Hey guys. This is my first posting a thread here. I have a Verizon LG G3. Last night, it accidentally had dropped into the toilet, and I quickly picked it. Checked the phone, and there was no visible moisture damage in the front of the screen. Removed the cover off the back of the phone, and there a tiny bit of moisture around the flash, but the battery and everything around it was dry.. The indicators inside the battery holders are still red x's with a white background, and they are dry. The phone still worked like normal, and didn't short over night. 14 hours later, it was still working normally, but for preventative measures I went ahead, and took out the battery and turn off the phone.
At this point, am I out of the woods or is there anything else I need to do?
rayvocal said:
Hey guys. This is my first posting a thread here. I have a Verizon LG G3. Last night, it accidentally had dropped into the toilet, and I quickly picked it. Checked the phone, and there was no visible moisture damage in the front of the screen. Removed the cover off the back of the phone, and there a tiny bit of moisture around the flash, but the battery and everything around it was dry.. The indicators inside the battery holders are still red x's with a white background, and they are dry. The phone still worked like normal, and didn't short over night. 14 hours later, it was still working normally, but for preventative measures I went ahead, and took out the battery and turn off the phone.
At this point, am I out of the woods or is there anything else I need to do?
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Sounds like you dodged a bullet :fingers-crossed:
To make you feel better, check this link: http://bgr.com/2014/07/09/lg-g3-waterproof-test/
If you're still paranoid you can try the rice trick mentioned in the article too, but you're probably dry by now. Good luck!
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Hi -
I regretfully managed to drop my X10 in a toilet last night.... It's been a good 9 hours since at least and although initiallly it turned on when I started to charge it now it wont.
Now the red light if flashing when it is connected to the charger, and the screen is evidently a bit moist around the edges... EDIT: the phone just turned on so part of the issue was the battery being dead, but the screen slowly got darker and darker before switching off...
Is there any test for the phone company to see if it's water damaged?
Also, if I were to call them up and say there was an issue, I know they'd replace it with a straight exchange, so they wouldn't check it first.... Is it safe to do that?
Thanks
FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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FIRST THINGS FIRST :
TURN OFF THE PHONE. NOW. Don't hang around, pull the battery out and DO NOT PUT IT IN.
Circuits are fine when in water, it's the corrosion and also when they have an electrical current put through them that the problem arises (when wet).
This WILL be tested when sent back if you call up and claim fault. The quickest way to visually test water damage is simple. Take off the back of your Xperia and at the top, exactly center (right above the camera) you'll see either a red and white chequered square OR a full red square (possibly part red/white but blotchy).
This SHOULD be chequered red and white but with water damage it makes it all red. Simple. No chance you can claim non damage now.
SECOND.
Put the phone in a bowl of rice(uncooked white rice). Now put the bowl of rice in a warm room or cupboard (preferably where your boiler is for your house?) or on top of a heater.
Leave it overnight and if it's on a heater DO NOT TURN THE HEATER OFF. Don't put the battery in the bowl, keep the battery separate and cooler but also make sure to avoid any water areas with it.
You could be lucky (I'll assume you will be but only time will tell) and this could fix it. It's worked on all my previous phones that I've water damaged (funnily enough I've only ever water damaged SEs) and also a few other circuit board based things I've used (one of them being a laptop!).
Please turn your phone off the SECOND you have read this post. Quickest way, battery pull.
Follow all the above steps and you should have a working xperia again.
Last note : if you dont have a heater to place a bowl of rice & xperia on top of, sit your phone in an empty room, turn a hair drier on and lay it next to it on medium heat setting on the lowest speed blowing against the phone. Should work too but make sure u can shut the door (annoying noise..)
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thank you so much for your advice. I'll give it a go. I don't have any white rice, just brown, will that make a difference?
Of course I'll go and buy white rice if I need it!
The square at the phone is blotchy.... but mostly red. you can still see slight shades of white though.. is this possible without water damage?
Also from what you've said, I really shouldn't have put the phone to charge. I think I left it charging for ast least 6 hours so now I feel like I've ruined it by doing that..
Thanks again )
Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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Just another update. after almost 5 hours in the rice I inserted the battery and connected it to the charger. There was an improvement from before in that the phone turned on and stayed on, ALTHOUGH th screen was flickering, and it really wasn't responding very well - I couldn't actually unlock the device.
There's a visible different in the water movement though, in that there seemed to be some spread around the whole screen initially, and now it's in a small part of the bottom of the screen.
Any tips?
Also, could someone clarify whether Vodafone would class it as water damaged?
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well you dropped it in water and now its damaged, that seems like text book water damage to me =/
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Waiting 7 hours is not long enough...
Rice can only absorb moisture at a certain rate.
You should have wait much longer..
No offense, but your phone is toast. Rule number one is to NEVER turn on a water damaged device for at least a day after the incident. The phone was probably fine until you plugged it in.
You'll have to be on the hook for a new one. Your phone was water damaged and will not be covered under warranty.
Also, your grammar needs improvement. I found it really difficult to follow what you were writing because it made little sense.
Stop playing with it and leave it in the rice another day.
Then pray
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They'll be able to tell
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1. Diasassemble the Phone and put the PCB for 24hrs in 99% Isopropyle Alcohol. Not 50%, not 70% --> 99%.
2. Then take it out and let it dry for 48hrs.
3. Now reflash it (the SW is/may be corrupted).
I reanimated 80% of 200 Water-, Beer-, Pool-, Toilet-, and so on damaged Phones I repaired in the past...
Hey tuffy, sorry for the absence was at work till 10 last night then went straight to sleep lol.
I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
Anyways, brown is fine - rice is rice it still takes in water. Only issue is it takes boiled water in at a rate almost 150 times faster than luke-warm or cold (which is what the water inside your phone will be).
If at all possible, do what McKebbap said but maybe avoid putting the PCB in alcohol, stick to the rice as it's bone dry and although, theoretically, so is the alcohol it'll be easier than trying to clean it all off afterwards.
If you can't dismantle it down (basically we need as much air-space between the PCB and well.. the air/rice!) then just put it back in fresh rice and leave it with the back off and battery out for another 24 hours or so, again in a warm area (needs to be warm for the water to rise).
Please, DO NOT TRY TO TURN IT ON WITHIN THIS TIME. Personally i'd actually be quite inclined to leave it for about 3 days but changing the rice (or mixing it) each day.
Good luck mate.
Oh and to answer your question : it's not possible for it to become blotchy or anything other than just squares of red/white without water buddy. it's designed for phone companies to , at a quick glance, check water damage cause guess what, besides dropping the phone, is the most common return reason ;-)
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I was going to give you similar advice to McKebapp however I thought the easiest option would be to give you common-to-find objects and make it easier as actually locating 99% Isopropyle is next to impossible unless you know exactly what it is!
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Each Pharmacy should have it for sale.
They maybe ask for what you'll use it.
Simply tell them the truth (cleaning electronics) or say, you'll need it to clean guitar strings from colophony.
Then everything should be fine.
So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
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So what happened? How's the phone?
How about the beer test in the good ol' days of the R310s
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Even if it is Off Topic...
YMMD
I've still got one orange R310s I still regualry make use of.
You simply can't destroy it.
I once even went snorkeling with it.
*remembering-the-good-'ol,-Sony-free,-pure-Ericsson-times*
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Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
Back on topic, I hope Tuffy11 managed to salvage the X10.
U can get isopropyl from any pharmacy. You should follow mckebapps guide. Check his posts out, he knows whats up. ;-)
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Indeed, the awesome days of Ericsson phones! My R380s still works!
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Mine r520m works fine except bluetooth. In 2006 Ericsson didn't support this model anymore, so I switched to k790a that works fine for now. Even now with 3.2 Mp camera it does better job in dark sets, than X10. When I read specs I was surprised that they didn't use xenon flash. It is a kind of a bad joke for flagship model.
Returning to water damage - it is enough just to leave a phone for a week in regular room environment. Of course, I mean average environment, not like in rain season somewhere in rainforest. Alcohol (any kind - regular ethanol or isopropyl) absorbs water, but dries faster, than water, so this bath just significantly reduces water concentration. By the way, don't try to find 99% of consumer ethanol - it doesn't exist. 96% is the best (190 proof in the US or 175 degrees proof in UK). For isopropyl regular distillation gives 87.9% max. Azeotropic distillation produces higher percentage for both these spirits, but I doubt you can find it in regular stores. Closed areas, where water was suck in remain problematic. Moreover, when water finally dries out, it leaves mineral salts. It is not a big deal at circuit plates since those salts are electric safe (except sea water salts), but in clear areas like between screen layers they will be visible.
And again - if you want to kill any electronics most effective way, turn it on when it is wet. If you want to save it - be patient.
Hopefully this will help some poor schmucks that manage to do the #3 in the toilet (common enough so I call it #3).
If there is ****, just let go man, really.
If there is piss, likely more damage has been done so chances of recovery are slimmer (salty water is more conductive).
If clean water then likely the phone will work but some hardware might not survive (like the camera, ....)
In any case, remove the battery IMMEDIATELY!
Wipe battery dry. Leave alone and forget about it for 3-4 days.
Shake out as much water as possible out of the phone and let it dry for a week. You can safely use a hair dryer to warm it up to speed the evaporation. Do it twice a day.
If you want, dunk the phone in 99% rubbing alcohol for 10-20 seconds, swish it around. Take it out and forget you had a phone for 3-4 of days.
I never dropped one into the loo but I did go swimming with two phones and both survived (mostly).
Ok so I accidently bumped my fence which had my phone on it which had a pot of water next to it. Then my phone dropped in it and i pulled it out as quickly as possible and took out the battery. FYI: My phone was still working underwater. HUGE MISTAKE. I popped in my battery to see which things worked and etc and also when i booted my phone back up the battery dropped 20%. Then i took out the battery, sim card, and sd card and let it dry in the sun. My camera is all foggy and stuff now. Can anyone help me fix my camera, speaker and battery?
*EDIT* Also my speaker was jacked up too i think because the speaker wasnt sounding very clear.
*EDIT* #2 The good news is that my battery strip thingy didnt turn red/pink. Its still white.
No problem, because you got the insurance from T-Mobile - Right?
If you do then it is covered. Water damage is specifically mentioned as covered.
If not . . . hmm, since the dot is still white you might still have a chance. Usually there is more than one though. The one near the battery is for a quick spot check, often there is also one inside for confirmation. Provided everything is ok, and it is still under warranty, maybe removing all signs of water (water marks, fog, ect.) and then attempting warranty fulfillment MIGHT work.
But my phone is rooted lol... so should i restore it before i do?
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But my phone is rooted lol... so should i restore it before i do?
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If you want, but from the several times here that I have seen where ppl send in their rooted Vibrants for warranty repair (usually GPS), it does not seem as if T-Mobile/Samsung really give a d4mn.
One word for you ...rice. put your phone in a bag of rice for 24 hours and don't touch it. After that take it out and clean it all up, put your battery back in and it should work perfect.
I actually washed my wife's phone and this worked. Hope this helps
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Yea right now my phone and battery is in a bowl of rice. Its been in there for about 5 hours. Hope it works
is rice like a dampness soaker?
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is rice like a dampness soaker?
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It absorbs humidity.
By the way, in the future don't put the battery back in until you've let everything dry as long as possible. Any water could short circuit the phone if you put the battery back in.
I would think also about very detailed disassembling and let dry very very well for long time before trying powering the phone.
alcohol is good for wiping off some certain parts but it can break the screen seal
Hope That Helps
Depending on your own morals, you could probably still get a warranty replacement after the water inside dries out. T-Mobile won't open the device up to check for internal water damage most likely, so if your sticker is white then you should be fine.
And FYI, bleach on a Q-Tip will turn all red water damage stickers white again.
I put my vibrant/battery in rice for 24 hours exactly and now everything works perfectly!
Speaker, battery life, camera, everything is ok
So happy.
Thanks forums!
awesome DUDE i have dropped my vibrant at least three times in water and what can i say THIS THING IS a beast my microphone doesnt work anymore but ehhh small price to pay actually does anyone know where i can find a replacement mic ive looked everywhere
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Depending on your own morals, you could probably still get a warranty replacement after the water inside dries out. T-Mobile won't open the device up to check for internal water damage most likely, so if your sticker is white then you should be fine.
And FYI, bleach on a Q-Tip will turn all red water damage stickers white again.
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Don't waste your time with bleach and q-tip, just ask for the replacement and when it comes, take off the new sticker with a hair dryer, 10 seconds or so, and tweezers. Then replace the water damaged one with the new one. Just like operation.
well my phone got wet on the back with a case, then i took off the case it and the back which was all wet, the battery was wet to and so was under it, i took out the battery and dried every thing and it worked, everything did, the speakers and buttons. so later today the phone just shut off and wouldnt turn on. so i thought it died and i tried charging and just the light would flicker on the top left of the phone. so i put it in rice for about 5 hours and i put battery back on and now when i press the the power button. the screen just turns on like u can see light, just a black screen. then it goes away.
the battery has some green stuff on one of the gold things that conencts your batteries.
So i oredered another battery off of ebay, do you think that would fix it?
Thank you so much for reading this, just post your opinion on what happend.
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well my phone got wet on the back with a case, then i took off the case it and the back which was all wet, the battery was wet to and so was under it, i took out the battery and dried every thing and it worked, everything did, the speakers and buttons. so later today the phone just shut off and wouldnt turn on. so i thought it died and i tried charging and just the light would flicker on the top left of the phone. so i put it in rice for about 5 hours and i put battery back on and now when i press the the power button. the screen just turns on like u can see light, just a black screen. then it goes away.
the battery has some green stuff on one of the gold things that conencts your batteries.
So i oredered another battery off of ebay, do you think that would fix it?
Thank you so much for reading this, just post your opinion on what happend.
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Hope it works dude, water damage is pretty random depending on how wet it got. For the future, it would have been better to have taken out the battery and put it in rice immediately...
yap
a friend of mine forgot his phone in the pocket and it got washed by a washing mashiene
he brought it to a phone store and they put the phone into a blue liquide and after that iot worked properly
the green things on the contact came because u put it under voltage due it was wet the water got split into its parts (electrolysis)
i had the same problem with an mp3 player years ago lights went on but nothing else i think u broke ure phone but just leave it for a week or so and try again with the new battery
i hope for it will work
So actually, most phones phone should operate fine on net power and without a battery. Have you tried this? If it behaves the same as you described, I would not spend a dime on it ;-)
Bad luck btw ;-/
Hey guys i know this might not be very useful but hahahahah yesterday night me and some friends of mine were drinking outside near the main river in frankfurt hahahah and drunken girl got 8€ for jumping into the river xD
she did it ( i couldnt believe this xDDDDD i´d never done this )
Afterwards she recognized her galaxy ace in her pocket....
well it got wet
later on in her flat she repowered the phone and everthing worked fine expect the micro usb slot on her device xD
Well jfi xD
Try removing the battery and battery cover and completely submerging in 99% isopropyl alcohol (You can get it at most grocery stores, pharmacies, etc.) for a few hours. At this point the phone should work as normal again, but to be on the safe side take a box of rice and submerge your phone in the rice. Leave it their for a day or two and you should be good to go. Hope this helps.
i might try it myself as my phone has water damage on it as well
9 times out of 10 in my line of work, usually when the screen backlight turns on but doesnt display anything means its done for. I have seen customers with phones that got soaked and they lasted a couple of days but then stopped working... My best guess is that the water was still inside the phone and shorted out one of the small circuits inside. Good luck though i hope you can get it working.
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9 times out of 10 in my line of work, usually when the screen backlight turns on but doesnt display anything means its done for. I have seen customers with phones that got soaked and they lasted a couple of days but then stopped working... My best guess is that the water was still inside the phone and shorted out one of the small circuits inside. Good luck though i hope you can get it working.
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Well if ur right he could throw his phone away cus if u the circuits where shorted the possibility his phone got damaged in a unrepairable way is very high
Ok so I was an idiot today and dropped my i777 in water. It fell into the three pieces (back, battery, screen), and i quickly dried it off and it turned on. i then left it in my pocket, and when i took it out, the battery was sizzling. Apparently, it humidified enough and left water marks on the phone. Nothing big, and the water indicators (?) on the phone haven't changed color, so there wasn't significant damage. However, i tried turning it on then, and it wont go past the boot logo (Galaxy SII) without looping and the battery still sizzles. I'm running bone stock, if that helps. Right now it's in rice just in case, but is there anything i can do other than wait?
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Ok so I was an idiot today and dropped my i777 in water. It fell into the three pieces (back, battery, screen), and i quickly dried it off and it turned on. i then left it in my pocket, and when i took it out, the battery was sizzling. Apparently, it humidified enough and left water marks on the phone. Nothing big, and the water indicators (?) on the phone haven't changed color, so there wasn't significant damage. However, i tried turning it on then, and it wont go past the boot logo (Galaxy SII) without looping and the battery still sizzles. I'm running bone stock, if that helps. Right now it's in rice just in case, but is there anything i can do other than wait?
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Dropped in water? It's probably stuck on bootloop because of a battery issue or the internal SD got a little farked with the water and it corrupted it. Nothing you can do about it. If it works dried out then consider it a miracle.
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...i quickly dried it off and it turned on...
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dropping the phone in water doesn't make you an idiot. Life happens fast. Drying it off is the best effort, but you should always wait as long as possible to turn the device back on. The real killer is the water that gets into the crevices and creates short circuits where they don't belong -time gives those hidden bits of moisture a chance to dry out on their own. The bag of rice trick might have worked if it was the first thing that you did after drying it off. This may not be super helpful for this device, but hopefully it will help you in the future.
-Cyril
Jackson8r said:
Ok so I was an idiot today and dropped my i777 in water. It fell into the three pieces (back, battery, screen), and i quickly dried it off and it turned on. i then left it in my pocket, and when i took it out, the battery was sizzling. Apparently, it humidified enough and left water marks on the phone. Nothing big, and the water indicators (?) on the phone haven't changed color, so there wasn't significant damage. However, i tried turning it on then, and it wont go past the boot logo (Galaxy SII) without looping and the battery still sizzles. I'm running bone stock, if that helps. Right now it's in rice just in case, but is there anything i can do other than wait?
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Maybe this will help?
"Bheestie Bags
Silica gel packets are an alternative to rice. And a company called Bheestie actually sells a special bag that is meant just for saving your wet gadgets. The bag costs $18.14 (or $20.00 at some places) and has special packets inside. They aren't your typical silica gel packets either -- the little packets have a special molecular sieve desiccant formula, according to the company. Open the bag, drop your phone in for 24 hours, and the phone might just come out working again. The bag did work with an old BlackBerry, but we didn't have an extra iPhone for a test. According to the company, the bag soaks up water 700 percent better than rice. It is available through Amazon.com and other e-tailers."
My Samsung S5 got dropped on the floor with minor water, It worked for approximately 8/9 hours after then gave me a blank screen. The phone powers up as normal but i cant see anything on the screen. However, in the mid second of taking out the battery from the phone i can see display on the screen.
Would appreciate some assistance!
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My Samsung S5 got dropped on the floor with minor water, It worked for approximately 8/9 hours after then gave me a blank screen. The phone powers up as normal but i cant see anything on the screen. However, in the mid second of taking out the battery from the phone i can see display on the screen.
Would appreciate some assistance!
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Option 1:
If you have a removable battery pull it, and bury your phone in a bowl of dried rice overnight. Check it again the morning. If you can't pull your battery, just bury it. I'd do this at least 2x.
Option 2:
DON'T DO THIS UNLESS YOU CAN PULL THE BATTERY FROM YOUR PHONE!!! LITHIUM LOVES TO EXPLODE!!! ←I'm not responsible for any damages or injuries if you try this. This is entirely at your own risk, so if you don't feel comfortable with it, stick to rice.
If your oven can go to 120°F (49°C) or less, you can dry it out in just a few 20min spurts. 2-4 runs, 20min a pop. Let the phone cool off and check it before starting another run. It won't damage the electronics at all if you stay under 140°F. I recommend 120°F because not all ovens are accurate.
After trying these drying methods if your phone still won't work properly, then you probably shorted something out by using it after dropping it in water.