Is Android Development for Alpha dead? - Samsung Galaxy Alpha

Hi guys, I'm planning to get alpha or some similar phone, and yeah, i have YouTube channel and i m recording some ROM reviews and some things about phones, as i can see there's just one ROM in android development Will be there more, if yes i will pick this phone for sure, would you suggest me some other phone to pick instead this, that have great developer support? Its really disappointing that there's one rom just for alpha it is really beautiful phone
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KiaTheKing said:
Hi guys, I'm planning to get alpha or some similar phone, and yeah, i have YouTube channel and i m recording some ROM reviews and some things about phones, as i can see there's just one ROM in android development Will be there more, if yes i will pick this phone for sure, would you suggest me some other phone to pick instead this, that have great developer support? Its really disappointing that there's one rom just for alpha it is really beautiful phone
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Yeah it's too bad about the alpha but it seems right now people want 5 inch screens so it loses out on that. I would recommend the S5 or HTC one m8, both have great dev support. But the best idea is to wait for spring/summer when the S6 and the new HTC is released

lingowistico said:
Yeah it's too bad about the alpha but it seems right now people want 5 inch screens so it loses out on that. I would recommend the S5 or HTC one m8, both have great dev support. But the best idea is to wait for spring/summer when the S6 and the new HTC is released
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I really really like alpha Probably i will sell mine lg g2 for 250 euros and i will add 100 or less and buy lg g3, i will play with it for a while and then i will buy galaxy s6 or some phone that will come out I was thinking about xperia z3 or z3 compact , but z4 will come out in march (i think so) , also i dont like plastic galaxy s5 but i like htc one m8....
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The Galaxy Alpha is a great phone! you don't need actually replace rom.

Just got a small ota update and se security update from play. Changelog anyone?
Perhaps preparing for 5.0

KiaTheKing said:
I really really like alpha Probably i will sell mine lg g2 for 250 euros and i will add 100 or less and buy lg g3, i will play with it for a while and then i will buy galaxy s6 or some phone that will come out I was thinking about xperia z3 or z3 compact , but z4 will come out in march (i think so) , also i dont like plastic galaxy s5 but i like htc one m8....
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Since quite a lots of android users switched-to/switched-back Iphone now because of 4.7"/5.5" Iphone launched. You really don't expect any android discussion board will be as busy as in the old age, the time has gone. Another major reason is nowadays people slowly upgrade their smartphone because hardware is started to mature. When you look on XDA, you will know many new phones development board isn't that active now.
I'm now with Z1 Compact and also thinking to upgrade to Z3 Compact or Alpha or S6(if it manage to smaller than S5 in size a bit) in around March/April. I think mostly I will pick Z3c or Alpha because I believe S6 would be too expensive to me and excess my budget but I will put an eye on it. Z4/Z4c/Z4U is almost sure to hit a big delay now, they will all announce only on May/June sometimes. So, I decided to don't wait them now.
If you like Alpha, just go get it. It is a rare Samsung phone though almost no development here but the phone itself is very capable without any support. If you want a little bit bigger community and need a microSD slot, then pick Z3c.

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Since quite a lots of android users switched-to/switched-back Iphone now because of 4.7"/5.5" Iphone launched. You really don't expect any android discussion board will be as busy as in the old age, the time has gone. Another major reason is nowadays people slowly upgrade their smartphone because hardware is started to mature. When you look on XDA, you will know many new phones development board isn't that active now.
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Switching to Iphone from more matured system? Iphone was good and impressive like 3 generations ago when android wasn't so matured system, nowdays I don't see a reason for people who own for example a S4 to switch to Iphone.
The latter part is very true, a 100€ phone can handle basically anything that basic user throws at it. And the devs and other people who can get more out of their current older phones trough custom roms, don't really have reasons for upgrade.

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Switching to Iphone from more matured system? Iphone was good and impressive like 3 generations ago when android wasn't so matured system, nowdays I don't see a reason for people who own for example a S4 to switch to Iphone.
The latter part is very true, a 100€ phone can handle basically anything that basic user throws at it. And the devs and other people who can get more out of their current older phones trough custom roms, don't really have reasons for upgrade.
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You gonna search more information. Iphone market share worldwide is same with Samsung in 2014 Q4 and already excess Samsung now in 2015 Q1 so Apple is the No.1 smartphone company again now.
System-wise is always Android better but since Iphone borrowed more and more functions from Android in every generation OS, the gap in different will just become smaller in long run. But on the other hand, Iphone still owns the most best apps and even both platform got the same one, IOS one usually performs better.

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You gonna search more information. Iphone market share worldwide is same with Samsung in 2014 Q4 and already excess Samsung now in 2015 Q1 so Apple is the No.1 smartphone company again now.
System-wise is always Android better but since Iphone borrowed more and more functions from Android in every generation OS, the gap in different will just become smaller in long run. But on the other hand, Iphone still owns the most best apps and even both platform got the same one, IOS one usually performs better.
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I don't like Apple at all... I really like Android cause you can access all parts of system and you can do many things. also i mentioned that i m making video reviews of many android roms and i need phone that have good developer support... Can u suggest me some phone that i can buy right now instead Note 4 (its too big)... I will buy some better phone (probably g4) when some phone that impress me come out.... Thanks for reply
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KiaTheKing said:
I don't like Apple at all... I really like Android cause you can access all parts of system and you can do many things. also i mentioned that i m making video reviews of many android roms and i need phone that have good developer support... Can u suggest me some phone that i can buy right now instead Note 4 (its too big)... I will buy some better phone (probably g4) when some phone that impress me come out.... Thanks for reply
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Only G3 or S5 or M8 have active development I can name(Z3/Z3c isn't active coz most people still using Z1/Z1c/Z2) but M8 camera is really suck I don't suggest it. And you don't like plastic samsung so no S5 I think, only G3 leave.
S6 will use Exynos and no S810, this time S6 development should not be very active as well because Exynos is harder to support. G4 will also hit a big delay becoz GFlex2 will out first on March/April, G4 won't appear until May/June much like Z4.

I feel bad right now cus im hoping to see alot of roms for this great device but i guese i was wrong.Im not upset or anything but this is why we buy android phones instead of iphone we need to change to somthing new
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Whats your thoughts on upgrading?

I was meant to upgrade last year, but held off to wait on the sgs4 (passed on the sgs3, stuck with my trusty sgs2). But was a little let down from what I've seen so far, from the photos it looks like a sgs3 (not a fan) but maybe in person it will be nice. So I tempted to jump ship for the htc one, started reading xda (As you do) and see posts saying the sgs4 might not get such great support from the usual suspects...that aint good.
So, if your reading this then you aint upgraded for similar reason no doubt...whats the plan? I mean, yeah I want those crazy specs, removable sd/battery...but stock roms and broken custom roms? Im seriously tempted on the htc one, however its a bit of a double edged sword, looks awesome, drop that **** and its ****ed. My sgs2 barely has a scratch.
Whats your thoughts sgs2 owners, Im still on ICS and not kept uptodate with the goings on here. I dont doubt there are awesome devs here, but if the major players dont take an intrest in the sgs4/exynos...its it doomed?
Do you wan't it just because you like to have last piece of tech and don't use even 5% of it..or you need it for better productivity in bussiness?
If first then i don't see a need for upgrade..
Dont get me wrong, I love gadgets, but i botched a screen replacement on my old hd2 (which is now my bros) so if I cant repair I will get a new one and give the sgs2 to my bro (sad to see the hd2 go tho). Anyway, Im more intrested on your thoughts if you were going to buy a new phone sgs4 or htc one? Like I said, Im not as into the whole modding thing as I used to (still like to flash custom roms tho), will the big guns not supporting the sgs4 make much diff? I would of thought so, but maybe there is talk on here?
Well i don't think i will get a new phone, but if it happenes it will definitely be either HTC One or Nexus 5..no need to give Samy money anymore..they have gone the Apple road
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Well i don't think i will get a new phone, but if it happenes it will definitely be either HTC One or Nexus 5..no need to give Samy money anymore..they have gone the Apple road
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Yup, it seems they try to much and forget the core aspects. Just saw this, not sure how true...maybe the uk will get the qualcomm after alll (still not sure if that will make a difference with CM)
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/03/samsung-galaxy-s4-quad-core-only-confirmed-for-the-uk/
What are the rest of your guys thoughts on the sgs4 vs htc one? I hate the thought of touchwiz for 18months, I would much rather vanilla android...but not sure about the htc one.
How about a nexus 4? I'm gonna check when Google i/o is. Should give a good idea of when the next nexus is out.
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My S2 contract is up next month and before its release I always planned to upgrade to an S4, however since the S4 launch I have decided to go for the HTC One.
I think the S2 , especially with jelly bean is still a great device but I will pass it on to my son to replace his rubbish galaxy ace, the S3 I think will be Samsungs peak device, the S4 seems to be more of the same, meh, no real innovations on the hardware side but lots of new and gimmicky touchwizz features. I feel as already mentioned by an earlier poster, that this feels a little Apple like...... buy our phone because it's a Samsung and because lots of other people buy it..... rather than....buy it because it's a great phone...
There are, to varying degrees, innovations on BlackBerry z10 (The hub and gestures), Nokia Lumia 920 , (baked in funtionality, low light camera and the live tiles of WP8) and The HTC One (gorgeous design, Zoe, Blinkfeed, ultra pixel camera) all that interest me as an enthusiast/nerd that the S4 just doesn't seem to have.
The Z10 looks great but it's to early in its life for me to spend 2 years without so many essential apps that may or may not arrive on the device. Android has really matured with jelly bean and so for me it is the HTC One
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Seriously S IV probably dosent need any custom ROM. It rocks as it is , stock. We on the S II need and want all this custom ROMs / kernels because we want that extra power and smoothness. No need to worry about developers not suporting it , in my opinion.
Now if you have money to spend buy the octo core one and be sure that at least two years you wont think about another upgrade.
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I was meant to upgrade last year, but held off to wait on the sgs4 (passed on the sgs3, stuck with my trusty sgs2). But was a little let down from what I've seen so far, from the photos it looks like a sgs3 (not a fan) but maybe in person it will be nice. So I tempted to jump ship for the htc one, started reading xda (As you do) and see posts saying the sgs4 might not get such great support from the usual suspects...that aint good.
So, if your reading this then you aint upgraded for similar reason no doubt...whats the plan? I mean, yeah I want those crazy specs, removable sd/battery...but stock roms and broken custom roms? Im seriously tempted on the htc one, however its a bit of a double edged sword, looks awesome, drop that **** and its ****ed. My sgs2 barely has a scratch.
Whats your thoughts sgs2 owners, Im still on ICS and not kept uptodate with the goings on here. I dont doubt there are awesome devs here, but if the major players dont take an intrest in the sgs4/exynos...its it doomed?
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if you are ok with your ver now, dont do it.
I'm of a similar opinion, S2 running well but if I can get a deal I'll upgrade. Torn between S4 and xperia Z. S2 was my first smart phone and I do like TW but I hear Sony is more developer friendly and I like the choice and freedom of flashing custom ROMs. Both phones will meet my performance requirements so will come down to cost eventually.
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I would say buy nexus 4. But, if you like Sammy based roms, you can go with Samsung s4. Im using sammy rom on s2 and i would never again flash aosp/cm based roms only because of screwed drivers. Cudos to devs to what did they do but.. True project butter is still better. I would buy s4 only because i dont mind using sammy based roms, like neatrom lite. And snapdragon version of s4 might have better support because they push their sources out i think. Wait until May to see nexus 5, then decide.
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HANDSY said:
I'm of a similar opinion, S2 running well but if I can get a deal I'll upgrade. Torn between S4 and xperia Z. S2 was my first smart phone and I do like TW but I hear Sony is more developer friendly and I like the choice and freedom of flashing custom ROMs. Both phones will meet my performance requirements so will come down to cost eventually.
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Go with s4, xperia z has really low specs for that kind of device. And not that good display, its like washed out, also UI is not smooth, it stutters a lot. Better buy nexus 4 instead of xperia z.
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Shamesung: no way. Not again... Sony, Moto xphone, nexus... Or apple. Will see what is the best for me in the following months.
Decisions decisions, next nexus also deserves serious consideration. Just not a fan of the black and white Google stock look.
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Decisions decisions, next nexus also deserves serious consideration. Just not a fan of the black and white Google stock look.
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You mean black and blue. you can flash or apply themes to make it like sammy for example. Thats why nexus is great. If i find great opportunity to buy n4 till May, i will, and if not, ill wait to see what nexus 5 will have. But right now, from devices on market, i would choose between nexus4 and s4. Htc one is good too, but that huge speaker grills on front? I mean come in, like some kid played with design. Also i saw 1080p video sample on youtube. It stutters like hell. Sure, it has great audio and its the best in low light capturing, but.. i personally dont need phone to shoot at night or in the dark. so, its s4 or nexus4.
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I agree, I'll probably sign up for a 30 day sim only rolling contract and run my S2 until prices stabilise and all phones are released and fully reviewed.
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I haven't made my mind up yet but it's going to be a toss up between the Xperia Z, BB Z10, HTC One or the next Nexus 5.
Specs and power are a consideration but....
Xperia Z because I miss reading a book in the bath! Possible development support and good noises coming from Sony but the same could be said for Samsung a few years back.
BB Z10 as the OS intrigues me.
HTC One for its beautiful design, BOM and form factor.
Nexus 5 for the custom appeal and all round Googleness. Strayed from the Nexus line with the S2 so might go back.
Not considering the S4 at the moment as it looks more like a S3 upgrade than revolution. Samsung played it safe, almost using the Apple model of next model releases and I don't like the end result. To paraphrase a song, "here is the new phone, same as the old phone".
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Even the best phone is only the best for 6 to 9 months before its superseded. I am even starting to consider the S3 as it's price is bound to drop once S4 arrives.
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My SII is now used by my wife, and I got an III last year
The SII is still attractive and running well - I went away from stock rom to CM10.1 latest nightlies. It is running perfectly and has now an up to date Android OS - Good value for the money I think
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My SII is now used by my wife, and I got an III last year
The SII is still attractive and running well - I went away from stock rom to CM10.1 latest nightlies. It is running perfectly and has now an up to date Android OS - Good value for the money I think
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Good to know thank you, is the development scene active over on the S3 forum? Just had a quick browse through and there is a decent selection of custom ROMs available.
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Galaxy Note 3 , will you buy it?

I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
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although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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Sold my S3 and now looking for an upgrade

Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
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Hi guys, I just sold my S3 LTE , as I cracked the screen and didn't want to repair it. I was looking for upgrade before that, so now the time has come.
I need a device that is a bit more rugged, not necessarily waterproof and so on... I read that the S4 is even more fragile though.
Anyway. I'd really love a high end device, so I don't have to upgrade it for the next 2 years.
I don't play games but do a lot of browsing, emailing and other work related stuff. I have good cameras so the camera on the phone just needs to be OK, but It should bebetter than the S3. I'm now using an iphone 5 and while it's a marelously well build and fast, I'm not quite sure I could deal with it's quirks. I've been on Android for almost 6 years, so you get what I mean.
I'm looking at :
LG G2 16GB
LG Nexus 5 16GB
Galaxy S4
Huaiwei Ascend P6
HTC ONE
Anything else you might recommend, except for Sony...
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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I really like the One too, but can you give some more details why would you choose it. And with the new model just around the corner - I'm no sure. I'm interested in the N5 too, bu tI'm put off by the small-ish battery
Friend of mine has the current One, played with it quite a bit. Its just everything i would want in a phone. Its really well made, fits very comfortably in your hand. I'm a fan of IPS LCD over AMOLED. Operations are much smoother and faster than Samsung. Blinkfeed is awesome (for me personally) and you have all the freedom of Android with a very good display incased in a very good body. Also i dont really need crap like airwave and air gesture, in fact, since 4.3 my smart stay barely works.
The One is just my personal choice, i think its the most balance between design, UI and performance. LG G2 isnt far behind. If you going to go with the One, u might as well wait for the new one. If you dont plan to get the new one, i'd probably go the G2 over the Old 1. The Snapdragon 800 will last u much longer than the 600 in the One (2013 edition) The G2 has IPS LCD as well and is very very fast. Only thing lacking is the aluminum body and blinkfeed. Also LG has a pretty good multi-tasking interface, it opens small windows of apps. I suggest you Check out YouTube for the G2.
Depending on how much you want to wait, you should definitely also consider the oppo find 7. This phone's a beauty in my eyes. Specs are great too.
Another interesting phone is the oneplus one with cm. Its going to be 5.5inch with the size of a 5 inch sony z1, qualcomm s800 and its supposed to cost less than 400$. Too bad that there arent any real pics yet and the release is going to be somewhere in Q2 of 2014. So, it can be 1 month or almost 3 :<
I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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I would suggest you go for the All New HTC One or the Xperia Z2 ...both of the devices r going to hit the shelves with in weeks !!
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I'm not buying a Sony, that's for sure. The htc one is another thing, but I'm afraid it will be quite expensive at launch, at least that's the way it is where I live. The way I see things is I have two options - get the G2 now or wait for the M8, hoping it won't be THAT expensive
Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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LG G2 - Very Good Choice
Nexus 5 - Awesome (but not the best camera)
S4 - Sucks
P6 - Friend has it, not bad, but battery life is terrible
HTC One - Awesome.
Also, look into the Xperia Z2, another good option for you.
Personally, i'd go with the new HTC one.
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Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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Check out the oppo find 7! Big, cheap, blows everything away
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Not an option. I'm getting a device from a local carrier, and they don't have oppo.
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Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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The only reason I'm not sure I want the S4 is that it's deemed even more fragile than the S3. It's slower chipset is also a bit of a disadvantage.
I can get the qualcomm version, so yes - vanilla OS is possible.
As for the G2 - it's awesome and I don't think storage will be that much of an issue. The HTC one is also an option, but the same as S4 - slower chiset and I hera the camera just sucks, but I have a DSLR and a mirrorless camera so I'm not going to expect much from a phone camera anyway. I'm using the iphone 5 now and while typing on it is a real pain, the size is really nice refresh fromthe huge slate the S3 was. I really miss the huge screen though.
The whole thing is quite complicated, as my wife has the RAZR I, but wants an Iphone, so I got one to test it out while waiting for my next android, and I actually like it a lot but the battery is basically on par with the S3, but the screen.... it's so small. It's superior when it comes to actally using it as a phone.
Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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Which one of these handsets is most durable when dropped? I think the g2 would have a bad time due to edge to edge design.
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iphone 5s for durability.
For me:
1-Note 3
2-Sony Z2
3-Iphone 5s
4-S4
This year I am leaving my S3 also and this is the list of devices I am targeting of buying from !!
I will get one of these bad boys --->
1. Note 3 (appealing in every aspect)
2. HTC ONE 2014 (has microSD card support)
3. Xperia Z2 (Sony really stepping up their game)
4. iPhone 6 (a really good phone for basic telephony)
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I recommend nexus & S4 from the point of view of a good battery and high specs and features, Also the nexus 5 has good feature which is wireless charging, The S4 has higher features than the nexus as usual samsung strikes with stunning technology.
-Mina
I am getting a new phone in two months. Got an S3 now. This is my top choices :
1. Note 3
2. Xperia Z2
3 HTC one (2014)
4. S5
Very difficult to choose
I'm between n5 s4 and g2 for now...
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Why does galaxy s4 sucks ? Although I do agree the design is same and somewhat boring especially when upgrading from s3 but its a practical design. For me, its best choice among the given choices, especially if you can get the qualcomm version, as its google play device so you have option to seamlessly put aosp roms. That negates the N5 advantage as it is..
For LG G2 and Nexus 5, you have limitation of fixed storage, do remember on 16GB devices you get only about 11GB of usable space. Also camera and battery on nexus 5 will be a downgrade for you coming from s3. HTC one although awesome design but has ultrapixel camera which didn't do very well and again a restricted memory.
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i know a few people with S4's, both versions. They both completely suck. In all honesty, the design isnt that bad, it looks very similar to the s3 but the feeling is alot better. However, Samsungs OS skin just down right fails. The ui is laggy, and please dont say theres no lag. i dont know how people dont notice this crap. The UI lags. Maybe the galaxy s4 google play edition, is a viable option.
There is literally nothing that the S4 has over its competitors. If you compare it to the HTC one (2013), then really, the One beats it hands down. You really dont need crap like the air wave.
SGH-m819n galaxy mega running the megafire v5 rom. Ive had two people literally sell their note3 after seeing how big and fast my phone is. 60 dollar truly unlimited unthrottled LTE data on tmobiles network though metro is a pretty nice perk, too.

Samsung To Discontinue Galaxy Alpha Line

Samsung set to discontinue Galaxy Alpha in favor of cheaper phones
The*Galaxy Alpha*might have been among the best phones Samsung ever produced — it's certainly*the prettiest*— if it weren't for a couple of stumbles: the battery didn't last long enough and its full flagship price forced it to compete against better-rounded rivals. Now, just a few brief months after its introduction, the Alpha is reportedly being supplanted by its successor Galaxy A5, which will take over as the leading Samsung handset for the mid-range market.
ET News*reports that the*Galaxy A5, which launched in China last month, is being brought over to South Korea as part of Samsung's effort to "take the bull by the horns" and*reorganize its slumping smartphone division. The 5-inch A5 is a continuation of the Alpha's design philosophy, emphasizing thinness and higher-quality metal construction, though it opts for a tamer spec sheet that will allow it to be priced at a more competitive 400,000 won (roughly $360). The report states that the A5 will be arriving in Samsung's home country in January or February, while the Galaxy Alpha will be phased out as production ramps down once the current inventory of materials is exhausted.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/29/7459743/samsung-galaxy-alpha-discontinuation-report
too sadly,what worry me is updates
Hope they maintain the updates
Just read the article myself and copied the link and went to XDA to make a post about it. You did it before me.
It pisses me off tho. They finally started making a decent specced phone with a quality feel, somewhat at least. I was hoping they'd continue and perfect it with future models. A5 sounds like a device I would never buy. Specs wise I'm reluctant I bought the Alpha to start with. Exynos is just never good. But the phone itself is decent and I have no battery quirks. That prolly has something to do with me being very introverted and I spend like 2 hours a month on calls.
To me, having a decent community for my phone on XDA is also a huge factor. The problem to me with Samsung will always be their Exynos processors. It makes developing for the device so much harder. Now for the Alpha another problem rises, it will be discontinued so it's limited how many people will ever get their hands on one now since dropped prices and supply will go hand in hand and eventually there will be no more phones. I haven't owned a Samsung phone for years simply because they chose their own noob processor and I returned because of build quality. This was a bad decision from Samsung and I feel like they don't really understand. Making more mid-range devices will not make more sales for them. It never has. I work as an IT administrator and we actually use mid-range Samsung devices. People with iPhones and such report "sluggish" behavior. And all I can say is.. Yeah, when you've tried a decent processor it's hard using a handset that uses some old cheap processor for power. It just wont feel as fluent. Even the common end user will notice that a phone runs sluggish.
It's my last Samsung device (for the time being) and I'm somewhat sad cause the S2 and the Galaxy Nexus was my first two decently specced Androids back in the day when they released. I'm sad that Samsung can't get their act together and decide what they want from their phones. Oh well, I'm just ranting.
All in all I hoped for Samsung to continue the fashion with a nicely specced hanset with below 5 inch screen. Guess all we'll get is the A5 or a bigger S5/6 or a Note. I'm just sick of the hype around big handsets. I have my tablet if I want a big screen for something. iPhone has like 2 models atm. - Why can't Samsung just like kick out a ****ty phone, a nice small phone, and then some beefed up S5/6 and a Note for the people that demands a phone on roids. I don't see why you need so many different handsets. All in all it doesn't matter if you choose a S4 Mini or a Core Plus or a Young or a Neo. They are all horrible old devices and they will not be up to standards. Focus on one of them, give em a touch-up.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now I'm really worried that this device wont even see half of the dev that happend on the Tab Pro that at least got a CM12 Lollipop release. Sigh.
Merry Christmas guys, and a happy new year.
- @samsung ,you done slipped up again. Make up your mind.
As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less. The Alpha is a beast and I've been very happy with it even coming from an S5. This bad boy has done me just fine, waiting for an S6 with the same quality as the Alpha, Samsung had better deliver or I'll be looking elsewhere to devote my loyalty to.
On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
Very sad news , i am very happy with my Alpha and this is Perfect phone.
Just bought it 20 days ago.
Why they want to discontinue
I just ordered the note 4 and it should be here tomorrow. With the new thinner design philosophy the bigger phones don't feel that bad when holding them. The alpha was a nice phone but the lagginess really got to me. I came from the Nexus 5, once you go smooth it's hard to go back to laggy. The note 4's display is just phenomenal to, can't wait to get it. I wish they would have waited a few days to announce this though, now the value on this phone will go down like mad.
I guess it's no surprise since this phone had little impact in the west. I don't think I will ever buy a carrier exclusive phone ever again.
omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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dara007_168 said:
omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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How RUMORS of samsung starting to stop manufacturing of galaxy Alpha impacts usability of the phone? It seems, that Alpha will have Lollipop update. :fingers-crossed:
I just don't get all the rage coming from you guys. At least in Latvia it seems to be more popular within youth than SGS5. And it is cheaper on contract (monthly fees) than SGS5 or Z3C.... Developers will do their work, just wait. Coming from Galaxy 3 (i5800) I can say that slow progress at the start leads to better community in future, still love that phone .... And yeah, at the end there were like 4-8 real developers (everything started with one guy who made several custom kernels and later ported CM ROMs to Galaxy 3, others came and gone over the years, but each left their impact on development for the device), some themers and few system optimisers, but progress they made TOGETHER for that phone in terms of speed and functionality was huge.
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As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less.
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zarras said:
On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
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My thoughts exactly. Android 5 and rare device should give me pretty good price, when I sell this on Q4/15.
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
goranzdr said:
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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Of course
goranzdr said:
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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yeah if the phone is rare its's very popular in the past and now it's discontinued or hard to buy. But this alpha is defferent i mean this phne is good at design and specs but price is abit high i think,no one really use it so it's not rare at all.Over all i love this phone but not Samsung.
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This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
Amaranth43 said:
This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you both a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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I didn't say anything about performance, my list is only about android version support and how easily the devices get custom roms. Read before posting
leripe said:
If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
Ranking:
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Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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For example Note II with Exynos was released in 2012 and get Lollipop update in 2015. Samsung complies with the terms of updates (Google says about 18 month of updates). If Alpha will recieve update in spring-2016 - this good, but I'm afraid that because of the discontinue that will not happen.
I do not want something fantastic, do not want the latest software among the first. I just want to support. I want a new smartphone does not forget

[Q] moving on from the ultra. going Moto X Style

anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec

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