My PERSONAL review of the iPega 9023 controller. - Shield Tablet Accessories

Hey guys, so, I know there's a lot of you out there who are thinking of getting a controller for your shield tablet, thinking you should get a console controller w/ bluetooth or something of that nature, but I honestly think this is the best controller out there, despite some of its flaws. This isn't really a professional review, just some pictures and captions xP But I think it'll give people an idea of what to expect. The pictures were relatively big, 4000x3000, so I had to resize them all to 1024x768 on postimg. You can click the thumbnails to get a better view.
So as far as the box goes, there's nothing really much to say, it's mostly in chinese.
There's not much inside the box. Just the controller, a charge cable that's about 3 meters long, and an instruction manual.
The sheer size of this thing after first holding it literally had me laughing for about 10 minutes, just actually taking in that I'm holding this gaming device that is now about 13.5" long was just funny xD
After playing with this thing for an hour or two, going back to the Vita, the Vita felt extremely tiny in comparison.
This thing has three modes to pair, each is selected by turning the controller on while holding either X, Y, or A and pressing the home button at the same time. There is Keyboard, Gamepad(What you'd use), and mouse mode. Gamepad is X+Home.
Showing off Black Ops 2 played through Gamestream here:
The controller works very well with gamestream, practically no input lag AT ALL, but there is some video lag though that's NVIDIA's fault and will hopefully be lowered in the later months/years.
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Now, onto some actual reviewy type stuff, the pros and cons. The build quality for this controller is absolutely FANTASTIC for $30, It feels much better than my Moga Pro in every aspect except portability, but for a tablet I'm sure you aren't expecting that anyway. The sticks feel amazing to the touch and have just the right amount of resistance, both the face buttons and the top buttons feel nice, just everything feels great and it's hard to believe this thing only costs $30, but there are some cons.
Not exactly a con: Ports
The ports are hidden as you have the controller fit as snug as possible, but it is completely possible to raise the tablet up higher while it's in the controller and have every port shown while still having a tight fit. It'll look something along the lines of this.
I kid you not I was flinging this controller up and down and left and right and even with the tablet in that high, it didn't budge at all, this controller holds your device in very well.
Pro: Works with Gamemapper
For some reason it's 2015 and we still have FPS games that don't have native gamepad support(NOVA 3). Luckily, just hold the start button and you can bring up NVIDIA's gamemapper.
(60/40) Con: D-PAD
Don't get me wrong, this is a really great D-PAD...For everything other than fighters. It feels nice, it works almost perfectly, the problem is, diagonal inputs don't read as naturally as they should. You have to kind of put more effort into getting the D-PAD in the diagonal portion of the gate to correctly get a hadouken or whatever you want out. It's kind of frustrating. A side note, for some reason, the Home button doesn't work at all. Not sure if I have a broken controller or if it just doesn't work correctly with Lollipop.
Con: L2/R2 (LT/RT for you X360 users)
Even though they feel nice to press, I can't get over the fact that these are just buttons, and not actual triggers. I don't even want to try a racing game with Gamestream because of how much it'd fail. They work fine with everything else though.
All in all, this is a very nice controller, and even with those cons, I'd recommend it to ANYONE looking for a controller for ANY tablet. Definitely the best bang for your buck.
MY SCORE: 9/10
You can purchase the controller really cheap at:
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Solid review. I had the same controller a while back for my Nexus 7 and it worked well . I sent it back along with my refurbed 7 to Amazon a few week's back while deciding on which tablet to purchase next. After picking up the Shield Tablet the other day, I decided re-purchase this one instead of going with the Shield controller. The iPega's ability to hold the tablet right where your hands should be helps deliver a more immersive experience which can't be said for just about anything else out there.

Wobblin30 said:
Solid review. I had the same controller a while back for my Nexus 7 and it worked well . I sent it back along with my refurbed 7 to Amazon a few week's back while deciding on which tablet to purchase next. After picking up the Shield Tablet the other day, I decided re-purchase this one instead of going with the Shield controller. The iPega's ability to hold the tablet right where your hands should be helps deliver a more immersive experience which can't be said for just about anything else out there.
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Yeah, definitely. I used to use a PS3 Controller for the Shield Tablet and was considering buying this prototype looking thing, http://www.shapeways.com/product/BJXE3ZRK3/ps3-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet
Then I considered just how top heavy that would be and decided to look elsewhere. This is definitely the best tablet controller hands down.

I agree this is a very good product for the price and handles very well when gaming. Though be weary, if you choose to have your Nvidia Shield in a full body case which increases the thickness of the tablet, then its not going to fit securely. I got the iPega 9023 first, then got the the Poetic Revolution case. And the frustrating thing is, I want both, but currently the tablet when in the case doesn't sit securely in the controller, the controller loses its grip, and springs back into its default size, pushing out the tablet.

well sir.
The iPega 9023 is known to use ****ty joysticks with incredibly bad deadzones. Firmware compensation for those deadzones prevent simple replacement of the sticks with better equipment. Im surprised you rated it so high. Even given the extremely low asking price, 25$ is better spent elsewhere. For those considering this piece of junk, its hard to see in a video, but you should at least do some homework before blowing your money on this thing. There have only been 2 known revisions, the 2nd edition being nothing but a palette swap. I had high hopes for a gamepad tablet holder. Even after doing the research i purchased with the intention of just replacing the sticks. Having done that, its very clear the problem is both firmware and hardware, and there's no easy fix.

Sess said:
The iPega 9023 is known to use ****ty joysticks with incredibly bad deadzones. Firmware compensation for those deadzones prevent simple replacement of the sticks with better equipment. Im surprised you rated it so high. Even given the extremely low asking price, 25$ is better spent elsewhere. For those considering this piece of junk, its hard to see in a video, but you should at least do some homework before blowing your money on this thing. There have only been 2 known revisions, the 2nd edition being nothing but a palette swap. I had high hopes for a gamepad tablet holder. Even after doing the research i purchased with the intention of just replacing the sticks. Having done that, its very clear the problem is both firmware and hardware, and there's no easy fix.
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If you root your tablet, you can set custom deadzones for any gamepad in the android system. You just need to edit the appropriate .kl file, I've done it many times for Xbox 360 controllers and the Moga Pro gamepad.

ok
How you do it
Explain please
I like so far the ipega but I want more.
I think nobody care

Can anyone measure what is maximum stretch of this controller?
I own 10.6'' "cube i7 stylus" tablet, with length of 273.77mm (10.77'') and I am not sure if it is going to fit.
It is advertised as 10'' maximum but maybe it can be stretched more?
Thanks!

rejectedjs said:
Yeah, definitely. I used to use a PS3 Controller for the Shield Tablet and was considering buying this prototype looking thing, http://www.shapeways.com/product/BJXE3ZRK3/ps3-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet
Then I considered just how top heavy that would be and decided to look elsewhere. This is definitely the best tablet controller hands down.
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You can get an Over the top version that has a nice weight distro

I have one of these and am happy with it
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bluegizmo83 said:
If you root your tablet, you can set custom deadzones for any gamepad in the android system. You just need to edit the appropriate .kl file, I've done it many times for Xbox 360 controllers and the Moga Pro gamepad.
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What values are you indicated for stick in .kl file

rejectedjs said:
Hey guys, so, I know there's a lot of you out there who are thinking of getting a controller for your shield tablet, thinking you should get a console controller w/ bluetooth or something of that nature, but I honestly think this is the best controller out there, despite some of its flaws. This isn't really a professional review, just some pictures and captions xP But I think it'll give people an idea of what to expect. The pictures were relatively big, 4000x3000, so I had to resize them all to 1024x768 on postimg. You can click the thumbnails to get a better view.
So as far as the box goes, there's nothing really much to say, it's mostly in chinese.
There's not much inside the box. Just the controller, a charge cable that's about 3 meters long, and an instruction manual.
The sheer size of this thing after first holding it literally had me laughing for about 10 minutes, just actually taking in that I'm holding this gaming device that is now about 13.5" long was just funny xD
After playing with this thing for an hour or two, going back to the Vita, the Vita felt extremely tiny in comparison.
This thing has three modes to pair, each is selected by turning the controller on while holding either X, Y, or A and pressing the home button at the same time. There is Keyboard, Gamepad(What you'd use), and mouse mode. Gamepad is X+Home.
Showing off Black Ops 2 played through Gamestream here:
The controller works very well with gamestream, practically no input lag AT ALL, but there is some video lag though that's NVIDIA's fault and will hopefully be lowered in the later months/years.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTUAL REVIEW NOW
Now, onto some actual reviewy type stuff, the pros and cons. The build quality for this controller is absolutely FANTASTIC for $30, It feels much better than my Moga Pro in every aspect except portability, but for a tablet I'm sure you aren't expecting that anyway. The sticks feel amazing to the touch and have just the right amount of resistance, both the face buttons and the top buttons feel nice, just everything feels great and it's hard to believe this thing only costs $30, but there are some cons.
Not exactly a con: Ports
The ports are hidden as you have the controller fit as snug as possible, but it is completely possible to raise the tablet up higher while it's in the controller and have every port shown while still having a tight fit. It'll look something along the lines of this.
I kid you not I was flinging this controller up and down and left and right and even with the tablet in that high, it didn't budge at all, this controller holds your device in very well.
Pro: Works with Gamemapper
For some reason it's 2015 and we still have FPS games that don't have native gamepad support(NOVA 3). Luckily, just hold the start button and you can bring up NVIDIA's gamemapper.
(60/40) Con: D-PAD
Don't get me wrong, this is a really great D-PAD...For everything other than fighters. It feels nice, it works almost perfectly, the problem is, diagonal inputs don't read as naturally as they should. You have to kind of put more effort into getting the D-PAD in the diagonal portion of the gate to correctly get a hadouken or whatever you want out. It's kind of frustrating. A side note, for some reason, the Home button doesn't work at all. Not sure if I have a broken controller or if it just doesn't work correctly with Lollipop.
Con: L2/R2 (LT/RT for you X360 users)
Even though they feel nice to press, I can't get over the fact that these are just buttons, and not actual triggers. I don't even want to try a racing game with Gamestream because of how much it'd fail. They work fine with everything else though.
All in all, this is a very nice controller, and even with those cons, I'd recommend it to ANYONE looking for a controller for ANY tablet. Definitely the best bang for your buck.
MY SCORE: 9/10
You can purchase the controller really cheap at:
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How to use this "gamepad mapper"? Where can i find it.

chrisssj2 said:
How to use this "gamepad mapper"? Where can i find it.
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He means the Nvidia gamemapper, an app on the stock rom of the Nvidia Shield devices.
http://support-shield.nvidia.com/tablet-user-guide/index.htm#t=Gamepad_Mapper.htm

rejectedjs said:
Hey guys, so, I know there's a lot of you out there who are thinking of getting a controller for your shield tablet, thinking you should get a console controller w/ bluetooth or something of that nature, but I honestly think this is the best controller out there, despite some of its flaws. This isn't really a professional review, just some pictures and captions xP But I think it'll give people an idea of what to expect. The pictures were relatively big, 4000x3000, so I had to resize them all to 1024x768 on postimg. You can click the thumbnails to get a better view.
So as far as the box goes, there's nothing really much to say, it's mostly in chinese.
There's not much inside the box. Just the controller, a charge cable that's about 3 meters long, and an instruction manual.
The sheer size of this thing after first holding it literally had me laughing for about 10 minutes, just actually taking in that I'm holding this gaming device that is now about 13.5" long was just funny xD
After playing with this thing for an hour or two, going back to the Vita, the Vita felt extremely tiny in comparison.
This thing has three modes to pair, each is selected by turning the controller on while holding either X, Y, or A and pressing the home button at the same time. There is Keyboard, Gamepad(What you'd use), and mouse mode. Gamepad is X+Home.
Showing off Black Ops 2 played through Gamestream here:
The controller works very well with gamestream, practically no input lag AT ALL, but there is some video lag though that's NVIDIA's fault and will hopefully be lowered in the later months/years.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ACTUAL REVIEW NOW
Now, onto some actual reviewy type stuff, the pros and cons. The build quality for this controller is absolutely FANTASTIC for $30, It feels much better than my Moga Pro in every aspect except portability, but for a tablet I'm sure you aren't expecting that anyway. The sticks feel amazing to the touch and have just the right amount of resistance, both the face buttons and the top buttons feel nice, just everything feels great and it's hard to believe this thing only costs $30, but there are some cons.
Not exactly a con: Ports
The ports are hidden as you have the controller fit as snug as possible, but it is completely possible to raise the tablet up higher while it's in the controller and have every port shown while still having a tight fit. It'll look something along the lines of this.
I kid you not I was flinging this controller up and down and left and right and even with the tablet in that high, it didn't budge at all, this controller holds your device in very well.
Pro: Works with Gamemapper
For some reason it's 2015 and we still have FPS games that don't have native gamepad support(NOVA 3). Luckily, just hold the start button and you can bring up NVIDIA's gamemapper.
(60/40) Con: D-PAD
Don't get me wrong, this is a really great D-PAD...For everything other than fighters. It feels nice, it works almost perfectly, the problem is, diagonal inputs don't read as naturally as they should. You have to kind of put more effort into getting the D-PAD in the diagonal portion of the gate to correctly get a hadouken or whatever you want out. It's kind of frustrating. A side note, for some reason, the Home button doesn't work at all. Not sure if I have a broken controller or if it just doesn't work correctly with Lollipop.
Con: L2/R2 (LT/RT for you X360 users)
Even though they feel nice to press, I can't get over the fact that these are just buttons, and not actual triggers. I don't even want to try a racing game with Gamestream because of how much it'd fail. They work fine with everything else though.
All in all, this is a very nice controller, and even with those cons, I'd recommend it to ANYONE looking for a controller for ANY tablet. Definitely the best bang for your buck.
MY SCORE: 9/10
You can purchase the controller really cheap at:
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daeymon said:
He means the Nvidia gamemapper, an app on the stock rom of the Nvidia Shield devices.
http://support-shield.nvidia.com/tablet-user-guide/index.htm#t=Gamepad_Mapper.htm
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Is this mapper only avaible if u also have the shield controller? or can u use it without? as im using the ipega...

chrisssj2 said:
Is this mapper only avaible if u also have the shield controller? or can u use it without? as im using the ipega...
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Gamemapper does work with most controllers I believe. I believe you have to hold start to get it to come up. I don't use stock anymore, and use Tincore all the way, so its been a while since I ever looked at it with curiosity.

daeymon said:
Gamemapper does work with most controllers I believe. I believe you have to hold start to get it to come up. I don't use stock anymore, and use Tincore all the way, so its been a while since I ever looked at it with curiosity.
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Thanks. I found it.
Could you please tell me how to use tincore. I cannot make sense of it. or a way how to config the ipega with it.
I would be very grateful

chrisssj2 said:
Could you please tell me how to use tincore. I cannot make sense of it. or a way how to config the ipega with it.
I would be very grateful
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It autodetects the iPega. There is nothing special about using it with Tincore and to tell you how to use it would be just posting what already exists in the Tincore guides. My advice is, Tincore does ALOT which you probably won't need. Focus on just the aspects you need and ignore the rest.
Here is where I've referred each time I've got stuck using it:
http://tincore.freewiki.in/index.php/Tincore_Keymapper

Hi, when battery dies, can I use it wired? I mean using an OTG USB cable on a Windows tablet (Lenovo Miix 2)

Hi. Does the clamping work with vertical orientation? I wish to buy this controller but I prefer vertical orientation since I played a lot of DS emulator and it's better in vertical orientation (not to mention the hassle of having to rotate the phone back when trying to reply instant message)

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Good but not too expensive Gamepad controller?

Hi guys.
as christmas is approaching i need to give my wife an idea what to get me so i thought about a new gamepad controller for my new note 3.
i have read generally positive reviews regarding MOGA and can see they have just released their power versions but they are expensive.
i thought about using a ps3 controller but i havent yet rooted the note 3 and dont plan to for a few months at least.
any suggestions are welcome.
I have the Moga Pro, and I like it pretty well. It works pretty well out of the box, and works as a HID controller too. I got mine at BestBuy for $40 when they had them on sale/clearance.
Pros:
- Solid quality: Doesn't feel as good as an OEM Xbox controller, but easily as good as any third party console controller.
- Rechargeable: Doesn't need disposable batteries.
- The phone holder fits even my Note 3 in a case!
- Probably has the best compatibility of any controller.
- Pairing is easy.
- Decent (but not great) Dpad.
- Analog sticks are solid, though slightly higher resistance would be better.
Cons:
- Big and bulky: Can't really carry it in my purse -_-
- Doesn't fit a very thick case (my case has a SlingGrip on it, and that makes it too thick)
- Probably not folio case friendly.
Skip the moga and get the moga pro at minimum. The moga hero power is awesome too but probably well out of your wanted budget.
sent from my sm-9005.
I have a PS3, so I always use PS3 controllers with my Android devices. I just had to spend $20 on a GameKlip, $5 on a generic ebay case to tape to the GameKlip, then I was set! Makes it similar to playing the Nvidia Shield, except I have a .7" bigger display, 1080p instead of 720p, using a controller that I'm comfortable with and like the layout of, PLUS I can make phone calls and send texts with my setup!
If you like the button layout and already have a PS3 controller, then just get a GameKlip and cheap case. Since you're a member on XDA, I'm assuming you plan to root anyway. It really is a great setup! My Note 3 is the 3rd phone that I've used with this same GameKlip too, so it's very durable.
SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 3 via XDA Premium
PS3 a good option if you are a Root user, for sure. I've used it a lot over the last couple of years.
These days I'm just tending to use the Moga Pro (just ordered the new Power one), excellent if Root is not an option/not always an option.
cheers guys.
at some point i will root but not yet.
i saw they had released the moga power series. apart from size and design, are there any other differences between the hero power and pro power? such as compatibility differences, better/newer spec bluetooth on one or the other or anything like that. if not i wouldnt see much reason to spend the extra for the pro over the hero.
You should be good with the regular pro I think. The moga hero power is pretty good though but pricey. I don't see any reason to get the power pro unless you have money to blow and/or want the bigger battery. The 1800mah should be plenty in the moga hero. I say get the pro or wait for the hero to go on sale.
sent from my sm-9005.
Main advantage of the new Power one is that it can charge the phone from the controller while you play, which solves one of the major difficulties of on the go gaming on your phone.
Lol. The battery is much bigger in note3 than the 1800/2200mah batteries of the new power controllers. And they only output 460mah, maybe 500 not sure as I haven't checked. Maybe it worth it if you game heavily but then you probably run into dead controller.
sent from my sm-9005.
Grab a PS3 controller from Craigslist and use sixaxis app to config your settings.
K.0.0.L. said:
Grab a PS3 controller from Craigslist and use sixaxis app to config your settings.
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This really is best if you dont already own one, root de la vega takes less than 30 seconds seriously..and it doesnt even trip the knox counter.
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cheers guys and thanks for the help.
as mentioned though, for now at least, i wont be rooting. i'll wait 6 months until three uk's warranty period is over but also there may be root methods that are easier/wont effect flash counter/will work with the bootloader i'm now on that is apparently harder to root on (mj6).
the hero power did peak my interest and as long as it is the same internally to the pro apart from the battery size, i think i'd be happy with that.
any others worth noting at all?
thanks again.
marc.knuckle said:
cheers guys and thanks for the help.
as mentioned though, for now at least, i wont be rooting. i'll wait 6 months until three uk's warranty period is over but also there may be root methods that are easier/wont effect flash counter/will work with the bootloader i'm now on that is apparently harder to root on (mj6).
the hero power did peak my interest and as long as it is the same internally to the pro apart from the battery size, i think i'd be happy with that.
any others worth noting at all?
thanks again.
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i think you should get the regular pro or the hero power. i don't know battery size of the pro, and i don't think it's like regular moga with interchangeable which would've been preferable to me. the pro would be for the more serious gamer that needs better analog stick and something to grab. the hero power is for someone like me who used to be a hardcore gamer but is stuck in between casual and hardcore. do note that the hero power and power pro have two extra shoulder buttons and the analog stick have L3/R3 function which might be useful. and of course it's obvious the power pro has the serious analog sticks. really it comes down to price for you and you should be able to score the moga pro for $30-40 easily now. the hero power just came out and i'm sure it'll be a month or two before you see sub $50.
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i think you should get the regular pro or the hero power. i don't know battery size of the pro, and i don't think it's like regular moga with interchangeable which would've been preferable to me. the pro would be for the more serious gamer that needs better analog stick and something to grab. the hero power is for someone like me who used to be a hardcore gamer but is stuck in between casual and hardcore. do note that the hero power and power pro have two extra shoulder buttons and the analog stick have L3/R3 function which might be useful. and of course it's obvious the power pro has the serious analog sticks. really it comes down to price for you and you should be able to score the moga pro for $30-40 easily now. the hero power just came out and i'm sure it'll be a month or two before you see sub $50.
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btw, enjoying my hero power a lot. works great for rpg's. haven't played a fps yet, but i'm sure it'll "get by". mike tyson's punch is challenging with the buttons being close together but i've started to acclimate to it. things are geting better.
PS3 controller really is the best because its comfortable and loads more versatile.
The downside?
Its bulky. Not really pocketable... but is decent enough to throw in a purse, a bag, or just in your car.
But why stop there?
Get the Datel TurboFire 2. Its rare but worth it. Its basically a DualShock3 controller (works with PS3, Sixaxis App, and PC's... they think its a PS3 controller) but its bigger so its more comfortable. Its got some grippy contours (meh). And its got a Turbo function.
Basically those games/apps that require you to spam a certain button many times... you can cheat through them by just holding a button while the controller imitates a constant really fast button pushing. Since its larger than DS3, its a little more bulky.... but I love mine.
(especially when converting a sniper into an assault rifle on Battlefield or Call of Duty)
He doesnt want to root his phone so ps3 controller is out of the question. The ps3 is a good option but uses MINI not micro USB, is bulky, gotta pay for the sixaxis app, battery life is not as good as moga, doesnt support hid. The upside to it though is the awesome mapping profiles for touch only games. That can't be beat. I haven't looked but hoping to find an app that does similar mapping profiles with moga controllers.
sent from my sm-9005.
i sent an email to Moga to see when the hero power would be available in the uk and they said for now it was only the US.
now i dont know whether to wait or look elsewhere.

IMHO the best controller for Android, esp Z Ultra and tablets

Just bought this fella a few days ago, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MUG3JPU/, and LOVE it. The silver buttons are pretty cheapy, but the buttons used for gaming (joysticks, d pad, shoulder buttons, etc) are VERY high quality. It grips my phone very securely, but its in the metallic Incipio case, havent tried without the case yet. Should still hold fine. Best things IMHO are that with the size of the Z Ultra, it is almost a perfect fit, just a cm away from looking like it was made for this phone, and the fact that the buttons are laid out like a PS3 controller.
It will fit a 10 inch tablet, as well, which is a plus (even though I just sold my Note 10.1 2014, and not just have an Onda 972 I havent used in over a year )
Attached a pretty horrible screenshot. Charging port is still easily accessible. Can even still use it like a phone in the gamepad, not like its THAT much *more* unwieldy haha
That looks so bulky. How is it for longer gaming sessions? IMO, the best controller would still be the official PS3 DS controller. :good:
Well yeah the Dualshock is better as far as controls go haha, but I dont have a stand for my Z Ultra and I dont like the screen being positioned in top of the controller so for me it isnt a consideration. In fact I bought this to replace using my Dualshock. I prefer the screen in the middle of the controller, PSP-style.
It really isnt that bulky when you hold it. my hands are average sized and its a comfy fit. For really long sessions it may get tiring, just because the phone itself weighs so much. Its about the size of a standard PC controller.
i like it alot
I bought this controller and I love it it can feet several tablet and it works great on emulators and some regular games

[UPDATE 07-01-15] Sony Game Control Mount GCM10 Question - PS3 Controller compatible?

Okay so I acted a little derp and posted a new highly similar thread in the wrong section even, so I'll make this the main thread since the other one was closed (I'd still like to have people comment on this thread of course, with questions for me to answer)
Anyway,
A while ago I asked a question here on XDA regarding the GCM10 Game Control Mount and its compatibility with a PS3 controller. I didn't get that many detailed answers and I figured more people would be interested to know whether the GCM10 works with the PS3 controller. I used my Xperia Z1 instead of a Z3 as advertised but this obviously shouldn't make a difference. Since I won this from the Xperiablog community, I figured I should do the community a favour in return by doing this.
As you can see here, the GCM10 doesn't quite fit the PS3 controller - it almost closes, but you'll have to use a rubber band or come up with another creative idea to close it properly. Before I received this, I used to hold the Xperia phone and controller in place with only one bent wire which was very fragile. I used it in the bus once or twice, but really wouldn't have recommended this. Now this GCM10 already seems much better since it steadily holds the phone in place with the suction cup, which was the main issue with my previous wire solution.
The downside is that the GCM10's metal wire in the middle (which is actually covered in rubber - a very nice detail indeed) is slightly in the way of the square button, and you cannot completely rotate the analog sticks to the sides where the wires are. With rubber bands the controller is pretty much usable and pretty stable as well, but the wires make this experience all but perfect. If you're not careful, one wire might even press and hold the square button on the controller, which is not something you'll want. Also for games that do absolutely need the analog joysticks to move all the way around as should be able, you may not find this to be working well. Although GTA: SA for Android does allow for both walking and running movement, which no notable difference in whether you push the stick down until it hits the wire and until it reaches the side where it's supposed to end. I do not recommend buying the GCM10 if you only have a PS3 controller in conclusion, unless you have money to spare. There must be better options out there for a PS3 controller. I could consider upgrading to a PS4 controller but this is kind of a waste of money as I don't actually own a PlayStation. But if you do, then this GCM10 really is a nice addition if you like to play mobile games. Especially for emulating games it would be amazing!
Im also curious, since i dont have a ps4 controller.
Does not fit the DS3.... It's made for DS4 ONLY.
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Telescopic gamepad

I usually use a Gamesir 3gs gamepad to play games on all my previous phones . However, with the sheer size and weight of mate 20 x, there is no way to fit it in the clip that comes with the gamepad : https://gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g3s
I really wanted a telescopic gamepad like the Wee2 found here : https://www.amazon.com/Bounabay-Wireless-Telescopic-Bluetooth-Controller/dp/B06XKSNCTM
The problem is none of these gamepads support phones above 7 inches.
The ipega 9083 does the trick but its still bulky : http://ipega.hk/gamehandle/53-98.html
Can anyone recommend a good compact telescopic gamepad?
gothikserpent said:
I usually use a Gamesir 3gs gamepad to play games on all my previous phones . However, with the sheer size and weight of mate 20 x, there is no way to fit it in the clip that comes with the gamepad : https://gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g3s
I really wanted a telescopic gamepad like the Wee2 found here : https://www.amazon.com/Bounabay-Wireless-Telescopic-Bluetooth-Controller/dp/B06XKSNCTM
The problem is none of these gamepads support phones above 7 inches.
The ipega 9083 does the trick but its still bulky : http://ipega.hk/gamehandle/53-98.html
Can anyone recommend a good compact telescopic gamepad?
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Try Ipega 9087.
saironjay said:
Try Ipega 9087.
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it only supports phones up to 6.2 inches(172mm) and the mate 20 X is 174 mm.
gothikserpent said:
it only supports phones up to 6.2 inches(172mm) and the mate 20 X is 174 mm.
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Correct, I have the iopega and my mate 20 x doesn't fit.
turilo said:
Correct, I have the iopega and my mate 20 x doesn't fit.
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let me know when you have a good alternative.
gothikserpent said:
I usually use a Gamesir 3gs gamepad to play games on all my previous phones . However, with the sheer size and weight of mate 20 x, there is no way to fit it in the clip that comes with the gamepad : https://gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g3s
I really wanted a telescopic gamepad like the Wee2 found here : https://www.amazon.com/Bounabay-Wireless-Telescopic-Bluetooth-Controller/dp/B06XKSNCTM
The problem is none of these gamepads support phones above 7 inches.
The ipega 9083 does the trick but its still bulky : http://ipega.hk/gamehandle/53-98.html
Can anyone recommend a good compact telescopic gamepad?
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sorry cannot help in this regard but do these controllers work with PUBG without getting banned ???
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gothikserpent said:
I usually use a Gamesir 3gs gamepad to play games on all my previous phones . However, with the sheer size and weight of mate 20 x, there is no way to fit it in the clip that comes with the gamepad : https://gamesir.hk/collections/gamepads/products/gamesir-g3s
I really wanted a telescopic gamepad like the Wee2 found here : https://www.amazon.com/Bounabay-Wireless-Telescopic-Bluetooth-Controller/dp/B06XKSNCTM
The problem is none of these gamepads support phones above 7 inches.
The ipega 9083 does the trick but its still bulky : http://ipega.hk/gamehandle/53-98.html
Can anyone recommend a good compact telescopic gamepad?
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It fits quite well in the Moga Pro, even with the supplied TPU case on.
coredump said:
It fits quite well in the Moga Pro, even with the supplied TPU case on.
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Doesn't it feel top heavy?
gothikserpent said:
Doesn't it feel top heavy?
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Not really much more than it always has. I've always used it with larger phones, so I probably don't notice it anymore. That said, I really like that Ipega controller you linked to.
I use the GameSir 4, but without the case, and it`s a little danger, can slip from the clip, need take care when moving
I finally found an answer here that ipega 9087 doesn't fit.
Maybe this one?
https://www.amazon.com/Controller-B...1&refRID=8PYH73DXSPTV56ZQNTV1#customerReviews
Any suggestions for a telescopic?
I have both iPega 9083 and Betop G1 controllers. My game of choice is is Rangers of Oblivion.
- I prefer the 9083 overall for combat due to the right-side controls, but as other users have said it it bulky and takes up more space in my bag. You also can't easily reprogram buttons to cater for games with non-native support for gamepads.
- the G1 on the other hand is small, light and easy to carry around and charge (USB-C). But the lack of 2-side controls makes combat harder due to lack of tactile feedback buttons. But on the other hand, you can use it for any game with it's own in-built software to program buttons.
I ordered the betop g1 cause of the app assistant , I think it will be easier to map buttons for games through a native app.
However I think that I will hate the fact that it is half a controller.
I can't understand why they didn't give us an option for a whole controller and whoever wanted could use half of the controller.
I'm sure I'll try to find a whole telescopic to fit which won't be as bulky as the 9083...
I finally found a Bluetooth controller that will accommodate the mate 20 x : http://glap.co.kr/en/index.php
Its the Glap controller designed in collaboration with Samsung. It can be seen in the ads for the note 10.
Though it's designed for Samsung phones, it can be used on any other android phone. Here is a video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nl30gMy9I4
The only thing holding me back is the price; starting at 80 dollars I have a hard time forking out the cash.
If anybody pulls the trigger let me know what you think.
gothikserpent said:
I finally found a Bluetooth controller that will accommodate the mate 20 x : http://glap.co.kr/en/index.php
Its the Glap controller designed in collaboration with Samsung. It can be seen in the ads for the note 10.
Though it's designed for Samsung phones, it can be used on any other android phone. Here is a video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nl30gMy9I4
The only thing holding me back is the price; starting at 80 dollars I have a hard time forking out the cash.
If anybody pulls the trigger let me know what you think.
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I got one of these delivered today. Unfortunately with my Mate 20 X the controller is really laggy and goes crazy duplicating d-pad and button presses etc.
It also shows this same behaviour with my Nvidia shield TV but strangely NOT with my Mi Max 3... That device seems to function just fine. So it looks like certain devices won't be compatible.
It's disappointing, I was expecting a lot from the controller. Especially after buying an ipega 9083 and being disappointed by that one too.
Andy4Shurr said:
I got one of these delivered today. Unfortunately with my Mate 20 X the controller is really laggy and goes crazy duplicating d-pad and button presses etc.
It also shows this same behaviour with my Nvidia shield TV but strangely NOT with my Mi Max 3... That device seems to function just fine. So it looks like certain devices won't be compatible.
It's disappointing, I was expecting a lot from the controller. Especially after buying an ipega 9083 and being disappointed by that one too.
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That's odd, I thought it used standard Bluetooth.
I wonder what's causing the incompatibility.
That's very disappointing especially for the price.
Can you give me the link where you bought yours?
gothikserpent said:
That's odd, I thought it used standard Bluetooth.
I wonder what's causing the incompatibility.
That's very disappointing especially for the price.
Can you give me the link where you bought yours?
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Yeah it's really weird and unfortunate. I did email glap straight away but haven't had a response yet.
I bought mine from Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DRAGON-SLAY-Controller-Controllers-Compatible/dp/B07VFVZX4S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=glap+controller&qid=1567751880&s=gateway&sprefix=glap&sr=8-1
EDIT: I'll just add as well that it really is a squeeze and takes a bit of fiddling to fit the 20X in this thing, it starts to bend ever so slightly. With my Mi Max 3, which is ever so slightly taller, it bends even more and I was really uncomfortable having it in the mechanism with the device bending so much.
The good point is that the analog sticks have really good precision and feel nearly as good as the Alps modules you find in the Xbox and DS4 pads. EVERY other extendable controller I've used has been garbage in that respect so I'm pretty gutted about the lag and button pressing issue
Andy4Shurr said:
Yeah it's really weird and unfortunate. I did email glap straight away but haven't had a response yet.
I bought mine from Amazon
https://www.amazon.co.uk/DRAGON-SLAY-Controller-Controllers-Compatible/dp/B07VFVZX4S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?keywords=glap+controller&qid=1567751880&s=gateway&sprefix=glap&sr=8-1
EDIT: I'll just add as well that it really is a squeeze and takes a bit of fiddling to fit the 20X in this thing, it starts to bend ever so slightly. With my Mi Max 3, which is ever so slightly taller, it bends even more and I was really uncomfortable having it in the mechanism with the device bending so much.
The good point is that the analog sticks have really good precision and feel nearly as good as the Alps modules you find in the Xbox and DS4 pads. EVERY other extendable controller I've used has been garbage in that respect so I'm pretty gutted about the lag and button pressing issue
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I had my hopes up with the deceptive advertising.
They state on the Glap website that the gamepad supports up to 7.5" devices, the Mate 20 x is only 7.2 with very slim bezels and yet still it can hardly fit. I don't see any 7.5 inch phone on the market that would fit.
Did you keep the case on?
Please update us when you get an answer from Glap, otherwise I think I'll settle for an xbox one controller with a clip.
gothikserpent said:
I had my hopes up with the deceptive advertising.
They state on the Glap website that the gamepad supports up to 7.5" devices, the Mate 20 x is only 7.2 with very slim bezels and yet still it can hardly fit. I don't see any 7.5 inch phone on the market that would fit.
Did you keep the case on?
Please update us when you get an answer from Glap, otherwise I think I'll settle for an xbox one controller with a clip.
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I mean it fits but jeez, it's REALLY tight. I have to take the case off, it simply won't go in with it on.
Glap replied about 10 minutes ago but only to say they're passing it on to the technical team and that they'll get back to me with an answer.
I've got an Xbox controller and clip as well, in terms of the quality it's the best out there along with the DS4. I just wanted the extendable form factor and I've been after a decent one for ages.

ROG Kunai Gamepad 2?

Hey everyone,
I've been looking at the Rog Phone 2 as a potential upgrade for awhile now, and am considering buying it on Giztop rather than waiting for a US release. I would like to get it with the Kunai Gamepad 2 (seems like a perfect gamepad for emulators and I really like joy-con style controllers) but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find the controller or if it's even been released yet? For those who may already have the Kunai Gamepad 2, how good is it compared to other attachable android controllers?
Caffeine Cup said:
Hey everyone,
I've been looking at the Rog Phone 2 as a potential upgrade for awhile now, and am considering buying it on Giztop rather than waiting for a US release. I would like to get it with the Kunai Gamepad 2 (seems like a perfect gamepad for emulators and I really like joy-con style controllers) but I can't seem to find it anywhere. Does anyone know where I can find the controller or if it's even been released yet? For those who may already have the Kunai Gamepad 2, how good is it compared to other attachable android controllers?
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Not yet released bro. It comes out december 2019
Kunai gamempad, already available in China
Kunai gamepad it's already here. I've got only the version to attach it to the phone, since i don't need the adapter to use it as an independent Bluetooth controller.
It comes with the central bumper, the 2 joycons and 1 adapter from usbC to jack, in case you don't wanna use the fan but still wanna use the headset, since the default jack will be covered by the bumper.
It has some presets already for few games, and the rest are completely customizable. I'm still configuring it so I can't give an opinion yet. I can only post 1 picture from the phone.
If someone has any other question, let me know and I'll test whatever I can. View attachment 4851177
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Are there buttons on the back of the controller and do the sticks click in? Giving an L3 R3 option?
Giztop is now taking pre-orders as well
Cammarratta said:
Are there buttons on the back of the controller and do the sticks click in? Giving an L3 R3 option?
Giztop is now taking pre-orders as well
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Yes, besides the L1, L2, R1 and R2, there is also an M1 on the right hand, and M2 on the left hand, both on the rear side.
PD: looks like i can post more pictures now
Edit: forgot to say, yes, the sticks can click in, there is L3 and R3
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Very nice! Does it feel comfortable to hold in hand? And how is the deadzone recognizing on the right analog stick? Usually with these gamepads the right analog stick sucks for things such as aiming and whatnot. I liked how the black shark 2 had a touch pad but it was u comfortable to hold after awhile.
Giztop, Asus Singapore, and B&H here in the United States have been taking orders for a week. You can get it by the end of October or so. I do look forward to finally having it
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Very nice! Does it feel comfortable to hold in hand? And how is the deadzone recognizing on the right analog stick? Usually with these gamepads the right analog stick sucks for things such as aiming and whatnot. I liked how the black shark 2 had a touch pad but it was u comfortable to hold after awhile.
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Yeah, the right analog stick is not really useful... On shooter games, it still better to aim using the touchscreen. You can adjust the sensitivity on each game though. Left stick works great
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I'm that case do you have to have both controllers connected to use them or can you do it like the flydigi wasp?
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I'm that case do you have to have both controllers connected to use them or can you do it like the flydigi wasp?
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you dont need to use both. it come with a side protection for the bumpers in case you only want to use one side of the controller. The fact is that when the controller is pluffed, the touchscreen stills working, so it doesnt matter if you plug or not the right side of the controller, in shooter games you can still aim with the right joystick or with the touchscreen on the same time. if you remove that part, then only the touchscreen will work. Even air triggers still working on the same time if you want
rossonero777 said:
Kunai gamepad it's already here. I've got only the version to attach it to the phone, since i don't need the adapter to use it as an independent Bluetooth controller.
It comes with the central bumper, the 2 joycons and 1 adapter from usbC to jack, in case you don't wanna use the fan but still wanna use the headset, since the default jack will be covered by the bumper.
It has some presets already for few games, and the rest are completely customizable. I'm still configuring it so I can't give an opinion yet. I can only post 1 picture from the phone.
If someone has any other question, let me know and I'll test whatever I can. View attachment 4851177
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looks cool! how was it? comfy when playing long hour of gaming session?
GAME ON said:
looks cool! how was it? comfy when playing long hour of gaming session?
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havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
rossonero777 said:
havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
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i see, thanks for ur kind response! gonna note that
How do you map the controller to basic games? Is there some kind of app or does game genie recognize the controller and you can go in there to remap the controller? Is the remap only applicable to games that support game pad or is it to any game? Reason I am asking is because I don't play pubg shooter game. I play generic games. Can you also use it as a basic Bluetooth controller?
Sorry for a lot of questions, these controllers are quote expensive and there is no return, so I have to make sure it serves my purpose.
Excobar90 said:
How do you map the controller to basic games? Is there some kind of app or does game genie recognize the controller and you can go in there to remap the controller? Is the remap only applicable to games that support game pad or is it to any game? Reason I am asking is because I don't play pubg shooter game. I play generic games. Can you also use it as a basic Bluetooth controller?
Sorry for a lot of questions, these controllers are quote expensive and there is no return, so I have to make sure it serves my purpose.
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It works in a similar way than Air triggers. Actually, exactly the same. when you open the game/app, swipe the game genie from the right side, and you will see a new icon there, called Kunai, just under the air trigger's icon. You press there, and then the whole screen will dim a bit, and there you will overlay the whole layout or the buttons that you need, on the app/game interface, an that set up will be saved for that game/app.
To use it as a bluetooth controller, I think you will need the central piece of the Kunai, which I don't have, because the inclusion of that piece made it to double the price. At least here in china, the options I saw were:
- Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
- Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right + central piece to attach Joycons and where I think the bluetooth connection is = 999 rmb
in my opinion, second option is a bit too much since i dont plan to use the Phone as a docked console, but if you do, it might be an option. the thing is that there is no power button or charging port on the kunai that I have, energy only comes through the usb when the kunai its attached to the phone, thats why I guess the central part (that i dont have) will contain the battery and the bluetooth feature, and somehow justify its price.
Thanks for the response, i pretty much got all the answers needed. Since i map/overlay the button layout, i am definetely getting one. I got the cheap Ipega Bluetooth controller, although it works but i can not find a way to change the layout.
In the US the option to buy the controller that i saw is: _ Gamepad, the Gamepad grip and the Kunai Bumper case = 150 usd (999rmb). I would think this is the second option you mentioned and they is no option for return. This is very expensive that is why i asked the questions. I plan on using the Bluetooth capability of the controller and may end up using it as an additional controller for my Nintendo Switch with the help of an adaptor hopefully it works.
So far do you like using it? is it comfortable enough?
Please share the name of the suppliers in China where i can get the - Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
Thanks
Excobar90 said:
Thanks for the response, i pretty much got all the answers needed. Since i map/overlay the button layout, i am definetely getting one. I got the cheap Ipega Bluetooth controller, although it works but i can not find a way to change the layout.
In the US the option to buy the controller that i saw is: _ Gamepad, the Gamepad grip and the Kunai Bumper case = 150 usd (999rmb). I would think this is the second option you mentioned and they is no option for return. This is very expensive that is why i asked the questions. I plan on using the Bluetooth capability of the controller and may end up using it as an additional controller for my Nintendo Switch with the help of an adaptor hopefully it works.
So far do you like using it? is it comfortable enough?
Please share the name of the suppliers in China where i can get the - Bumper where you put the phone in (via USB-C) + Kunai left&right = 499 rmb
Thanks
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You are welcome. Well, i live in China and I've got it from Jingdong, kind of the "Chinese Amazon" let me post the link
https://item.m.jd.com/product/59276...are&utm_campaign=t_335139774&utm_term=CopyURL
Hope it works, but i don't think they deliver to any other country outside China. My Chinese is not good enough to check that
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rossonero777 said:
havent had that one hour gaming session yet! haha.
according to my short experience:
Call of duty mobile and PUBG: right analog stick is way more slow and imprecise than using the touchscreen, rest of the buttons are great
Dolphin emulator Game Cube / wii: I manily lost all my time tryint to set up this. Problem is, you can set up only 1 mapping setup per app, that means that when you change the controller type (freom wii mote to game cube controller for example) then all your set up it's a mess. The best solution is first set up the key mapping for the kunai, and after that, make fit both Game cube and wii controlers to that previous set up, but i lost a lot of time until i figured that out :silly: tonight I will continue testing
Havent tried anythin else. Saw that brawl stars also is compatible but didnt try it yet.
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Is the right analog stick that slow on these games? I thought on buying it for COD mobile and some other rpg / mmo games, but the right stick is usually the aim one. If it's much slower it might be a deal breaker for me.. And that's a bummer =/
kobkobb said:
Is the right analog stick that slow on these games? I thought on buying it for COD mobile and some other rpg / mmo games, but the right stick is usually the aim one. If it's much slower it might be a deal breaker for me.. And that's a bummer =/
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In my opinion, yes, the right stick sucks for aiming. Maybe it's me, you could give it a try. Good thing is, when the kunai is attached, it stills comfortable enough to aim using the touchscreen and shoot with the kunai trigger, Just ignoring the right joystick. I havent tried any rpg/mmo game yet. If you mention any, I will give it a try.
My mmo games are mostly lineage 2 and world of kings..
But I play more shooters games (well, COD actually..).
Have you tried playing with the sensitivity options in game?
Ot is it a lag issue?
If it's a lag issue I won't buy it probably =/

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