking for stable custom Roms. It appears, g2 is best used as stock or sold (although I have the highest regard for all the devs who worked countless hours to bring us all the custom goodness on g2). But it appears most devs are moving to other platforms starting 5.0. I hate stock OS so much that selling the device looks to be my next best option, but there's just no clear winner\awesome device to push me over the edge (thanks google for ur 6 inch monster - now even the nexus is out).
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Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?[/QUOTE]
We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
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Yeah, uh. It appears the second half of my post was cut out.
I'll just retype it here:
It's very possible. People can do what Cyanogen did with CM11. It's not very unlocked, really. Nothing has really changed since Loki was released. AOSP ROMs have been better recently, but the camera is pretty bad.
Everything is exploitable. Perhaps they'll figure out how to get out of the sandbox. Just look at iOS, for example.
Now, since since Lollipop kernel sources will likely be open, people can probably create a flashable zip of a Lollipop OTA and remove that part of the kernel that prevents rooting. People can always use the flash tool tip restore to an older version and then use AutoRec.
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He was asking a question. If you have no answer whatsoever it would be best to just hit thanks and not post.
Again...no answer.
I havent seen a single developer depart recently for 5.0 besides madhi i believe, though i wouldn't be surprised if he was working on some kind of port!
QUOTE=Koopa777;56618788]Basically, what is the status of the G2 at this point?
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We have some core developers like @dorimanx and all the other cool cats who maintain huge multiplatform roms. I'm going to attempt porting lolli to the g2 right now. The repository is syncing, i have lg kitkat source and @dr87 has sources for porting roms within kitkat.
I can extrapolate and figure out how to rebase it on 5.0, but many developers will do so before me. Things arent that bad really for the G2, id say they are WAY better than they were 6 months ago.[/QUOTE]
The LG G3 Lollipop ROM got leaked today. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lollipop-lg-g3-leak/ Is it possible to use ButtyG3 as a base to bring in Lollipop?