Hey guys,
I've bought a new xperia z2 and Updated it to 4.4.4 but then I realized that root is only possible with a downgrade. So my question is:
Can I backup my data **without** root, downgrsde, root the phone, then go back up to 4.4.4 without a data loss? (Or at least a method with small data loss)
What 'data' do you want to backup? Apps like sms backup+ will backup you messages and call log. Sony has an app that can backup apps and data. Also titanium backup may be able to backup user apps.
Helium is one app that can backup all the data, sony backup sometime misses some app data, but will backup the apps themselves, not much useful in cases where the app is 50MB and then downloads 500MB of data after opening(like some games), helium takes care of that. just take the backup before downgrading, move it to your card or PC, downgrade, root, flash the latest recovery and ROM of your choice, then move the backup to your phone, (doesnt matter internal or external location, helium can select both for restore), and restore, et voila, you have your data. personally checked on games like real racing, poweramp player, messages(but to be sure better use SMS backup+ as suggested by our brother above), and even different browsers. but it does not work on system apps like youtube or chrome. no idea why.
Im just a bit nervous about rooting it as ive read online that Sony have put something in there Xperia models that you have to de-activate (something on there website) But if you do that then your phones warranty is completely void.
Id do it if I knew 100% how to do it and if it was 100% safe, Do you know of any guides for dummies for the 23.0.1.A.0.167 build number? Thanks.
Darakuli said:
Im just a bit nervous about rooting it as ive read online that Sony have put something in there Xperia models that you have to de-activate (something on there website) But if you do that then your phones warranty is completely void.
Id do it if I knew 100% how to do it and if it was 100% safe, Do you know of any guides for dummies for the 23.0.1.A.0.167 build number? Thanks.
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just backup your original firmware before root. if you root your phone you will void warranty but if you re-flash your backed up original firmware then warranty will be back
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Hello,
Would it be possible to make a complete backup of the phone. Something that is re-storable even if I would brick the phone. I guess using the SE update tool is not able to do this, and using the SE update after bricking the phone will restore the default ROM.
ppirate said:
Hello,
Would it be possible to make a complete backup of the phone. Something that is re-storable even if I would brick the phone. I guess using the SE update tool is not able to do this, and using the SE update after bricking the phone will restore the default ROM.
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The phone comes with a "backup and restore" app that'll back most of your personal data from the phone (text messages, bookmarks, system settings, etc)
If your phone is rooted you can use Titanium Backup to backup and restore apps.
I'm not really expressing myself clearly enough. My excuses.
What I would like is to make a complete backup. Not only data and applications, but also everything related to the kernel, for instance the modules, the init scripts, anything. So I want an exact copy.
An example. At 17 o'clock, I take a backup. Between then and 20 o'clock I replace some stuff one the phone. Things work out bad. No problem, I restore the backup I took at 17 o'clock and have a working phone for there rest of the evening.
Is talking something like nandroid from recovery on HTC devices
i think you want this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869708&page=4
My girlfriend and I both have 2011 Minipros. Hers has gotten the ICS update, mine hasn't yet gotten it, so I haven't really had a chance to play with it yet.
Her problem is that her phone keeps freezing up. I want to do a repair with SUS. I'm also thinking about copying her SD to the computer, formatting the chip and putting her stuff back on it.
My question is how to backup her apps and data so I can put her phone back together. My 2011 minipro didn't come with the Backup and Restore app that my x10 minipro had, so I downloaded it from Sony. Will this same app work with ICS? Is this the best way to do it? Does someone have a link to this app? It's not on the Android Market.
I'll only have the phone for a few hours this afternoon, so I don't want to get buried too far into it or screw it up.
Thanks!
dave
I think that Titanium Backup will do the job. Even without root, you should be able to backup your apps. Then, you'll have to reinstalla Titanium Backup on the phone after repairing it, and restore your apps
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I'm actualy not sure about using TB without root... maybe you should wait for someone else's opinion :/
download the .ftf and flash it with flashtool
Feanor88 said:
I think that Titanium Backup will do the job. Even without root, you should be able to backup your apps. Then, you'll have to reinstalla Titanium Backup on the phone after repairing it, and restore your apps
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I'm actualy not sure about using TB without root... maybe you should wait for someone else's opinion :/
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Titanium Backup doesn't work without root.
Contacts can be backed up via Contacts app.
The Backup and Restore app was partly on 2010 phones, then 2011 phones didn't get it at all and 2012 phones received it with ICS again.
To backup contacts to SD, use the contacts app directly. To backup SMSs, you can use SMS Backup&Restore. If you want to backup calendars, just synchronize them with google until you have repaired the phone. To backup apps and their settings, search the market for "backup" and you'll find something useful.
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Someguyfromhell, we wrote together. Thank you for clarifying about Titanium Backup!
Sony's Backup and Restore app doesn't appear to work on ICS. The app will install and make a backup, but I haven't had any luck getting it to restore the backup. Looks like I've lost her sms and mms and she'll have to restore her apps manually. Rats.
dave
Hi,
My first post to the forum, long time lurker but now I actually have a question or two.
I have a samsung galaxy s3 (blue, 16GB), it is totally stock, has the XELLA update as well.
Whilst reading the thread regarding dying S3's, it got me thinking about my own S3 and what I'd do if it died.
Of course, I have Kies and MyPhoneExplorer, I use both to do the same task that the old Nokia PC Suite used to do (I've come from Nokia S60 phones).
My concern is, despite backing up via Kies, I read in the above thread, that Kies shouldn't be used for backup as it doesn't do a 'proper' backup.
(I've tested Kies backups myself and didn't spot a problem, but I've never tried to factory reset my phone and then restore everything from Kies)
Given that I do not want to install custom ROMs or root my phone in any way, is Kies suitable for backups or should I be using something more comprehensive?
If I should use something else - what should I use?
Ideally I want software that sits on the PC itself and backs up to my local drive, I don't really want something that sits on the phone unless it's really good.
Ideally, all I want is some useful software that allows me to backup my phone content, SMS/MMS/Contacts/Apps/App Settings/Phone Settings, maybe music and ringtones too. Most other parts (such as calendars/notes) are sync'd from a local Outlook install so these get overwritten upon sync anyway.
Does anyone have any ideas?
A78
Root your phone, install custom recovery and make a nandroid backup. Nothing beats that.
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Oomahey said:
Root your phone, install custom recovery and make a nandroid backup. Nothing beats that.
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Whilst I'm grateful for the suggestion, I don't want to root my phone. Especially as it works perfectly well as-is. I'm happy to keep it as stock, however if you're telling me that the only way to get good, reliable backups of everything with my phone is to root it, then that doesn't bode well.
Why include software with a phone that suggests it can backup the phone, when in-fact it cannot.
i came from Nokia e72 with symbian s60 too. Kies backup is not up to my expectations. And myphoneexplorer is fiddly with its backup function. I was reluctant before rooting my phone, but I'm happy that I did it with cf auto root, it allows me to use titanium backup which is very good.
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Kies questions try a a Kies or Samsung forum is what i would do .
No root then XDA does not exist .
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I wouldn't worry about it. If you've been lucky enough to get a kies backup, that'll do. I never got that far (and my s3 died)
I can't really root either Would love to. Rooted my desire the second it wasn't my primary phone. Barclays banking and sky go are two apps which don't like rooted phones and I squarely blame them, app-security shouldn't be compromised by root access. Nevermind, so I'm in your shoes too...
While ensuring my wifes (already swapped S3) doesn't lose anymore data if it goes again (hurry up fix).. it got me thinking about what she'd really loose and it's not that much...
Apps (can be re-downloaded). Your kies backup should have got the appdata (I can't be sure of this). Edit: I have successfully backed up many apps data settings without kies by using an 'adb' backup. You just need the Android sdk. Not all apps can be backed up this way (it also allows you to violate settings in their sqlite dbs), better than nothing though.
SMS (can be backed up using many Play Store apps)
Contacts/Chrome bookmarks are all stored by google
Kies can be used to ensure your Internal Memory doesn't contain any photos/music/movies/downloads that you want to keep (copy to sd)
Alot of apps which stored data on the internal storage were manually copied/pasted to an sdcard folder for safe-keeping.
and then there's probably not a whole lot else that you can't configure via system/in-app settings to avoid using internal storage and opt for sdcard/online instead.
I haven't got my phone back yet so I don't know what i've yet lost... don't want to think about it, at least wifeys happy that if hers goes (again) she wont loose much of value.
Edit2: A helpful XDA member detailed the adb (whole system) backup process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
What I was looking for, was a single application or tool that would backup the entire phone, absolutely everything ideally.
But I suspect I won't be able to do that without rooting the phone, and even then - the backup application itself would probably need to be ON the phone and couldn't necessarily backup to the computer itself (unless I copied the backup from the SD memory to hard disk).
I know the old nokia software did back up pretty much everything and I'm sure Kies backs up pretty much everything, but if my phone were to die or be lost somehow, I want the ability to restore the backup entirely and be back to where I was (or as close as possible), so I don't need to set up apps again or their settings or set the phone settings back up etc.
Is all of that asking too much? (I use an equivalent of Ghost on my PC to back it up, that covers literally everything, just wondering if I can do a similar task with my phone)
arkane78 said:
Is all of that asking too much? (I use an equivalent of Ghost on my PC to back it up, that covers literally everything, just wondering if I can do a similar task with my phone)
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+1. It does seem like a glaring omission. I've never gotten Kies backup to complete successfully.
What do u want to backup?
Sync contacts with google. Save ur DCIM photos in a new folder named I9300 and music and other stuff from sdcards
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+1. It does seem like a glaring omission. I've never gotten Kies backup to complete successfully.
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What I'm now doing is a Kies backup and an ADB backup as documented in a link earlier in this thread.
The Kies backups come in at around 270-290MB each, but the ADB backups come in at around 1GB each, so am wondering if perhaps doing an ADB backup once a month would be a better idea.
At least that way, I'm pretty much covered in the event of device failure or theft
Appreciate you confirming your backup approach. As with any new backup method, of course, it pays to test your restore strategy before you really need it
Good luck and if you do manage to do a test restore, let us know how it goes.
PS: I hadn't mentioned it because it conflicts with your (imo very reasonable) goals, but, the only backup I've ever fully trusted is the nandroid backup(s) I have of my rooted desire That's as close to a 'ghost' image as possible.
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What I'm now doing is a Kies backup and an ADB backup as documented in a link earlier in this thread.
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Appreciate you confirming your backup approach. As with any new backup method, of course, it pays to test your restore strategy before you really need it
Good luck and if you do manage to do a test restore, let us know how it goes.
PS: I hadn't mentioned it because it conflicts with your (imo very reasonable) goals, but, the only backup I've ever fully trusted is the nandroid backup(s) I have of my rooted desire That's as close to a 'ghost' image as possible.
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So a nandroid backup would literally clone everything as some kind of dump file?
I've told the ADB backup to cover shared storage as well as storing all APKs (excluding system ones), but what strikes me as odd is that my internal memory has used around 1GB and SD memory is around the 600MB mark, yet the backup is only 1GB.
I'm hoping between a monthly of ADB and a weekly Kies, I'll be able to get 90% of my phone back in operation if anything were to happen to it.
It's the same kind of strategy I use on my PCs here at home, except with them I know I can literally take a 'copy' of the entire system, including data.
I know the Kies restore works, but I don't know if the ADB does, I guess I should try it at some stage. Maybe when I do my next Kies backup
Question
I want to know if I back up all my data with kies from s3 (4.1.2) after that i update the phone can i restore the saved data with kies?
So i want to update the phone via odin so i have to do a factory reset and all the wipe,that would delet all my stuff so i saved the data i need,after update can i restore to the phone if the data i saved was from s3 (4.1.2) and the restoring woud go to s3 with 4.3 jellybean?
Thx
Having always rooted my phones I never had an issue backing up apps and data via Titanium backup but am now looking for a solution to back up apps and their data on my non-rooted Z2.
Having just flashed the latest Z2 firmware via Flashtool which wipes the phone, I've restored backups I had made with Sonys Back Up and Restore app only to find it didn't backup all it said it did, so had a number of apps and data missing.
Can anyone recommend a solution to this
kersey said:
Having always rooted my phones I never had an issue backing up apps and data via Titanium backup but am now looking for a solution to back up apps and their data on my non-rooted Z2.
Having just flashed the latest Z2 firmware via Flashtool which wipes the phone, I've restored backups I had made with Sonys Back Up and Restore app only to find it didn't backup all it said it did, so had a number of apps and data missing.
Can anyone recommend a solution to this
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I was in the same boat as yourself, Ive found a good one is HELIUM, plus helium will state what apps don't have a backup option coded into them so unlike sonys own app u wont be annoyed when some apps do/don't backup Also Helium allows cloud backups as well as internal and external sd card backups
Im currently using helium for apps and Mybackup pro for my text message backups as I found heliums message backups were weirdly in the opposite date order to normal use( instead of latest being at bottom of list it was at top)
Thanks mate, will give Helium a try
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I was in the same boat as yourself, Ive found a good one is HELIUM, plus helium will state what apps don't have a backup option coded into them so unlike sonys own app u wont be annoyed when some apps do/don't backup Also Helium allows cloud backups as well as internal and external sd card backups
Im currently using helium for apps and Mybackup pro for my text message backups as I found heliums message backups were weirdly in the opposite date order to normal use( instead of latest being at bottom of list it was at top)
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Just confiming, does Hellium doesnt back up the app data like TB?
I know ive read somewhere there is an app by chainfire for app and data backup for non rooted but at first glance it seem a bit long winded so never bothered with it.
I used easy backup which restored my apps, sms, mms, call log etc all no probs but yeah problem was no data backed up so had to set them all up like email, settings etc all over again.
I understand Unlocking and Rooting an Xperia is a tough task. But the stock ROM is good enough.
A good article here. It helped me and it may help you too buddy.
rexboy said:
Just confiming, does Hellium doesnt back up the app data like TB?
I know ive read somewhere there is an app by chainfire for app and data backup for non rooted but at first glance it seem a bit long winded so never bothered with it.
I used easy backup which restored my apps, sms, mms, call log etc all no probs but yeah problem was no data backed up so had to set them all up like email, settings etc all over again.
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well your not gonna get the same level of backup due to lack of root, but for me it saved things like game progression(i.e angry birds) but didn't save things like custom widget sets in HD widgets app. But not the end of the world.
Ive started looking at my backups a bit more in detail and asking do I really need a backup of some apps, as some are just install-login to app and use no custom data to speak of to really backup. Or other apps like XDA app and game progression which have custom settings and progression Id like to save.
SwiftSmoke said:
I was in the same boat as yourself, Ive found a good one is HELIUM, plus helium will state what apps don't have a backup option coded into them so unlike sonys own app u wont be annoyed when some apps do/don't backup Also Helium allows cloud backups as well as internal and external sd card backups
Im currently using helium for apps and Mybackup pro for my text message backups as I found heliums message backups were weirdly in the opposite date order to normal use( instead of latest being at bottom of list it was at top)
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bro, Last time I used Helium is when it was called Carbon, I tried it with Xperia S and it didn't worked at all, after that I saw this in it's description in Play Store
Note: Some Sony devices have issues with Helium. This includes the Xperia S and Xperia Z. Sony has *disabled* backup on these devices completely.
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I lost hope after that, so does it work now on Z2 ?
I'm still not in a hurry to have Z2 as there's still no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, and I will not unlock the bootloader without backing up the TA partition first ( which requires root )... so I've been looking for a way to copy some of my app's data from my old phone to Z2, I used to use Titanium Backup always but you know, no root = no TB...
so can you confirm please that you used Helium to backup AND restore app's data to the Z2 ? or you're just guessing from a non-xperia experience ?
Xajel said:
bro, Last time I used Helium is when it was called Carbon, I tried it with Xperia S and it didn't worked at all, after that I saw this in it's description in Play Store
I lost hope after that, so does it work now on Z2 ?
I'm still not in a hurry to have Z2 as there's still no way to root without unlocking the bootloader, and I will not unlock the bootloader without backing up the TA partition first ( which requires root )... so I've been looking for a way to copy some of my app's data from my old phone to Z2, I used to use Titanium Backup always but you know, no root = no TB...
so can you confirm please that you used Helium to backup AND restore app's data to the Z2 ? or you're just guessing from a non-xperia experience ?
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I used helium to backup my apps on my s3 then install them on my z2, ive also backedup up my current apps on my z2 since, but like ive already said helium cant backup certain apps as the app developer hasn't allowed backup function. Helium did the job for me for my game progression and a few apps where I wanted current setup saved.
Hello everyone, first of all I should point out that I am not only a newbie but also not very tech savvy!...
So, I have an Xperia Z2! (D6503) and I had it for 2 years but until a week ago, I had no problems at all with it, I was very happy with it.
But then, my battery started to drain extremely fast, in fact, with very very low usage, it would drain entirely within 5-8 hours.
So a friend recommended that I root my device so I can get rid of bloatware and other apps that might be doing the damage.
So doing some little research, I heard of Kingroot which I downloaded from this very website.
And everything was great, I used kingroot to stop over 258 autostart apps that I had!!! (and I had no idea they were doing that).
Then afterwards, from the same video tutorial that I used to install the kingroot app, it recommended that I install TITANIUM BACKUP!
Which I proceeded to install. And then I followed the video instructions, USB debugging was already turned on from installing Kingroot, so I went to backup/restore tab...
then as recommended in the video, I chose "Backup all user apps + system data". After the backup process, which took about 20-25 minutes...
and then when it was done, mostly everything was gone....
my wall paper was gone...everything was in dark, some of the applications were gone...all of my contacts, videos, photos, etc...mostly everything was gone...
When I opened some of the few apps that remained, it asked me to install it (the app)...
So I immediately panicked ....I went back to the app and chose the "restore option" and the first time I chose the "Restore missing apps plus all system data"
it then asked me to install one by one...every app and system data...But it still did not work...
So after it took me over 3 hours of doing that...I did all the other options (restore missing apps with data, restore all apps with data, and restore all system data) one by one...(doing app by app...system data by system data) and I should also mention that while doing this "installations" lots and lots of apps and system data failed to install...WHY? I have no idea obviously...apps and system data such as : WFD Service, Warrantytime Service, VPN Dialogs, USB Connectivity, Overheat Control, etc...etc...etc... over 100 of these things failed to install (which I have no idea what they are but if someone feels it would help if I mentioned them all...I will list them all)
I then proceeded to try the restore option using the Sony PC companion software...but after it did the "restore" and it asked me to restart the phone...
Everything was the same....all the same missing apps, video, etc...
So I spent all day doing this...and still I can't figure out how to recover my stuff ...Please if someone knows what can I do to fix it...please let me know... I can't afford to buy another phone...but most importantly...I want my stuff back like photos etc... :'/
Thank you and I am sorry for making this so long....
OK, a few steps.
First, can you connect your phone to your pc in data mode to browse your sd-card? To recover your photos. Normally, they are located in a subfolder of DCIM on intern SD-card. (Also you may consider to back up your photos in the future or use a cloud service like Google Foto or Mega to backup them. Phones get lost or sometimes stolen too...)
Second thing is just a bit of information: the free version of titanium backup always askes you for every app you restore, this is normal. You have to pay 5$ or so to get the pro app which doesn't ask for every app.
When you succeed in restoring / backing up your photos and stuff (the backups from titanium-backup!!) you may just want to install a new rom / ftf firmware.
This can easily wipe your complete phone, so be sure to have everything backed up to your pc/cloud.
Search in the forum for the newest stock ftf (.264) and install it via flash tool. You will then have a stock Z2 with actual firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2759934
There are also pre-rooted stock firmwares available.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/ftf-cutomized-23-1-0-726-cda-1281-9809-t3082166
If you want to install a custom rom, you definitely want to try stock -based Roms first, so you don't have to play with your bootloader /DRM-keys. Some examples are SLiM-Rom, eXistenz Roms, Purex, Google-Style, Moonwalker Epidemic, Mr. SL rom ... (Be aware that slim-rom, contrary to SLiM-rom, is NOT stuck-based, it will soft brick your phone if you install it with bootloader locked.)
The only thing you then want to restore via titanium backup is probably your SMS and phone call history, they are in a seperate color like green.
For future use, there are apps like "sms backup and restore" which are less problematic than titanium backup in my opinion.
Titanium has some goodies like the possibility to create update.zip files and encryption of backups, but this is more like a pro feature, you sound like you don't really need titanium backup.