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Ok, I wouldn't call myself a fanboy but I'm pretty in to the Samsung ecosystem. Note 2, 3, 4. Original Galaxy Gear, Tv's and now the Gear S. Coming from the O.G. Galaxy gear, I thought the Gear S was a worthy upgrade. Water resistance, bigger and brighter screen. I have been very patient with Samsung and them rolling out apps to there watches. The Galaxy Gear never really got the apps I wanted unless I hacked it and cracked it with android apps made for phones. That kind of held me down for a bit. Then it just got too cumbersome for a watch. Especially with Nova Launcher and the battery drain was horrible because it just wasn't optimized to run like a phone. Here comes the Gear S, to solve all our problems. It just seems like the same old crap to me. Don't get me wrong, I really like the watch. For notifications and an occasional news feed it works awesome. Even the pedometer and the fitness functions seem to work better. But with the looming release of the Apple Watch I have to ask. Where the hell are the apps?!! I'm already hearing about all the different apps and developers working on the Apple Watch apps. I have a feeling its going to be another lopsided battle like it used to be with Android and Apple in the appstore a few years back. But why?! Samsung has had, damn near, a 2 year head-start in this category. You mean to tell me after releasing 5-6 Smart watches that they still cant conjure up any app support? I see the same old half baked apps in the app store everyday. No popular apps like facebook, youtube, instagram (there is a fake one that might be ok). It just seems as though samsung doesn't follow all the way through.
I know they are working on the next big thing, but I feel like we have all been left in the dark by buying another Samsung experiment. Its not fun being the guinea pig anymore.
Have a look down the back of the sofa... you'll be amazed what you can find there.
It's a watch, with the addition of gear notification extender installed I'm struggling to think of anything more I need/want it to do. My note 4 is superior in every way so the watch is just for a glance or a response on the fly.
Happy to hear what you're missing though?
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.....oh I would like a voip app though.
I still think it's better than the Apple Watch because you don't have to have your phone with you. All those stupid apps mean nothing when you're working with a 2 inch screen.
Apps
Hi,
I agree with OP, I would like more apps. In fact, I already gave up checking for new ones.
If I receive a notification that a friend posted something on facebook, I want to see what they posted. If they uploaded a picture, I want to see that too.
I want to respond to what's app messages and not just receive them!
I do love the smartthings app that let's me turn on/off lights from my wrist, that is awesome !
Google is working on iOS compatibility for android wear devices, I so wished the Gear S could be fully compatible with my work iPhone6 and my Note 3... Sort of have the Gear become the hub manager for all my devices...
Gear Notification app
In the Google Playstore lets u reply with many apps, whatsapp is one.
I agree that they need more apps, but there are some good ones out there that you can get:
Xenozu Player for Youtube, works well. click on pic to play, and text for info
GearTweet for Twitter, much improved lately
GearGram for Instagram and plays video as well as shows pics
Basic Video Player, load videos to your Gear through PC to play on app
Wearable Widgets, I can use it to control my lights at home that on on my WeMo switches, using WeMo widgets; I can see my outside surveillance cameras using the IP Cam Viewer Basic widget
IPCameraViewer, I can see my indoor home surveillance camera feed through Gear S app
OperaMini for web browsing
Milk music for streaming to my bluetooth headset at the gym, without having to carry my phone.
S Health, I have used very well to track and motivate myself to move and exercise more. I lost 85 lbs. last year and it gets some credit. Program finally much better than it was.
I too hope they push for more, but in the end it will be up the the other companies and developers and they will probably go to Apple due to shear volume of sales alone.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Mark
I have the same extra apps as you. I have wemo switches and a foscam camera outside. The ip camera app is great because it doesn't need to be paired to a phone
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pacosal.gear.notificationsgears
For responding to whatever the F you want!
Another Great APP! GEARAM MUSIC ID.
Just like Shazam and has gotten over 10 songs in a row correct from my phone playlist.
I agree with the original post. The watch falls short of its potential. I generally use my phone for most types of communication. There are times, like in my car, when grabbing a phone is impractical. This is particularly true if my wife calls and reminds me of something I need to do in the future. With my Gear 1 I could double press and add a calendar reminder, no problem. I could controll Pandora which was great with a headset in my Miata with the top down. Cousin Sammy is trying to make Tizen into their version of i-something and they are losing sight of the consumer. Stop giving me watch faces and give me some interaction with my phone apps. That would fulfil my interpretation of their promise when I bought it as a companion device. Sammy watch should work well with a Sammy phone.
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I agree with the original post. The watch falls short of its potential. I generally use my phone for most types of communication. There are times, like in my car, when grabbing a phone is impractical. This is particularly true if my wife calls and reminds me of something I need to do in the future. With my Gear 1 I could double press and add a calendar reminder, no problem. I could controll Pandora which was great with a headset in my Miata with the top down. Cousin Sammy is trying to make Tizen into their version of i-something and they are losing sight of the consumer. Stop giving me watch faces and give me some interaction with my phone apps. That would fulfil my interpretation of their promise when I bought it as a companion device. Sammy watch should work well with a Sammy phone.
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This is off topic, but how did you control Pandora on your Gear 1?
On the stock setup, I turned on Pandora via my phone and put it away. The music control on the watch would control volume and I could skip songs. Couldn't change favorites but it worked OK otherwise.
Great to know. I have been thinking about selling my Zenwatch for the Gear S
Klokker for the Samsung Gear S
Hi everyone,
I'm very excited to announce my Klokker app for the Gear S in the Samsung Apps Store.
The Gear S is an impressive hardware masterpiece that the only thing it needs are fancy apps.
Klokker is an information safe repository especially designed for Samsung Gear S smartwatches.
You can store in your Gear S valuable information sometimes difficult to remember like your car insurance number, your passport number, your VISA card number or your bank account number. This information is protected under a password or passcode to avoid non-authorized access.
I really like my Gear S and I'm working very hard on several ideas to bring new apps to this smartwatch. I'm not only working hard, I'm working with illusion. I'm posting this announcement here because I know I will receive feedback about my work. I want to make the Gear S something really useful in our lives, something that can help us or solve some of our daily life problems.
I'm focused primarily on standalone applications. Companion apps are cool, but I wanna make the Gear S as much independent as I can. In fact, the Gear S is the most independent smartwatch of all. So I'm not following a wrong approach right now.
I will populate my Facebook page, my blog in Tumblr and my Youtube channel with more information in the next days. If you would like follow me on Twitter to keep in touch with all my projects.
Take a look at my support site at ayalawilson.com or look for Klokker in the Samsung Apps store.
Your feedback will be really valuable for me.
Thank you very much in advanced and I hope you like my app!
JMAW
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Blog: http://jmawapps.tumblr.com
Support page: http://www.ayalawilson.com/klokker.html
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jmaw2015 said:
Hi everyone,
I'm very excited to announce my Klokker app for the Gear S in the Samsung Apps Store.
The Gear S is an impressive hardware masterpiece that the only thing it needs are fancy apps.
Klokker is an information safe repository especially designed for Samsung Gear S smartwatches.
You can store in your Gear S valuable information sometimes difficult to remember like your car insurance number, your passport number, your VISA card number or your bank account number. This information is protected under a password or passcode to avoid non-authorized access.
I really like my Gear S and I'm working very hard on several ideas to bring new apps to this smartwatch. I'm not only working hard, I'm working with illusion. I'm posting this announcement here because I know I will receive feedback about my work. I want to make the Gear S something really useful in our lives, something that can help us or solve some of our daily life problems.
I'm focused primarily on standalone applications. Companion apps are cool, but I wanna make the Gear S as much independent as I can. In fact, the Gear S is the most independent smartwatch of all. So I'm not following a wrong approach right now.
I will populate my Facebook page, my blog in Tumblr and my Youtube channel with more information in the next days. If you would like follow me on Twitter to keep in touch with all my projects.
Take a look at my support site at ayalawilson.com or directly look for Klokker in the Samsung Apps store.
Your feedback will be really valuable for me.
Thank you very much in advanced and I hope you like my app!
JMAW
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wER6BtIMDyY
Blog: http://jmawapps.tumblr.com
Support page: http://www.ayalawilson.com/klokker.html
Facebook page: JMAWapps
TwitterJMAWapps
Email:[email protected]
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Don't know that I need such an app. But I love your standalone way of thinking. I see no reason why I should need a companion app.
Hope you come up with some cool apps. Good luck.
Reason why we need a companion app
Medic97 said:
Don't know that I need such an app. But I love your standalone way of thinking. I see no reason why I should need a companion app.
Hope you come up with some cool apps. Good luck.
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The main reason why we need a companion app is that the smartwatch is a very limited computing platform so far: reduced screen, no keyboard (the Gear S is a big exception to the rule with the Fleksy keyboard and its 2" screen), tiny speakers, few memory and limited storage in general.
In a companion mode, the main app processes information on the smartphone using its power and connectivity capabilities (again the Gear S is another exception to the rule with BlueTooth, 3G, Wi-Fi and USB). The smartwatch app only displays information or performs some interaction with the user.
The Companion design is very useful for many apps where the smartwatch lacks of the power or interaction needed. But it drains battery at the same time to the watch and to the phone. The Wi-Fi connection is better in saving power especially in idle mode. You are lucky again if you have a Gear S and you can synchronize your smartwatch via Wi-Fi!
Because, the Gear S exhibits a tremendous autonomy as a computer platform, I choose it for my future standalone apps!
jmaw2015 said:
I really like my Gear S and I'm working very hard on several ideas to bring new apps to this smartwatch. I'm not only working hard, I'm working with illusion. I'm posting this announcement here because I know I will receive feedback about my work. I want to make the Gear S something really useful in our lives, something that can help us or solve some of our daily life problems.
I'm focused primarily on standalone applications. Companion apps are cool, but I wanna make the Gear S as much independent as I can. In fact, the Gear S is the most independent smartwatch of all. So I'm not following a wrong approach right now.
JMAW
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wER6BtIMDyY
Blog: http://jmawapps.tumblr.com
Support page: http://www.ayalawilson.com/klokker.html
Facebook page: JMAWapps
Twitter:@JMAWapps
Email:[email protected]
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Agree with needing stand-alone apps. Can you create an audiobook app with bookmarking and 15 second forward/backward skip functionality? I go running with my Gear S and gave up on trying to listen to audiobook because I keep losing my place in the books
I also agree with OP? The app store is a big let-down.
Hi xendula,
Create that app is not a big problem for me. But before starting a new app project, I would like to ask if there is no any other music or audiobook player on the Samsung Gear Apps with bookmarking and 15 forward/backward skip functionality.
The idea is not bad. Something simple, useful, easy to use.
Which app do you use right now to play your audiobooks?
Do you copy your audiobooks in a particular folder or just in the music folder?
Which average size your audiobooks are?
Are your audiobooks in mp3 format?
JMAW
jmaw2015 said:
The idea is not bad. Something simple, useful, easy to use.
Which app do you use right now to play your audiobooks?
Do you copy your audiobooks in a particular folder or just in the music folder?
Which average size your audiobooks are?
Are your audiobooks in mp3 format?
JMAW
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There is not one audiobook app in the app store, and other Gear S owners have asked for the same type of app, with the addition of sleep timer functionality within the app.
My books are all MP3 (between 7-14 files per book) that I copy into the music folder. Since each file is around 50 mins long, bookmarking and skipping back and forth is imperative. The app would need to know to play back files within a subdirectory as one book.
I tried to use the regular music app, but gave up, because I kept losing my place in the books
Finally a good standalone application to run, unfortunately a fee but it seems better than s-health and nike running
Now free version...
No heartrate? Would be nice if crappy optical heart rate sensor was supported. Would be much nicer if bluetooth heart rate belts were supported! I wonder if its even possible for developers to support heart rate belts, because none of the existings apps support it yet...
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Finally a good standalone application to run, unfortunately a fee but it seems better than s-health and nike running
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Hi, finally... Where Can I download It. Most beautiful news of the week. Thanks!
hi, I downloaded from Samsung apps gear through gear manager ... it is located in the health and fitness
I would be happy to pay for this as long as some functions are added.
For Android wear there is a "killer app" called Ghost Racer that turns the Sony Smartwatch 3 into a runners favorite.
If this is going to be a "killer app" for runners on the Tizen platform and the Samsung Gear S (1 and 2) especially, some essential things are missing.
First of all - the running results must be able to be uploaded/exported to a popular running service such as runkeeper, strava etc.
More measurements needs to be added such as heart rate (internal or external bluetooth heart rate sensors), cadence and more.
Also - you need to be able to personalize your own running screen for what information you want to see (preferably several screens)
All these things work with Ghost Racer on Android Wear (on Sony Smartwatch 3)
If some of these things are added, this could be a really nice app that I would be glad to pay for it.
Is there an official website for the app or how can we get in contact with the developer?
Ooops - posted this first in the wrong Thread!
I've purchased the Paid App and an trying to figure out if the saved recorded files can be exported. Is anyone here rooted that could tell me whether there are any unique files that are saved to a Data folder? (No data is saved to the internal user storage folders)
While a standalone app that uses the watch's GPS is useful, this is really more of a Beta with very limited functionality. All it can really tell you is time, distance and pace. (And I don't yet know how accurate the watch GPS is going to be on distance). Plus the app turns the screen off immediate on the start of a recording, and only turns back on to displace pace etc. every mile - so pace data is not going to be too helpful. I can see my track on a (Google) map screen, but the track did not appear on my Google map history so there’s no export potential there.
A watch based app that uses the onboard GPS and records time, distance, pace (with configurable updates and audible output), and heart rate and that has exportable data in tcx or txt format is still needed.
But it seems that Nike+ running will work stand alone... so may meet most needs...
hello.
just got my watch a few days ago and am curious to those who decided to switch out the rom to have full android on their watch.
now we all know samsung had to do a lot to make this watch a companion with the phone so the software on it plus the gear manager on the phone give it the ability to be controlled properly. when you install real android on it you lose this functionality ... sure there are a few apps out there that can do that (forward notifications) but mostly they suck.
i am not a fan of actually using my watch as a real phone because of its battery capacity.
please share your reason ....
I switched to have full android on the watch so I could use the Gear S as a daily driver.
I'm using it to replace my Omate Truesmart that I've been using as my standalone phone for the last 6 months.
cylent said:
hello.
just got my watch a few days ago and am curious to those who decided to switch out the rom to have full android on their watch.
now we all know samsung had to do a lot to make this watch a companion with the phone so the software on it plus the gear manager on the phone give it the ability to be controlled properly. when you install real android on it you lose this functionality ... sure there are a few apps out there that can do that (forward notifications) but mostly they suck.
i am not a fan of actually using my watch as a real phone because of its battery capacity.
please share your reason ....
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I switched from the mobile operating system ties into Android because I personally have more functionality with Android, and not only does that beautiful display play flappy bird flawlessly, there's a lot of other random ass I can cram on to the tiny screen. You think all the screen so small I'm not going to be able to type take it off your wrist use both hands it's not that big of a deal. Not only that if you use SwiftKey it's an amazing keyboard for such a small device Haven you at T maps to then changed where your fingers maybe a little bit bigger for some parts of the screen or too small. Google has a few really nice apps that are basically made to run on anything my tracks for instance it's one of the best app I've ever used for tracking my speed and distance as well as calories burned. It's not an app but it's my favorite and the fact that I can use it on such a small display is very convenient. I'll finish this article up in a bit alright about 10 more reason why I prefer it, I'm just riding my bike right now and using Google Voice on my gear s to type this
mmm.... and what about cardio and steps counter? Can you use them with S-health in your phone even with Android installed ?
Hi everyone!
Developer of Energy Bar here. I recently got the Amazfit Pace, and am pretty excited to make some cool Apps for the watch.
As of now, two ideas:
Access phone contacts and dial them directly from the watch (hear & talk via the bluetooth earphones connected to the phone.)
A new notification system, which will let you read individual messages (Apps like WhatsApp have some of the notifications bundled.) And also ability to reply from watch (extremely small keyboard though.)
I would like to hear your ideas, please suggest something that may benefit all the watch users in general. I wouldn't be able to fulfil any custom App request as of now.
Your ideas may go as crazy as you would like, I will let you know the extend to which it would be technically feasible. The only thing I want to re-emphasize is that, the idea needs to be something that will benefit all the watch users in general.
Also, I do plan to make majority of Apps' feature free to the community, but to be able to afford enough time to make a lot of Apps which leverages full potential of the watch - I would need support through in-app purchases. I would like to know if you would be interested in subscribing to some of the essential Apps or a pack of Apps?
Hello. I have a new watches. I am missing several functions. Posibility to display level of phone battery on watchface, and indication about unread notification(s). I would also aperciate posibility to bring sport activity to background and paralel usage of other applications. However I am afraid that these functions will be dependent on system services.
jan.stanicek said:
Hello. I have a new watches. I am missing several functions. Posibility to display level of phone battery on watchface, and indication about unread notification(s). I would also aperciate posibility to bring sport activity to background and paralel usage of other applications. However I am afraid that these functions will be dependent on system services.
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Displaying battery level of phone and number of unread notifications sounds good!
But I wonder what's the specific use case of running some other App on the watch while sport activity is running? Could you please elaborate?
jan.stanicek said:
Hello. I have a new watches. I am missing several functions. Posibility to display level of phone battery on watchface, and indication about unread notification(s). I would also aperciate posibility to bring sport activity to background and paralel usage of other applications. However I am afraid that these functions will be dependent on system services.
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Displaying battery level of phone and number of unread notifications sounds good!
But I wonder what would be a use case for running some App while the sports activity is on the screen of the watch. Could you please elaborate your specific use case?
I would like to record just my touristic trips. I would like to use the watches normally, during the trip - checking weather for example.... I have used Sony SmartWatch 2 for 3 years - I will have some other ideas for sure later when I will have more experiences with Amazfit...
GoPro control app, ios/android music control app, phone book and dial app with headphones, voice recorder - there is mic built in the watch... and continuum transfunctioner Zoltan!
Being able to reply to Text/Gmail messages is #1 for me. Second - remote control of phone's music app.
Thank you for starting this project, I really appreciate your efforts. This watch has one of the best looking design and a decent hardware. I think file manager and ablity to install apk from the watch and an app to push files from phone to the watch would be beneficial.
omarfx said:
Thank you for starting this project, I really appreciate your efforts. This watch has one of the best looking design and a decent hardware. I think file manager and ablity to install apk from the watch and an app to push files from phone to the watch would be beneficial.
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You can use this file manager http://www.apkmonk.com/app/com.alphainventor.filemanager/
jan.stanicek said:
You can use this file manager http://www.apkmonk.com/app/com.alphainventor.filemanager/
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Thank you that's working for me. now need to have the ablity to enable unknown sources apk installation and find way to send files to the watch.
jan.stanicek said:
I would like to record just my touristic trips. I would like to use the watches normally, during the trip - checking weather for example.... I have used Sony SmartWatch 2 for 3 years - I will have some other ideas for sure later when I will have more experiences with Amazfit...
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In earlier fw version was even worse. During sport activity, literally you couldn't see time on the, well, watch! Then they added it on the top, as well as battery status. Both too small but at least.
I agree with you, watch is missing multitasking. Going to home screen, using it regularly and track activity in the background. However, I doubt that op can do that without source of the fw.
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jan.stanicek said:
I would like to record just my touristic trips. I would like to use the watches normally, during the trip - checking weather for example.... I have used Sony SmartWatch 2 for 3 years - I will have some other ideas for sure later when I will have more experiences with Amazfit...
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By recording touristic trips do you mean activating one of the sports activity? Like Walk? It is possible to enable such a solution, but how good that solution would be, depends on a more defined use case. I will put this on a lower priority list, will check the feasibility a bit later.
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GoPro control app, ios/android music control app, phone book and dial app with headphones, voice recorder - there is mic built in the watch... and continuum transfunctioner Zoltan!
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GoPro control app - have to know if a niche among the niche of Amazfit pace users exist, if there is enough demand - will develop.
Music control, dial - Yes, nice ideas.
Voice Recorder - This App apparently works, if it's missing something specific to our watch, let me know.
kwoodall said:
Being able to reply to Text/Gmail messages is #1 for me. Second - remote control of phone's music app.
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Sounds good.
omarfx said:
Thank you for starting this project, I really appreciate your efforts. This watch has one of the best looking design and a decent hardware. I think file manager and ablity to install apk from the watch and an app to push files from phone to the watch would be beneficial.
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That was one of the first thoughts I had, still checking if it's technically feasible to provide such a functionality without root.
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In earlier fw version was even worse. During sport activity, literally you couldn't see time on the, well, watch! Then they added it on the top, as well as battery status. Both too small but at least.
I agree with you, watch is missing multitasking. Going to home screen, using it regularly and track activity in the background. However, I doubt that op can do that without source of the fw.
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Apart from checking on time, do you feel that there is a real need for multitasking while the watch is tracking one of your sports activity? Or is it more like, nice to have thing? If the need of multitasking has some great application/use case, I would like to hear about it - as in, what else would you access while actively participating in a sport?
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Apart from checking on time, do you feel that there is a real need for multitasking while the watch is tracking one of your sports activity? Or is it more like, nice to have thing? If the need of multitasking has some great application/use case, I would like to hear about it - as in, what else would you access while actively participating in a sport?
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Well, as mentioned before to use other features of the watch, time, date, weather, notifications... Notification, for example, will show up during activity and then disappear. No way to check it again. Music player is also not available during some activities. No way to check steps as well.
Of course it's not deal breaker but other watches have that feature and would be nice to have normal watch skin with activity in the background. Especially during walking, sightseeing... Watch can track up to 35h, after all.
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In my opinion, it would be nice to have an app that tells you when your watch loses the connection.
In fact, that was the reason why i bought my first smartwatch, a Sony 2. I was afraid to lose my phone . And it's a pity the actual amazfit doesn't give you this option.
Thanks in advance!!!
I'd say that Huami have purposely restricted background apps in order to maximise battery life.
As far as app requests go: for me it's a podcast app, that's active while running.
My guess is that the easiest way to do this would be that the podcasts would download into the music folder and we could just use the default music player to play them.
Remote camera control, useful for selfies
There are many 5k/10k trainer apps on android/iOS. Is it possible to port one or create some simple to run in background while running activity?
Right now Im using 5k Run-Couch to 5K Walk/Jog interval training. Something similar would be great, no need for some fancy design.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vandersw.fivekrun
In connection with headphones there could be some beep sound on each interval, no need for vibration.
An editor of watchfaces like those that exist for Android wear would be great, since the edition of watchfaces for this watch is complicated, and there's not much editing freedom...
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In my opinion, it would be nice to have an app that tells you when your watch loses the connection.
In fact, that was the reason why i bought my first smartwatch, a Sony 2. I was afraid to lose my phone . And it's a pity the actual amazfit doesn't give you this option.
Thanks in advance!!!
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That sounds like a good idea, will keep a note of that.
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I'd say that Huami have purposely restricted background apps in order to maximise battery life.
As far as app requests go: for me it's a podcast app, that's active while running.
My guess is that the easiest way to do this would be that the podcasts would download into the music folder and we could just use the default music player to play them.
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I will experiment with multitasking, if it seems to work okay, will release an App for that.
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Remote camera control, useful for selfies
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There are many 5k/10k trainer apps on android/iOS. Is it possible to port one or create some simple to run in background while running activity?
Right now Im using 5k Run-Couch to 5K Walk/Jog interval training. Something similar would be great, no need for some fancy design.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vandersw.fivekrun
In connection with headphones there could be some beep sound on each interval, no need for vibration.
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Porting would essentially mean modifying another developer's work without a permission. So, whatever it is, have to be built from scratch.
Running an App simultaneously with the running activity on foreground may not work well, both the Apps would have to keep tracking your distance etc. So, am afraid that won't be a good idea for now.
But I plan to facilitate multitasking, so that may help in one or the other way.
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An editor of watchfaces like those that exist for Android wear would be great, since the edition of watchfaces for this watch is complicated, and there's not much editing freedom...
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Will look into it.
Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
Update: AFib monitor Google Play link
AndriusG said:
Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
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Hi, I have tried your app, it's great that you are doing this.
I have tested it on Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS, it works correctly, shows heart rate and cardiogram for arrhythmias.
When I started the app for the first time it did not ask me to enable sensor permissions nor did it alert me that it did not have the permission enabled when I started monitoring. I activated them manually and it worked as expected.
About the PPG sensor address for TWP3 I don't know which one it is, I guess it is the same as the Fossil Gen5, because it works.
bernarbernuli said:
Hi, I have tried your app, it's great that you are doing this.
I have tested it on Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS, it works correctly, shows heart rate and cardiogram for arrhythmias.
When I started the app for the first time it did not ask me to enable sensor permissions nor did it alert me that it did not have the permission enabled when I started monitoring. I activated them manually and it worked as expected.
About the PPG sensor address for TWP3 I don't know which one it is, I guess it is the same as the Fossil Gen5, because it works.
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Thank you so much! Didn't expect such a quick feedback!
I'll try correcting the permission part. And it's great to know, that app is compatible with TWP3.
Just in case, keep in mind, that this app runs in the background and should be stopped manually.
Hi, I would like to try this on my Fossil 6. Do you install the .apk on the watch or phone? Sorry, I've never installed outside of PlayStore.
a0323022 said:
Hi, I would like to try this on my Fossil 6. Do you install the .apk on the watch or phone? Sorry, I've never installed outside of PlayStore.
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You can utilize this method to install this and any apk directly to WearOS.
A slightly updated version of the app, which now includes a request for permission to use BODY_SENSORS.
Gastopako said:
Hi all,
I have developed an application for a Wear OS, intended for a robust continuous atrial fibrillation (arrhythmia) and heart rate monitoring, which uses an optical sensor (green light) in the bottom of the watch. I'm currently limited to Fossil Gen 5 watch since my Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 won't give software access to its optical sensor.
Having said that, would anybody here like to test the app on their watches? It still needs to be improved and optimized, therefore, feedback would be appreciated. Also, it would run on other watches, however, in that case I would need to know an address of an optical sensor (Fossil Gen5 PPG sensor is 65572) so I could update the app.
I'd like to publish it in Google Play sometime later, have never done it before, it looks quite tricky, however, I filled most of the things there already.
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Privileged Health SDK | Samsung Developers
Aiming to advance innovation and development of new health and wellness solutions
developer.samsung.com
Looks to me like Samsung has their sensor hidden behind this 'privileged' api, might be worth trying to request access?
Actually I was able to find a couple potential addresses for the Samsung sensor when I poked around a bit, were you unable to actually access the hardware even with the address?
mangobot said:
Actually I was able to find a couple potential addresses for the Samsung sensor when I poked around a bit, were you unable to actually access the hardware even with the address?
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Thanks for the tip. As I matter of fact I did try contacting them in the exact same way you showed, however, I the declined my request without explanation. Maybe it is because I didn't mention any affiliation with business or something like that. I'll try requesting once again.
I also tried reading all the accessible sensors in Watch 4, however, software access to the PPG sensors is restricted.
I guess the sensor you are referring to is this one:
Samsung PPGBatch Sensor /Type_String: com.samsung.sensor.ppg_batch /Type_number: 69668
Galaxy Watch 4 offers wide range of sensors and I have developed quite a lot of various algorithms, which could be implemented, e.g., continuous SpO2 monitoring (red and infrared optical sensors), confirmation of a suspected atrial fibrillation (detected by using green light optical sensor) using an ECG strip.
I tested app on TicWatch E3 and it does work on this watch. However, I noticed that the quality of the Photoplethysmogram signal is worse than what I get in Fossil Gen 5 watch. With Fossil Gen 5 watch, you don't even have to search for a good spot on the wrist, the quality is always good and it is not the case with TicWatch E3. The algorithm in the app won't throw false alarms because of that, the signal quality is constantly monitored, however, with that kind of quality it would be tricky to detect AF if it was present.
I apologize but I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
exswim said:
I apologize but I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
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You might want to consider utilizing Bugjaeger Mobile ADB as a really alternative and innovative solution to the problem of sideloading apps on Wear OS devices.
Thanks for the reply. Another question, as I said the Wear Installer 2 indicated that the app was installed. Would this app appear as an app in settings or in the launcher. If not, where is it on my watch?
Gastopako said:
I tested app on TicWatch E3 and it does work on this watch. However, I noticed that the quality of the Photoplethysmogram signal is worse than what I get in Fossil Gen 5 watch. With Fossil Gen 5 watch, you don't even have to search for a good spot on the wrist, the quality is always good and it is not the case with TicWatch E3. The algorithm in the app won't throw false alarms because of that, the signal quality is constantly monitored, however, with that kind of quality it would be tricky to detect AF if it was present.
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I would like some help. I have a ticwatch E3. I apparently installed the app using Wear Installer 2. That app indicated that the installation was was successful. However, the app does not appear in my launcher. Is there something else I need to do?
exswim said:
Thanks for the reply. Another question, as I said the Wear Installer 2 indicated that the app was installed. Would this app appear as an app in settings or in the launcher. If not, where is it on my watch?
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It would appear as an app in the launcher.
Hi, I did some updates to the app, mainly in the representation of the heart rate change over time. There are some as to say, drawbacks because for now heart rate values are saved in a local variable, therefore, if app was closed and restarted, the previous heart rate log would not be saved. I also have some thoughts in adding additional screen for the parameters of atrial fibrillation if one was detected, however, still not sure what information (e.g., beginning and the end of the AF episode, duration of the AF episode, etc. ) regarding this would be relevant for an ordinary user. Maybe some of you might have ideas what info would be of utmost relevance for you.
I would love to use this app on my Samsung Watch 5. I hope you succeed in getting access to the sensors on the Samsung Watches. I think your app would be very popular!
Hi, I know it's a tech site but to anyone suffering from atrial fibrillation-one of the most common but least talked about causes is head and neck posture/atlas position, slumped forward posture- very common with the amount of time we spend on our computers- see Dr John Berg youtube channel -
A good chiropractor or acupuncture practitioner can help to correct these abnormal and harmful postures and could possibly save you from surgery or pacemaker..
Don't ignore other causes which are more serious though-especially in the lat 2 years- lots of people are getting abnormal blood clotting since having a certain injection or getting long covid.
mura20 said:
I would love to use this app on my Samsung Watch 5. I hope you succeed in getting access to the sensors on the Samsung Watches. I think your app would be very popular!
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Thanks! I haven't motivated myself to fill the request for getting the sensor access yet. It is quite complicated. Another thing that I noticed is that the raw green PPG signal from Galaxy Watch 4 and 5 is sampled at 25 Hz. Mine algorithm uses higher sampling frequency. According to the info provided by Samsung, only RED and Infrared PPGs in Galaxy Watch 4 and 5 are sampled at 100 Hz.
I am planning on improving the app by integrating it with Health Connect or with something similar. Currently the app stores, e.g., heart rate data in temporary variables, which are cleared as soon as the app is restarted. Another option was to write data in the main storage; however, data management seems tricky to me, I wouldn't want to deal with databases on my own.
Are you able to get raw RED and IR PPG sensor data (or any of the PPG sensor data)?