Hi, I'm new to the forums and I want to know if I can switch/combine my internal and external sd cards on my SGH-T399(T-Mobile). I also have it rooted with TWRP 2.7.0.0. Also I tried the vold.fstab method but it just stayed on the T-Mobile LTE screen for about 10 minutes until I turned it off and reset it with Odin. So if it's possible please expain it in noob format. Thanks!
Anyone?
hopefully this helps
I am in the same situation as you are. I found a thread with a possible solution but its for a different device. I am in the process of trying it out and hoping it solves my little dilemma. I will post up updates and/or results asap.
I've been making some headway on my t-399n.
Search for my thread "Metro PCS Sgh-t399n.
I've enabled init.d support & swap file capabilities, I have 750MB virtual memory from three partitions, and running some VERY sweet init.d scripts.
Now I'm attempting to modify & customize our stock kernel using various init.d scripts...
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I've been making some headway on my t-399n.
Search for my thread "Metro PCS Sgh-t399n.
I've enabled init.d support & swap file capabilities, I have 750MB virtual memory from three partitions, and running some VERY sweet init.d scripts.
Now I'm attempting to modify & customize our stock kernel using various init.d scripts...
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Swap file has nothing to do with combining internal and external memory. From what I know you can link a partition from the external memory to the internal memory to expand it but not combine the whole external and internal memory to form one memory partition.
Let me clarify, that was misleading.. sorry. I've tried combining the two, and my phone quit recognizing external all together. It was an init.d script. Perhaps I didn't understand how to properly do it.
The point I was trying to convey is that if we get swap going, maybe somebody will use the same premise and have more success than I did ?
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Hi,
I am new here and did my best searching but couldn;t find a conclusive answer so i just need some suggestions about a way forward.
So far using Froyo's move to SD implementation I have managed to gain some space on the phone for more apps but i am still running out. I also have to use the slow Apps 2 SD application.
So my problem is I want more space for apps. Using adb, setting the install location to SD card helps provide some more but i have hit that limit too.
So, from what i've read so far, there is another symbolic link based method, that creates a partition on the SD card and then the phone appears to think its still on the phone.
I have a stock ROM and would prefer not having a custom ROM for now. What would be the suggested way of getting Apps2sdext functionality? I mean like installing a package after rooting.
I have read about rooting, and apps2sdext also seems to need root. But i'd really appreciate if somebody could drop some links as to what I could do. Here are my thoughts of what they might be:
Root phone
Format SD card with partitions
Install a2sd
Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
Ok so for now I see I can use Z4Root to root my phone. So i've sorted that part out.
I also saw on DarkTremor apps2sd page that stock roms need a custom init.rc. Where are the instructions for that?
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Another question: is there no way of using Gparted, etc to resize partitions and create the ext4 partition on pc? As in before taking it to the phone? that way no need to reinstall some apps.
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I'm not quite sure. I'm not an A2SD user. But, here are my hunches/ideas/opinions:
I suggest you partition with the partitioner in the recovery image. A2SD may have trouble finding the ext partition when the layout is quite different from what it expects, though I'm not quite sure.
As for not having to reinstall apps, this is what I did prior to installing A2SD:
Move all apps to phone memory
Backup
Partition SD
Flash A2SD
Install A2SD (yes, I had to manually launch a2sd scripts --')
Done
Works as intended, but I've found that there wasn't a significant increase in free phone memory storage, but I'm very sure a2sd was applied.
So I went back to native A2SD.
Which leads me to say: I suggest flashing a custom ROM with A2SD integrated
Idk, maybe I just didn't give A2SD some time. Just try it out.
Hmmm interesting! Still digging up more info as i go along...
Ok so far I installed, z4root and it installs fine and does the whole root and restart thing.
Now when i browse from adb shell i still get the $ prompt and not the # prompt. But when i go into z4root it provides options for re-root and un-root...
UPDATE: well i found out that once the shell opens as $, you type su. When you do that look at your phone and accept the superuser request, otherwise permission denied appears on the pc screen. now i have the # prompt!!!
UPDATE: Got Clockworkmod running now! and exploring a2sd... i give up. cannot find a concise thing that says here's the script that you use after doing the clockworkmod. what do i do???
Hi,I came from megatron rom and is using CM7 rom now.Not sure partitioning of sd card work on stock rom but you can try.
Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for anything that happens to your phone! Below is what I did.
Instructions: Download DarkTremor Apps2sd.zip file.
Then,Backup all your sd card contents on your PC.You MUST backup as partitioning of sd card will wipe the whole sd card.
Reboot in recovery and select partition sd card > Partition sd card again> Swap Size:Choose 0 (I'm not sure what the other numbers will do.) > Then 512mb for the next option.Then it will start partitioning. > After you're done,upgrade ext.2 to ext.3 > Then upgrade ext.3 to ext.4 > After that,connect usb or take out sd card and put DarkTremor apps2sd.zip file in the root of your sd card and then flash it!
DONE AND PROFIT!
Your internal storage should decrease very slowly because your apps are now 'tricked' into being installed on your sd card Hope this helps!
Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
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Sorted my problem out!!
Gonna post details asap! So excited
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So you did my method or what?
Nope actually not. Found a simpler method that's easier for noobs.
So here goes in very short since I don't have links
1. Split memory card into two partitions. I used 1GB. I did the partitioning on Ubuntu as it was much easier to just resize the partition using gparted. I am not sure what file systems are supported for the apps but i used ext3 for the 1GB. Backup should not be necessary but you are welcome to be careful
2. Root phone with z4root, very straightforward process
3. Install Link2SD from Android Market.
4. Once its installed, it'll prob ask for root permissions. Grant them.
5. Open Link2SD and in the list, one by one for each app you'd like to move, select and it opens a page with some details. Just click on create link, and in the next page an option for moving cache also shows. Select that too. Then the app gets moved in the background and slowly your space starts increasing.
6. I did not move any preinstalled apps that came with the phone. Just moving the apps I installed gave me plenty of space not to worry with App 2 SD (froyo method) or anything. Also with this method, mounting for USB Mass Storage also gets quicker.
What's there not to line?
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
Running Stock rom
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yanuk said:
Always do a nandroid backup! I didn't as i didn't think much of an app.. my phone went into continued android logo loop. After several tries of battery pull,I managed to get into the phone but many of my apps went missing.. sighz...
Running Stock rom
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You mean the backup option that is there in clockwork mod recovery menu right? I screwed up the files once and the backup came in real handy!
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It may not help you but I was using megatron rom froyo 2.2 and had barley any memory space on my phone and since I flashed CM7 rom from milk I have tons of space I have twice as many as many apps and stol 100 megabits left
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Just curious, on a scale of 10 how hard is it to get cm7 onto your optimistic? And any clue whether existing settings are lost? Any other benefits? And features missing? It would be nice if we either got more battery life or better performance if not both
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I use a stock ROM (2.2.1) and I have rooted and installed "Move2SD Enabler" from the market and moved all the apps to SD (except for widgets) in the plain simple old fashion. I currently have over 150 apps installed with about 90MBytes of internal memory free.
Hi Guys,
I would have tacked this onto the back of an existing thread, but the only relevant ones I could find were in development (I’m still under 10 posts) – and this is more of a general usage question anyway.
I’m running CM7.0.2 and been I’ve been using Apps2SD (darktremor) for a month or so. The onboard memory for apps on the Legend is abysmal, so freeing space up and being able to have more than half a dozen apps is great. I was looking to take up Data2ext too. I’m still S-ON (I haven’t found a serious need for S-OFF yet, and I figure the less access I have to the bowels of my phone, the less likely I’m gonna brick it), so still using CWM2.x and obviously not running EXT4 yet.
Just wanted to ask a couple of stupid n00b questions before I try anything (I’d rather ask this now, then be posting “help I ****ed up my phone” later on).
- Am I right in believing that that data2ext only moves app data, not the apps themselves to the SD car so I need to continue using apps2sd as a companion script?
- Does data2ext need its own additional partition setting up prior – or does it create its own partition/utilize an existing partition? If there needs to be a preconfigured partition, any recommendations on how much space to allocate?
- Is there anything in particular that I need to know before I run through TGF’s guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902395)?
Thanks for the help guys!
data2ext will use the partition that darktremor currently uses, and you don't want to have dark tremor and data2ext on at the same time, funny things happen.
Data2ext remounts the entire data partition to a partition on the SD card. So anything that gets written to /data (apps, app data etc) goes to the SD card instead.
You need to know that this could go wrong, but I think the first post covers most of it.
That makes sense. I previously wasn’t sure if data2ext only moved app data only, and apps2sd still needed to be used to move the actual apps themselves. As that’s not the case, it’ll make things much easier not having to **** around with 2 different scripts to hopefully get them to play nicely.
I did actually end up stepping up to Blayo’s fake-flash CWM 3.0.1.3 yesterday; though I’m still trying to work out partitions/file systems with it – creating partitions in CWM recovery defaults to EXT3 with no option to set EXT4, and after manually creating an EXT4 partition in GParted CWM wouldn’t let me mount /sd-ext. As your initial post already details formatting /sd-ext to EXT4 anyway, it’ll be interesting to see how nicely this plays with 3.0.1.3.
Thanks for the disclaimer on the risks involved. Without intending to sound patronising; I’m well aware there is the ever present potential to really **** things up, and that I do only have limited knowledge compared to a lot of people posting on xda – which is why I try and get any/all information available before hand, and follow instructions given closely.
Coo'. Just shout if you need help, I'm subscribed to this thread so I should see it
Seems to have worked like a charm.
One question though – I know you can confirm data2ext is successfully running by launching "data2ext --enable" a second time after the final reboot, but is there any means to monitor the used/available space on /sd-ext?
Both Titanium Backup and a2sdGUI allowed me to keep tabs on this, but Ti is unable to see the /sd-ext partition now (I haven’t bothered installing a2sdGUI, not really any point).
It might be a small thing, but if possible I would like to be able to see it fill up, just to give me piece of mind all is OK.
*edit* scratch that last part, just noticed Android and Ti now sees the Internal Memory as a total combined capacity the internal memory + /sd-ext. Eitherway, I'm up and running
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
I've a noob question too, if the sd card is partitioned to allow some internal apps to run on this special partition what is currently the safest procedure to do this?
tushar_beriwal said:
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
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The Class should be written on the Card.. in a circle..
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I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
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I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
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The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
You're kidding. Ugh! Maybe it was the method I used to format?
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The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
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Seriously?
So are you using a class 4 with your own cm data2ext script and in ext2 or ext4?
Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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easy man, i was just asking out of curiosity
i'm already using apps2ext and dont need data2ext, but it thought data2ext was slow on all card classes thats why i asked his setup just so i know
Hi,
Since this is a noob thread I'm feeling free to ask for help.
Somehow without any knowledge I've managed to Root my Legend, Flash roms numerous times, make my Legend S-Off, twig and play with different options like splash screen and all sorts of stuff that you need a bit or more of development knowledge. I'm a psychologist - I have no knowledge whatsoever.
Now that I've flashed ogo2's rom found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251, I have cut down internal space to about 20MB+-.
I need help with this whole data2ext, ext2/ext4 and all the commands I've never met in earlier development stuff I've done to my Legend.
Where do I start? Is there anywhere I can read a noob guide for these issues?
Please help!
reupugi
edit: Oh I forgot - I have 8 GB class 4 card.
What help do you need? Understanding what it is and how it works? Or just setting it up.
Are you planning on using the data2ext found in my thread, or somewhere else?
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Hi TGF,
I need help mainly with setting it up. I have no intention learning developing through trying here and there to implement different things others created.
My intention was to use the data2ext you created.
At the moment I've changed back to the nightly builds of CM7 (currently #153), since I had sync problems with ogo2's ROM. So I'm not so pressured space wise, but I'll still be glad to go through with the Data2ext.
Thanx,
reupugi
Ok, well the guide in the first post covers most of it, is there a specific bit you're stuck on?
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It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
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It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
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You do need to backup your sd card, our you lose all your data. Rom manager has an option for creating ext partitions on your sd card, and I'd go for ext4, as it's safer. There's a section in that thread on upgrading from the ext2 version. Create your position with rom manager, then follow that section through. The commands can be executed on the phone using a terminal emulator, or from the pc using adb.
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I have a HTC Legend running on NewSense RC4. I have App2SD installed. I've changed the default install location to SD Card via " pm shell setInstallLocation 2". Though I've done all this, I have only around 2-3 MB space always. I're removed the data and cache for many apps. Yet, this is the situation. And I only have 52 APPS.
Please tell me another method to increase the amount of space. Please don't sugesst me to flash to another ROM.
I also read somewhere about partitions on SD card or something. Can you please enlighten me on this?
Note: I read to fast and COMPLETELY skipped the part where you said "Don't tell me to flash another rom" I am soooooo sorry!
The only other option I can give you is to flash Cyanogenmod7 and use data2ext if you want app space, but that is probably out of the question for you!
On the partitioning note:
Partitioning quite simply means splitting your microSD card into 2 or more PARTS (hintART-itioning). Often times, partitioning is used to create a separate space for apps2SD or data2ext. The simplest way to partition is to download rom manager (you must have root and be able to boot into recovery) and choose the option "partition sd card" choose 0 swap , then choose 512mb partitioning space! WARNING: this will delete EVERYTHING on your memory card, so either turn back, or backip tour mem. Card! After it is partitioned, you can proceed to add apps to the new partition of your SD card. Note this will, like I said, split your memory card space! Ex:
If you hav a 1 GB (1024 MB) Memory card, after partitioning, your memory for files will decrease to 512 mb, while 512 mb is reserved for your apps!
Just a word of advice from a fellow XDA-er!
I am not aware whether or not the HTC legend runs Cyanogenmod7 or not, but it would be well worth the flash to use it. Unless you are in love with the Sense UI (because CM7 uses 2.3.3 Gingerbread) then come on over to the Cyan side . Data2ext takes your ENTIRE data section of your phone (that part that holds the meat and bones of an app, PLUS the huge apk file) and puts it in that partition you created. Data2ext is simply a flashable script that puts that partition in action. After flashing the script via recovery, just go to your terminal emulator app on your phone and on the first line, type "su" (without quotes) and then type "data2ext --enable" (exactly as typed without quotes) and vuala, your REAL data section on your phone is literally virtually UNTOUCHED! Which makes your phone a lot faster. There is also a script that let's you choose the size of your partition (no more than 2 GB is strongly recommended) but I haven't used that script just yet, but will soon! Data2ext is WAY bettr than apps to SD! I know that I did way more than just answer your question, but I wanted to answer, plus give a better alternative should you choose to use it
Hope I answered ur question,
Ognimnella
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ognimnella said:
Note: I read to fast and COMPLETELY skipped the part where you said "Don't tell me to flash another rom" I am soooooo sorry!
The only other option I can give you is to flash Cyanogenmod7 and use data2ext if you want app space, but that is probably out of the question for you!
On the partitioning note:
Partitioning quite simply means splitting your microSD card into 2 or more PARTS (hintART-itioning). Often times, partitioning is used to create a separate space for apps2SD or data2ext. The simplest way to partition is to download rom manager (you must have root and be able to boot into recovery) and choose the option "partition sd card" choose 0 swap , then choose 512mb partitioning space! WARNING: this will delete EVERYTHING on your memory card, so either turn back, or backip tour mem. Card! After it is partitioned, you can proceed to add apps to the new partition of your SD card. Note this will, like I said, split your memory card space! Ex:
If you hav a 1 GB (1024 MB) Memory card, after partitioning, your memory for files will decrease to 512 mb, while 512 mb is reserved for your apps!
Just a word of advice from a fellow XDA-er!
I am not aware whether or not the HTC legend runs Cyanogenmod7 or not, but it would be well worth the flash to use it. Unless you are in love with the Sense UI (because CM7 uses 2.3.3 Gingerbread) then come on over to the Cyan side . Data2ext takes your ENTIRE data section of your phone (that part that holds the meat and bones of an app, PLUS the huge apk file) and puts it in that partition you created. Data2ext is simply a flashable script that puts that partition in action. After flashing the script via recovery, just go to your terminal emulator app on your phone and on the first line, type "su" (without quotes) and then type "data2ext --enable" (exactly as typed without quotes) and vuala, your REAL data section on your phone is literally virtually UNTOUCHED! Which makes your phone a lot faster. There is also a script that let's you choose the size of your partition (no more than 2 GB is strongly recommended) but I haven't used that script just yet, but will soon! Data2ext is WAY bettr than apps to SD! I know that I did way more than just answer your question, but I wanted to answer, plus give a better alternative should you choose to use it
Hope I answered ur question,
Ognimnella
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Yes, I read about the partitioning method. I've a few questions.
1. Will this method work on ANY ROM ?
2. Will I reclaim ALL my internal memory?
3. Is this is a sure shot method to install AS MANY apps as we need (the only condition being you that much SD card partition space) ?
4. Can you please link me to a detailed tutorial?
abhishek_turbo911 said:
Yes, I read about the partitioning method. I've a few questions.
1. Will this method work on ANY ROM ?
2. Will I reclaim ALL my internal memory?
3. Is this is a sure shot method to install AS MANY apps as we need (the only condition being you that much SD card partition space) ?
4. Can you please link me to a detailed tutorial?
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1. Method will only work on rom that support it.
2. You will get a lot of internal memory back but data will remain internal unless you move app's data to sd-ext also.
3. Method trick the phone into thinking the sd-ext is part of your internal memory so you'll be able to install a good amount of apps.
4. Search Dark Tremor's a2sd or S2E in the market.
abhishek_turbo911 said:
Yes, I read about the partitioning method. I've a few questions.
1. Will this method work on ANY ROM ?
2. Will I reclaim ALL my internal memory?
3. Is this is a sure shot method to install AS MANY apps as we need (the only condition being you that much SD card partition space) ?
4. Can you please link me to a detailed tutorial?
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1. No to my knowledge it only works on CM7 (and you said flashing a new rom is out of the question)
2. Yes, plus more
3. Yes, so far, I hav somewhere around 85 apps installed (and that's with 512 mb only, with 150-200mb still left
4. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902395
P.S. - If you want to have the freedom of installing up to 2GB partition space for apps, use data2ext-v4. If you want the already preset 512mb, then use data2ext-v7 (it is thoroughly explained in the post)
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Hello guyz,
I have a "rooted" micromax A44, an mtk based phone loaded with gb. Yes, It hs very low internal memory (a mere 170mb dedicated for user apps nd its data). There are no roms nor a recovery available. So im at my wits end. I tried these to overcome the problem.
1. changed internal apps (system) into user ones using Titanium Backup and moved them to sd card. still the app's data remained internal, low memory.
2. Tried link2sd to link apk's, lib files nd dalvik cache, still data stayed on internal memory.
3. Same results with apps2sd.
But, I still could have made it possible with data2sd, mounts2sd, etc. I couldn't. This is where the real problem is. Mine is a "stock" gb with root access. So maybe its the reason unable to recognize ext2,3,4 partitions on my sd card(8gb). therefore, none of those scripts worked.
link2sd worked as fat32 was supported by the kernel.
So this is my question. is ther any way I can reduce burden on the internal memory?? No matter how carefull I am, the /data partition gets hogged with files even after I removed all "my" apps leaving system apps alone.
Used all kind of cleaners possible (sd maid, clean master, memory booster, etc..) but no effect.
P.S. I even supercharged my phone as its the only script which I need not flash. adenaline, tweakz etc needs to be flashed, which in my case, never gonna happen.(no custom recovery, roms).
U people are my last hope.
Thanks
Pls tell me how you root your Micromax a44 ..
Aakhir kaise bhaai
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Hey. Guys ill root my a44 sm1 pls tell me how to install android 4.1 jellybean
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Are there any current ROMs that don't require an external SDcard in the slot to download apps, etc?
[I tried the "cherry picks" ROM which already has the mounting points swapped, but an SD card was still required for dl'ing apps. Also the various hacks (e.g. persist.sys.vold.switchexternal=1, swapping mounting points...) on various ROMs from Succulent 10.0 - 10.1 to acclaim RC2-RC5 and nothing has worked.]
Maybe someone can kindly tell me why the dedicated developers working on Android for tablets (vs phones) don't modify the ROMs to use internal storage? When apps require an SD card there should be a way for the OS to 'trick' the app into using the sideloading partition, or even the main emmc as ext sdcard, no? The Cyanogen OS is such a great little OS except for this one fatal flaw. Is it really that difficult of a problem to address? (sincerely asking as I am not a programmer but wish I was!) Thanks for any insight.
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Are there any current ROMs that don't require an external SDcard in the slot to download apps, etc?
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You might want to try Succulent's CM10.1 builds posted at http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/cm10-1-jellybean-android-4-2-2-for-nook-tablet-0218/ (look for extra sd-location tweak flash under heading "Flash this if you want your downloaded app data to be stored in EMMC (sdcard0)").
Two assumptions that I'm making:
This replaces the whole kernel?
Results of flashing it on, say, AOKP would be unpredictable?
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