[Q] MHL & OTG simultaneously on Xperia Z Ultra? - Sony Xperia Z Ultra

I bought a USB hub which sports an MHL and OTG (See attached) .
On my xperia z ultra the MHL works fine but when I plug the airmouse into the OTG the phone doesn't detect the mouse.
I tried to unplug the MHL (removed HDMI cable) and use only the OTG feature but the phone doesn't detect the mouse. The phone doesn't detect any USB storage device as well.
The MHL and OTG feature is a built-in option in Xperia Z Ultra so it should output as MHL and and detect airmouse at the same time, but it doesn't work.
Can anyone please help me how to get this done?
Awaiting for replies anxiously

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I would honestly go with chromecast, it's your best bet to use the mouse as well.

RealityFails said:
I would honestly go with chromecast, it's your best bet to use the mouse as well.
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The chromecast will not support the airmouse that I have. There is a small usb donlge for the mouse which needs to be connected to chromecast. I see there is no option to plug a USB device into chromecast, right?

soumik_dasgupta said:
The chromecast will not support the airmouse that I have. There is a small usb donlge for the mouse which needs to be connected to chromecast. I see there is no option to plug a USB device into chromecast, right?
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I think he's suggesting that you connect your mouse to the phone and then cast the phone screen to the Chromecast.
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timmaaa said:
I think he's suggesting that you connect your mouse to the phone and then cast the phone screen to the Chromecast.
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I already mentioned that the airmouse is not detected by the phone; if it was, the issue will be solved because the MHL already working fine and output to big screen tv is fine.
My questions are:
a. Whether it is possible to use MHL and OTG at the same time?
b. My phone xperia z ultra is not detecting any usb devices such as pen drives, regular pc mouse or the airmouse. How do I get that to work?

Further update: I was able to get the OTG working and the phone detected the airmouse, however I could only use either of the MHL or OTG but not together. Any ides how to get the MHL and OTG work together?

How'd you get the otg to work? I bought 2 of them. But my Xperia Z ultra isn't detecting it.

RealityFails said:
How'd you get the otg to work? I bought 2 of them. But my Xperia Z ultra isn't detecting it.
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Its easy. First of all OTG doesn't require any additional power to be connected to the HUB, you need to remove that. Second, plug in hub into the phone, then plug the USB device into the OTG USB slot of the HUB, then keep pressing the switch on button until it becomes "Blue". Please make sure you don't have any external power connected to the adapter at this point.

No I was talking about otg to the phone. I had no issues with Samsung but my phone doesn't detect the cord when I plug otg in it says USB connected, but when I hooked up the ps3 controller it had issues of not being recognized.

You can't use both MHL and USB OTG features at the same time because Sony Xperia devices (including the Z ultra) use 5 pins MHL connectors as opposed to Samsung devices (since the Galaxy S3) that use (not standard) 11 pins connectors for this very purpose (which is why most MHL cables require the use of an adapter on these)

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[INFO]USB OTG on Mini/Mini Pro/Active/LWW

*This is only a reference/information thread for those who want to use OTG feature on our 2011 xperia phones, for your convenience.
(For that Sony Ericsson didn't tell you how to use that feature.)
Information for xperia mini, mini pro, LWW and Active.(since they share similar chipsets)
TESTED ON GB 2.3 Stock rom with wt19i.
1. USB OTG support is native on stock roms.
2. Almost every USB keyboard and mouse can be used with OTG.
3. Some special keys on the keyboard may NOT work(such as volume up/down buttons).
4. Key bindings may NOT work. e.g. Ctrl + C won't work in terminal apps such as connectbot or terminal emulator. Consider twice if you want to use keyboard for terminal.
5. To use USB flash drives, you have to use OTG helper from shardul_seth from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588979
6. (with OTG helper) USB drives will be mounted @ /sdcard/usb_stick_1/ (or something similar)
7. USB hubs CAN be used.
8. Portable hard-drives can be used although it needs external power source.
9. Using these USB devices with your phone can DEPLETE YOUR BATTERY rather quickly.
10. Pen tablets won't work. (Tested device: Wacom Banboo)
11. USB card readers might NOT work. (Some do, some don't. I tested a card reader with multiple slots(MS Pro, microSD, SD) and my wt19i failed to recognize it.)
12. USB flash drives larger than 16GB might NOT work. (As reported from Taiwanese forums.)
13. Some USB joysticks will work, some won't. (No drivers for Android
I will keep testing USB devices though. Thread will be updated in the future.
Attachment is my own wt19i with an USB keyboard.
Preserved for future use.
Sent from my wt19i custom "Emma"
USB joystick work like a charm, I've tested a thurstmaster 8 button on my mini pro!
@paacoo Thank you. Information corrected now.
p.s. Tested that Playstation 3 controller wouldn't work
Other devices
Hello all
I have tried WD self powered 1Tb HDD the trick was to connect a hub with double USB cable, one to the phone and the other to a battery or usb charger, worked correctly, I think I can browse all the drive content.
Recently I bought a multi card reader branded as Manhattan that support SD, micro SD, MMC, etc.., plus 3 usbs and worked. I can read my SD/microsd and read/write files.
Also I tried wireless (RF) mouse/keyboard branded acktec and worked great.
If you are interested I can tell you the product number.
@edgar0204 Thanks for your reply. I think I'll start a list for unsupported devices then
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@aznrogerazn: I"m sure in that Android compatible only with HID devices. I"m unsure in that PS3 controller is HID-based, but take a look here:
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/23634/Wired-PS3-Six-Axis-Controller-Using-USB-HID-as-Inp
@x.x.x.Peria The reason why Playstation 3 controller fails to work is that the phone cannot provide sufficient power supply. With proper programming and enough power, it is supposed to work. It can be used on the phone with bluetooth, however.
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There are no hidden features on our phone.
USB OTG feature is known already on Live with Walkman, announced aswell on official white paper.
By default(and officially), OTG support exists only on LWW, but with certain workarounds, it is possible on other devices aswell.
Need UTG Cable
Hi guys, I'm from Indian where can i get utg cable over internet ?
aznrogerazn said:
TESTED ON GB 2.3 Stock rom with wt19i.
1. USB OTG support is native on stock roms.
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All right, you've said it's native on stock, but is there any way to get in on custom rom? Or we couldn't use this feature?
Hey i'm news and i'm not the best in english but
Can i make my own otg cable ! It's can work ?
It's for my lww.
Ofc. Well you can make even atom bomb if you have knowledge and mats.
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royal-kingzzz said:
Hey i'm news and i'm not the best in english but
Can i make my own otg cable ! It's can work ?
It's for my lww.
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madhouses said:
Ofc. Well you can make even atom bomb if you have knowledge and mats.
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Knowledge for homemade USB OTG cable http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092493
I don't found posts about atom bomb yet
I made a homemade USB OTG with the help of this tutorial, and works like a charm.
:highfive:
If I use an USB HUB with external power, it will work? My target is use an USB HUB with external power to supply energy for a mouse, a keyboard, a pen drive and my phone. Or just to reduce the battery consumption. I know HUB powered by USB works fine.
PS: with OTG cable, my homemade one: kingston pendrive 8GB works, lenovo mouse and keyboard works, leadership mouse and keyboard (with a nice number of special keys) works, Bright wireless mouse with usb adapter works, bluetooth usb dongle don't works (needs driver), and with a USB OTG cable you can recharge another phone haha. * I'm using ICS at St15i.
USB hubs with external power source is working as reported from Taiwanese forums. You can only use one flash drive on the hub at the moment though.
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aznrogerazn said:
USB hubs with external power source is working as reported from Taiwanese forums. You can only use one flash drive on the hub at the moment though.
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Interesting.
With powered hub, I connected a PS3 controller and reading the kernel log with dmesg, seems to be recognized and installed but don't works and starts to charge, without my phone at hub the controller don't charge. Other devices work normal, and the phone is not in charge mode :silly:.
If anyone have idea to tests, I think I can do for help.
Thanks for the thread aznrogerazn.
Can anyone confirm if this works on MiniCMSandwich Lite? I don't have an OTG cable but I'm gonna buy one if and only if, it's working. Gonna be a waste if it doesn't.
@GregyrioAxiaMagno PS3 controllers can be used on bluetooth mode. You can google the method if you like.
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aznrogerazn said:
@GregyrioAxiaMagno PS3 controllers can be used on bluetooth mode. You can google the method if you like.
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Thanks aznrogerazn, I have the Sixaxis app working good, is a nice app is it?
But, check this out, I have a nice news hahaha. I managed to work the PS3 controller by USB. So: I have a 7 ports powered hub, and it can be powered by usb also. I plugged my otg cable in Android and the cable at the HUB, then I plugged the power cable, after this, I connected the PS3 controller at HUB, the lights at the controller will blink if in charge mode or blink only once if the battery is full, and unintentionally, I hit the button with the PlayStation logo, and voilà: the controller works! I noticed what the touchscreen gets a strange behavior... I saw this same behavior when a friend used an non oficial usb cable to charge the xperia x8, an ordinary cable... like if the touchscreen got messy. But the controller and the rest works. So give a try, with a powered HUB and plug all, then hit the PS logo. I noticed also what the usb host mode can be disabled sometimes, is just restart the phone or plug a mouse or something to get work again.
I will make a video maybe or take some photos in another thread.
EDIT: The strange behavior of the touchscreen is caused by the power, I mean, when I connect the power cable. I think this happens because there is no filter of energy in the circuit. Maybe a high quality HUB solve the issue. The touch screen become normal again when the ordinary power cable got disconnected.
EDIT 2: About the crazy touch see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10206146&postcount=8. The power cable of the USB HUB is an ordinary 5V 1000mA, thats is the problem.
EDIT 3: I made a video but I won't open a new thread xP
http://youtu.be/l63AisPJBw8

[Q] MHL Cable

Hi,
I understand that the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet is one of the first to have MHL 3.0 (Along with the Z2 Phone) however is there any adapter out at the moment to put this onto to your TV yet?
Is this something that a universal adapter will sort? Is it something I need to wait for Sony to release?
Cheers.
James
Lynchie1987 said:
Hi,
I understand that the Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet is one of the first to have MHL 3.0 (Along with the Z2 Phone) however is there any adapter out at the moment to put this onto to your TV yet?
Is this something that a universal adapter will sort? Is it something I need to wait for Sony to release?
Cheers.
James
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For me, the Samsung MHL does Not Work physically. A third party Adapter From HAMA does Not Work on the Sony, but on the SGS4
I'm Waiting for the Sony MHL to become available now...
I bought this one and it works with my z2 tablet: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...o-mhl-adapter-rf-g1171-rf-g1171/10214468.aspx
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So, seeing I get my Z2 tomorrow, also ask if anybody has tried the MHL to HDMI adapters. Seems a limited choice here where I live, so asking for some additional input.
Seems I can get the official Sony IM750 MHL Adapter, however it doesn't mention the Tablet compatibility, only phones.
I bought a cheap mhl v1 cable that works fine. It just crops the bottom of the screen off on the TV http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281294982152
It has to have a micro usb to power it, but most tvs or dvd players have a spare usb port to power the adapter.
SANGER_A2 said:
I bought a cheap mhl v1 cable that works fine. It just crops the bottom of the screen off on the TV http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281294982152
It has to have a micro usb to power it, but most tvs or dvd players have a spare usb port to power the adapter.
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Thanks for the link. I suppose it would come down to whether the TV USB would transmit power via USB, but in the worst case, one could carry a USB charger (seeings I have several of those laying around )
All usb ports supply 5v at 0.3amps min as long as the TV etc is on. Even if it's a diagnostic only usb port it's still enough current.

adapters

dear experts,
Im going to buy xperia z tab but I have a few questions to you.
Can I buy some adapters which allow me to connect in the some time, usb HDD, wifi mouse (via usb I use this mouse on windows currently ) so need 2 usb slot, HDMI (so I can transfer display on TV), and need another plug for a charger. Is it any chance I an buy some adapters, plug etc. where I can connect all this device and tablet will still be manage to run all of this optcion at the some time?
please help
x7nofate said:
dear experts, Im going to buy xperia z tab but I have a few questions to you. Can I buy some adapters which allow me to connect in the some time, usb HDD, wifi mouse (via usb I use this mouse on windows currently ) so need 2 usb slot, HDMI (so I can transfer display on TV), and need another plug for a charger. Is it any chance I an buy some adapters, plug etc. where I can connect all this device and tablet will still be manage to run all of this optcion at the some time? please help
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You are going to need a USB 1.x/2.0 Female Type A to Male Type Micro-B adapter cable.
The XTZ's USB port does not supply enough amperes to power most portable USB HHDs, so when selecting an HDD, make sure it requires very low amperes.
The WiFi mouse's Windows-based adapter will not work with the XTZ unless the mouse's manufacturer can provide Android drivers. You need to check with the manufacturer to see if they have any, but I highly doubt they have Android drivers. You will have better luck using a Bluetooth or USB mouse.
You can use a non-powered or powered USB hub to gain more USB ports. A powered USB hub would be a better choice because it would eliminate the problem of powering a USB HDD. Most powered USB hubs are powered by AC adapters, but you can find some that are battery powered.
There are several discussions in this forum about USB MHL to HDMI adapters. Search the forum to find out which adapters work with the XTZ.
You cannot charge a device using a charger through a USB hub. You will need a powered USB hub specifically designed for charging devices.
Right but the question is does the Xperia z tab can be charging the some time when is connect to tv via hdmi?
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x7nofate said:
Right but the question is does the Xperia z tab can be charging the some time when is connect to tv via hdmi?
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Try using a Micro USB Host OTG Y-Cable with Micro USB Power for Sony Phones & Tablets from Valarm, which they say has been tested with the XTZ SGP312.

Z Ultra - Sony PS3 Controller Not Connecting

Hey, Hope all dng great!!!.
I got a new Sony PS3 DualShock Controller which I am trying to connect to Sony Xperia Z Ultra (Having 4.4.4 version).
What I have:
1. Mini USB OTG Cable
2. Z Ultar Default charger cable (I doubt this cable may be the issue, but not sure)
Charger Cable I inserted in to Z ultra and other end I have inserted in to USB A female port and the mini usb male is in to PS3 controller.
Settings --->Xperia Connectivity -->DualShock Controller-->ConnectionStatus and BatteryStatus in Disabled mode
Settings --->Xperia Connectivity -->DualShock Controller-->How to Connect Controller Screen -- Next button is disabled.
Please see the attached IMAGE for more info.
Please help me to understand what could be the issue?
Thanks in advance,
Cdhar
I've had issues with otg and the ps3 controller. I suggest you buy a case, and a universal gameklip total is about 30 bucks. It's probably the otg cable. If you're rooted download the sixaxis app, connect controller and update master address. If it doesn't work there's no connection with the cable
You have to connect OTG cable to Z Ultra (male microUSB, female USB) and normal data/charging cable to Dualshock3 (male miniUSB, male USB).
Because what you did is bad.
It has to be in this order. (see attachment)
Don't make it hard for him.http://www.primuscable.com/store/p/...NAr8FptRg2bDMhfzZwpKqGzm1_aNlDmHvgaAhqV8P8HAQ
Just get that cable it's what I used. You can connect to your zu and ps3 controller and setup wireless play, that's all you need.
But how can you connect miniUSB to Xperia ??? You need OTG cable for mobile phone and cable to connect Dualshock to OTG ...
looks like this (sorry I had only old N8 and Rumblepad2 ...)
Mr.Bombastic said:
But how can you connect miniUSB to Xperia ??? You need OTG cable for mobile phone and cable to connect Dualshock to OTG ...
looks like this (sorry I had only old N8 and Rumblepad2 ...)
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I attached photo of cable
Here you go to explain it's a cable that has ps3 Micro usb and on other end is Micro for Android. Once synced up your Xperia will detect it, follow instructions. Otg is outdated imo
Do not mistake micro for mini... even the cable in link you posted is mini-mini, not micro-mini
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Do not mistake micro for mini... even the cable in link you posted is mini-mini, not micro-mini
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I got the cable now but this time at least I can see the ps3 controller lights are blinking once I connect to z ultra. but there no luck still z ultra is showing disabled 'Connection Status' and Next buttons in Dulashock 3 wireless controller options in the phone.
Please help me to understand what other options I can try.
[photo attached]
Thanks,
Cdhar

Connecting z2 to HMDI

Hallo every one
I was at the market want to have cable to connect my z2 to my TV with HMDI
So there was to way to do this
1 from HMDI to micro USB
2 frome HMDI to normal USB and then cable to micro USB
And I like the choice nbr 2 because I can connect my laptop too
But Iam not sure if my phone will work
Did any one know about this before I buy it because it's costs 40€ and I must be sure.
many thanks.
Xperia Z2 has MHL so if you buy micro USB > HDMI it will work. (I don't know if it works on custom roms but on stock it should work properly).
USB in laptops/PCs cannot sync video due that video output is from graphics card and USB has nothing to do with graphics card.
Something else is if you have USB type C and if manufacturer guarantee that it can sync video.
Next case, that is price. 40€ for that? You will overpay! You can buy that for about 3€ on Aliexpress
Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
rubiicon59 said:
Ah, but his Z2 is HMDI so it will never work
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Haha xD
Bumping: When buying an MHL adapter, make sure it's not made specifically for samsung devices, because there's no cross-compatibility. Talk about "standards".
PD: I tried buying one from gearbest. The package never arrived. Such is life in Bolivia.
Bumping again: someone knows how to connect MHL and OTG simultaneously on Z2?
Thanks in advance
No. It's not possible. At least not with the Z2.
The USB port, and the chipset only supports either USB mode, or MHL (hdmi) mode. Not both at the same time.
It can however charge the device while in MHL mode.
Even though there are multi port adapters out, the same thing goes. Either or. Not both.
Some other manufacturers devices DO support both modes simultaneously, but only through the special port and a special adapter for that particular device. I.e. Samsung 11 pin port for some galaxy variants.
If you're interested in keyboard and mice, there are Bluetooth capable keyboards and mice out there. That'll work.
For storage I'd suggest using a larger SD card in the SD card slot.

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