hi, i am new to this forum and also to the rooting process..i have rooted my note 3 and with some help from here also got me a custom recovery installed.. now i would like to get a custom rom and was wondering which would be the best one to have and also if i could be pointed in the right direction on how to go about doing it..i really appreciate the help..thx!
Read the sticky threads. There is no such thing as the best ROM. You should read about the process and read some more if you don't know how to flash a ROM.
You could brick your device easy enough so take your time and research thru the note 3 forums.
Good luck
Cat1970 said:
hi, i am new to this forum and also to the rooting process..i have rooted my note 3 and with some help from here also got me a custom recovery installed.. now i would like to get a custom rom and was wondering which would be the best one to have and also if i could be pointed in the right direction on how to go about doing it..i really appreciate the help..thx!
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First, head over to my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/samsung-note-3-rom-flashin-basics-t2896440 and get the info to flash a ROM. The very first thing you should do is debloat your stock rom here is my thread for that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 . Take your stock rooted, and debloated ROM and make a backup of it so you always have a base to restore from if something goes wrong. Also make a copy of your efs file its on the root of your system you can find this with a file manager like Root Explorer. Put the copy of efs file in a safe place, if the one in your device gets corrupted you will need it. A few simple things up front will make flashing fun.
As far as which is best is up to you, remember anything ported from another type of phone will always have things that don't work. With AOSP roms like CM 12 you lose features on your note 3, but you gain speed and simplicity. ALWAYS remember what version of KITKAT your on like NC4 4.4.4 and choose a new ROM that is based on the same version KITKAT you have on your device. Enjoy!!!!
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First, head over to my thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/general/samsung-note-3-rom-flashin-basics-t2896440 and get the info to flash a ROM. The very first thing you should do is debloat your stock rom here is my thread for that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 . Take your stock rooted, and debloated ROM and make a backup of it so you always have a base to restore from if something goes wrong. Also make a copy of your efs file its on the root of your system you can find this with a file manager like Root Explorer. Put the copy of efs file in a safe place, if the one in your device gets corrupted you will need it. A few simple things up front will make flashing fun.
As far as which is best is up to you, remember anything ported from another type of phone will always have things that don't work. With AOSP roms like CM 12 you lose features on your note 3, but you gain speed and simplicity. ALWAYS remember what version of KITKAT your on like NC4 4.4.4 and choose a new ROM that is based on the same version KITKAT you have on your device. Enjoy!!!!
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tyvm!
Decisions decisions....
I'm in the same boat. I've just read through the different ROM's available for NH7.
Could someone point me to which ROM is the:
Cleanest
Closest to STOCK
Fully functional
Lightest (without all the crazy extras that are almost never used)
Most stable. No beta's, if's, maybe's, might work ROM's (certain functions, apps, features etc...)....
I'm setting up a sprint phone for my sister....so nothing fancy. Turn on. Turn off. No bugs. Stable. Something that just works without all the bloatware.
Thanks guys.
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I'm in the same boat. I've just read through the different ROM's available for NH7.
Could someone point me to which ROM is the:
Cleanest
Closest to STOCK
Fully functional
Lightest (without all the crazy extras that are almost never used)
Most stable. No beta's, if's, maybe's, might work ROM's (certain functions, apps, features etc...)....
I'm setting up a sprint phone for my sister....so nothing fancy. Turn on. Turn off. No bugs. Stable. Something that just works without all the bloatware.
Thanks guys.
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well nh7 isnt latest stock nk4. is if its for your sister keep it stock.
iunlock said:
I'm in the same boat. I've just read through the different ROM's available for NH7.
Could someone point me to which ROM is the:
Cleanest
Closest to STOCK
Fully functional
Lightest (without all the crazy extras that are almost never used)
Most stable. No beta's, if's, maybe's, might work ROM's (certain functions, apps, features etc...)....
I'm setting up a sprint phone for my sister....so nothing fancy. Turn on. Turn off. No bugs. Stable. Something that just works without all the bloatware.
Thanks guys.
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Well I'm going to assume her device is on NH7. There are two rom out there freeza's NH7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472664 ( go for the odex version ) or the Classic Rom NH7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/development/classic-rom-4-4-4-nh7-t3012725
Neither of these roms is debloated, but with a little work could be daily drivers. OR if you want something stripped down and stable you could with AOSP (KK) C-ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2739968 run it with a LeanKernel here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488233 and that's about as minimalistic as you can get.
Last option what I did for my daughter. Downgraded the device to NC5 the most stable version of KitKat removed KNOX, and debloated it myself there is my thread for that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 .
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Well I'm going to assume her device is on NH7. There are two rom out there freeza's NH7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472664 ( go for the odex version ) or the Classic Rom NH7 http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint/development/classic-rom-4-4-4-nh7-t3012725
Neither of these roms is debloated, but with a little work could be daily drivers. OR if you want something stripped down and stable you could with AOSP (KK) C-ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2739968 run it with a LeanKernel here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2488233 and that's about as minimalistic as you can get.
Last option what I did for my daughter. Downgraded the device to NC5 the most stable version of KitKat removed KNOX, and debloated it myself there is my thread for that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729 .
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Excellent. Thanks for talking the time to guide me in the right direction.
Yes, the phone is currently on NH7 at the moment. You had mentioned that neither of freeza's or the classic rom is debloated? I take it that I'd be able to uninstall and just delete the apps that I don't need yes?
Going the ASOP KK C-ROM sounds enticing coupled with using the LeanKernel....hhmmm...... Will the Note 3 lose any of its Note functionality by going with the ASOP ROM? Any known issues?
When you downgraded to NC5, did you just leave it stock and manually de-bloat it? If doing this is the most stable for KK, I may just go this route. I did read the thread about debloating...great stuff....this seems to be the cleanest while on the stock ROM....
Thanks again!
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Excellent. Thanks for talking the time to guide me in the right direction.
Yes, the phone is currently on NH7 at the moment. You had mentioned that neither of freeza's or the classic rom is debloated? I take it that I'd be able to uninstall and just delete the apps that I don't need yes?
Going the ASOP KK C-ROM sounds enticing coupled with using the LeanKernel....hhmmm...... Will the Note 3 lose any of its Note functionality by going with the ASOP ROM? Any known issues?
When you downgraded to NC5, did you just leave it stock and manually de-bloat it? If doing this is the most stable for KK, I may just go this route. I did read the thread about debloating...great stuff....this seems to be the cleanest while on the stock ROM....
Thanks again!
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Yes you can delete/uninstall/freeze app you are not using. Anything not running gives you greater battery life and a faster device. Please remember to make a backup of your stock your rooted NH7 FIRST !!! That way if you delete an app and something goes wrong you can can restore the backup and start again.
AOSP has come a long way, most of the note 3 features work, a few small features don't. But as with all AOSP roms they designed to be streamlined and fast so you do give up some features for that. I debloated NC5, there is stuff on these KitKat roms you will never use, stuff for other countries.
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I have a few questions to ask.
1. How do I keep CWM installed on the phone? I was able to get it to ODIN and have it, but every time it restarts, it's lost.
2. What is the best ROM for this device? I really would like to keep some of the Samsung/Touchwiz elements.
3. What all do I have to know to do anything on here? Let's say... On the Droid X, I had an .apk to one click root. I used ROM Manager to reboot to clockwork and from there I just selected the zip for the ROM I wanted installed. Is there anything special for this device I'll have to do on here? I already have it rooted and I already know I'll have to use ODIN for a lot of things, but I don't really know what it's purpose is I suppose.
4. Is there an easy way to get rid of Bingware/VZW Bloatware?
Thanks!
I have an asnwer to questions #2 and 4. By far the best rom is COMROM 2.0 , which u can find in fascinate development thread. The answer to question 4 is, yes there is an eassy way to get rid of it, all u have to do is flash comrom it gets rid of all the bloatware for you (like I said its the best rom out there)
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1. If you are running the stock 2.2 OTA updates from verizon the stock kernel is what is holding your CWM back. It will reinstall the stock recovery every time you reboot.
-The best way to elevate this problem is to flash a new kernel. There are many to choose from and not all will work with your fascinate.
-If you choose to flash Unlimate Kangbang (comm ROM) you can flash a kernel and ROM in one nice little package. See the sticky in the dev forum for more kernels and info.
2. This is really up in the air. Many will say Kangbang (comm ROM) simply because they use it and it is spear headed by a majority of the developers for our phone. There are 5 or 6 options for you to choose from and reading over their features would be best.
-Cyanogen MOD 7 is in the works and currently there are two versions. Koas's version is said to be slightly more buggy then JT's. Neither have fully working camera's as of yet. The word on the street though is that JT may have a fully (don't quote me) working release in the coming weeks. If camera is not a deal breaker check it out.
3. I would check here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
-This post is a little out of date but it is rich with information on the fascinate. ODIN will be your friend, it is what we use when things go.... not as planned. There are many ODIN packages (radios, ROMS, etc) that will clean the fascinate of previous installs and take care of some problems you may be having if you flash a lot. It should be noted now that most of the ROMS out are already ROOTED so one click and other methods are not needed completely.
4. Yes. If you simply want a stock touchwiz ROM then you can look them up in the sticky. Many of the Devs debloat and debing the stock releases for those that choose that route as an alternative!
Cheers!
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1. If you are running the stock 2.2 OTA updates from verizon the stock kernel is what is holding your CWM back. It will reinstall the stock recovery every time you reboot.
-The best way to elevate this problem is to flash a new kernel. There are many to choose from and not all will work with your fascinate.
-If you choose to flash Unlimate Kangbang (comm ROM) you can flash a kernel and ROM in one nice little package. See the sticky in the dev forum for more kernels and info.
2. This is really up in the air. Many will say Kangbang (comm ROM) simply because they use it and it is spear headed by a majority of the developers for our phone. There are 5 or 6 options for you to choose from and reading over their features would be best.
-Cyanogen MOD 7 is in the works and currently there are two versions. Koas's version is said to be slightly more buggy then JT's. Neither have fully working camera's as of yet. The word on the street though is that JT may have a fully (don't quote me) working release in the coming weeks. If camera is not a deal breaker check it out.
3. I would check here ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
-This post is a little out of date but it is rich with information on the fascinate. ODIN will be your friend, it is what we use when things go.... not as planned. There are many ODIN packages (radios, ROMS, etc) that will clean the fascinate of previous installs and take care of some problems you may be having if you flash a lot. It should be noted now that most of the ROMS out are already ROOTED so one click and other methods are not needed completely.
4. Yes. If you simply want a stock touchwiz ROM then you can look them up in the sticky. Many of the Devs debloat and debing the stock releases for those that choose that route as an alternative!
Cheers!
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1. How do I know which kernel will work with my phone? And if it's easier, I would prefer to just shoot a ROM with kernel at the phone instead of installing separately.
2. What 5 or 6 am I looking at? I know about the COMM ROM, but I'm unsure I actually want to head that route due to the fact that I don't want to go COMPLETELY stock. After using this phone for a little bit, I really like some parts of Touchwiz, and I'd prefer not to lose that.
3. Thanks for the link. I'll definitely read that over.
4. What sticky are you talking about? I'm looking to get rid of Bing ASAP as this is just killing me when I want to use voice commands or search for anything.... It heads to Bing. I wouldn't mind Bing if I had a WP7, but this is a Google Experience.... Well, technically, it's not, but you understand what I mean.
There are ODIN packages in the development section that have a rom, kernel, etc. You can get a package that is stock... but no bloat, no bing. That would be pretty easy to do. Just make sure you backup data on your phone prior to messing with any of this. Really, I would still recommend com rom, ef, or miui wiz.
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jptech7 said:
There are ODIN packages in the development section that have a rom, kernel, etc. You can get a package that is stock... but no bloat, no bing. That would be pretty easy to do. Just make sure you backup data on your phone prior to messing with any of this. Really, I would still recommend com rom, ef, or miui wiz.
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I don't know what I'm looking for. This forum is too jumbled with thousands of other ROMs and kernels and just everything.
the Evil Fascination rom thread answers a lot of your questions. It includes a kernel, it's voodoo'ed, and its debloated. if you want some of the samsung tw stuff, theres a portion on that thread where you can install it individually.
i'd start off finding a debloated/deodexed stock package and flashing that plus any custom kernels and mods and stuff you may want. Then check out the roms you might want, the two major ones right now being ComRom and CM7, but there are Evil Fascination, Dark Revenge, Superclean, and others which are stable and debloated as well.
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Can you guys just link me to a ROM that's debloated? All I want is Google back so I can give this phone to my mom so she can have a good phone for once.
Shamrock13 said:
Can you guys just link me to a ROM that's debloated? All I want is Google back so I can give this phone to my mom so she can have a good phone for once.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044406
You want the second link in the OP.
MrBigFeathers said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044406
You want the second link in the OP.
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Doesn't really help. I flashed it, and it still gives me the Bing search when I hit the search button.
Shamrock13 said:
Doesn't really help. I flashed it, and it still gives me the Bing search when I hit the search button.
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So I ended up installing EF, the MIUI, and the CommROM. I was just testing them for 10-15 minutes. So far, I like the CommROM the best, but I think MIUI is close.
I've been using CommROM all day, but I hate the colours. I wish it was more a standard Touchwhiz colour palette instead.
Also, I cannot seem to get the time to show up in the status bar. I unchecked the box in TSM parts and restarted my phone, but it's still not showing up. Is there something special I have to do?
change the text color setting in status bar settings in tsm parts, then reboot. As for the rest of the colors; there are plenty of themes for comrom 2.0
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Hey, gang! I'm running 4.1.2, happily rooted on my Maxx and everything working fine. I've flashed ROMs a couple times in the past when they have provided features or functionality that are noticeably better than the stock OS, so although I'm certainly not an expert I'm also not afraid to try a few things.
I've recently developed an itch to flash CM10 (using Safestrap, and having a kind of dual-boot scenario where I can boot into either CM10 or stock as needed), but from the videos and screenshots I've been able to find it looks almost identical to the stock ROM. I've done a bit of searching, but have yet to find any major differences from stock other than having the bloatware removed. I know a lot of people love CM10, but why? Can someone enlighten me what sets CM10 apart from the stock? If there are some compelling reasons, I'm in...I just haven't found them yet.
Thanks!
PS - I'm also considering Carbon or Liquid...any thoughts on those, too?
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Hey, gang! I'm running 4.1.2, happily rooted on my Maxx and everything working fine. I've flashed ROMs a couple times in the past when they have provided features or functionality that are noticeably better than the stock OS, so although I'm certainly not an expert I'm also not afraid to try a few things.
I've recently developed an itch to flash CM10 (using Safestrap, and having a kind of dual-boot scenario where I can boot into either CM10 or stock as needed), but from the videos and screenshots I've been able to find it looks almost identical to the stock ROM. I've done a bit of searching, but have yet to find any major differences from stock other than having the bloatware removed. I know a lot of people love CM10, but why? Can someone enlighten me what sets CM10 apart from the stock? If there are some compelling reasons, I'm in...I just haven't found them yet.
Thanks!
PS - I'm also considering Carbon or Liquid...any thoughts on those, too?
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Theme engine, customization options, etc. (In the settings menu). Also, it allows you to have a later version of android than the stock Rom. Hope this helps.
misterk267 said:
Theme engine, customization options, etc. (In the settings menu). Also, it allows you to have a later version of android than the stock Rom. Hope this helps.
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Ah, good to know. I'll do some reading on the theme engine to see what's involved. Thanks!
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Ah, good to know. I'll do some reading on the theme engine to see what's involved. Thanks!
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No problem.
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CM10.2 builds are starting to show up now (Android 4.3). We'll never see an official 4.3 upgrade from Motorola, so that'll be the biggest reason to flash a custom ROM, in my opinion.
I don't do much customizing/theming of my phone, but I still prefer CM over the stock ROM. I could probably achieve similar results by just removing/freezing all the bloatware in the stock ROM. Still, CM and other ROMs have features that the stock ROM doesn't.
If you're going to mess around with your phone, rooting definitely gives you the most benefit. Custom ROMs give an incremental benefit. Assuming you're careful and don't brick your phone, there's no downside to trying some of the custom ROMs out. You can even leave your stock ROM intact and switch between it and your custom ROM until you find one you like. I keep coming back to CM10, but I've also tried PacMan and LiquidSmooth. I've heard good things about Carbon and MUIU.
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CM10.2 builds are starting to show up now (Android 4.3). We'll never see an official 4.3 upgrade from Motorola, so that'll be the biggest reason to flash a custom ROM, in my opinion.
I don't do much customizing/theming of my phone, but I still prefer CM over the stock ROM. I could probably achieve similar results by just removing/freezing all the bloatware in the stock ROM. Still, CM and other ROMs have features that the stock ROM doesn't.
If you're going to mess around with your phone, rooting definitely gives you the most benefit. Custom ROMs give an incremental benefit. Assuming you're careful and don't brick your phone, there's no downside to trying some of the custom ROMs out. You can even leave your stock ROM intact and switch between it and your custom ROM until you find one you like. I keep coming back to CM10, but I've also tried PacMan and LiquidSmooth. I've heard good things about Carbon and MUIU.
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That's exactly the kind of thing I wanted to find out. Thanks for your help!
Also the numerous battery and performance tweaks and added security features.
To sum it up, just try it for yourself and you'll know.
neo.ank said:
Also the numerous battery and performance tweaks and added security features.
To sum it up, just try it for yourself and you'll know.
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I think I will, thanks!
Hi,
I have always used CleanRoms on my S4 up until they stopped making them. I've been using the last version they released (1.6.5) with no issues.
I prefer a stock debloated rom that just works. I don't care much about fancy options. My current baseline version is I545VRUEMJ7. I did upgrade my modem a few weeks ago. I'm also using TWRP for recovery.
I'm looking for a rom that is like clean. Basically a debloated stock rom that just works. Something like what CleanRom was. I see all these roms have do's and dont's and I don't want to do one of the dont's.
My only needs are:
Debloated, with root so I can use it as a hotspot.
What do you suggest?
Thanks for any input.
Thanks
Kc0r8y said:
Hi,
I have always used CleanRoms on my S4 up until they stopped making them. I've been using the last version they released (1.6.5) with no issues.
I prefer a stock debloated rom that just works. I don't care much about fancy options. My current baseline version is I545VRUEMJ7. I did upgrade my modem a few weeks ago. I'm also using TWRP for recovery.
I'm looking for a rom that is like clean. Basically a debloated stock rom that just works. Something like what CleanRom was. I see all these roms have do's and dont's and I don't want to do one of the dont's.
My only needs are:
Debloated, with root so I can use it as a hotspot.
What do you suggest?
Thanks for any input.
Thanks
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so you were MDK and loki'd then?
as for ROMS, goes back to preferences of what you want. Mnay good ones out their that I have read about. Me, as I have a ME7 phone, been limited to TW stock based Roms I load thru safestrap. I have tried all that were available to me and have settled on Hyperdrive. Currently running 10.2 with hopes of moving to HD11 once safestrap is fully developed for that move.
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so you were MDK and loki'd then?
as for ROMS, goes back to preferences of what you want. Mnay good ones out their that I have read about. Me, as I have a ME7 phone, been limited to TW stock based Roms I load thru safestrap. I have tried all that were available to me and have settled on Hyperdrive. Currently running 10.2 with hopes of moving to HD11 once safestrap is fully developed for that move.
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I had tried 10.2 but had problems with the rom.
I believe I am MDK and loki'd.
Confirmed...i just successfully flashed megafire v10 4.2.2 base rom after odin flashing the kk bootloader and flashing Philz cwm....v10 is running as fast and smooth as ever on the 4.4 bootloader...so if you want to try kk and still want 4.2 roms your good to go
Mega
If anyone flashes one of sileshs aosp builds on the 4.4 bootloader please post it here and I'll update the op heading
Mega
The 4.4 ROM you were on was a Knox infested ROM or was it the Knox free ROM I put on the forum?
And did you flash the whole 4.4 ROM or only the boatloader (boot.img)?
Cuz on this ROM Knox is actually not in the boot.img, it's somewhere else.
Which means that one can flash the 4.4.2 boot.img alone and still downgrade to 4.2.2 or whatever, but if one flashes the whole 4.4.2 ROM one will have the Knox...
Or am I missing something?
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The 4.4 ROM you were on was a Knox infested ROM or was it the Knox free ROM I put on the forum?
And did you flash the whole 4.4 ROM or only the boatloader (boot.img)?
Cuz on this ROM Knox is actually not in the boot.img, it's somewhere else.
Which means that one can flash the 4.4.2 boot.img alone and still downgrade to 4.2.2 or whatever, but if one flashes the whole 4.4.2 ROM one will have the Knox...
Or am I missing something?
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I flashed the entire stock odin based rom with bootloader intact....so yes you can fully flash 4.2.2 roms after doing full odin to stock kk...i did this to test knowing people on my roms would eventually try this lol....no I saw you had the rom out but this is all based on full stock odin and Knox 4.4 bbootloader..yes you can flash 4.2.2 roms strain over the new Knox 4.4. boot buddy ...you just can't never odin flash a 4.2.2 with the old bootloader. ..i hole that clears things up a little bit
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The 4.2.2 you have is a Knoxed version?
My 4.2.2 is a Knox free version, and if I understood well I wouldn't be able to restore it if I flash the Knox KK.
I ask you this cuz I wouldn't mind to try the full KK, to see if it has the reboot bug or not.
But I would do it only if I can restore my good old fast and efficient home made 4.2.2
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The 4.2.2 you have is a Knoxed version?
My 4.2.2 is a Knox free version, and if I understood well I wouldn't be able to restore it if I flash the Knox KK.
I ask you this cuz I wouldn't mind to try the full KK, to see if it has the reboot bug or not.
But I would do it only if I can restore my good old fast and efficient home made 4.2.2
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No the 4.2.2 bmj2 build is my megafire v10 from the threads that I flashed on the new 4.4 bootloader...if you have one that's pre cna2 or your i9200 base equivalent it's shouldn't be an issue...idk about any beyond bmj2 as i never built on them since they were the same exact rom as bmj2 just with the knox bootloader lol for me going from my megafire rom to kk was a massive step backwards in speed smoothness and battery life...going from a raw quadrant average of 8350 on my 4.2 rom to 7860 is a massive drop lol and just another reason I'm done with that build for a few days
Mega
Also I have tracked down a few reasons for the updater script issue...that almost appear to be intentional on the part of samsung but I'll pm you about that which I've never seen happen in 5 years and over 120 roms I've built...but since you wouldn't know I'm guessing I build for the mega, but also for my note 3, note 8, note 12.2 pro, tab 8.4 pro, galaxy s4 att and the Mega all currently...and this mega kk base has been the first and only to have these issues with android kitchen at least ime building on them, so something changed
Edit and no you are correct it's now in the new separate boot.exe or param exe if I'm not mistaken. ..but no dude i went for the full shebang the full odin 4.4 then flashed my own 4.2 knox free mj2 rom just fine...so the new bootloader obviously has a supercede script that overwrites the old bootloader is my guess...probably a if then script but mines running great 4.2 knox free rom on 4.4 knox boot buddy you should have the same deal on 9200
Nice if your KK version doesn't have Knox, but it's a I9205 right?
Mine is a I9200 and to be honest I'm a bit scared to flash the full ROM cuz it could be that it has Knox, and since I'm still not sure that I can tweak KK to my liking I don't want to be stucked with it without any possibility to get back to 4.2.2.
Anyway, it's good for you if the I9205 is Knox free, and it will save me time cuz someone had requested me to make a Knox free version, which would have taken days to download/upload due to my pitiful internet connection (I already tried to download it 3 times and every time it failed in the middle).
Tell me, are there in your KK package other files apart from boot.img, recovery.img, system.img, cache.img and hidden.img?
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Nice if your KK version doesn't have Knox, but it's a I9205 right?
Mine is a I9200 and to be honest I'm a bit scared to flash the full ROM cuz it could be that it has Knox, and since I'm still not sure that I can tweak KK to my liking I don't want to be stucked with it without any possibility to get back to 4.2.2.
Anyway, it's good for you if the I9205 is Knox free, and it will save me time cuz someone had requested me to make a Knox free version, which would have taken days to download/upload due to my pitiful internet connection (I already tried to download it 3 times and every time it failed in the middle).
Tell me, are there in your KK package other files apart from boot.img, recovery.img, system.img, cache.img and hidden.img?
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I think you may have misread or misunderstood something buddy ,..the i9205 kk build has knox both in the bootloader and the warranty fuse and kernel fuse but also apks in the system, priv apps, and framework folders..the knox bootloader for 4.4 supercedes the older bootloader, so even when you restore the system of 4.2.2 you still have the 4.4 bootloader on there. My post was to let you guys know that you could flash 4.2 roms on the 4,4 bootloader...don't we all wish they didn't have knox lol...but no dude the i9205 is just the 4g lte variant of the 9200....at least On the 9205 you can odin up to 4.4 and still flash 4.2 roms on the new bootloader...when you say knox free are you talking about removing the normal knox apks form system apps, priv apps, and framework like usual?? Or you talking about removing the bootloader from the build?
Yea dude i wouldnt have even tried to flash back 4.2 but i have 2 Mega's 9205 one is strictly for dev work...and my 4.2 roms already have most of the ram and dalvik changes built in as well as a ton of tweaks performance and battery optimizations...i Don't know if you've run any of my builds but they're extremely fast and smooth, so the mega stock 4.4 was a huge step hackward for me or anyone thats run my builds
And it depends what files you mean buddy...my initial files from the decompile were the usual aboot.mbn, cache.img, nonhlos, rom, sbl 1 2 3...ect then you run boot.img and system.img thru the kitchen for unpacking the regular folders...but yes I noticed the extra file types in the initial decompile...I'm about to just delete everything an say screw it for a few days
Mega
megalomanic14 said:
Confirmed...i just successfully flashed megafire v10 4.2.2 base rom after odin flashing the kk bootloader and flashing Philz cwm....v10 is running as fast and smooth as ever on the 4.4 bootloader...so if you want to try kk and still want 4.2 roms your good to go
Mega
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Is that means so one could flash MegaFirev10 onto 4.2.2 with new bootloader (i.e. CNA2)? It could be much easier than making complex downgrade to MJ2 and then flashing MF.
trurl3 said:
Is that means so one could flash MegaFirev10 onto 4.2.2 with new bootloader (i.e. CNA2)? It could be much easier than making complex downgrade to MJ2 and then flashing MF.
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Theoretically it shouldn't be an issue...i did this exact thing on ml1 and then again on 4.4 and both times I flashed my megafire roms just fine...so it would appear as though flashing lower roms is fine and restoring roms is fine on those bootloaders but Odin flashing back down to an older build or boot is not possible....if you do this and is ssuccessful def let us know thanks buddy
Mega
megalomanic14 said:
Theoretically it shouldn't be an issue...i did this exact thing on ml1 and then again on 4.4 and both times I flashed my megafire roms just fine...so it would appear as though flashing lower roms is fine and restoring roms is fine on those bootloaders but Odin flashing back down to an older build or boot is not possible....if you do this and is ssuccessful def let us know thanks buddy
Mega
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so.. Mega...
let me see if I get this thread right.. Sorry, but Im simple and only know how to Odin..
You're saying that
1) I go and download the Portugal 4.4 KK I9205XXUDNE4 I9205TPHDNE4
from Sam Mobile and Odin that to my i9205.....
then 2) download your your megafire v10 4.2.2 base rom
and Odin that to my phone...
Then Im good to go???
No rooting or S/U involved??
And it'll be Faster, bettery battery life and all your other great tweaks in there too???
just that simple??
any manual wiping or dalvic wiping involved in the process??
then I'll have to re-install all my stuff,??
Thanks for your answer!!
Great work!
all comments and replies are welcomed and encouraged!
jimmbomb said:
so.. Mega...
let me see if I get this thread right.. Sorry, but Im simple and only know how to Odin..
You're saying that
1) I go and download the Portugal 4.4 KK I9205XXUDNE4 I9205TPHDNE4
from Sam Mobile and Odin that to my i9205.....
then 2) download your your megafire v10 4.2.2 base rom
and Odin that to my phone...
Then Im good to go???
No rooting or S/U involved??
And it'll be Faster, bettery battery life and all your other great tweaks in there too???
just that simple??
any manual wiping or dalvic wiping involved in the process??
then I'll have to re-install all my stuff,??
Thanks for your answer!!
Great work!
all comments and replies are welcomed and encouraged!
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***this post was only for those who had taken or flashed the 4.4 update to try and didn't wanna be stuck on it...you can flash my 4.2 roms directly without odin flashing 4.4 if your still on 4.2***
Close..but much simpler lol...you odin up to the new kk as you have there...odin 4.4 stock...then odin flash Philz recovery...then flash my megafire v10 4.2 build in Philz cwm recovery....you don't odin flash my rom. But you can see all the perks and upgrades over the stock rom in my rom thread, with detailed instructions on how to flash it....but you only odin flash the new 4.4 update...and Odin flash custom recovery then you flash my rom as usual in recovery from the mega itself...but if your already on 4.2 you can just flash it strait from recovery you don't have to update to the 4.4 build first...my kit kat rom is not out yet so this post and info was more for those who had flashed kit kat stock rom and didn't wanna be stuck on it since it's much slower and worse battery life that a custom build.
Mega
Customize rom for galaxy mega 5.8
Can anyone tell me whether there is, for custom ROMS GT-I9152?
Where can I find them?
Thanks
Playing with an L600 ( Sprint ).....
Glad to hear it's the same as many if not all other Galaxy devices and was just dependent on not "downgrading" the Bootloader.
I just finished installing Philz and rooted through recovery.
Ok.. thanks, Mega....
Can you please give a link for the philz recovery that works with our i9205?
Thanks for that..
Wont I need togoto stock 4.4 first to get the benifits of the 4.4 kernel, then drop in your megafire v10??
Thanks again for clarify ing...
"when you say knox free are you talking about removing the normal knox apks form system apps, priv apps, and framework like usual?? Or you talking about removing the bootloader from the build? "
I meant removing everything that is Knox related, included the stuff in the boatloader (that isn't in the boot.img by the way).
"i Don't know if you've run any of my builds but they're extremely fast and smooth, so the mega stock 4.4 was a huge step hackward for me or anyone thats run my builds "
I didn't, but it's on my to-do list
"I'm about to just delete everything an say screw it for a few days"
I did the same, buy now that few days have passed I may give it another shot, you know how we people are
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Ok.. thanks, Mega....
Can you please give a link for the philz recovery that works with our i9205?
Thanks for that..
Wont I need togoto stock 4.4 first to get the benifits of the 4.4 kernel, then drop in your megafire v10??
Thanks again for clarify ing...
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http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/melius3gxx
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http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/melius3gxx
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So.. do I just grab the latest version and .tar..and Odin it on my mega??
Then, download megafire v10 ti my phone....
Then flash it using philz... sound right?
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So.. do I just grab the latest version and .tar..and Odin it on my mega??
Then, download megafire v10 ti my phone....
Then flash it using philz... sound right?
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That's right! But what you mean: " I just grab the latest version and .tar". You do not need to flash anything before MegaFire. Just start from second line...
When you flasdh MegaFire V10 you will have better version of stock 4.2.2. Bootloader version is not relevant in such case. New bootloader does not better your MF.
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That's right! But what you mean: " I just grab the latest version and .tar". You do not need to flash anything before MegaFire. Just start from second line...
When you flasdh MegaFire V10 you will have better version of stock 4.2.2. Bootloader version is not relevant in such case. New bootloader does not better your MF.
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Thanks pak!!
Success! !
I got the philz touch on with odin.
Then got the megafire v10 on with philz..
Scary at first.. but all is good now!
I just have to find out what all these new apps are about, most seems to deal with tech android stuff which is french to me.
Thanks again for all the help
I am a little confused as I read thru forums stating instructions for installing cwm/twrp. As I have pretty much gone thru every thread and basically realize i am pretty much stuck with safestrap twiz roms. Not a happy camper. Is there a work around or a thread I have missed?
I have had this schi545 for a week now. Is there light at the end of this tunnel? as I am not a big touchwiz fan due to themeing limitations..
anyone above the first firmware MDK, can only use safestrap and roms running on the TW kernel. I recommend you look into eclipse if you dont like TW. Its aosp themed and feels like it, but runs off the TW kernel.
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anyone above the first firmware MDK, can only use safestrap and roms running on the TW kernel. I recommend you look into eclipse if you dont like TW. Its aosp themed and feels like it, but runs off the TW kernel.
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I am running eclipse right now..Its cool an all. I'm just used to aokp/liquidsmooth/gummy Roms coming from the ancient Droid 4....Thanks for the quick response..
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anyone above the first firmware MDK, can only use safestrap and roms running on the TW kernel. I recommend you look into eclipse if you dont like TW. Its aosp themed and feels like it, but runs off the TW kernel.
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That is correct. The original MDK bootloader is the only one that could be exploited (through a process called loki) which allowed flashing a custom recovery. VZW locked things down after that and there is no exploit available.